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Hi, my Evo is a launch one (HW002). Ive been running Magnus ROM for the last month, but today I decided to give Virus's ROM a try, and after download and 3 wipes of the usual suspects (cache, dalvik, data) plus the Format All zip, I flashed my ROM but when I came back I was stuck on a boot loop. So I nand back to Magnus again, and then decide to flash Kings 2.3 Sense ROM, and also had a boot loop! This has never happened before, and I was able to nand back to Magnus..... is there something wrong with my phone, that is not letting me flash ANY new ROM at all???
Well I don't own eco but I think u should format data and stuff before flashing and go back to stock and start all over and also I would never try a rom with the name virus smh
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Droga said:
Hi, my Evo is a launch one (HW002). Ive been running Magnus ROM for the last month, but today I decided to give Virus's ROM a try, and after download and 3 wipes of the usual suspects (cache, dalvik, data) plus the Format All zip, I flashed my ROM but when I came back I was stuck on a boot loop. So I nand back to Magnus again, and then decide to flash Kings 2.3 Sense ROM, and also had a boot loop! This has never happened before, and I was able to nand back to Magnus..... is there something wrong with my phone, that is not letting me flash ANY new ROM at all???
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What recovery are you using to flash the rom? Clockwork or Amon ra? What radios are you on? Which Virus rom were you trying to flash? I've never had trouble.trying.to boot any of his.roms, they are usually solid.
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k2buckley said:
What recovery are you using to flash the rom? Clockwork or Amon ra? What radios are you on? Which Virus rom were you trying to flash? I've never had trouble.trying.to boot any of his.roms, they are usually solid.
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Amons recovery, latest radio and newest Virus 2.3 ROM. Ive never had trouble flashing ANY ROM before, and all of a sudden my phone is acting up. At least it is letting nand back to my previous ROM.
Droga said:
Amons recovery, latest radio and newest Virus 2.3 ROM. Ive never had trouble flashing ANY ROM before, and all of a sudden my phone is acting up. At least it is letting nand back to my previous ROM.
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Hmm, that's odd. Are you sure the files you're trying to flash aren't corrupted? You said you did a full wipe, including a format all, so an improper wipe is ruled out. I unfortunately don't have a lot to suggest. I think if that was happening to me, I would first try reflashing my recovery, and then try wiping and flashing again.
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k2buckley said:
Hmm, that's odd. Are you sure the files you're trying to flash aren't corrupted? You said you did a full wipe, including a format all, so an improper wipe is ruled out. I unfortunately don't have a lot to suggest. I think if that was happening to me, I would first try reflashing my recovery, and then try wiping and flashing again.
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Already tried that, no go.
I guess Im stuck with my ROM for the time being....
Droga said:
Already tried that, no go.
I guess Im stuck with my ROM for the time being....
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I wish I had more to try suggesting for you. Its odd that both of the roms you tried flashing were sense based 2.3 roms. I wonder if you're phone doesn't like the kernel that comes cooked into those roms. I think virus's 2.3 rom uses the same kernel as the 2.3 king's rom. Perhaps after you flash the rom, you could power off the phone, take out the sd card, and try booting it without the sd card in it. I've heard of weird booting issues being caused by an issue with the sd card. It certainly couldn't hurt anything to try it, but I would think that if that was the issue, you'd have trouble booting any rom. I'd still try it though.
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I wish I had more to try suggesting for you. Its odd that both of the roms you tried flashing were sense based 2.3 roms. I wonder if you're phone doesn't like the kernel that comes cooked into those roms. I think virus's 2.3 rom uses the same kernel as the 2.3 king's rom. Perhaps after you flash the rom, you could power off the phone, take out the sd card, and try booting it without the sd card in it. I've heard of weird booting issues being caused by an issue with the sd card. It certainly couldn't hurt anything to try it, but I would think that if that was the issue, you'd have trouble booting any rom. I'd still try it though.
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If his phone doesn't like the stock kernel, I'd recommend flashing a custom kernel in the same session, after wiping the cache and dalvik after he flashes the rom.
teh roxxorz said:
If his phone doesn't like the stock kernel, I'd recommend flashing a custom kernel in the same session, after wiping the cache and dalvik after he flashes the rom.
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Right, which is definitely what I'd normally suggest. However, since he's trying to use the new Sense 2.3 roms, there arent really any custom kernels for those roms yet. Some people have reported success with Netarchy's, but it breaks the camera app. Other people reported loops with netarchy. Basically, there arent any custom kernels for any 2.3 GB + sense roms yet, so his kernel switching is limited. He could try another one, and may have it work, as some other people had reported. But his camera won't work!
