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I'm trying to decide if i should go for space, or speed.
For those of you that bought 32gb cards, are they class2? and if so do apps and such run off it fine, playing movies?
Class 6 is much more fast, and a class6 16gb card is still half the price as a class 2 32gb card.
Just looking for guidance here, do we need more then class2 for our phones.
Plan on putting movies and apps and stuff on the card.
I have a 16GB class 2 card in my Cappy, and I can play 720p video off it without a single stutter, and I never did install the lagfix, so class 2 SHOULD be fast enough, depending on what you want to do with it.
But right now, the cost of the 32GB cards is, I think, prohibitive. It costs > 3x what I can get a 16GB card for, and thus far, I have not filled my card yet.
I would go with a faster speed for the bigger size card, class 2 would be too slow if you are read/write onto it constantly; For the best bang of your buck, the Polaroid 16GB microSD (made in Japan by PNY) from Frys is going for under $20 (after rebate); Even though it is labeled as a Class 2 card, but under most SD benchmark app, it is detected as a Class 4 card (4.5 MB/s Write/15 MB/s Read under the 300MB file R/W test in SD Card Speed Test)
I would rather take a 2GB class 6 over a 32gb class 2. Class 2 is so unbelievably slow its unbearable. I use my phone as a usb drive very often. In my previous phone I had an 8gb class 2. It was so slow I thought the card was broken. So I RMAed it and the new one was the same. I realized that it just takes like 8min/gb to transfer to it. (and no its not faster in this phone)
Class 4 is standard, anything less is a waste of silicon and plastic.
Class 6 is about as fast as your average-quick USB thumb drive.
Yes class 2 is fast enough to run programs and play back video, but you'll spend a lifetime transferring those things.
Not worth it IMO. Get an 8gb class6 if cost is an issue. Also, don't go with any crappy random manufacturers. I find that a class 6 from 'craptasticMEM' is nowhere near the speeds it should be, and in fact usually slower than a clas 4 I have from kingston.
The class rating has nothing to do with playback speed, only write speed. Copying files is faster, but how often are you loading up your SD card from your computer?
I am using class 2 and it is recording video just fine. I am not sure why above poster claims "class 4 is standard" - that would imply that class 2 is sub-standard. It is not, it just has slower write speed.
Keep in mind that if you lay out the big bucks for a class 6 32GB card today, it will half the price in a few months.
Now in my HD Camcorder it requires Class 6 to record 1080P - our phones have no such requirement, so anything above class 2 will help in initial data transfer from PC - after that you may never, ever see any benefit.
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... I am not sure why above poster claims "class 4 is standard" - that would imply that class 2 is sub-standard. It is not, it just has slower write speed.
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Yes, sorry you're correct. Class 4 is standard in my gauge of memory cards/usb drives. All the classes "should" perform fine. The higher classes are obviously faster (with significant brand to brand variation). I find that they are faster at everything though. Not just write, but read as well. A class 6 card is as smooth as the internal memory in the captivate. A class 2 card is abysmal at everything (in my experience). I say class 4 is standard because class 2 is really bad...
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Yes, sorry you're correct. Class 4 is standard in my gauge of memory cards/usb drives. All the classes "should" perform fine. The higher classes are obviously faster (with significant brand to brand variation). I find that they are faster at everything though. Not just write, but read as well. A class 6 card is as smooth as the internal memory in the captivate. A class 2 card is abysmal at everything (in my experience). I say class 4 is standard because class 2 is really bad...
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It could be my blindness - not physically, but the ignorance of not having a class 4 or 6 to compare to my class 2. My class 2 works fine for me, but if the class 6 stuff gets cheap I will head on over to it.
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It could be my blindness - not physically, but the ignorance of not having a class 4 or 6 to compare to my class 2. My class 2 works fine for me, but if the class 6 stuff gets cheap I will head on over to it.
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My 32GB Class 2 reads/writes as smoothly as the internal card on the captivate as well.
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My 32GB Class 2 reads/writes as smoothly as the internal card on the captivate as well.
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lol no
internal is like class 10 i believe
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My 32GB Class 2 reads/writes as smoothly as the internal card on the captivate as well.
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its not healthy to lie
you guys are missing the fact that the class ratings are a MINIMUM rating. a lot of brands will perform MUCH faster than what they have printed on them. just saying something is class X is pretty much pointless. it's just a guideline that is being loosely followed. benchmark and move on
If your running apps off of your card than believe me there is noticable difference between a class 2 and a class 6, and yes dont go for a no name.
