I happened to buy both of them and feeling like sharing my experience.
Official Samsung desktop dock:
- Audio out 3.5mm jack
- Volume keys
- Both portrait and landscape mode have a comfortable viewing angle
- Automatically opens docking app when docked
- No data syncing, even when charging with USB
- Feels a bit jerky when docking the phone. It won't charge if it's not placed in exactly the right position. I might just be me having a defective unit though.
- Cannot be used with a case on
Mugen desktop dock:
- Supports charging & data sync (requires 2 cables, both included)
- Separate battery charger
- Feels more steady. "Click"- sound when docking the phone, feels like it is holding on to it better than the Samsung dock.
- Portrait mode only
- No audio out or volume keys
- Cannot be used with a case on
Mugen to the left, Samsung to the right
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Both in landscape position. If the Mugen was docked with a phone it would fall over.
Mugen dock with separate battery
Here's some lower quality pictures showing the them in docked state.. I only have one SGS2 so I had to use an older nokia for these pictures
I like both of them, but personally I'll go for the Mugen one, since it supports data syncing and separate battery charging.
And as you can see in the previous picture, the screen is off while docked since I didn't manually open the dock/clock app. The samsung dock opens this automatically. If you know any way to do this with the Mugen dock, help would be appreciated
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Found out that the Mugen dock doesn't charge the korean sgs2 battery from the seperate battery slot. The original battery that came with the phone charges though. Exportprive sells the korean batteries and they seem to be slightly ticker than the batteries from the international phone.
Thanks for the write up and pics!
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You welcome. Just a quick review
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I really wish they'd give it more room to dock with a thin case.
Great review.
Can u check if
1. the mic from the headset works if connected to the audio output or if it just uses the phone mic
2. ANy difference in audio quality between a headphone connected to phone and one connected to the dock
thanks
The audio quality seems to be the same. Just tried
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thanks for the post. are those a set of speakers in the background? They look quite nice. Mind if I ask what they're called?
Nice review, I have a cheap dock with spare battery charging slot, does the job, but was looking at the Mugen one - better built for sure.
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thanks for the post. are those a set of speakers in the background? They look quite nice. Mind if I ask what they're called?
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Lol yeah that's the Logitech Z-5500 5.1 speaker system. Had them for a while now and they still do wonders. The samsung dock can easily be plugged into it btw
thanks for sharing!
can u tell me where to buy the mugen dock pls? thx!
chrislo0904 said:
thanks for sharing!
can u tell me where to buy the mugen dock pls? thx!
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Hit the Google man!
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Hit the Google man!
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Funny ... and so new ...
I don't know about all the different markets, but that cradle is sold also from 'KIDIGI', labeled with that name also on the front. I have it since 3 weeks and it has one big flaw, if someone cares: it does NOT initiate the fast charging AC-mode on the SGS2, so charging an empty phone takes about 4 hours. Since it doesn't 'call' the home- nor the cardock mode and can't short the USB-data lines because of the sync capability, it has to live with the slow charging mode (limited to 400mA).
Not true though: you don't need 2 cables. The cradle takes power from either side, USB or the charger and for the phone alone, never uses more than each can supply alone. Only when you charge the phone AND put in an empty spare, the current from the USB might not be enough. I have it connected to a USB3 port, which delivers much more than 500mA, I don't use the seperate power supply. Of course your phone's only charged as long as the USB is supplying power.
not sure if you can answer this but does the mugen dock work with the mhl cable?
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Funny ... and so new ...
I don't know about all the different markets, but that cradle is sold also from 'KIDIGI', labeled with that name also on the front. I have it since 3 weeks and it has one big flaw, if someone cares: it does NOT initiate the fast charging AC-mode on the SGS2, so charging an empty phone takes about 4 hours. Since it doesn't 'call' the home- nor the cardock mode and can't short the USB-data lines because of the sync capability, it has to live with the slow charging mode (limited to 400mA).
Not true though: you don't need 2 cables. The cradle takes power from either side, USB or the charger and for the phone alone, never uses more than each can supply alone. Only when you charge the phone AND put in an empty spare, the current from the USB might not be enough. I have it connected to a USB3 port, which delivers much more than 500mA, I don't use the seperate power supply. Of course your phone's only charged as long as the USB is supplying power.
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Funny ... and so new ...
I don't know about all the different markets, but that cradle is sold also from 'KIDIGI', labeled with that name also on the front. I have it since 3 weeks and it has one big flaw, if someone cares: it does NOT initiate the fast charging AC-mode on the SGS2, so charging an empty phone takes about 4 hours. Since it doesn't 'call' the home- nor the cardock mode and can't short the USB-data lines because of the sync capability, it has to live with the slow charging mode (limited to 400mA).