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Righ, which is definitely what I'd normally suggest. However, since he's trying to use the new Sense 2.3 roms, there arent really any custom kernels for those roms yet. Some people have reported success with Netarchy's, but it breaks the camera app. Other people reported loops with netarchy. Basically, there arent any custom kernels for any 2.3 GB + sense roms yet, so his kernel switching is limited. He could try another one, and may have it work, as some other people had reported. But his camera won't work!
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I had already tried another ROM ( Myn's Warm Z) just to see if it is the kernels and the Sense 2.3 combination, but that didnt give me any problems at all. So Im guessing it is the kernel included in those ROMS. I will try your suggestions, though, just to see if they actually make a difference. Thanks for the kind help.
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Right, which is definitely what I'd normally suggest. However, since he's trying to use the new Sense 2.3 roms, there arent really any custom kernels for those roms yet. Some people have reported success with Netarchy's, but it breaks the camera app. Other people reported loops with netarchy. Basically, there arent any custom kernels for any 2.3 GB + sense roms yet, so his kernel switching is limited. He could try another one, and may have it work, as some other people had reported. But his camera won't work!
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True...but from what I've heard [haven't flashed it] but some have reported success with stock kernel 15, and it not breaking anything, so he could try that...
teh roxxorz said:
True...but from what I've heard [haven't flashed it] but some have reported success with stock kernel 15, and it not breaking anything, so he could try that...
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This is true.
Hey OP, you catching this? Lol. Try flashing the stock HTC 15 kernel right after you flash the rom, but before you boot. See if that makes any difference.
This is why teamwork wins.
teh roxxorz said:
True...but from what I've heard [haven't flashed it] but some have reported success with stock kernel 15, and it not breaking anything, so he could try that...
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k2buckley said:
This is true.
Hey OP, you catching this? Lol. Try flashing the stock HTC 15 kernel right after you flash the rom, but before you boot. See if that makes any difference.
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I will do this and come back with results in a while.
Muy Bien amigo.
I'll be floating around.
teh roxxorz said:
This is why teamwork wins.
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Always true!
Hopefully the different kernel helps him out!
Tried stock kernel #15: no go.
Thanks for the help, though!
Droga said:
Tried stock kernel #15: no go.
Thanks for the help, though!
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Damn. That sucks. I'm not sure what would be causing that. You wiped, you tried a different kernel, your radios and PRI are updated, you tried booting without the SD card in place. I'm not sure what'd send you to bootloops. Did you happen to try updating to the most recently leaked radio? The one that was in the dump from the leaked gingerbread rom? Although I doubt that'd make any difference, but you never know. I flashed it the other day, and it works just as good as all the other ones. I never really notice a major difference from changing radios. But the leaked one does work.
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Tried stock kernel #15: no go.
Thanks for the help, though!
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Sorry man.
teh roxxorz said:
Sorry man.
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No worries. I was able to install a new custom ROM just now (Kings R3) and it installed just fine. I will try again to install the other ROMS just to see if it will work today.
Hey guys, I seem to be having a problem on my phone recently.. Every time I start it up, or try to load an app or something, I get a message saying the process ends. This happens with Google Apps, Gingerbread Keyboard, Etc. I've tried wipe x3 then reflash, but it doesn't do anything.
I'm running
Genocide Kernel, Firmware 2.2.1, And Simply AOSP v3.1.2
I believe it's still on SFR 1.2 , but it's not saying that in the build number so I'm not sure..
someone please help.
If you have a good nand backup you can do a factory data reset and then restore advanced data. That will clear up any of the FCs. Or clear data in each of the apps giving you problems in settings>applications>manage applications>all and scroll to google services framework and click it and clear data. Do the same for the Gingerbread keyboard and any other app FCing.
kennyglass123 said:
If you have a good nand backup you can do a factory data reset and then restore advanced data. That will clear up any of the FCs. Or clear data in each of the apps giving you problems in settings>applications>manage applications>all and scroll to google services framework and click it and clear data. Do the same for the Gingerbread keyboard and any other app FCing.
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I will try this, but the other problem is, it just started having problems with the android processor. Like, I did a restore, and all the sudden, I'm getting all the errors I was getting originally, and like the core & android processor thing is failing.
JWhitez said:
I will try this, but the other problem is, it just started having problems with the android processor. Like, I did a restore, and all the sudden, I'm getting all the errors I was getting originally, and like the core & android processor thing is failing.
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Sounds like you did not have journaling enabled. The Factory Data reset and a reflash of your ROM should fix it. Find out how to enable journaling for your ROM and do it.
kennyglass123 said:
Sounds like you did not have journaling enabled. The Factory Data reset and a reflash of your ROM should fix it. Find out how to enable journaling for your ROM and do it.
