Ok, so I did the root from 2.2 down to 2.1 with unrevoked, and added forever, but im still a little confused as to wether I can accept the 2.2 ota, and stay rooted, im sure I have read about it before, but I would like some real info.
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You can take the OTA and maintain root with Unrevoked forever. UF turns the security permissions off, so it does not matter what you flash you always have root access.
Although in the future I would recommend not taking anymore OTAs since they often patch these holes with each new release. It is conceivable that they could release an update to turn the security permissions back on and plug current exploits to gain root. It is always best to wait for the rooted version of an update to be released. With Froyo the rooted versions were out before the official OTA came out.
To answer your question simply, yes you can take the current OTA after Unrevoked Forever and maintain root. Furthermore, there is little risk anymore since a method to root Froyo has finally been discovered.
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Ok, well i downloaded the ota froyo, started the install, did the unpacking pic, then after that it seems to be stuck at android with a white triangle and exclamation point that is yellow, so know what, pull battery and forget that or uh what.
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Ok, well i downloaded the ota froyo, started the install, did the unpacking pic, then after that it seems to be stuck at android with a white triangle and exclamation point that is yellow, so know what, pull battery and forget that or uh what.
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probably have to do a battery pull at that point. If you are using a custom recovery, the OTA won't work. I just used the RUU to do it. Otherwise, you need to find the stock recovery image (not sure where its posted) to use the OTA. The RUU is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746705
To gain root after updating, you need to install a custom recovery. If you go to the Unrevoked Forever web page, they have some recoveries in PC36IMG.zip format. The Amon RA one didn't work for me, but ClockworkMod does flash fine. One you have the custom recovery, you need to download a rooted rom. Netarchy has a completely stock one posted around here somewhere. That's the one I used. You can also use any custom ROMs once you have the recovery. You're supposed to be able to use the fastboot method to install a custom recovery, but I didn't have success doing that (though I didn't really work with it for very long). Hope that helps.
yeah i pulled the battery, and everything went back fine, so i guess at this point just get rid of that idea, and stick to custom rom then right.
tomh1979 said:
yeah i pulled the battery, and everything went back fine, so i guess at this point just get rid of that idea, and stick to custom rom then right.
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You can, or you can download the stock rooted 2.2. Or if you want to be thorough, you can run the 2.2 RUU, then install a custom recovery image, then flash the rooted 2.2 or custom 2.2 ROM. Probably recommend the 2.2 RUU as it will update your radios for you without you having to find and flash them individually. But that's just me.
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i am running a rooted version of 1.47.651.1 that i got from xda wiki for my Evo. Every time i try installing OTA 2.2 it shows a white triangle with an exclamation mark in the middle. I have tried all 3 versions of the RUU and none of them work. I can only flash rooted roms. I tried flashing the Froyo ROM that was leaked and it didnt work. I dont know what else to do at this point. I have been researching and researching this whole week. I just want my Evo back to stock i dont care which version of if i loose root. I was reading around one of the forums that i should flash a (stock, no) recovery via flash_image or fastboot. But i dont know how to do that. Can some one please help me with a turorial. Or will this even solve my problem? Can some one just help me i am willing to donate.
Install ROM Manager from the market.
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ok i just did. What do i do with it?
Replace the current recovery with RA recovery. Option down toward the buttom.
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i get the same error with all of them :/
When you say u have used all 3 RUU's, were you using this technique?
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/19278-how-unroot-return-stock.html
Either way I would do a factory reset and then try this method with the 1.47 one....worked perfect for me.
If you really don't care, just update to the newest 2.2 OTA, that will get you to stock with a new HBOOT and you will lose root. There are ways to "unroot" to a 2.1 ROM using RUUs, but they can get complicated. If you have no reason to root in the future, update to 2.2.
Correct me if I'm wrong, everybody.
i have tried updating to 2.2 but it wont update just gets stuck at the recovery with a yellow exclamation point/caution sign
Ok go to the wiki, use the "simplest root method without a gui" that will get you a recovery and setup that WILL allow you to flash the stock rooted 2.2, so you wull be at stock with full 2.2 froyo. Then forget about all the fancy stuff and only flash through amon ra recovery and presto no more problems. leave all the ruu's out of it, once you have root with nand unlocked you can flash pretty much whatever you want. If you flash an unrooted rom of course you will lose root. good luck
As far as i know you can't get the OTA 2.2 over a rooted 2.1...which brings us full circle back to the original question. What I would do if it were me:
#1: Run Simple root 1.47 to get a fresh root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720565
#2: The re-run this unroot method:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/19278-how-unroot-return-stock.html
Use the 1.47 RUU...if this don't work then uh????
The last two times I have tried to install the latest update (2.2 I believe) to my EVO, it has downloaded just fine but then seems to crash when it tries to do the actual install.
What I get is a screen showing the little green android next to an oblique triangle with an exclamation point in it. Everything stops at that point.
I have previously rooted the phone (no nand though) so I could install the android wireless tether, etc. Other than that though, I have not done too much with the phone. It's been running fine, so I have no idea what may be causing the new OTA update to crash.
