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My phone is blacklisted

so my phone i bought off craigslist is blacklisted. what do i doo? can i delete the efs folder and it will work? or like unlock it and it will work on att? what do i do!?

You may be stuck. Did you get any type of proof of purchase off the person. Anyway to prove you bought it from a legitimate owner?
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i bought it off craigslist so i have to proof and the person wont pick up. what do i do!?

Without being able to prove you bought the phone in a legit deal probably nothing. Craigslist is full of this. I also got my phone from craigslist but had the guy meet me at a t mobile store and got a t mobile rep to verify the transaction.
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You may be stuck. There have been three other posts that I can remember about same thing happening. Unless you can providetmobile that you bought it feom that perso. And show he purchased it and didnt steal it, they may be able to take it off blacklist.
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i bought it off craigslist so i have to proof and the person wont pick up. what do i do!?
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chib1panda said:
You may be stuck. There have been three other posts that I can remember about same thing happening. Unless you can providetmobile that you bought it feom that perso. And show he purchased it and didnt steal it, they may be able to take it off blacklist.
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Something i have been wondering lately... So far, i have only seen documents of the sk4g (my own personal experience) and gs2 being blacklisted. Do all phones now qualify? Only samsung?
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Good job, admitting to insurance fraud on a public board...

n1n00b said:
Good job, admitting to insurance fraud on a public board...
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^ hahaha
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There is one of three reasons you're blacklisted.
The phone was reported lost/stolen to Asurion and a claim was made.
The phone is a T-Mobile demo device that was stolen.
It was purchased on a Value plan and the customer defaulted on the bill.
You can try tinkering with the efs but no idea what trouble that will get you in or if that works on the GS2. If you can find the craigslist ad or money order receipt they may reverse it but it might have to go to risk assessment and take awhile.

ungarisch said:
WTF??? blacklist? there is no such thing, I'm currently using a GS2 that was "lost" by my GF, claimed on insurance, and "found" by me.
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I was wondering if they considered a difference between lost and stolen. But again, i was told they blacklist for reasons that directly affect them - fraud, theft from a store, or not making payments.
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I thought asurion required that you file a police report if you told them someone stole it before they filed your claim? If you say its lost and found it later they may not blacklist it assuming that most people will . I have heard that at times asurion will allow you to keep your found phone if you claim lost then found it later. Not 100% sure on that.
jonathan3579 said:
I was wondering if they considered a difference between lost and stolen. But again, i was told they blacklist for reasons that directly affect them - fraud, theft from a store, or not making payments.
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i change any phone imei before using it.
who cares blacklist or not, it is censorship, same as SOPA and PIPA.
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I thought asurion required that you file a police report if you told them someone stole it before they filed your claim? If you say its lost and found it later they may not blacklist it assuming that most people will . I have heard that at times asurion will allow you to keep your found phone if you claim lost then found it later. Not 100% sure on that.
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Yep. I have a manager friend at a T-Mobile store who advised me and others to NEVER report stolen.
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cgigate said:
i change any phone imei before using it.
who cares blacklist or not, it is censorship, same as SOPA and PIPA.
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Lol
I wasnt sure you existed

yeah I don't think tmobile or asurion will blacklist a phone if it was lost because if found, it can still be used. However, if someone purposely stole a phone from a store/person, then it would be blacklisted. Not 100% sure but sounds about right.

well the phone is brand new condition. no scratches nothing. you think ill be able to sell it for only $200?

no, keep it as a tablet, or file a police report, and hope to get your money back

Don't sell it or your just as bad as the person who sold it to you
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clninja said:
Don't sell it or your just as bad as the person who sold it to you
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true statement.unless you tell the person exactly the situation the phone is in.maybe a developer can use it
From a glaxay better than yours.