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I'm sort of new to this, so just one more question. Now, I had Syndicate Frozen Rom 1.2 on originally, then I flashed Simply AOSP 3.1.2 . Which one would I reflash, Simply AOSP or SFR?
JWhitez said:
I'm sort of new to this, so just one more question. Now, I had Syndicate Frozen Rom 1.2 on originally, then I flashed Simply AOSP 3.1.2 . Which one would I reflash, Simply AOSP or SFR?
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I believe Simply AOSP is a full ROM including kernel so that would be what you would reflash.
kennyglass123 said:
I believe Simply AOSP is a full ROM including kernel so that would be what you would reflash.
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EDIT: Thank you very much. I just did it and it's working very well. I think it might have messed it up because I was trying to load 2 kernels without knowing it. Thanks for all the help.
JWhitez said:
So theres no need to flash the Genocide Kernel I used for SFR?
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When you install a new ROM like AOSP all of that is gone. If you want to do SFR and Genocide instead of AOSP then go ahead. We should get you up and running first though and then you know the steps to take when it screws up again.
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When you install a new ROM like AOSP all of that is gone. If you want to do SFR and Genocide instead of AOSP then go ahead. We should get you up and running first though and then you know the steps to take when it screws up again.
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Yeah Kenny is right, as usual. If you decide to try SRF 1.2, flash the ROM, then journal on zip, then the kernel you want to use then reboot and enjoy.
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JohnCorleone said:
Yeah Kenny is right, as usual. If you decide to try SRF 1.2, flash the ROM, then journal on zip, then the kernel you want to use then reboot and enjoy.
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Thanks John, welcome to the party. I think what you suggest is exactly what he needs. He just PMd that after selecting another theme in Simply AOSP it started FCing again.
JohnCorleone said:
Yeah Kenny is right, as usual. If you decide to try SRF 1.2, flash the ROM, then journal on zip, then the kernel you want to use then reboot and enjoy.
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Thanks, I'm back on SFR 1.2 with no problems, but I didn't need to flash jounral on, so I don't know. Would you know what to do to get on Simply AOSP 3.1.2 , because it has a kernel built in.
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Thanks, I'm back on SFR 1.2 with no problems, but I didn't need to flash jounral on, so I don't know. Would you know what to do to get on Simply AOSP 3.1.2 , because it has a kernel built in.
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Well, if you already have the ROM downloaded and it includes a kernel, all you should have to do is wipe everything 3x and flash it
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JohnCorleone said:
Well, if you already have the ROM downloaded and it includes a kernel, all you should have to do is wipe everything 3x and flash it
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Whenever I do that, I get all those FC's...
I'll give it a go again if I don't decide to go to EG22..
JWhitez said:
Whenever I do that, I get all those FC's...
I'll give it a go again if I don't decide to go to EG22..
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I would suggest either pming or posting on the AOSP thread what setup you're on and how best to convert to their Rom. Sometimes they've heard of conflicts or tricks that they can walk you through. I love SRF, but if you want to explore, you should know what works best to transition. You'll get it going, just keep toying. Worst you have to do is Odin and that's not terrible for the phone now and again.
The Root said:
I would suggest either pming or posting on the AOSP thread what setup you're on and how best to convert to their Rom. Sometimes they've heard of conflicts or tricks that they can walk you through. I love SRF, but if you want to explore, you should know what works best to transition. You'll get it going, just keep toying. Worst you have to do is Odin and that's not terrible for the phone now and again.
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I gave up on it.. Went to EG22. Still debating on whether or not to go back to SFR / Simply AOSP.. because the battery life on RandomROM is absolutely amazing. But I'll PM him.
I finally got mms working, but am bored with 2.2. I have been looking at Sense and ICS roms, but was wondering if i were to flash any rom, would i end up losing my configuration settings, or would they carry over? Right now im on Jiminy V
May have to reconfigure the apns to get mms working if you flash a rom
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I finally got mms working, but am bored with 2.2.
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How is anybody STILL on 2.2?
if i were to flash any rom, would i end up losing my configuration settings,
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When you flash a new rom, you wipe everything, including data, meaning your phone will have nothing configured or setup, just like a brand new phone.
Lmao im on 2.2 because of Jiminy V rom lmao but i dont wanna be on it anymore
sitlet said:
How is anybody STILL on 2.2?
When you flash a new rom, you wipe everything, including data, meaning your phone will have nothing configured or setup, just like a brand new phone.