Not true though: you don't need 2 cables. The cradle takes power from either side, USB or the charger and for the phone alone, never uses more than each can supply alone. Only when you charge the phone AND put in an empty spare, the current from the USB might not be enough. I have it connected to a USB3 port, which delivers much more than 500mA, I don't use the seperate power supply. Of course your phone's only charged as long as the USB is supplying power.
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That's some useful information right there. I always had both of the cables connected. On the website i bought it, it also said "KIDIGI" on the front. But the one I received didn't have that logo. Looks identical though.
Also, I'm using tasker to open Clock or Bedside when usb is plugged in. Works well enough for me.
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not sure if you can answer this but does the mugen dock work with the mhl cable?
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Nope
Also to note.
The genuine Samsung cradle has an 'opening' where the rear speaker of the phone is, so the ring/notifications should be quite loud.
I have a cheaper dock, no opening, and the sound is muffled.
OK if I am in the same room, but if in the next room I cant hear the phone ring.
Will be going for genuine (even tho I have one of the Mugen's in the post.
(offtopic) What launcher/clock are you using? It looks awesome
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(offtopic) What launcher/clock are you using? It looks awesome
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Stock samsung clock app XD
These won't work with the otterbox case?
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These won't work with the otterbox case?
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They dont fit with any cases as far as I'm aware.
What happened with the picture?
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I bought this kit from e-bay and just got it in today, so have been trying it out on my drive from home <-> work.
The problem is, the car charger they supplied doesn't seem to be sufficient to charge the phone or at least keep its battery at a constant state when I'm using it as a GPS + Streaming music. On my drive home, I started at about 50% battery life. An hour or so later, I was down to about 35ish with it plugged in nearly the entire time. So clearly it's not pumping enough juice to the device
I was thinking of buying one of these from monoprice but I wanted to make sure it really would give me enough power. Obviously the power isn't that big of an issue, but I don't want to wait for it to ship only to find out that it doesn't help anyways.
Anyone tried the monoprice one I linked to, or one of the other ones from there? Or can suggest one to buy from elsewhere? Would greatly appreciate it, thank you!
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I should mention, I have a car charger uhh splitter thing...to split the one socket into two (one for an FM transmitter, and one for the phone). Could this be a limiting factor in how much power I'm getting to the phone as well? Or should the single socket have enough power for both devices?
I got a Kensington PowerBolt from Future Shop which claims to be 2.1 amps and I still drained the battery a bit when testing the nav. Possibly not as much as you but there is still a net loss. If the charger is accurate in its power then I presume my car isn't delivering enough power.
Any car charger that supports the ipad should be well above 1.0a. Whether it delivers that is a question I cannot answer.
Im going to test direct power charging while having the nav on to see if this thing can ever charge positive while in nav mode. I wonder if that has ever been done.
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I am not aware of any car charger that is 1amp. What you are looking for is pretty rare
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They are a little more prevalent thanks to the ipads higher power requirements for charging.
Future Shop has a few of them available now if you want. A little expensive though at $30+. I don't see the PowerBolt anymore which is too bad since that was a slim model that barely poked out of the socket.
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I am not aware of any car charger that is 1amp. What you are looking for is pretty rare
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This is completely untrue... did you make this up?
Griffin makes many:
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/1207248/griffin-technology-powerjolt-car-charger-reviews/reviews.htm
Belkin and Kensington make them as well. Many are now 2.1A for the iPad.
But to the OP - a 1amp charger is not going to fix your problem in most cases. You need a cable with the data pins shorted so that the phone thinks it is pulling power from something other then a USB port.
A USB port only supplies 500mA - the phone will draw a max of about 750mA; but only if it thinks it is not attached to a PC. The wall charger shorts the data connection so the phone knows to pull more current.
I purchased a dual port (1A per port) charger at target or walmart, and then a took a USB cable and cut open the cable and shorted the data wires (not red or white - but the other 2). My phone says it is charging on AC power and charging keeps up with GPS.
It is possible that you could buy a car charger with the cable built in and the circuitry set to tell the phone to draw more then the USB 500mA, but I am not sure.
But know this; if the phone does not say "AC Charging" under settings->phone-> about - like it does when the wall charger is in use; then you are only getting 500mA.
I use a 2 amp 12v to usb adapter that is use for my ecig passthrough. Charges with bluetooth, streaming music, and navigation all running but charges slowly. Something like $8 on madvapes.com
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Excellent. I am going to give that a try. I have one of those flat retractable cables so its going to be a pain in the ass to do but its worth it.
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This is completely untrue... did you make this up?
Griffin makes many:
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/1207248/griffin-technology-powerjolt-car-charger-reviews/reviews.htm
Belkin and Kensington make them as well. Many are now 2.1A for the iPad.
But to the OP - a 1amp charger is not going to fix your problem in most cases. You need a cable with the data pins shorted so that the phone thinks it is pulling power from something other then a USB port.
