IDEA: Make the alarm works with phone off - Desire General

I found this app https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.nomoarpowah
Actually works only for some samsung devices, but the idea is good
Infact the app is able to switch on the phone when the alarms is going to be activated, even if the phone is completely turned off, in order to make it ring..The unique requirements is that the phone is under charging and is rooted of course
I think the same can be applied to our desire as well, because when the charger is connected, the kernel should be loaded, correct me if im wrong
So this mean that we (but not me ) can modify the kernel in order to do a simple thing: it have to check the current time in order to reboot the phone when the time is going to be near to the time set by the stock alarm app (the alarm time is of course written somewhere on the /data partition)
Anyone can say if this can be done through some changes to the kernel?
I know that the solution is to leave the phone on or in airplane mode, but this could be a nice feature for our "old" desire, at least when its charging; but i think that everyone charge it on night and have the alarm set for the morning
Thanks in advance and sorry for my english

Bump! No one have an idea if this can be done?? And no one like this idea?

I thought this already worked.
I was sure my alarm went off on a plane before when the phone was off...

Lothaen said:
I thought this already worked.
I was sure my alarm went off on a plane before when the phone was off...
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lol, impossible

Lothaen said:
I thought this already worked.
I was sure my alarm went off on a plane before when the phone was off...
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Absolutely not...If ur phone is completely turned off, the phone will remain off forever (even if the alarm is set) untill u turn it on obviuosly

I think I remember my old Samsung dumb phone done that anyway.. if the phone was off the alarm would still sound... maybe it is a Samsung feature? Does the desire have a charging screen when the phone is off?
Edit: desire screen doesn't stay on, Samsung one does (my friends sgs does anyway). Only led on when charging desire...
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My SE-P1i (Symbian UIQ 3.0) was working in that way. This is an OS issue as well.
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mattmanwrx said:
Edit: desire screen doesn't stay on, Samsung one does (my friends sgs does anyway). Only led on when charging desire...
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That's correct, but the led color is controlled by the kernel..When chargin is amber, when full charge is green, this mean we can implemnt some logics on the kernel as well..For example we can implement in the kernel something like reboot (turn on) the phone when the alarm is going to ring (reading the setting from the phone file system)

andQlimax said:
That's correct, but the led color is controlled by the kernel..When chargin is amber, when full charge is green, this mean we can implemnt some logics on the kernel as well..For example we can implement in the kernel something like reboot (turn on) the phone when the alarm is going to ring (reading the setting from the phone file system)
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Seems logical and and theoretically would work... however, I know my phone takes a long time to boot... others more, others less, so how long would you be starting the phone before alarm? 15 minutes?
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mattmanwrx said:
Seems logical and and theoretically would work... however, I know my phone takes a long time to boot... others more, others less, so how long would you be starting the phone before alarm? 15 minutes?
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Well, my phone is about standard for the boot time, is about 1 minute (even on stock sense, custom sense roms, aosp roms)..5 minutes before the alarm is enough..But I don't think this is a big problem, even 15 minutes before, just to be sure, it's ok..We just need someone that is able to do the necessary kernel changes (if this is possible; seems strange that no one never implemented this kind of logics when the phone is off under charging)

andQlimax said:
I don't like hibernation mode as is the same as put the phone in airplane mode, the phone remain still on
my idea is to make the phone ring with the phone completely turned off, and seems possible if the phone is on charging (even if off)
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Quoted from manu kernel thread...
So the actual idea is to make the phone ring.so you don't miss a call? Would the phone not need to be "on" constantly... and if so, why not just leave it on charge overnight? That's what I do?
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I mean make the alarm clock ring...

andQlimax said:
I mean make the alarm clock ring...
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I was gonna say just leave it on... but yea, boot the phone 5-10 mins (maybe users choice?) before the alarm sounds... I do like it...
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It´s interesting to think about this and see if it´s technically possible.
But I don´t get the motivation behind it
Why turn the phone completely off if it´s supposed to hang on the cable anyway? To save the 5-20 mA it uses when in airplane-mode?

germanhoss said:
It´s interesting to think about this and see if it´s technically possible.
But I don´t get the motivation behind it
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The motivation is exactly that, see if it is technically possible..I agree that is not a great advantage having that feature..

Would be nice I think, even nicer if it worked without having it charging.

Nionor said:
Would be nice I think, even nicer if it worked without having it charging.
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But the charging is what is keeping the kernel awake... otherwise you nay as have the phone on..
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Nionor said:
Would be nice I think, even nicer if it worked without having it charging.
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That actually could work only if the hardware will support a sort of "wake up from power off" functionality (our desire hardware support it???)..Like pc and some nokia have..