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This is partially true. If you were to flash say.... Cm7.0.1 to Cm7.1, it doesn't wipe. It just updates. Or to better explain, if it's the same ROMs, usually you won't have to wipe. But from Froyo to Gingerbread I do believe it will wipe for you. Either way I would wipe anyway going from Froyo to GB. Most ROMs now have everything working. I'd personally recommend Decks 1.3d or CM7 #256 for AOSP. MikG or Kingdoms for Sense. I've heard good things about them. But I've never been a fan of Sense so.... Not much help there.
This is partially true. If you were to flash say.... Cm7.0.1 to Cm7.1, it doesn't wipe. It just updates.
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Technically true, however you should ALWAYS do a full wipe between flashing, even if you are flashing a rom update. I have always had problems when flashing an update and not wiping.
sitlet said:
Technically true, however you should ALWAYS do a full wipe between flashing, even if you are flashing a rom update. I have always had problems when flashing an update and not wiping.
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Some say yes, others no. Although it is safer to do it this way to avoid problems, i've never had issues. Hell, I've even went from Decks 1.3 to 1.3d with no problems
sorry..
Hi Guys.. Im new and i was wondering how to switch from rom to rom correctly.. i had one by one team that was sense 3.5 and tried to flash one that was sense 3.0.. i was able to do it but i had both roms almost.. i still had some of the wall papers and apk.. i tried looking all over and no luck.. if anyone can help please pm me or write a response THANK YOU!
MIUI
Try MIUI, one of the best roms IMO. Runs good, and looks even better.
About a week ago my just wifi and tether stopped working.
What happens:
When attempting to "toggle on" toggle will switch from on then back to off after several minutes sometimes the toggle will grey out
Things I have done to try to fix it:
-Factory data reset
-Reflashed ROM
-Flashed different kernals
-Flashed different radios
-Flashed different ROMS everything from cm7 to cm10 and sense based roms
Additional info:
Wifi and tether were working the night before, my battery was low so my phone died with tether still on. I plugged it in and left it alone until the next morning
ROM I was using at the time: Andromadus Mimicry 1.5 w Aero14
luzfero said:
About a week ago my just wifi and tether stopped working.
What happens:
When attempting to "toggle on" toggle will switch from on then back to off after several minutes sometimes the toggle will grey out
Things I have done to try to fix it:
-Factory data reset
-Reflashed ROM
-Flashed different kernals
-Flashed different radios
-Flashed different ROMS everything from cm7 to cm10 and sense based roms
Additional info:
Wifi and tether were working the night before, my battery was low so my phone died with tether still on. I plugged it in and left it alone until the next morning
ROM I was using at the time: Andromadus Mimicry 1.5 w Aero14
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Are you using Tasker or anything to control wifi? And have you checked wifi on other devices, meaning have you confirmed your router is actually working? And have you restored wifi passwords using titanium? I have broken wifi restoring wifi data.
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NeverSeparate said:
Are you using Tasker or anything to control wifi? ..have you checked wifi on other devices, meaning have you confirmed your router is actually working? And have you restored wifi passwords using titanium?
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No, I still had the problem no matter what rom I used even before I could install any apps. I've checked on two different wifi networks that were confirmed to be working. My problem is my wifi won't even switch on to check for networks.
luzfero said:
No, I still had the problem no matter what rom I used even before I could install any apps. I've checked on two different wifi networks that were confirmed to be working. My problem is my wifi won't even switch on to check for networks.
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Was that no to all questions including restoring from titanium? If so, then I would say it's hardware related. If it was just a setting then flashing a new rom would fix it.
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NeverSeparate said:
Was that no to all questions including restoring from titanium? If so, then I would say it's hardware related. If it was just a setting then flashing a new rom would fix it.
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That was what I was afraid of. I was hoping it was just a driver problem but I appreciate your help
luzfero said:
That was what I was afraid of. I was hoping it was just a driver problem but I appreciate your help
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I'm no developer, so I don't claim to understand how all those things work. So maybe someone has more info that would help. But generally if something that did work just quits it means something broke.
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If the wifi *never* works, it may be that your kernel driver for the wifi device is either not installed or doesn't match the current kernel. If it works some of the time then fails, it's probably broken hardware.
Fixing the kernel problem means you'll need to find a kernel update zip and flash it in recovery. See the dev forum to find one
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If the wifi *never* works, it may be that your kernel driver for the wifi device is either not installed or doesn't match the current kernel. If it works some of the time then fails, it's probably broken hardware.
Fixing the kernel problem means you'll need to find a kernel update zip and flash it in recovery. See the dev forum to find one
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That could be potentially great news! Is there a certain kernel I should be looking for?