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If your running apps off of your card than believe me there is noticable difference between a class 2 and a class 6, and yes dont go for a no name.
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I don't believe you. It 100% fully depends on the card. Some class 2's are faster than class 6's. Ratings are lies.... benchmark ftw!
True that. Ive found significant differences by brand. However, there is definitely a noticeable difference between a class 2 and a class 6 card.
What you get depends on personal requirements more than anything else. Faster or more storage?
Hi all,
I've read in a few places that if you want to run apps from your SD card that you should have a class 6 SD card. Can anyone explain why this is? I've currently got the one that came with the phone, which is class 2. Just want to understand why I need it before splashing out the cash
Thanks
It's all about speed. Class 6 is faster than Class 4 is faster than Class 2. If you are happy with the performance with your Class 2 card, no need to splash out the cash.
yeah its just about speed, the higher the class the faster the r/w speed, you dont really need a class 6 these days tho, maybe in the old days of the g1/hero but not now
There's quite a bit of discussion on this and I'm honestly quite confused over this as well.
The higher classes just means faster write speeds but same read speeds. Certainly, this shouldn't affect the performance of apps that are installed on the card; unless the card is being used for swap memory.
Anyway, I've heard some users with 32GB microSD card (only available in class 2) using app2sd with no ill-effects. I've recently purchased one myself and will be swapping it out later tonight.
newbie on Android here.....may I ask....Im currently using a 16Gb mem card....If I change it to a 32Gb, what are the files that I need to copy to the new card, so that the apps/games currently installed will still run? I noticed there are so many folders inside my memory card now.....which one should I transfer to my new card? Or should I need to re-install the apps?
thanks..
dinoalbert said:
newbie on Android here.....may I ask....Im currently using a 16Gb mem card....If I change it to a 32Gb, what are the files that I need to copy to the new card, so that the apps/games currently installed will still run? I noticed there are so many folders inside my memory card now.....which one should I transfer to my new card? Or should I need to re-install the apps?
thanks..
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are you using apps2sd? or just running a stock like rom?
9 out of 10 users on this website would not be able to tell the difference in speed by running apps on a class 4 or class 6 cards.
AndroHero said:
are you using apps2sd? or just running a stock like rom?
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I am using an OTA Froyo but already rooted....
Before the usual flamers get to write on this topic to say high-class cards are useless, it really comes down I think to the time you have available to wait for USB transfers. On a class 2 it takes AGES. I bought a class10 16gb and it's an absolute life changer (i do have a lot of public transport so I make heavy use of my phone as a video player)
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Before the usual flamers get to write on this topic to say high-class cards are useless, it really comes down I think to the time you have available to wait for USB transfers. On a class 2 it takes AGES. I bought a class10 16gb and it's an absolute life changer (i do have a lot of public transport so I make heavy use of my phone as a video player)
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Another reason to have a class 4 or faster card in the phone is to have reliable 720p 25fps video recording. On my Class 2 with a2sd+ recording stutters.
thanks for the responses. from what i read previously, it talked about class 6 cards being less likely to be unmounted and causing problems to running applications. does this mean anything to anyone?!
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Another reason to have a class 4 or faster card in the phone is to have reliable 720p 25fps video recording. On my Class 2 with a2sd+ recording stutters.
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This is the reason when I eventually get the money I'll be getting a 16GB class 4 or 6 card. At the moment 720p is fairly pointless to me since I can't get smooth recordings with my SD card.
Have no issues with my 16Gb Class-2 sdcard. R/W speed enough to handle 720p recording and rockplayer playing avis perfectly.
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iLHaNroID said:
Have no issues with my 16Gb Class-2 sdcard. R/W speed enough to handle 720p recording and rockplayer playing avis perfectly.
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Are you running A2SD or a2sd+ on your phone? If not, that may be the reason.
The more apps and widgets and stuff is moved to the sd, the more r/w-access happens to the card, which has serious impact on video recording. I really wish the internal memory of the Desire wasn't so small. What the heck did HTC think by putting only 560 MByte internal storage into their android flagship? The SGS has 5 GiBytes!
jstegeman said:
It's all about speed. Class 6 is faster than Class 4 is faster than Class 2. If you are happy with the performance with your Class 2 card, no need to splash out the cash.
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Incorrect!
The class of the card doesn't tell you the speed of a card - it tells you the *minimum* sustained write speed on a card which is completely unfragmented
A good quality class 2 card can and often will be faster than a poor quality class 6 card.