Alarm and Calendar event reminders goes off after reboot or restart!
I have captivate that runs on Firefly froyo ROM. I have an alarm set in my phone that is supposed to sound every morning. But when I reboot my phone everytime for replacing the spare battery, the alarm is not re activated. In simple works, alarm scheduled to sound everyday does not reactivate itself after reboot. Have to open the alarm, disable it and again enable to reactivate it.
Any solution for this. Also any app that solves the problem? Same thing happens with calendar reminder events. After reboot, the calendar reminder events do not work. HAve to go to the calendar app for it to activate. Any alternate apps for the problem?

I think it must be possible what did my previous phone Nokia 6220 classic had that my newer fella doesn't have it, and that phone could do it. Actually, it turned on a little sooner to ring exactly at the time you've wanted it.
But trust me it isn't that much good you know especially when you don't know there's such a feature. You've turned off your phone and you're sleeping you would kill anyone who dared to wake you up and suddenly a death metal music starts ringing 5:30 in the morning, you got the point :banghead:
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SMS LED Notification

Hey, i was just wonder if this is normal or not but about 5 minutes after receiving a SMS the LED will stop flashing even though i have not turned the screen on yet to check it
is this meant to happen and if so is there a way in which i can change it to continue flashing any amount of time until i check my phone?
Thanks.
I think with the Handcent SMS app you can set 'reminders' to every 5 mins. So it should continually flash till you check it then.
I've not actually tried this but the theory is there!
thanks for the quick reply, but i was hoping there was a way with the default messaging program
Annoyingly, I don't think there is. I'd recommend having a look at Handcent though, it's a cool app.
that's rather annoying, but o well i guess, other then this I've been loving the phone
Try Missed Reminder from the market. Works good on my device.
I asked HTC about this, and it is is true, the LED flashes for 5mins then stops.
I didn't like the Handcent reminder simply because when it restarts the notification, it makes the sound like it's got another message. I just wanted to know I've got something to check rather than hear it go off every 5mins or whatever you set it to.
But this is a personal annoyance. I can see that many wouldn't mind this.
Missed Reminder was another option to definitely try to see if it's for you.
Thanks for the replies guys, I'll give Missed Reminder ago, seems odd that they wouldn't allow for a option to let it flash for longer, is this only for SMS or does it also stop after 5 mins for all LED notifications?
all notifications stop after 5mins. What's the point in having the led?
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ardsar said:
all notifications stop after 5mins. What's the point in having the led?
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Yeah..5mins for sms/missed call...constantly if your battery is low
Are you guys sure that the LED stops blinking after 5 mins? In hTC's there is an option in settings (I forgot where exactly) which will allow you to set different times, 5,10,15 mins and even there is an option for continuous blinking. So please recheck the settings (in sound & notifications maybe) and then confirm it.
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Are you guys sure that the LED stops blinking after 5 mins? In hTC's there is an option in settings (I forgot where exactly) which will allow you to set different times, 5,10,15 mins and even there is an option for continuous blinking. So please recheck the settings (in sound & notifications maybe) and then confirm it.
Thanks.
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That was the case for Windows mobile phones. there is no option in android to set this.
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That is so weird. Isn't there any solution for this?
The Missed Reminder app does the job. You can customise it quite a bit. I just set all notifications to blink the LED forever.
The Missed Reminder app does the job. You can customise it quite a bit. I just set all notifications to blink the LED forever.
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looks good, finally one where it won't go off forever lol
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Raul Duke said:
The Missed Reminder app does the job. You can customise it quite a bit. I just set all notifications to blink the LED forever.
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Tried this app, but doesnt work correctly. Sure it will continue to blink the LED, but the notification sounds do not work correctly - i.e they dont sound on reapeat alarms. Shame as it looked a nice app.
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I have no plans yet to release a special version for 2.x at least not until I’ve got my phone updated to 2.1.

LED Notification flash - Not working?