(I've heard there have been some problems with the update and I really do want to be able to re-root the phone after the fact, if that could be a problem..so as far as that goes I'm in no hurry.)
Still, does anyone have any idea what might cause the latest update to crash? Should I perhaps manually copy it to my SD card and try running it from there?
Thanks,
JTT
You probably have a custom recovery so you can't OTA
OP,
You trying to maintain root? Then don't flash the OTA. If you are tryign to get back to stock, then run the 2.2 RUU file. That will wipe your phone and you will get stock - and NO root.
the question is how did you root the phone?....
in the end to keep root its, apply the 1.47 ota update, install unrevoked3, unrevoked forever, install stock recovery, update to 2.2 froyo, install custom recovery, install superuser app, then BAM you are rooted on 2.2
all addressed in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752166
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the question is how did you root the phone?....
in the end to keep root its, apply the 1.47 ota update, install unrevoked3, unrevoked forever, install stock recovery, update to 2.2 froyo, install custom recovery, install superuser app, then BAM you are rooted on 2.2
all addressed in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752166
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Don't take the 2.2 OTA if you want to maintain root.
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never do OTA lol. i learned the hard way.. im stuck on 2.2 without root. you will lose your root if you update ota. just say no man.. just say no
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so is there anyway to root 2.2 ota update i wanna root my phone!!!
I want the new update on my EVO.. it is rooted with Unrevoked or revoked..
When I run the OTA update it goes to the screen with the android and a Triangle with an ! in it..
What do I need to do to get the new update?
Here are 3 scenarios that will help you out:
1. You can unroot by running an RUU, take the update, and lose root user access. There is currently no method to attain root user access on the new OTA update.
2. *IF you performed a root method in which you flashed UNREVOKED FOREVER - You can unroot, accept the OTA update, flash AmonRa PC36IMG.zip and still retain root user access
3. You can manually update the radios, wimax, etc; and then flash the STOCK root version of the OTA update from the dev section.
Good luck, and ask any questions you need.
You are already rooted so the easiest way to get the new update is to flash a rom based on the new update. I personally use fresh 4.1.1, but there are tons of options to chose from.
You have gotten great suggestions and help above and my suggestion would be before going any further do alot more research. There is a lot of helpful information in here but none of it will help you at all if you dont read it.
I believe your best route is to go with the thoughts of the second posters scenarios and good luck. Have fun with your Evo but read OP's and stickies because in all honesty you could of been updated your new radios and rom within 20 minutes if you were already rooted.
Stock Rom - all the info can be found in his OP
i was android 2.2 then installed kings rom and it out me to 2.3.3
Can someone elaborate a bit on this point:
2. *IF you performed a root method in which you flashed UNREVOKED FOREVER - You can unroot, accept the OTA update, flash AmonRa PC36IMG.zip and still retain root user access
Not sure what I used but I suspect unrevoked forever but I"m not sure. When i tried grabbing the OTA, i wound up in a recovery screen I think. Can I disable root from in there, grab the OTA, and then download this AmonRa or should I just apply an image already floating around? Someone suggested Fresh 4.1.1
@joeynuggetz
Im not sure how to step back out from the recovery after trying ota, but I WILL say, to all who care about keeping root, just use one of the roms in the dev section that is stock with root. There are a few.
But yes, as was said earlier, if you used unrevoked forever (and only you know), from what I've read you can take ota, then reapply amonRA using the pc36img. (Im only reiterating what has already been suggested)
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kenjiwing said:
I want the new update on my EVO.. it is rooted with Unrevoked or revoked..
When I run the OTA update it goes to the screen with the android and a Triangle with an ! in it..
What do I need to do to get the new update?
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Do research. Figure it out on your own. Apply yourself. It will make you a better person.
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Trying to get what I thought was a simple question answered, but no luck so far, in some other threads, and other forums.
I am s-off via unrevoked forever (for a long time now). I have only ever taken Sprint OTA updates via unrevoked's recommended method of first reverting to a stock recovery, then taking the OTA, then reverting to a CWM recovery, and re-applying su.
Never had any issue with staying rooted this way.
Along comes GB. So, I flash back to stock recovery, take the 1st GB update, no problem. I then re-flash CWM recovery, and reapply su, no problem. I'm rooted again, still s-off, all my root apps still work fine, and I'm running Sprint GB.
Along comes the 2nd GB update (maintenance release). I try to flash the stock recovery, it appears to flash ok. But, if I try to boot into it, I just get the triangle-exclamation (which I think means no recovery is present). And, I cannot take the OTA. It errors out.
I can re-flash CWM recovery with no problem, and boot back into it, either though ROM Manager, or a volumeDown-Power cycle. s-off is still there, root apps still work, so I'm rooted.
I am, however, at hboot 2.16, I guess since I took that first OTA.
So, I'm at hboot 2.16, with s-off, and rooted, with CWM recovery.
So, why can't I flash that stock recovery in order to be able to take that 2nd GB OTA?
Thanks.
dude...f***ing AWESOME ROM!! i had no idea that you could do that with the evo!!
watch the video in my sig....will answer a few question! k thx!!