A USB port only supplies 500mA - the phone will draw a max of about 750mA; but only if it thinks it is not attached to a PC. The wall charger shorts the data connection so the phone knows to pull more current.
I purchased a dual port (1A per port) charger at target or walmart, and then a took a USB cable and cut open the cable and shorted the data wires (not red or white - but the other 2). My phone says it is charging on AC power and charging keeps up with GPS.
It is possible that you could buy a car charger with the cable built in and the circuitry set to tell the phone to draw more then the USB 500mA, but I am not sure.
But know this; if the phone does not say "AC Charging" under settings->phone-> about - like it does when the wall charger is in use; then you are only getting 500mA.
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Oooo that's interesting, didn't know that. So perhaps the issue could be that my cable is not supplying enough power. Are there instructions somewhere detailing how to short the cable?
lastdeadmouse said:
I use a 2 amp 12v to usb adapter that is use for my ecig passthrough. Charges with bluetooth, streaming music, and navigation all running but charges slowly. Something like $8 on madvapes.com
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Do you mean this? Isn't 2 amps too much though?
Didn't make it up - just havent looked in the last 6 months. Ur right they are pretty common now.
Might invest in one
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Oooo that's interesting, didn't know that. So perhaps the issue could be that my cable is not supplying enough power. Are there instructions somewhere detailing how to short the cable?
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You're going to need to strip a cable so so that you can get to the individual wires for each pin. You want to short pins 2 and 3 together which are Data- and Data+. Normally that is WHITE and GREEN
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Once you do that, you'll have a charge only cable.
Here's the detailed directions:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=46449
I think the shorted data pins are necessary, but 2 amps wouldn't be too much. Li-ion batts love fast short charges.
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Are you saying that the phone will only draw a max of 750mAmps and so anything greater wont provide utility?
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You're going to need to strip a cable so so that you can get to the individual wires for each pin........
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Awesome! I'll try this out and see if it works, thank you
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I think the shorted data pins are necessary, but 2 amps wouldn't be too much. Li-ion batts love fast short charges.
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I thought there might be a limit on how much current you can provide at any one time.
On the original subject: I've started using a different car charger, and now have it plugged directly into the socket in my car. This results in it showing up as being charged by AC power in the settings -> phone status. However, it still loses power over time instead of keeping at the same charge or (ideally) charging the phone slowly.
I'm going to see if I can get my hands on that 2A charger and modify a cable, and see what happens then.
If anyone would like to see if the same thing happens to them, the main applications I have running are:
Google Navigation
TuneIn Radio (streaming from one of the DI.FM stations, and outputting audio to the headphone jack to my car)
I have 3g and GPS on, wifi off, brightness set to auto (have also tried with it set to the lowest it goes and the highest it goes, doesn't seem to make a substantial difference. Or even if it does, there is still a net loss in battery charge.)
It's on stock rogers rom, rooted, with no lag fix. And uhhh, that's all I can think of that would be relevant.
I've got an New Trent IMP1000, which is an 11.1Ah battery pack. It can output a max of 1A, but the phone doesn't see it as an AC charger, so it only draws .5A. If I short out the two pins so that it draws more power, how will the battery life of the battery pack be? Meaning how many phone charges will I get out of it? Will it be shorter, longer, or not have an impact?
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I've got an New Trent IMP1000, which is an 11.1Ah battery pack. It can output a max of 1A, but the phone doesn't see it as an AC charger, so it only draws .5A. If I short out the two pins so that it draws more power, how will the battery life of the battery pack be? Meaning how many phone charges will I get out of it? Will it be shorter, longer, or not have an impact?
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You should still get the same number of "phone charges" out from the pack...they'll just be quicker charges afaik. i.e. if the pack took 4 hours to do a full phone charge before, it may only take 2 hours now. The same amount of power is used up each time though.
any progress?
Can anyone recommend a car charger that is cheap and charges the unit like its on AC power? Some of the cheaper ones I've purchased in the past charged my phone like it was on usb power.
TIA!
Just open up one of your cheap chargers and short the middle two pins of the USB jack. A drop of solder worked on mine. There are only four pins, so it should be easy to follow and find a place on the circuit board to do it.
Once you get it done, plug in the phone and it will show that it's charging on AC, which means it's pulling 1 amp.
Plenty different ones available, but I use this one. There are cheaper ones, but this one is a quality build that charges at 1 full amp! Motorola brand for around $6 including shipping.
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i've had android phones since year one. i've always bought my accessories from cellphoneshop.net and never had a problem
Dude, go to wallymart or somewhere and get an AC converter. I bought one with 2 AC outlets and 1 USB for fairly cheap at wallymart. You wont regret it. It charges my laptop, phone, and gf's phone just fine.
Monoprice has a 1a usb charger for $1.33. I was looking at it yesterday but don't have the link handy at the moment. They're also the best place to buy usb cables too.