AllGamer said:
no, keep it as a tablet, or file a police report, and hope to get your money back
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Seconded like in every other fraud or stolen phone thread

Currently owner of an htc amaze

I'm currently an owner of an htc amaze 4g. Ive seen people exchange from the htc amaze to the Samsung galaxy s2. I just want to know how I could do that? I'm really getting tired of the problem that this phone has. I really want a Samsung galaxy s2. What's the easiest way to do that? Should I just buy a new one? :/.
Thank you for reading this.
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I traded my amaze on Craigslist for one.
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OP if you bought it w/in 14 days you can exchange it. I did.

Can you still use the 1 year warranty and tmobile warranty after you buy one on craigslist?
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elbarto7 said:
OP if you bought it w/in 14 days you can exchange it. I did.
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Ive had mine for 2 months.
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jsalazarcervantes said:
Ive had mine for 2 months.
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What problems are you experiencing specifically? Screen dust?

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What problems are you experiencing specifically? Screen dust?
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lol everyone says that. well the i cant put a case on because it makes the wifi signal weaker, the flash messes up the pictures at night, the faceplate creaks when you put pressure on it(its very loud) and haptic keys on the bottom of the screen bleed through the screen of the phone so you can see it lighter on the bottom of the phone. that's a problem with all of the htc amaze. im just tired of all of those problems. i love htc sense though :/. is there any way to put htc sense on the samsung galaxy s2?

jsalazarcervantes said:
Can you still use the 1 year warranty and tmobile warranty after you buy one on craigslist?
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Officially? No. However I bought a sensation on Craigslist and it stopped charging after a month. I think I broke the charging port. I went to t mobile chat and told them. At one point I was asked where I got the phone. I lied and told them from t mobile and they replaced it with the amaze. My old sgs4g I Gabe to my wife who is on her own plan and she started having software issues so she called t mobile up and had that replaced.
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If.you.go.through three.or.mote warranty exchanges in 90days or less, you are offered an alternate exchange. A new phone but there is no.guarantee it'll be the sgs2.
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Exodian said:
Officially? No. However I bought a sensation on Craigslist and it stopped charging after a month. I think I broke the charging port. I went to t mobile chat and told them. At one point I was asked where I got the phone. I lied and told them from t mobile and they replaced it with the amaze. My old sgs4g I Gabe to my wife who is on her own plan and she started having software issues so she called t mobile up and had that replaced.
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Ohh alright. Let's say I exchange the phone with a sgs2 on craigslist. If the phone breaks and take it to tmobile do I just tell them that I bought it there and I should be off the hook?
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Well if it breaks such as physicoal damage no because that goes through insurance. If its anything related to.manufacturers defect such as rebooting or freezing then yes they'll help you out.
jsalazarcervantes said:
Ohh alright. Let's say I exchange the phone with a sgs2 on craigslist. If the phone breaks and take it to tmobile do I just tell them that I bought it there and I should be off the hook?
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jsalazarcervantes said:
i love htc sense though :/. is there any way to put htc sense on the samsung galaxy s2?
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hahaha that made my day. Im pretty sure no dev will want to attempt this. TW is so much better than Sense.

What do you like about sense? Some things you can get back such as home screen movements animation and weather widget
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chib1panda said:
If.you.go.through three.or.mote warranty exchanges in 90days or less, you are offered an alternate exchange. A new phone but there is no.guarantee it'll be the sgs2.
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That is not ture anymore. I went through 4 HTC Sensations and the current one is having issues, and they will not replace it with a different model. I've tried multiple agents and pleaded at several stores.