I haven't fully tested this issue yet mainly because I've only had the phone for a few days... I wanted to check if anyone else had this problem.
Under Settings -> Sound & Display -> Notification Flash
I have all the options ticked.
In theory, whenever I have a missed call or a SMS or email etc, I should be able to tell that I need to check my phone be a little blinking light in the top right corner off the screen. I just came back to my phone and this LED wasn't blinking but when I turned on the phone, there was a missed call and a SMS.
Other times, it seemed to work fine.
Anyone else noticed this problem?
it only flashes for 5 mins and then stops. There is no way to change this without additional apps.
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Oh... How disappointing. Pretty useless imo. Thanks for the info. I wonder if they will fix it. My previous phone, Touch Diamond, had something similar but it never stopped flashing until you looked at your missed calls.
Now that explains things. I tend to look for the led after I've not used the phone for a while. In my pocket or elsewhere. Quite a few times I've seen no flashing but have a notification in the top left. I thought it was another one of those little 'features' we keep finding.
Yeh i discovered this awhile back and it's annoying as hell, i just use a app called Missed Reminder which can be configured to allowed it to keep flashing indefinitely
I was just going to make a post about this. I thought the LED notification wasn't working at all on my Desire, since I've never seen it, but perhaps it had just stopped before I had the chance to catch it, then
ardsar said:
it only flashes for 5 mins and then stops. There is no way to change this without additional apps.
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What apps are you referring to? It would be nice to be able to have the LED flash longer.
I'm guessing this is to save battery time, I don't know how much power a small LED uses but it surely can't help with the already abysmal battery life
I first thought the LED was located behind the optical trackpad, because the trackball on my Hero could light up. I think the LED-notification is pretty dumb since it's almost invisible when it lights up. The lighting trackball was much much better
This is a known issue. I thought that did not happen in Android, but I guess I was wrong.
If the phone work in Windows Mobile, there are a registry key to let assign values to the options, so they are usable.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4846399#post4846399
In Android, I have no clue... maybe my info help in any way.
PMoto
It would be nice to be able to change the flash time from the default 5 minutes, or atleast an option for no time limit.
I know it's to help save battery life, but I'm willing to say that the light flashing will use less battery then the back light coming on everytime I'm away from my phone for more then 5 minutes, from me checking to see if I have new messages, email, or missed phone calls.
Same issue with my recently purchased A40.
No blinking at all despite screen flash notification selected.
Hope someone can help

How can I disable vibration on boot & shutdown?

Hi! As stated in titel, I want to disable vibration on boot and shutdown. Before froyo, it used to vibrate only when starting, now vibrates also in shutdown.
There is a small app called Silent Boot which disables sound on boot even though the phone is not in the silent mode. App that I am looking for is an app similar to it but also has ability to disable vibration.
Additionally, although "haptic feedback" option is deselected, it is still available in the stock calculator.. annoying. I want to use vibration only on incoming calls, nowhere else.
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Vibration on start / shutdown - How to disable?
Is there a solution to do that?
Would also like to know this. Bump.
Me too, no idea why they included the shutdown vibration in the Froyo update. Pointless?
Ehm, just curious ...
What's the problem with vibration during shutdown and boot?
I hate the boot sound MORE because it affect other people ... But, I "fixed" that using Tasker easily (no root required)
Sorted out the boot sound issue thanks to "Silent Boot". Simply, personally, I find vibration much irritating on such. Pointless..
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I understand. personal reason etc. however its not pointless. If the phone takes more than a few seconds to shut down the screen goes blank but the phone is still "shutting down". This happened alot on 2.1. Phone would take 10minutes to shut down. you had to keep turning on screen to see if it was off yet or still 'shuttnig down' The vibrate now gives a positive confirmation the phone is off. not just screen off.
Ok I see the function as well, but it would be better if this was left for user to decide whether or not to use it; as kind of preference.
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Its probably going to be more hassle than its worth disabling it. Though I really can't see why it really is a problem, do you like shutting your phone down a lot? I can't remember the last time I actually turned mine off or even had to restart it
If you root the phone and bake a custom ROM you can get rid of it - the latest MoDaCo ROM has this 'feature'
Personally, I like the boot sound/vibrations
I was considering that there might be a tweak, an app etc. which is not requiring root and/or cooked rom as well (like as Silent Boot) now I see there is no way out.
Yeap, this is a matter of taste...
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Believe it or not the noise of the vibrate has woke the person next to me up more than once. I need it gone.
MapleDouglas said:
Me too, no idea why they included the shutdown vibration in the Froyo update. Pointless?
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Well, afaik, the FroYo update has removed the shutdown-vibration.
The Boot-One is still there though.
shutdown vibrate annoyance
turn on haptic and set the vibration level to zero, unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your point of view) this also disables all vibration alerts.
zakarath1 said:
turn on haptic and set the vibration level to zero, unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your point of view) this also disables all vibration alerts.
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I think he solved it in 16 months?
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I think he solved it in 16 months?
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I'm just baffled at how a 16 month old thread gets revived...and to what purpose??
You coming to OneX or what?