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Plenty different ones available, but I use this one. There are cheaper ones, but this one is a quality build that charges at 1 full amp! Motorola brand for around $6 including shipping.
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+1 I have this Motorola charger and it's great. There was even a whole thread full of people repping it a few forum pages back
$1.40 cheaper, $5.07 right now and Prime shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi..._1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1323803924&sr=1-2
Thanks for the original link!
The best car chargers I've found are the Palm chargers for the Pre. For some reason they seem to work much better than any other car charger that I have used. You just need to make sure you get model number 3453WW, because there is also an older model that looks the same but doesn't provide the full 1A charge.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Palm-OEM-Ve...386850?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2eb9e680e2
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Damn. I was wondering WHY in the world this phone took SO STINKING LONG to charge. I mean OVER NIGHT and still not quite done sometimes (extended battery)
Gonna stalk me some good chargers
so instead of starting my own thread.. thought id bump this up...
any new chargers out there.. for car... can be either the usb one (as i have the cig lighter to usb plug... )..or cig lighter..
just feeling out there if anything has changed..
we went on a LONG drive.. 376miles.. and using gps and my phone in my infuse dock.. it was charging.. but draining more than charging... by 1/2 way it was below 50%.... so the road i needed to take was super long so just turned phone off for a while...
was using the charger from my wifes incognito so i figured maybe that car charger didnt have enough A to it.. so bought a new charger from walmart.. and it didnt do any better...
thanks guys...
p.s. on my way home from work (1hr drive) im going to plug straight into my phone instead of the infuse dock and run the gps and see if it charges any different...
Even if the car charger says it can put out 2A the phone will only draw 500mah unless the two inner pins are shorted. Samsung does their chargers this way to identify to the phone that its plugged into a wall charger instead of a computer. (computers are only rated for 500mah on the USB port, although some can go higher)
You could open up the charger and short the pins, or if the charger is the kind where you plug your own cord in you can modify the cord itself. I have a "charging only cord" for when the phone needs a fast boost.
R1ptide said:
Even if the car charger says it can put out 2A the phone will only draw 500mah unless the two inner pins are shorted. Samsung does their chargers this way to identify to the phone that its plugged into a wall charger instead of a computer. (computers are only rated for 500mah on the USB port, although some can go higher)
You could open up the charger and short the pins, or if the charger is the kind where you plug your own cord in you can modify the cord itself. I have a "charging only cord" for when the phone needs a fast boost.
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How do I short these two pins? Any thing with pics?
Still using my Palm Pre car chargers. Had them since the Pre days back in 2009 and they still work great. Buy.com has them for $6.95 with free shipping.
http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=210687470&ic=1
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How do I short these two pins? Any thing with pics?
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drop of soder in between them, sorry I don't have pics because I do the cord
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Plenty different ones available, but I use this one. There are cheaper ones, but this one is a quality build that charges at 1 full amp! Motorola brand for around $6 including shipping.
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i use same charger. it is call motorolla rapid charger .
Hey, as the only verified genius here I wanted to share a great and cheap way to charge your phone. As i understand it you want the speed and current of AC out of your car's 12 volt dc system. They currently make something that works with ALL phone models. It is called an inverter. You just plug your stock phone charger into it. It will work fine for your phone but it wouldnt be wise to try use this it watch a 42" plasma tv. Here is one for 6 bucks that plugs in your lighter socket.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003C2YE8M/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
By the way, I can't endorse this product. I hope you get the general idea. As always you get what you pay for. Read the reviews and look for the inverter that you think would work best for you.
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drop of soder in between them, sorry I don't have pics because I do the cord
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I just want to make sure I'm not going to blow up when I do this.
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Can anyone recommend a car charger that is cheap and charges the unit like its on AC power? Some of the cheaper ones I've purchased in the past charged my phone like it was on usb power.
TIA!
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I would recommend getting the AC/usb adapter for an iphone or ipad, because they tend to run on a higher voltage (5v) than many cheap AC/usb adapters you can probably find off-brand one pretty cheap all over. If anything just make sure your adapter runs on about 5v. I just recommened iphone ones because there are more accessory manufacturers for i-products and you can generally find a wider selection of what you are looking for regarding this topic. I would check walmart first if money is an issue.
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Just open up one of your cheap chargers and short the middle two pins of the USB jack. A drop of solder worked on mine. There are only four pins, so it should be easy to follow and find a place on the circuit board to do it.
Once you get it done, plug in the phone and it will show that it's charging on AC, which means it's pulling 1 amp.
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The 1 amp charger i got from the dollar store already had this in place. I cant say I would have recommended anyone to get one from the dollar store. Ive checked out the components on this one its not too bad.