Well was it within 90 days or less. Its in their policy. They are probably untrained or overlooking it. I have done this on two occassions. You can always have them transfer you to retention. Or if you complain hard enough you can initiate them to look at their policy. My wife has the mytouch 4g and had some freezing issues last month. She went through two exchagnes in a matter of weeks. The Rep told her at both the store while I was there and one on chat that if she specifically had three or more exchanges for the same device within 90 days an alternate phone would be offered. It is similar to or better. The reps can't choose as it chides the most comparable phone to your current one as well as same price or more. Sometimes they offered another option. It would be worth mentioning the policy next time or speaking to a manager and or retention.
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That is not ture anymore. I went through 4 HTC Sensations and the current one is having issues, and they will not replace it with a different model. I've tried multiple agents and pleaded at several stores.
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Stay away from Craigslist, lots of insurance scams, water damage, etc. Just take the Amaze back to T-Mobile and ask what they can do for you.
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quest4fire said:
Stay away from Craigslist, lots of insurance scams, water damage, etc. Just take the Amaze back to T-Mobile and ask what they can do for you.
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What do you mean by insurance scams?
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chib1panda said:
Well was it within 90 days or less. Its in their policy. They are probably untrained or overlooking it. I have done this on two occassions. You can always have them transfer you to retention. Or if you complain hard enough you can initiate them to look at their policy. My wife has the mytouch 4g and had some freezing issues last month. She went through two exchagnes in a matter of weeks. The Rep told her at both the store while I was there and one on chat that if she specifically had three or more exchanges for the same device within 90 days an alternate phone would be offered. It is similar to or better. The reps can't choose as it chides the most comparable phone to your current one as well as same price or more. Sometimes they offered another option. It would be worth mentioning the policy next time or speaking to a manager and or retention.
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For clarification tmobile use to do that they dont always anymore speaking with retention will do nothing in terms of that we cant force it to happen neither can a manager either your given the option or not. I believe they made changes to prevent people fraudelantly doing this just because they know the policy. Best thing you can do is sell your phone and just buy a galaxy s 2 used, just find a reputable seller.
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That's lame. So they'd rather have an unhappy customer that's gone through many refurbished versus, than just shipping out a newer. Phone? I can see how warranty stuff can be abused.
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For clarification tmobile use to do that they dont always anymore speaking with retention will do nothing in terms of that we cant force it to happen neither can a manager either your given the option or not. I believe they made changes to prevent people fraudelantly doing this just because they know the policy. Best thing you can do is sell your phone and just buy a galaxy s 2 used, just find a reputable seller.
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What do you mean by insurance scams?
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People sell their phones on Craigslist and then report it lost/stolen and file an insurance claim with T-Mobile/Assurion. They get shipped a replacement phone and your phone gets blacklisted which means it wont work on T-mobile.

Just got my gsm gn. Have a few questions. Please help.

Okay so I just got my gn from amazon and I was wondering if there is any way to get insurance for this device. I'm coming from a tmo gs2 and I accidentally dropped it less than 2 weeks of owning it n it got a few dents around the edges. With that in mind I can't stop thinking about a bunch of "what if's" that might happen. Lol I love everything about this phone but I don't want to end up damaging this phone too cuz we all know **** happens.lol I'm already going to buy a case. But screens can still get cracked if it lands a certain way. Not only that. What if the phone malfunctions .would I be able to atleast send for repairs even if I can't get insurance? hopefully I didn't make a bad decision. Or would it be better if i just got the verizon one instead. At first i would've gotten the verizon one but cancelling my contract with tmo, paying the deposit fee and then buying the phone was turning out to be more expensive than just buying the gsm phone. But at the end of the day if I do have issues with this one I have now. That would be money down the drain instead of being able to get it replaced if I were with Verizon...right? Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide.
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Your options are go without any insurance, get phone insurance or do what I did, put it on my home insurance