Why don't you flash the update from the forum like most people do, or possibly user one of the infinitely better roms available at this time that integrate the update, like synergy, mik's, misfits, ect.ect.ect.
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Trying to get what I thought was a simple question answered, but no luck so far, in some other threads, and other forums.
I am s-off via unrevoked forever (for a long time now). I have only ever taken Sprint OTA updates via unrevoked's recommended method of first reverting to a stock recovery, then taking the OTA, then reverting to a CWM recovery, and re-applying su.
Never had any issue with staying rooted this way.
Along comes GB. So, I flash back to stock recovery, take the 1st GB update, no problem. I then re-flash CWM recovery, and reapply su, no problem. I'm rooted again, still s-off, all my root apps still work fine, and I'm running Sprint GB.
Along comes the 2nd GB update (maintenance release). I try to flash the stock recovery, it appears to flash ok. But, if I try to boot into it, I just get the triangle-exclamation (which I think means no recovery is present). And, I cannot take the OTA. It errors out.
I can re-flash CWM recovery with no problem, and boot back into it, either though ROM Manager, or a volumeDown-Power cycle. s-off is still there, root apps still work, so I'm rooted.
I am, however, at hboot 2.16, I guess since I took that first OTA.
So, I'm at hboot 2.16, with s-off, and rooted, with CWM recovery.
So, why can't I flash that stock recovery in order to be able to take that 2nd GB OTA?
Thanks.
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fYI - you posted in the wrong section and you are going to get flamed... Also if you rooted your Evo to flash roms why do you unflash them to take OTA updates when they are all over xda development. My friend you are only asking for trouble and it seems to of found you....
My goodness people do some damn research before doing anything.. Quite sure you have a good reason for rooting then unrooting to flash something thats on every page in xda... Quite sure you have your reasons
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dude...f***ing AWESOME ROM!! i had no idea that you could do that with the evo!!
watch the video in my sig....will answer a few question! k thx!!
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Love the video. I already Thanked You. Please can you tell me where the XXXDA site is...
I Am no Expert with unrevoked but I am fimilar with it when you say your were trying to flash a stock recovery and got the triangle with an explanation mark that is what i believe is a stock recovery and it is looking for a pass card in the sdcard slot that techs use to reflash rom as to the second update you said you have hboot2.16 with s-off that is more than likely why your are getting the error the second update unroots the phone and returns the phone to s-on and will not let you root so be glad the second update failed as some of the others have said just install one the stock rooted updates and all will be fine and you will still have root
Sorry 4G peeps
Unrevoked needs to go 3D. come join the fun, and help us with our root
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Unrevoked needs to go 3D. come join the fun, and help us with our root
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1. You posted in the wrong section
2. You posted in the wrong device
Anyone else trying to update stock to 4.53.651.1 but it fails to install? If you take the ota after revolutionarys unlock I can not install the update. I believe this is due to the hboot version. Which seems to be how they got around the locking in he first place.
Also where is the ota on the phone? I want to pull it off the phone and try a re ruu and install it again.
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Anyone else trying to update stock to 4.53.651.1 but it fails to install? If you take the ota after revolutionarys unlock I can not install the update. I believe this is due to the hboot version. Which seems to be how they got around the locking in he first place.
Also where is the ota on the phone? I want to pull it off the phone and try a re ruu and install it again.
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Have you checked Development section for the latest stock rom. Also why would you try to do an OTA after rooting. It may take away your root. Just wait it out or try a custom rom that probably has more than the stock 4.53 rom.
You rooted to get away from stock why go back when you now have options better than stock.
Rooted Stock Roms link here
Getting root back isn't a problem. I want a nandroid backup with the.latest. the original reason for me to root wasn't to run a custom Rom. It was to remove the extra bloatware.
But after being in the EVO for a few months now I am going to play with the other roms. I just wanted to see if the most recent update had any changes worth staying on stock.
I will most likely be going to cm7. Since that's what I have on my craptivate.
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Getting root back isn't a problem. I want a nandroid backup with the.latest. the original reason for me to root wasn't to run a custom Rom. It was to remove the extra bloatware.
But after being in the EVO for a few months now I am going to play with the other roms. I just wanted to see if the most recent update had any changes worth staying on stock.
I will most likely be going to cm7. Since that's what I have on my craptivate.
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ok but still why unroot? Just download a rooted version and if you like remove the bloatware. going back to stock you loose options and gain bloat.
Stock rooted is better than Stock non rooted....all day everyday
The issue is your custom recovery, not custom hboot. Sprint OTAs depend on the stock recovery, which in layman's terms is a "fake" recovery. It can't be used by the user but the recovery knows what to do with the OTA packages.
Look around for a PC36IMG.zip of the stock Sprint recovery.img. I saw one the other day in the Dev section.
And the latest OTA is rootable, just to clear that up.
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Oh and to answer your where does it download question...I believe in /data/tmp or /data/local/tmp, but i am not 100% sure. It believe it would be in one of the tmp folders for sure though.
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