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Hey, as the only verified genius here I wanted to share a great and cheap way to charge your phone. As i understand it you want the speed and current of AC out of your car's 12 volt dc system. They currently make something that works with ALL phone models. It is called an inverter. You just plug your stock phone charger into it. It will work fine for your phone but it wouldnt be wise to try use this it watch a 42" plasma tv. Here is one for 6 bucks that plugs in your lighter socket.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003C2YE8M/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
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Note that most cheap inverters use a modified sine wave to gain efficiencies over 80%. Most phone chargers will work okay you might get a little buzzing. But you will often run into chargers, power supplies etc that will only operate properly on a pure sine wave inverter.
New to the Nexus, recently purchased from the Play store. On my commute I generally am running Waze (or google navigation) and Audible with screen on auto brightness. With these running I get a slow drain. With these running on my old iPhone 4s, I would get a slow charge (unless it got hot, then it drained). I am using the same charger (capable of enough power to charge a iPad) I guess I am worried about long trips, don't want to show up with an almost dead phone...
I did flash jelly bean last night, still a slow drain this morning on the way in.
Is this just the nature of the phone?
EDIT; disregard, found a prior thread...delete function does not seem to work??
$5 with Prime
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...41945128&sr=8-1&keywords=motorola+car+charger
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$5 with Prime
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...41945128&sr=8-1&keywords=motorola+car+charger
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the reason your nexus is still draining with your car charger is that it's only recognized as a 500mah usb, look at charging state in the settings and it will say USB. you can either mod a micro usb wire or the car charger buy connecting the two middle D pins. with this mod your nexus will recognize as AC charger that you can see in the settings.
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i have the 5 dollar moto charger and it does really charge at 700mah, enough to charge while using maps, but the blue led is super bright and covers the entire circle. its very annoying at least for me to have a light that bright at night.
im using this one now, its an official motorola rapid charger that came with my Atrix's car mount. it charges at the same rate with 2 usb slots. http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Rapi...42088485&sr=1-4&keywords=motorola+car+charger
Another +1 for Motorola charger, only charger I have found that keeps charging my nexus while using navigation
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I also use the Motorola charger, works great.
Out of curiosity, would there be any way to modify a USB port on the computer to induce the faster charging of an AC port? Is there an adapter for that?
I know there are kernels that allow for "fast charging,"but I don't know that there are any working with 4.1.1 yet
ktownhero said:
$5 with Prime
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...41945128&sr=8-1&keywords=motorola+car+charger
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high recommend especially for the price. i almost always use the GPS while driving and this thing will charge it most defiantly while in use.
neotekz said:
the reason your nexus is still draining with your car charger is that it's only recognized as a 500mah usb, look at charging state in the settings and it will say USB. you can either mod a micro usb wire or the car charger buy connecting the two middle D pins. with this mod your nexus will recognize as AC charger that you can see in the settings.
i have the 5 dollar moto charger and it does really charge at 700mah, enough to charge while using maps, but the blue led is super bright and covers the entire circle. its very annoying at least for me to have a light that bright at night.
im using this one now, its an official motorola rapid charger that came with my Atrix's car mount. it charges at the same rate with 2 usb slots. http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Rapi...42088485&sr=1-4&keywords=motorola+car+charger
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You saying just short the two middle pins together?
Edit; or better yet, is there a standard color code to the wiring? Will open the cable and tie them together in the middle... guess I could ohm them out as well
alias3800 said:
Out of curiosity, would there be any way to modify a USB port on the computer to induce the faster charging of an AC port? Is there an adapter for that?
I know there are kernels that allow for "fast charging,"but I don't know that there are any working with 4.1.1 yet
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USB 2.0 ports are only designed to output 500mA. If you value your ports I wouldn't.
It is alway important to notice that, no charger will be able to keep the battery level or at least charge it a little bit if temperature is high and phone is hot... This is just the way Li Ion batteries are, their efficiency decreases exponentially when temperature is higher... So, sometimes charger is not the one to blame, but, the climate/sun shinning over the phone + screen on + 3G/4G + GPS = a phone that is smoking hot and a battery working in adverse conditions...
They're work ports so I wouldn't mind too much.
The truth is I don't really mind, because it does charge the phone, regardless of what I do. However, it does so slowly, and I was used to the fast charging of the iPhone. However, I've also +1 the Motorola charger in the car, it's a lifesaver. My battery never dies down in the car.
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videian said:
You saying just short the two middle pins together?
Edit; or better yet, is there a standard color code to the wiring? Will open the cable and tie them together in the middle... guess I could ohm them out as well
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i've never modded my wires so im not sure if they are color coded. for the chargers though i didnt even use any solder just open up the casing and i just bent the two D pins on the usb adapter that were soldered to the board so that they touch. but yah thats the basic idea just connect those two lines somehow and your phone will recognize the charger as AC.