Damn I just realized I posted in the wrong section. Smh
I forgot to mention. I live in the US and I have t mobile. From the little help i have gotten from searches online about the insurance. I'm getting the vibe that since the phone is not released out here I have no way to get insurance? Which leads me to the other question I had, if there's a way to send for repairs if the phone breaks.
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I am also with TMobile and because you didn't get the phone from them the insurance they offer will not apply. Not sure about the homeowners insurance, worth a phone call to your agent but usually the deductibles on H/O is $500+ so that's kind of a wash.
I purchased my phone from Expansys and according to them if there is a problem (warranty) they will support what the manufacturer offers.
Good luck and be careful.
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If you search a little bit you will see a thread I started on which company will and will not cover these imported phones
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Excuse me for my blindness lol but can direct me to the thread please. Thanks
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If you search a little bit you will see a thread I started on which company will and will not cover these imported phones
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Just get a case and screen protector. Only insurance most people need.
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Hey. Thanks a lot for the info. I went ahead n checked thru ur threads and found it. I contacted ensquared through a message asking if they covered the galaxy nexus GSM model and they called me back in less than 10 minutes and the person over the phone told me they do insure it and it doesn't matter what carrier I have or if the phone is unlocked. I asked twice to make sure cuz it sounded to good to be true n he confirmed that they do cover the phone. I feel so much better now. Thanks again
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If you search a little bit you will see a thread I started on which company will and will not cover these imported phones
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I'm going to give them a call now myself. It was never really resolved in the other thread mentioned although I think the two should be merged for informational purposes.
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You should be able to get it covered through squaretrade. It'll cost you probably around $100 or so but I've heard good things about their service.

squaretrade will NOT cover this phone. It says so in the fine print on their website and a user here found out the hard way.
To the OP - glad I could help!
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squaretrade will NOT cover this phone. It says so in the fine print on their website and a user here found out the hard way.
To the OP - glad I could help!
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squaretrade does cover this phone i have the insurance myself i paid 69.00 for one year coverage and i pay a 99.00 ded thats it not sure what the other person did but the covered mine i have it in writing and when i log in on there page it says galaxy nexus covered one year.

Replacement phone T-Mobile? Refurbished?

My friend is on contract on T-Mobile he got the note 2 a month ago and he told ordered two replacement refurbished note 2's then he's done with T-Mobile he ain't sending it back or nothing just done paying it and keeping the phones. I told him he can get into trouble for that he can right?? Or does it just mess up his credit? He did it three years ago and nothing happened besides probably bad credit now.
I know a lot of people on Craigslist be getting new phones without battery and back piece and I once bought one and it wouldn't read my Sim card because he never paid it I'm guessing.

The phone will black listed, side note I exchange phones a bunch due to defects or little things Tmobile is becoming much more strict about what they will exchange abs are now charging $5-$20 to process exchanges I wouldn't be surprised if a bill is coming his way soon
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But what else will happen since he done paying and not sending the phones back?

shaqqq said:
But what else will happen since he done paying and not sending the phones back?
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They may bill for a full cost of a replacement phone. I used to work for a t-mobile dealer LONG time ago (9 years ago) and they did the same thing. If we had a customer walk in, we process an exchange on their behalf. But we tell them if they don't send original phone back, they will be getting a large bill. And few people did. T-Mobile does work with them, and will take the charges out if you return the phone.

The phones will be blacklisted. If he sells them the new owner is screwed. Maybe he is Ok with that. If he is, find another friend as this guy proved himself to be a slime ball.
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But what else will happen since he done paying and not sending the phones back?
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You ever see "bad esn" in an ebay auction description for a cell phone...that is what your buddy's phones will have. They can pretty much can be used as a wifi mini tablet, unless he is able to flash the phone to another gsm carrier. Regardless goes against his credit also.

Not true T-Mobile uses sim cards you can do what ever except. For warranty. I know a bit about this subject but the problem with things like this is once people start talking in a public forum than can screw everybody.
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diamantericos said:
Not true T-Mobile uses sim cards you can do what ever except. For warranty. I know a bit about this subject but the problem with things like this is once people start talking in a public forum than can screw everybody.
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Again, not true. The phone WILL be blacklisted and won't work in the country unless you take it overseas maybe. How do I know? I deal with craigslist people and ebay listings for a meager living.

Phones will be blacklisted with Tmobile, Simple mobile and AT&T he will also be billed $600 for not returning the defective phone. The phones they send him will be factory refurbished which means it's just the phone there will be no battery, battery cover, Spen or charger.
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What happens if he doesn't pay that?
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What are you trying to figure out here?
If T-Mobile will send the police knocking if you don't pay?
Its probably the same as all of the pathetic dead beat people who think its OK to steal and don't think they should have to pay bills like the rest of us.
He'll have bad credit (which won't matter to him because he's apparently OK with stealing things anyway) and he'll get away with it for the most part while the rest of us law abiding citizens will continue to pay more for goods and services and more to cover for selfish people like this!!
:-/
Sore spot issue....
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woops wrong thread....