The two Sandisk Class 2 card I use both write at around 7.5mb/s, which is faster than the class 6 minimums.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Incorrect!
The class of the card doesn't tell you the speed of a card - it tells you the *minimum* sustained write speed on a card which is completely unfragmented
A good quality class 2 card can and often will be faster than a poor quality class 6 card.
The two Sandisk Class 2 card I use both write at around 7.5mb/s, which is faster than the class 6 minimums.
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Dave
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That's interesting info! Would explain why I have far fewer problems than most people report with 720p recording onto my class2 card.
So the real answer is: Benchmark your write speed before making any big purchasing decisions on SD cards.
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Another reason to have a class 4 or faster card in the phone is to have reliable 720p 25fps video recording. On my Class 2 with a2sd+ recording stutters.
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so a class 4 good enough for 720p? i have a class 2 right now and the recording is just horrible.. i thought that my phone was broken and have changed many custom roms
Bought a C6 16gb to replace C2 4Gb - definitely faster as USB drive - both Sandisk
I wanted to let anyone looking for a micro sd about a deal i found. I found a Patriot Memory 16gb micro sdhc class 10 for $39.99 on www.CompUSA.com I think i'm going to order one after reading here on xda that patriot makes a pretty reliable sd card. I haven't ever used a patriot memory product so i only know what guys on here have posted. anyone make sure you check into the company on your own. They have the wintec 32 gb class 10 for $84.99 too!
apparently class10 cards are no good for phones, take a look at this link
yeah you dont want to spend all the money on something that might not work right?
I had read here on xda that the class of the sd card doesn't matter but the size(gb) is what matters with phones. like my SE X10 is only compatible with up to 16gb of external memory. Is that not correct? Can anyone clear this up for me?
X10's are compatible with up to 32gb microSD cards, I've got one in mine.
The size is important as you want to buy an SD card that works for the content that you intend on putting on it. If you have a lot of MP3s and videos, take a lot of pictures and shoot a lot of videos then obviously you are going to want at least a 16gb SD card.
The class does indeed matter. If you have hundreds or thousands of images then a class 2 card would take ages for them to all load in the Gallery. Or if you use App2SD at all a class 2 card wouldn't be able to keep up with the reading and writing and the app would be sluggish.
A class 10 card in my opinion is a bit excessive, I'd personally go for a class 4 or 6.
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X10's are compatible with up to 32gb microSD cards, I've got one in mine.
The size is important as you want to buy an SD card that works for the content that you intend on putting on it. If you have a lot of MP3s and videos, take a lot of pictures and shoot a lot of videos then obviously you are going to want at least a 16gb SD card.
The class does indeed matter. If you have hundreds or thousands of images then a class 2 card would take ages for them to all load in the Gallery. Or if you use App2SD at all a class 2 card wouldn't be able to keep up with the reading and writing and the app would be sluggish.
A class 10 card in my opinion is a bit excessive, I'd personally go for a class 4 or 6.
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nice info....
how do i know
I have3 a 16 Gb SD card... and I recently bought 2 16 GB sd cards 4 a x10 mini and a sam 5560... but both haven´t the blister. so how do I know (with an android app) which class are they... even mine... because was a operator gift.
I tried with SD tools... but even in that app ask me what class is my card... so bad...
can u help me?
thnks
salu2
Pawnty said:
X10's are compatible with up to 32gb microSD cards, I've got one in mine.
The size is important as you want to buy an SD card that works for the content that you intend on putting on it. If you have a lot of MP3s and videos, take a lot of pictures and shoot a lot of videos then obviously you are going to want at least a 16gb SD card.
The class does indeed matter. If you have hundreds or thousands of images then a class 2 card would take ages for them to all load in the Gallery. Or if you use App2SD at all a class 2 card wouldn't be able to keep up with the reading and writing and the app would be sluggish.
A class 10 card in my opinion is a bit excessive, I'd personally go for a class 4 or 6.
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This is very true. I have a class 2 card and loading thumbnails for artists/albums is painfully slow in mediascape. I would go for a 32 GB if you are a music fan. I have a 1800 songs on my X10 and its already full. Class 4/6 should be good, class 10 is a little excessive.
georgegon60 said:
I have3 a 16 Gb SD card... and I recently bought 2 16 GB sd cards 4 a x10 mini and a sam 5560... but both haven´t the blister. so how do I know (with an android app) which class are they... even mine... because was a operator gift.
I tried with SD tools... but even in that app ask me what class is my card... so bad...
can u help me?
thnks
salu2
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Just take the card out of the phone. There should be a 'C' printed on the card and there will be a number inside the 'C'. This is the class of your card.