I have the motorola charger. The other day, I was getting a slow drain while using navigation. I confirmed the phone said it was charging (ac). I'm running JB. Anyone else with JB see a slow drain while using navigation with the motorola charger?
nomisunrider said:
I have the motorola charger. The other day, I was getting a slow drain while using navigation. I confirmed the phone said it was charging (ac). I'm running JB. Anyone else with JB see a slow drain while using navigation with the motorola charger?
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Working just fine for me, but it is a little bit cold in Brazil (about 58F, the higher the temperature, higher the battery temperature and higher the chances that battery efficiency is down the drain and/or phone just stop charging battery to avoid battery hitting dangerous temperature thresholds where it starts to degrade permanently and if temperature keep increasing, it might even explode).
alias3800 said:
Out of curiosity, would there be any way to modify a USB port on the computer to induce the faster charging of an AC port? Is there an adapter for that?
I know there are kernels that allow for "fast charging,"but I don't know that there are any working with 4.1.1 yet
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I did a Palm Pre wireless charging mod on my nexus and HAVE to use a kernel with fast charge settings to get AC. Regardless of cables/chargers/whatever. Most kernels support it, and most popular kernels are running good on JB. My flavor is Trinity
nomisunrider said:
I have the motorola charger. The other day, I was getting a slow drain while using navigation. I confirmed the phone said it was charging (ac). I'm running JB. Anyone else with JB see a slow drain while using navigation with the motorola charger?
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After reviewing the pictures on amazon uploaded by users, I've found I have the fake version. Blah
Interesting thanks for all the info about USB charging. Does the pogo car dock charge as AC or USB? My real question is will I experience battery drain in regular conditions (the phone isn't on fire so the battery is still relatively efficient) running nav + music + random?
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nomisunrider said:
After reviewing the pictures on amazon uploaded by users, I've found I have the fake version. Blah
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Fake version???
fortesquieu said:
Fake version???
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Read the reviews and look at the pictures at amazon.
Anyone know of any? I'd like to be able to use the sat nav with at least the same amount of battery after rather than considerably less even when plugged in
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Anyone know of any? I'd like to be able to use the sat nav with at least the same amount of battery after rather than considerably less even when plugged in
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This is the one I use in my car. Make sure you have a good USB cable of course. Anker 18W Dual Port Car Charger @ $7.99.
I needed it for the same thing you do. I use navigation a lot, and stream music as well. It charges at the same rate as the stock Nexus 5 wall adapter/cable. It is still able to slowly charge the phone while using navigation/streaming.
Here is the newer updated 24W car charger for $12.99. It no longer has a dedicated Apple/Android port, but has power management/device detection. So just plug it in to either port and it should quick charge.
Ben36 said:
Anyone know of any? I'd like to be able to use the sat nav with at least the same amount of battery after rather than considerably less even when plugged in
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I use the Owl QI Charger. I have a slightly older model, but the company is awesome. The first version the phone would still drain. Without me even saying a word, the company contacted me and sent me a new faceplate so the phone is closer the the QI unit and now the phone charges while using google maps and playing podcasts over bluetooth.
Next the phone was doing ghost touching. The company sent me out a brand new charger at no charge and the problem was resolved.
I admit the QI charges slower than pluging in directly, but the phone does indeed charge and is incredibly convenient not having to manually attach a cable.
Here is their site. .Ships form Korea.
http://www.owllus.com/
Just got my Anker IQ car charger... Combined with the moto cables i hit 1000ma charging.
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Go on ebay and search for "scosche revolt c2" I found this after looking for so many different chargers and this finally matched what a wanted, 2.1amp from each port and slim profile.
It's $9.99 from ebay and usually sells for like $20+ at besbuy/amazon
What about a decent cable that can handle a good 1.5 amps too?
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Ooh look at this - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=436834887&pf_rd_i=468294
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I am told the Air-Dock will meet your needs, charger and cable both. I have one on order but cannot personally confirm their claims yet as I have not received it. Check out the Air-Dock post here at xda for people who have actually used it.
Ben36 said:
Ooh look at this - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=436834887&pf_rd_i=468294
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The included micro-usb is moderately large and while it would fit in the Google "bumper" case, it would flex it quite a bit too. So if you already have problems with some cables fitting your case, that one might not be for you.
*speaking from experience with their old model, not sure about the PowerIQ version, but it looks similar.
kjjjjshab said:
Just got my Anker IQ car charger... Combined with the moto cables i hit 1000ma charging.
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Got one too, along with the 40w wall charger in the past. Power IQ is interesting. It seems to max out at 1000ma on the Nexus 5 even though the chargers are capable of more.
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The only problem with qi charging and sat nav together is mega heat build up. Which I don't want
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I have some short duration data to share... with music (on device) playing and gps active (and screen on the entire time), my battery monitor recorded a drain of about -800mA. When I plugged it in to the Anker it went positive, but jumped around quite a bit: 409, 701, 611, 344, 451, 292 mA. So that got it from 77% charge to 82% in about 10 minutes. My battery temp monitor only comes on at 40^ C and it did not, so heat was not an issue.