He's clearly talking about himself lol I love it when they get on here and do this. It's like the typical "dad I need your advice..... I have a friend who's......" when all along he's talking about himself. Smh stop stealing and taking advantage of warranties.
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yungtexas said:
He's clearly talking about himself lol I love it when they get on here and do this. It's like the typical "dad I need your advice..... I have a friend who's......" when all along he's talking about himself. Smh stop stealing and taking advantage of warranties.
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Lol it's not me but if you want to think so it's whatever. I have Sprint not TMobile anyways. I am worried about my friend that's why I'm asking. Don't be immature about it.
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Lol it's not me but if you want to think so it's whatever. I have Sprint not TMobile anyways. I am worried about my friend that's why I'm asking. Don't immature be about it.
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Says the guy who's associated with a thief! Right, so scums like him can benefit a small portion whole the rest of us decent people pay for it! Then you'll be back here complaining about how much the deductible is for a flagship phone.
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yungtexas said:
Says the guy who's associated with a thief! Right, so scums like him can benefit a small portion whole the rest of us decent people pay for it! Then you'll be back here complaining about how much the deductible is for a flagship phone.
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Lol why you getting angry smh. Because you know you being immature.
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Lol why you getting angry smh. Because you know you being immature.
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What you're talking about is theft and fraud. You're not going to get any help on criminal activity from anyone here. Nobody is going to give you advice on how to avoid going to jail. In fact, simply talking about it could implicate you for aiding and abeting and now there is proof all over the internet. Good luck.

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What you're talking about is theft and fraud. You're not going to get any help on criminal activity from anyone here. Nobody is going to give you advice on how to avoid going to jail. In fact, simply talking about it could implicate you for aiding and abeting and now there is proof all over the internet. Good luck.
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Lol ok. Your mad because your being immature. You still think it's me obviously. You must be a little kid.

Judgibg by the way you present yourself id say theres a good chance your friend is a hood rat wanna be thug, his credit will be hit and depending on how much he owes it could become a legal matter, this is wjy people like yall cant have nice things
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Insurance Claim on Tmo GS3

I'm currently having some problems with my charger staying plugged to my phone. It's very loose for some reason and constantly unplugs overnight even with the slightest touch.
My screen has been cracked for quite some time now (prior to this issue) but I was wondering if this would restrict me from filing an insurance claim on my phone. Would they hassle me for a broken screen?
Thanks,

basically got 2 options at this point, pay the fee , send your phone back, wait for replacement,
or claim it lost, pay the deductible, keep your phone an let them send another one to you, up to you, not promoting this way,but you do have these two options

for option #1, what exactly is the fee?
I'm considering the option of saying that the phone is just suddenly slightly defective (the charger port) in order to get a new refurb one. I've done this multiple times before and got a replacement for free but never with a broken screen.

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for option #1, what exactly is the fee?
I'm considering the option of saying that the phone is just suddenly slightly defective (the charger port) in order to get a new refurb one. I've done this multiple times before and got a replacement for free but never with a broken screen.
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Filing a claim and getting a refurb will cost you $130. I wouldn't recommend the 2nd option mentioned above, but I'm not going to tell you what or what not to do.
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You can't claim warranty exchange with Tmobile with a broken screen. They will charge you restocking fee $400+. Its better to call insurance which is $150 I believe.
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monkeypaws said:
You can't claim warranty exchange with Tmobile with a broken screen. They will charge you restocking fee $400+. Its better to call insurance which is $150 I believe.
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I agree. This has been my experience. Pay the deductible and keep both phones.