The only ones I've seen are for the radio and for performance.
luzfero said:
That could be potentially great news! Is there a certain kernel I should be looking for?
The only ones I've seen are for the radio and for performance.
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Gotta ask, but what radio are you using now? Flashing a rom will install the latest kernel...
Also be sure you are s-off hence flashing aeros kernel while only HTC dev unlocked will bork your wifi. What rom are you running btw?
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do you have a nandroid backup?it does just use the back up,if you dont have a back up and you fix your problem,always is a good idea to make a nandroid back up.
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Gotta ask, but what radio are you using now? Flashing a rom will install the latest kernel...
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I was using the latest radio but flashed back to .1111 as an attempt to fix my problem.
GoonAssJuan said:
Also be sure you are s-off hence flashing aeros kernel while only HTC dev unlocked will bork your wifi. What rom are you running btw?
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Yup I'm S-off, was running Mimicry at the time.
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do you have a nandroid backup?it does just use the back up,if you dont have a back up and you fix your problem,always is a good idea to make a nandroid back up.
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Yeah I always backup before any changes. Tried restoring backups but it was a no go.
Tried IRC, so I'm going to try here also.
Anytime I use a ZVB or ZVC based ROM, the kernel crashes within 10-15 seconds of being flashed. No matter which of those based ROMs I use, I get the kernel crash in the same time period. I've tried different kernels as well, but none have worked. I've use Awesome's Kernel Cleaner each time before flashing the kernels, but get the same result.
Here's the kicker though, if I use any of the AOSP ROMs it will run fine. My only problem is there was no EFS backup, so I get no service, which pretty much makes using the 4.3.x+ ROMs useless. Basically, I'm trying to get back to stock ROMs so I can get service and save the EFS to use on the later ROMs. If I can even just get the ZVC ROM working that would be great too.
I'm not sure if there is a AOSP kernel stuck in there or something, and it's not clearing it out, or what is going on. I'm doing a complete wipe with data everytime I flash.
I appreciate any help, and thank you for taking the time to read!
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Did you flash a radio ?
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When flashing the ZV ROMs? I did the ZVB radio when I did the stock ROM. I might have done it after instead of before though.
Jxt. said:
you only flash a radio once, have you been doing it everytime you flash a rom?
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Only when I went from ZVB to ZVC just to be sure. Would the radio cause the kernel crashing?
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yes could be, can you give me the that you got the radio from
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40169203
HyphyCus said:
Tried IRC, so I'm going to try here also.
Anytime I use a ZVB or ZVC based ROM, the kernel crashes within 10-15 seconds of being flashed. No matter which of those based ROMs I use, I get the kernel crash in the same time period. I've tried different kernels as well, but none have worked. I've use Awesome's Kernel Cleaner each time before flashing the kernels, but get the same result.
Here's the kicker though, if I use any of the AOSP ROMs it will run fine. My only problem is there was no EFS backup, so I get no service, which pretty much makes using the 4.3.x+ ROMs useless. Basically, I'm trying to get back to stock ROMs so I can get service and save the EFS to use on the later ROMs. If I can even just get the ZVC ROM working that would be great too.
I'm not sure if there is a AOSP kernel stuck in there or something, and it's not clearing it out, or what is going on. I'm doing a complete wipe with data everytime I flash.
I appreciate any help, and thank you for taking the time to read!
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Are you wiping /system too? If in TWRP 2.5.0.0, wipe>advanced click all 4. If 2.6.x.x all BUT internal data
He told me in irc that this originally happened after the screen broke and he replaced it. After that anything stock gives a kernel crash but aosp doesnt.... if that helps anyone trying to help him.
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Are you wiping /system too? If in TWRP 2.5.0.0, wipe>advanced click all 4. If 2.6.x.x all BUT internal data
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Using 2.6.3.0, and wiping everything but SD card. Wiping 3x before installing ROM, gapps and kernel. Tried multiple stock based kernels. Can install CM or Slimbean and it will boot no problem, and work fine. It's just the stock ROMs, and tried Lifeless as well.
Guess this has everyone stumped huh?
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Guess this has everyone stumped huh?
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There's always LGNPST. Only other option to see if it'll fix it.
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engine95 said:
There's always LGNPST. Only other option to see if it'll fix it.
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Tried that with the stock ZV9, ZVB and ZVC. Even used LG flash.
Here's an idea that came in my head. Maybe it's crashing when it tries to connect to the Sprint network. Since the AOSP ROMs never attempt to connect to it, they don't crash. But the stock ROMs do, so they crash when attempting.
If I'm not rooted, I get just a reboot. If I run SuperSU from TWRP before rebooting, then I get the Kernel Crash screen when it reboots.