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The only problem with qi charging and sat nav together is mega heat build up. Which I don't want
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+1
Ben36 said:
Anyone know of any? I'd like to be able to use the sat nav with at least the same amount of battery after rather than considerably less even when plugged in
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I thought I was the only one with this problem. Rather bothersome especially driving from Stl to Florida even though eventually it is a straight shot down. playing music, gps, everything = no bueno
mistahseller said:
I thought I was the only one with this problem. Rather bothersome especially driving from Stl to Florida even though eventually it is a straight shot down. playing music, gps, everything = no bueno
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I've ordered the one in the link i posted as it was only £7 gbp so for that price worth a try. I'll report when I get it
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mmmmBACON said:
This is the one I use in my car. Make sure you have a good USB cable of course. Anker 18W Dual Port Car Charger @ $7.99.
I needed it for the same thing you do. I use navigation a lot, and stream music as well. It charges at the same rate as the stock Nexus 5 wall adapter/cable. It is still able to slowly charge the phone while using navigation/streaming.
Here is the newer updated 24W car charger for $12.99. It no longer has a dedicated Apple/Android port, but has power management/device detection. So just plug it in to either port and it should quick charge.
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I was interested in getting this since I needed a really good and fast car charger but the anker 24w is more than double in price on amazon.ca. I don't think I want to drop 30 bones on a car charger.
Are there any other reliable car charger brands?
Kendaihou said:
I was interested in getting this since I needed a really good and fast car charger but the anker 24w is more than double in price on amazon.ca. I don't think I want to drop 30 bones on a car charger.
Are there any other reliable car charger brands?
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Yeah I had the same problem with the 18w at the time. I don't know why they price gouge so badly... I mean really, almost every major city in Canada is basically near the border with the US, doubling the price is ridiculous.
Luckily there was a 30% coupon I could apply at the time, so the price was only a few dollars more, but still...
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Yeah I had the same problem with the 18w at the time. I don't know why they price gouge so badly... I mean really, almost every major city in Canada is basically near the border with the US, doubling the price is ridiculous.
Luckily there was a 30% coupon I could apply at the time, so the price was only a few dollars more, but still...
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I can't count the number of times I have been gouged by amazon.ca. The prices are always doubled or tripled. I usually just check amazon.com first if I ever want to buy anything. I'll check local places and Canada Computers (they usually great prices) see if they have anything similar to the anker.
Right the one I linked to in post #7 came today, so stuck current widget on and put it in my van - happy me -
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Right the one I linked to in post #7 came today, so stuck current widget on and put it in my van - happy me -
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Hi Ben, are you using the charger's built in USB cable to get that charging rate or a different (OEM?) one?
Thanks
I don't plan on opening the flaps unless I really need too. These can solve charging port flap wear, I ordered 2 today.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JEN5S6A?pc_redir=1411972803&robot_redir=1
I also ordered one of these last night, 15 bucks kinda sucks for an adapter but I think the convenience will be worth it, plus I hear it charges faster then micro usb can.
There are a ton of really cheap ones available too but I have heard good things about this Magnector company.
Will post more info once I receive it.
I purchased this magnetic charging cable, received today.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221550091355
So far so good works charging from PC and in car. I haven't charged from a low charge yet, hopefully will be ok. Magnet is pretty good, stronger thand Sony Magnetic Charging Dock.. Works with case on which is what I really was after, not sure if thw magnetor will conect with case attached?
I'd be interested to know how it works when you have th phone in a car mount, my DEFF adaptor doesn't stay on when the phone is landscape.
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I'd be interested to know how it works when you have th phone in a car mount, my DEFF adaptor doesn't stay on when the phone is landscape.
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My magnetic charging cable stays on the phone, I mount it using my old Brodit iPhone Adjustable Passive mount in Landscape, the Magnetic connector is on the underneath.
I've just ordered the same thing you have, I know my Terrapin case fits magnetic charging ok, maybe this one will stay on my phone (also landscape & port underneath)
I've also bought the official Sony cable too, surely at least 1 of the 3 will work ok. Because of the button placements I have to mount the phone on the top end 1/4, which does leave the magnetic port free, I doubt my mount would work at the other end (if I wanted to use USB charging) as the buttons would be in the mount and pressed on.
I use the Kenu Airframe mount.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kenu-Airframe-Portable-Car-Mount-Black/dp/B00D901B4W/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_img_7
techguyone said:
I've just ordered the same thing you have, I know my Terrapin case fits magnetic charging ok, maybe this one will stay on my phone (also landscape & port underneath)
I've also bought the official Sony cable too, surely at least 1 of the 3 will work ok. Because of the button placements I have to mount the phone on the top end 1/4, which does leave the magnetic port free, I doubt my mount would work at the other end (if I wanted to use USB charging) as the buttons would be in the mount and pressed on.