Don't say it's lost and keep both phones, that is insurance fraud.
File an insurance claim on the Asurion website for the honest reason. The fee is $130. They will send you a new phone with free next day shipping, THEN you send your phone back with the provided packaging and prepaid label.
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Towle said:
Don't say it's lost and keep both phones, that is insurance fraud.
File an insurance claim on the Asurion website for the honest reason. The fee is $130. They will send you a new phone with free next day shipping, THEN you send your phone back with the provided packaging and prepaid label.
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Yes that is exactly correct. You can't keep both. If you claim it "lost" they'll blacklist the imei of your old when you get your new. There's no way around it. Don't cheat the system op.
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Appreciate all the replies and insight! It wasn't my intention to file it as "lost" and keep the phone. Just wanted to see if I would still get the same warranty benefits for my loose charger despite the screen being cracked from a previous incident.
Thanks!

eddylee09 said:
Appreciate all the replies and insight! It wasn't my intention to file it as "lost" and keep the phone. Just wanted to see if I would still get the same warranty benefits for my loose charger despite the screen being cracked from a previous incident.
Thanks!
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Sorry I was replying to the poster about keeping both phones but just giving advice to you. I've seen a lot of posts before where people claim they've kept both and found ways around it. .
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I like how people talk about insurance fraud when in reality finding a million ways to go back to stock, triangle away because your phone is messed up from hacking. It's really no difference that's insurance fraud too a little hypocritical
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daxecutioner24 said:
I like how people talk about insurance fraud when in reality finding a million ways to go back to stock, triangle away because your phone is messed up from hacking. It's really no difference that's insurance fraud too a little hypocritical
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But that doesn't cost the company money and cause rates to go up
Returning to stock, the companies are getting the phones back to refurbish and sell again. Lying and saying you lost your $500 phone to get another $500 phone is no where near the same thing.
Not to mention the fact that rooting only voids the manufacturer warranty, not your insurance.
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Towle said:
But that doesn't cost the company money and cause rates to go up
Returning to stock, the companies are getting the phones back to refurbish and sell again. Lying and saying you lost your $500 phone to get another $500 phone is no where near the same thing.
Not to mention the fact that rooting only voids the manufacturer warranty, not your insurance.
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Agree 100%.
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Towle said:
But that doesn't cost the company money and cause rates to go up
Returning to stock, the companies are getting the phones back to refurbish and sell again. Lying and saying you lost your $500 phone to get another $500 phone is no where near the same thing.
Not to mention the fact that rooting only voids the manufacturer warranty, not your insurance.
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Huh how It doesn't cost the company money, shipping cost that they pay.. Hard bricking devices or soft bricks that some don't even bother to fix and send it in.technically a phone is not a phone when you can't call or do what a phone is for when the IMEI is blocked. Also rooting may bring hardware issues etcc so if the phone is malfunctioning people are going to send it in. that's also insurance fraud because you caused the phone to not work and you want to get a new one or refurbished. I get your point though but I still think rates will go up either way, just like gas does when the economy us bad .
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daxecutioner24 said:
Huh how It doesn't cost the company money, shipping cost that they pay.. Hard bricking devices or soft bricks that some don't even bother to fix and send it in.technically a phone is not a phone when you can't call or do what a phone is for when the IMEI is blocked. Also rooting may bring hardware issues etcc so if the phone is malfunctioning people are going to send it in. that's also insurance fraud because you caused the phone to not work and you want to get a new one or refurbished. I get your point though but I still think rates will go up either way, just like gas does when the economy us bad .
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With insurance it doesn't matter if you hacked it and fried the processor. That's what you pay for insurance for. Using it to get a second phone is not what it's for. I see where your point could be valid for a warranty exchange though.
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Towle said:
With insurance it doesn't matter if you hacked it and fried the processor. That's what you pay for insurance for. Using it to get a second phone is not what it's for. I see where your point could be valid for a warranty exchange though.
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Yeah that's what I meant you be surprise there's a bunch of people that don't pay for insurance. So I was looking at it through that perspective because it relates to rates all around.
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Insurance deductible on s3 is $150 not $130. ( went up at end of march )