Hi,
I have all my music library encoded as eaac+ 48kbps parametric stereo as this allows me to fit my entire music library on my microsd card.
Been using my music collection on my HTC HD2 which i soon replaced with the Desire.
Thing is that after some of the tracks i've been listening to started sounding funny, i've investigated more on the issue to find out that the Android eaac+ encoder seems to be doing quite a bad job...
For example the .aac file i've attached sounds almost perfect on my laptop and HD2 (using the same hi quality Sennheiser headphones) but on the desire the low bass sounds are awful, it's just like someone is hitting on a broken drum.
Could someone please help me confirm this issue? Could you try playing the attached test .aac file on the htc desire and let me know if you encounter the same problem with it sounding awful? (Try also on a laptop with latest winamp to see the difference).
Thanks !
Hi ubik,
All my digital audio files are also eaac+ at 48kbps, but are in .m4a containers, not .aac, but that shouldn't make any difference (By the way aac+ with parametric stereo = eaac+). As I'm about to buy a Desire, your post made me think that maybe the Desire doesn't support eaac+, only aac+. Iphones and ipods only support aac+, so eaac+ files come out in mono and sound rubbish on those devices. HTC's website doesn't confirm if the Desire plays eaac+ files, so I contacted HTC via their website, and they confirmed that the Desire supports these audio formats .wma, .aac, .m4a, .mp3, .mp4 and .wav files And these codecs WAV, WMA, AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, M4A, MP3 and MP4. Therefore if it supports the eaac+ codec, you should get CD quality sound with your eaac+ files at 48kbps. Maybe you should ask HTC about this via their website.
SpaceGooner said:
Hi ubik,
All my digital audio files are also eaac+ at 48kbps, but are in .m4a containers, not .aac, but that shouldn't make any difference (By the way aac+ with parametric stereo = eaac+). As I'm about to buy a Desire, your post made me think that maybe the Desire doesn't support eaac+, only aac+. Iphones and ipods only support aac+, so eaac+ files come out in mono and sound rubbish on those devices. HTC's website doesn't confirm if the Desire plays eaac+ files, so I contacted HTC via their website, and they confirmed that the Desire supports these audio formats .wma, .aac, .m4a, .mp3, .mp4 and .wav files And these codecs WAV, WMA, AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, M4A, MP3 and MP4. Therefore if it supports the eaac+ codec, you should get CD quality sound with your eaac+ files at 48kbps. Maybe you should ask HTC about this via their website.
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That's funny, I contacted HTC support about playing .m4a files and the reply was, and I quote, "You can not play the m4a files by default on your device and you need to search over the Android market for a compatible application with your device to allow you play such files on your device."
I myself haven't been able to playback .m4a files with several music players, including the default HTC one and players downloaded from the market.
Is anyone actually able to play this file type?
SpaceGooner said:
Hi ubik,
All my digital audio files are also eaac+ at 48kbps, but are in .m4a containers, not .aac, but that shouldn't make any difference (By the way aac+ with parametric stereo = eaac+). As I'm about to buy a Desire, your post made me think that maybe the Desire doesn't support eaac+, only aac+. Iphones and ipods only support aac+, so eaac+ files come out in mono and sound rubbish on those devices. HTC's website doesn't confirm if the Desire plays eaac+ files, so I contacted HTC via their website, and they confirmed that the Desire supports these audio formats .wma, .aac, .m4a, .mp3, .mp4 and .wav files And these codecs WAV, WMA, AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, M4A, MP3 and MP4. Therefore if it supports the eaac+ codec, you should get CD quality sound with your eaac+ files at 48kbps. Maybe you should ask HTC about this via their website.
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What i did is dump my eaac+ converted music library as it sounded bad on my Desire and it was really a lot of music that i did not listen to; being a lot of media files, the music player was very sluggish. I reordered my original mp3s and made a selection of music that i do listen.
I admit, this is not the solution to the problem (using mp3s instead of eaac+ and using less files because the player is sluggish) but it is a great phone overall and who knows what the future brings (Android 2.2 Froyo for example).
I'm not impressed with how google has failed to respond my bug report, but it's hard for me to find faults with this phone, after using the HTC HD2 i'm wondering how i could live with winmo's faults all this time
Hey,
I plan to buy a Desire, but this could be a dealbreaker for me:
Does this occur with AAC+ (e.g. HE-AACv1, without Parametric Stereo) as well? My whole music library is in that format!
It would be really great if somebody could confirm the situation. If you don't have access to any AAC+ files of your own, I uploaded one to drop.io/3q2r8b7/asset/desire-heaac-test-zip in MP3, AAC+ (HE-AAC v1) and eAAC+ (HE-AAC v2).
Thanks!
hi,
all three files sound ok on my desire (i can tell very little difference between them)
maybe you should try giving me something with more base sound (this is where i notices the problem)
you gave me symphonic music which has more of the high notes
ubik said:
hi,
all three files sound ok on my desire (i can tell very little difference between them)
maybe you should try giving me something with more base sound (this is where i notices the problem)
you gave me symphonic music which has more of the high notes
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Thank you very much for testing.
I've now uploaded another track with more bass in it: drop.io/3q2r8b7/asset/backleg-heaac-test-zip
Hi,
i've tried these three files on my desire and they sound just fine !
can you tell us the exact settings u've used for music encoding? we might be onto something here...
ubik said:
Hi,
i've tried these three files on my desire and they sound just fine !
can you tell us the exact settings u've used for music encoding? we might be onto something here...