I use the Kenu Airframe mount.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kenu-Airframe-Portable-Car-Mount-Black/dp/B00D901B4W/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_img_7
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If I get time tomorrow I'll post some photos of my car setup, I think this :- http://www.brodit.com/product.html?id=512597&pn=prod&brand=Sony&model=Xperia Z1 Compact
would be the perfect setup thats if the Z1 Compact Brodit Active holder works or if not maybe in future for the Z3C?
NickR said:
I purchased this magnetic charging cable, received today.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221550091355
So far so good works charging from PC and in car. I haven't charged from a low charge yet, hopefully will be ok. Magnet is pretty good, stronger thand Sony Magnetic Charging Dock.. Works with case on which is what I really was after, not sure if thw magnetor will conect with case attached?
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Was the PC USB port a normal USB port or a high powered one? Sony says that their docks cannot charge from PC, only from wall outlet. I'm trying to figure out what the real requirement is, whether the phone needs a minimum mA or somehow recognizes a PC in the other end.
Unless you need data connectivity, you're always better off charging from a wall socket, it always takes way longer from a computer usb port.
Of course. But in a lot of scenarios a wall outlet is not available.
quack3d said:
Was the PC USB port a normal USB port or a high powered one? Sony says that their docks cannot charge from PC, only from wall outlet. I'm trying to figure out what the real requirement is, whether the phone needs a minimum mA or somehow recognizes a PC in the other end.
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Not sure if PC USB is a high power port, it's just a desktop pc with a combination of USB 2.0 and 3.0 ports, as far as charging in car I use the 1amp port on this http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00KY3KK3U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It doesn't charge as fast as the mains charger but will charge slowly even with tomtom and google Nav working simultaneously.
I've ordered a couple more different mag option, 1 adapter which has a micro USB port and another cable that doesn't have the led. I want the adapter so the cable drops down when phone is in landscape.
NickR said:
I purchased this magnetic charging cable, received today.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221550091355
So far so good works charging from PC and in car. I haven't charged from a low charge yet, hopefully will be ok. Magnet is pretty good, stronger thand Sony Magnetic Charging Dock.. Works with case on which is what I really was after, not sure if thw magnetor will conect with case attached?
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Any updates after a few days of use? Does it seem fairly well constructed, like it should hold up over time? No issues with charging? If you have time, pictures or a video review would be awesome! Which case are you using it with?
rv1458 said:
Any updates after a few days of use? Does it seem fairly well constructed, like it should hold up over time? No issues with charging? If you have time, pictures or a video review would be awesome! Which case are you using it with?
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I sort of have updated in my previous comment, I'll try and get some photos or short vid soon. It's just a cheap cable which as far as I can tell it's fairly good quality. The main thing it's got a strong magnet, the contact point is deep enough to slot through the case and make contact and it charges reliably so far.
Here's a small vid and some photos:-
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This is a Brodit Proclip for my Volvo V60 and a Brodit iPhone Mount which has adjustable sides so works with most phones.
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http://youtu.be/1tQ-GK4l85c
techguyone said:
I'd be interested to know how it works when you have th phone in a car mount, my DEFF adaptor doesn't stay on when the phone is landscape.
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Same, a stiff breeze will knock my DEFF adapter off.
That's good, because its a one piece cable, there's no surplus material like you get with a DEFF or other adaptor tip that bolts onto the end of a micro USB lead, and also the cable looks thin enough that it won't pull the magnet loose by being too stiff (another thing that happens with standard USB leads) hopefully mine will arrive in a few days & i'll be able to report back the same, although with my Kenu Airframe mount I have the phone held on the other end of the phone to NickRs or it presses on the vol & camera buttons.
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Of course. But in a lot of scenarios a wall outlet is not available.
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The only thing about these magnetic chargers is that they don't really sit on the phone very well. I mean they are ok...but relatively easy to knock off.
I bought the cheap Chinese ones off eBay for $2-3 and they definitely work, but are a ***** to line up with the charging pins. It also charges slightly slower than the micro USB, I'd say about 30 mins slower.
do we need to get ones made for the z3c or will any of the z1, z2, etc. ones work?
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do we need to get ones made for the z3c or will any of the z1, z2, etc. ones work?
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I bought this knock off from Ebay and it works on my z3c. Not a smooth line up (takes an extra milisecond of my time) like Boojay said above, but once lined up, it stays and functions fine.
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Bought this third party dock and it's working fine. I ride my Z3c naked so can't comment on how it'll fit with cases..
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Bought this third party dock and it's working fine. I ride my Z3c naked so can't comment on how it'll fit with cases..
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Bought this third party dock and it's working fine. I ride my Z3c naked so can't comment on how it'll fit with cases..