[Q] Display on when plugged in

Hi guys,
I am new to Android, being a long time winmo guy.
I use my phone for music in the car, one thing that annoys me is the display timing out.
In Winmo you could choose the display behaviour based on battery or plugged in. I've searched but can't find anything similiar on the Desire.
Is there anything I have hopefully missed???
Hi,
look for Tasker in the market. With this app u can setup several situation e.g. disable display timeout when plunged in
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jmitr said:
Hi guys,
I am new to Android, being a long time winmo guy.
I use my phone for music in the car, one thing that annoys me is the display timing out.
In Winmo you could choose the display behaviour based on battery or plugged in. I've searched but can't find anything similiar on the Desire.
Is there anything I have hopefully missed???
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go to settings/applications/development, and tick the box that says stay awake then when charging you can manually put your device to sleep when needed
AndroHero said:
go to settings/applications/development, and tick the box that says stay awake then when charging you can manually put your device to sleep when needed
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Darn if that didn't work, and I thought I played with all the available menus!!!!!
Thank you very much,
jmitr said:
Darn if that didn't work, and I thought I played with all the available menus!!!!!
Thank you very much,
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dont worri it took me 5 mins to find it lol i knew the option was there tho it should be in display settings lol

Missing Features ?

Had the phone a few days now and aside from the volume issues which I hope will be solved I have three other issues.
Can someone confirm 100% that there is no FM Radio - I'm 99.9% sure but I've seen threads from other people saying the radio quality is good.
No Self-Timer on the camera - I went to take a photo the other day and went to set the timer so I could be in it and there isn't one.
I can't seem to find anywhere to set the email sync frequency times (i.e. so it doesn't send email notifications in the middle of the night.
I've come from an HTC Desire HD and all of these features were standard so a little annoyed if they're all gone.
Were you running a stock HTC sense ROM?
I assume the camera additions were HTC's camera?
I thought stock Android used push notifications rather than polling and pulling every 5 minutes?? Maybe what you had was another HTC Sense feature?
Everything was standard out of the box, unlocked.
I know the Galaxy S2 has a self timer, also a radio, not sure about the email settings part though. I can set how often on the Nexus to pull from 5 minutes to 1 hour - but can't see any option of muting (off peak mode) it through the night so I don't get woken up every 10 minutes (business emails +100 a day)
I can confirm 100% there IS no FM radio on my Galaxy Nexus
The HTC Sense skin, in the same way that Samsung's TouchWiz does, adds lots of custom functionality on top of standard ASOP Android.
Maybe there are some apps out there to replicate what your Sense stuff used to do?
So to answer your thread title....... they aren't "missing features"...... its because you aren't running a HTC Sense ROM.
zarch1972 said:
The HTC Sense skin, in the same way that Samsung's TouchWiz does, adds lots of custom functionality on top of standard ASOP Android.
Maybe there are some apps out there to replicate what your Sense stuff used to do?
So to answer your thread title....... they aren't "missing features"...... its because you aren't running a HTC Sense ROM.
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I disagree I'd still say they are missing features, If they were present in AOSP there'd be no need for HTC & Samsung et al to add them. Having a timer in the camera app is pretty basic functionality that should really be present as standard.
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I disagree I'd still say they are missing features, If they were present in AOSP there'd be no need for HTC & Samsung et al to add them. Having a timer in the camera app is pretty basic functionality that should really be present as standard.
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i also disagree on your statement,
so now the AOSP camera version has time laps video option, and video effects (change you faces while recording video),
do you then call this missing features for the rest of the phones?
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i also disagree on your statement,
so now the AOSP camera version has time laps video option, and video effects (change you faces while recording video),
do you then call this missing features for the rest of the phones?
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I understand what you're saying but to me a self-timer is a basic function that's found on most phones I've come across - the other effects are nice but in my mind not as essential as a timer.
I disagree with that. YOU look for those features. I currently been through 5 devices in the past few months that don't have your "missing" features. They are missing to YOU, but THEY are not standard features. I'd say only 10% at best of all the phones out there have those features so it's far standard(note: I do not know the exact %, but it has to be less than 20%)
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stiffn said:
I can't seem to find anywhere to set the email sync frequency times (i.e. so it doesn't send email notifications in the middle of the night.
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Android tends doesn't notify in the middle of the night.. I'm not exactly sure how it does it but I sleep right next to a tablet and a phone both of which beep merrily during the day but I never get a peep out of them overnight.
stiffn said:
I can't seem to find anywhere to set the email sync frequency times (i.e. so it doesn't send email notifications in the middle of the night.
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What you're asking for and 'sync frequency' are 2 different things. You're looking for something to silence notifications at night; sync frequency is how often the phone pulls new data down for your accounts.
The name is slipping my mind right now (will update if I find it!), but there are definitely apps in the market that silence the phone for different intervals, such as over night. ROMs like CM7 have this built in as "quiet hours". You can choose to silence notifications but not alarms or phone calls, etc.
Check out Sweet Dreams. Think it'll do what you want.
Could also look at Bedside (Night Clock). It has a "white list" to block some notifications and not others.
The app Tasker is a bit overkill for just this (unless you use for other things too), but it'll do what you're asking.
TonyHoyle said:
Android tends doesn't notify in the middle of the night.. I'm not exactly sure how it does it but I sleep right next to a tablet and a phone both of which beep merrily during the day but I never get a peep out of them overnight.
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That's probably because you are a heavy sleeper mate. Also people send out less emails and texts at night.
Anyway there are certain apps you can use to either change your sound profiles at certain times, or to disable data syncing. Personally I use Juice Defender to turn off data at night when I'm not using the phone. I don't have to set silent mode at night cause I am a heavy sleeper too and phone beeps don't wake me up.
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Tidbits said:
I disagree with that. YOU look for those features. I currently been through 5 devices in the past few months that don't have your "missing" features. They are missing to YOU, but THEY are not standard features. I'd say only 10% at best of all the phones out there have those features so it's far standard(note: I do not know the exact %, but it has to be less than 20%)
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I'd be surprised if only 10% of new camera phones had a self-timer function. It's a bit like saying a flash for the camera shouldn't be standard as they never existed on the first camera phones but you'd sure as heck kick up a stink if a new phone was released without a flash for the camera wouldn't you ? Or how about a car with manual locking instead of central locking. Surely with a phone of this caliber a self-timer isn't exactly a special feature.
TonyHoyle said:
Android tends doesn't notify in the middle of the night.. I'm not exactly sure how it does it but I sleep right next to a tablet and a phone both of which beep merrily during the day but I never get a peep out of them overnight.
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Yeah that's exactly what I'm finding, I'm not receiving emails after a certain time on my phone. I work with a lot of companies in the US and I'm in the UK so I do many late nights and I want to be able to set when emails arrive or don't on my phone, not when they think I should be sleeping or awake otherwise I end up sitting with my phone and laptop both out if I'm expecting an important mail to arrive rather than relaxing in bed with the phone by my side, and even a manual refresh doesn't bring the mails down after a certain time.
stiffn said:
Had the phone a few days now and aside from the volume issues which I hope will be solved I have three other issues.
Can someone confirm 100% that there is no FM Radio - I'm 99.9% sure but I've seen threads from other people saying the radio quality is good.
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I don't have my GN yet, so I can only comment on your first question: I'm pretty sure, if people talk about radio quality, they mean either the quality of mobile signal reception or the sound/speech quality of incoming and outgoing calls. Radio quality most definitely doesn't refer to an actual FM Radio.
So to make a long story short: There's no FM Radio in the GN.
Browser Dimming
I know on thing that I will not miss coming from SGSII is the auto-dimming in the browser.. I have turned off all power-management tools (I think?!) but yet on the SII, anytime I tried using the browser, autodim!
Can anyone with a GN confirm that this "feature" is gone?
thanks!
TonyHoyle said:
Android tends doesn't notify in the middle of the night.. I'm not exactly sure how it does it but I sleep right next to a tablet and a phone both of which beep merrily during the day but I never get a peep out of them overnight.
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There is an overnight mode (sleep hours).
Its not in Gmail its in, the settings under notifications somewhere.
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pjmurphy77 said:
I know on thing that I will not miss coming from SGSII is the auto-dimming in the browser.. I have turned off all power-management tools (I think?!) but yet on the SII, anytime I tried using the browser, autodim!
Can anyone with a GN confirm that this "feature" is gone?
thanks!
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It still dims, but if you go into settings > display, you can change the sleep time to like 10 minutes and it won't dim for ages.
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NatTheCat said:
There is an overnight mode (sleep hours).
Its not in Gmail its in, the settings under notifications somewhere.
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I think that's a Cyanogenmod setting, not stock Android. Not that I can find anyway.
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Thanks for the quick reply.. just to confirm, I'm not referring to the overall system settings of the display but specifically (on Samsungs) the auto-dimming of the browser.

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