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I've encoded them with the Nero AAC Codec, Version 1.5.4.0, with the command line parameters -br 32000 for the v2 one, and -br 48000 for the v1 (Nero autoselects the appropriate codec for the chosen bitrate that way).
Did you encode your 48kbps files to HE-AAC v2? That could be the cause of your problem; v2 uses Parametric Stereo, which can improve quality for very low bitrates (<32kbps); but for 48kbps you usually get better results with just using HE-AAC v1.
Be sure to use the newest version from www .nero.com/enu/downloads-nerodigital-nero-aac-codec.php, as the change log specifically mentions some fixed incompatibilities with some hardware devices.
my files for the most part are AAC in mp4 or m4a extensions.
done myself with belight and neros AAC encoder. haven't had any problems at all with the default player or meridian
p.s some are about 2-3 years old at least and still play fine. older ones are mp3 though
I had a similar problem with my Desire. Music sounded AWFUL. Lots of clicks and pops on drum sounds. I normalized the mp3s to 90% and it seems to have fixed it.
Hi!
I choose WMA for my Audio Codec. So is there a way to add WMA too Froyo?
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I found
libomx_wmadec_sharedlibrary.so
what is the next step?
To do that , you'd have to delve into the NDK and build a native app in C, modify the decoder so it works on the SnapDragon Processor, and then build a new media player app around it.
Just grab a transcoder like Handbrake, and transcode from WMA to OGG Vorbis or any of the other Formats available here: developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
You could use FormatFactory : http://www.formatoz.com/
Does this mean that when people with a Nexus One have the phone updated, they lose WMA support?
I dont have a N1 or Desire to be honest, i have a little Hero that i am messing about with, and this thread came up first in my google search for "froyo 2.2 wma"
I was under the impression that HTC added WMA support to Sense, but I've never had the need to try it out myself.
Regards,
Dave
I'm so sick of this... My whole music collection is screwed since it's encoded into he-aac v2. Since the 2.2 update parametric stereo isn't working and the sound quality is ****!
Google have already released a patch for it but it needs to be implemented by HTC, so please complain at the HTC community and maybe they'll read it and release a patch for us as soon as possible http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/97.aspx
This is a MAJOR issue and it's affecting many streaming music applications aswell!
Probably not many users like AAC?
I am using MP3
Good luck with asking HTC to release patch!
Probably it is better to root your device and install another ROM.
Exactly!
MP3 ftw!!! AAC is an Apple-only file format (well, it's not but it's iTunes which I REFUSE to use)
AAC isn't an apple format. it's just the next step beyond MP3.
i use AAC exclusively now (and i hate all things apple) and they play fine on the phone
Still think AAC is a fail (WAV is the ultimate file format!!) - suppose you'll have to complain to HTC, or go back to 320kbps MP3 (which is better IMO than AAC anyway). If it was as big an issue as you say there'd be a lot more people complaining on here...
Does Gingerbread have native support for FLAC playback?
Currently OpenDesire seem to support certain FLACs and players like Andless and Meridian support all FLACs.
But its best if Android itself has native FLAC support.
Hi guys, just to confirm whether GB / CM7 support 24 bits flac format? I have an album in 24 bits flac, can't be played in stock music player of CM7.2.1.8 + aNa kernel. I have to download and play with Meridian player!
Gingerbread does not have native support for FLAC playback. some custom roms do have.
as mentioned before some apps support flac playback. i can recommand poweramp music player. works fine ;-)
+1 for power amp
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Hi,
I was using Winamp but it doesn't have FLAC support. I've tried downloading LePlayer and Meridian, which both claim to have FLAC support, but it doesn't find any of the FLAC files in my sdcard. I can open FLAC files in ES File Explorer and choose Meridian and it'll play, but I'd like something that detects them automatically.
Thanks.
CM7 has FLAC support
I'm using Virtuous Sense, not CM7.
I started using the beta of GoneMad Media Player. It seems to be pretty good, and have some great features, .flac support as well.
Thanks. Does it discover flac files automatically?
goister: I have a burning question for you.
Obviously if you care enough to listen to .flac files you must be an audiophile of some sort. And the thing that bothered me is that my 5 year old Samsung YP-P2 MP3 player with DNSE 2.0 sounds SOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than any of the new phones, even with their Beat Mod crap.
I was thinking, is there any app or anything you can do to the phone that will make it produce quality playback?
Sorry, can't help you there. I suppose a headphone amp would help, but I'm not an audiophile anymore. I used to be (hence the flac files) but now I just enjoy the music as much as I can on my phone and a Sennheiser C300.
I don't think there's much you can do though, as phones are made with very tight tolerances in size and integration, so usually corners are cut in audio performance since most people can't tell the difference.
ATM, I am downloading Neutron Music Player. From the description, it seems to be good. Will test and let you know.
=O
It's pretty good!
If you don't wanna buy it, just pm me =P
EDIT: Still not as good as my Samsung player, but better than all the other's i tried.
Edit 2: I failed to press menu. Once I did, they had soooooo much options to fiddle with. I ended up tweaking the settings for like half an hour and got my phone on par with my mp3 player!
Super good! Highly recommend!
Does Neutron automatically discover flac and other non mp3 audio files?
no clue, but on their main site it lists like 30 different formats lol.
And Flac was one of em.
How about Andless?