I was using stock 8 GB class 2, I brought Team 16 GB class 10. Difference in performance is noticeable.
I have a class 10 8gb card and it works way better than the stock card.
Just make sure you tweak your read_ahead_kb.. Search for SD card speed improvement or speed increase.
In general, Class 4 or 6 are good enough for the application usage by phone, such HD video and phones.
I tested my Class 4 sd card, it able to transfer ~5.5mb / sec, not bad.
Yes, when price come down, I will get a Class 100 sd card too.
cheers
I'd rather the class 200.
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Class 10 significantly improves the performance.
Honestly it does not matter if someone is using the SE stock rom...however since I have tried the awesome ROM created by wolfbreak...my apps stored in sd was very sluggish...had to buy a class 10 16 gig to improve the performance...
Just got a 16Gig class 4 card...goto to play with data2sd and see the quadrant!!!!!!
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I'd rather the class 200.
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LOL
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Is there maybe an app or system menu which I could use to determine the class of my microsd card?
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apparently class10 cards are no good for phones, take a look at this link
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If you get a real kingston class 10 you will get five times the speed of a low spec class 2 generic sd card.
Rollhard said:
I had read here on xda that the class of the sd card doesn't matter but the size(gb) is what matters with phones. like my SE X10 is only compatible with up to 16gb of external memory. Is that not correct? Can anyone clear this up for me?
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Real Class 10 SD cards work at 10MB/s of data transfer speed.
Class 2=2MB/s
Class 4=4MB/s
Class 6=6MB/s
Class 8=8MB/s
Class 10=10MB/s
The best are as said by others Kingston and Sandisk.
I've a Sandisk class 6 card and i get near 5,5MB/s of data transfer.
Mine is still 8gb, i want to buy another but in Brazil it's very expensive, the taxes are very high.
Got the Wintec Filemate 16gb class 10 for just under $40 at Frys Electronics and it's given me no problems. Used it in my NookColor running tons of apps and music from it without a hitch. Now it's in my X10 and with using the SD Speed Up tools, it helped alot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1028465
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Is there maybe an app or system menu which I could use to determine the class of my microsd card?
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Just take it out and look at at.
There will be a letter C with a number in it....that will be the class of the card
Hey everyone, I've never purchased one of these for a phone as they've always came with one. Anyway I'm looking for a solid recommendation for a fast 32GB SD card. I have a Tiger Direct local to me so I'll probably try to go their today once I have something to reference.
Thanks
A-data are safe
so are Transcend
Legit SanDisk are good, but they are always twice the price of either of the above
AllGamer said:
A-data are safe
so are Transcend
Legit SanDisk are good, but they are always twice the price of either of the above
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What about Class type? I see people say 4 is fine but then I see others that say either 6 or 10 for access speeds relating to pics and videos.
I will recomnend you buying a class 6 or higher; possibly a class 10. Samsung has it in both so u can purchase it
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I will recomnend you buying a class 6 or higher; possibly a class 10. Samsung has it in both so u can purchase it
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same here
don't buy anything less than class 6, too slow for a good fast phone experience, specially if you plan to run apps from the SD card
Don't do this. Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15269669#post15269669
I use a class 4 32gb sandisk and the speed is fine. Lower class cards are more realiable and the average user cant tell the difference unless you're transferring large files or large quantities of files at once. My class 4 acts like a class 6 but is super reliable.
Id highly recommend a class 4 over a class 10. There's a thread around here if you search that will tell you the benefits of a class 4 and lower class against higher class cards.
Deebo took your bike too?
Just purchased 32GB san disk micro SD from amazon for $37 and it works great. Replaced my old 16GB where there was not enought space to keep my fav music library.
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same here
don't buy anything less than class 6, too slow for a good fast phone experience, specially if you plan to run apps from the SD card
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isn't the only thing the class does is gauge the speed of transferring files to and from the sd card, not the actual performance?
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isn't the only thing the class does is gauge the speed of transferring files to and from the sd card, not the actual performance?
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Higher class, like another poster said, will give you higher speeds for large file transfers. However, this comes (from testing) at a sacrifice in everyday use of read speeds on everyday smaller files (think gallery, music player, etc). That's basically a short summary of what other XDA members have found from testing. Personally, I picked up a 32GB card from SanDisk off of Amazon and am completely satisfied. You may have a slightly slower time adding all of your files initially, but you most likely won't notice the difference when accessing all those files later on the phone. Look up the card on Amazon and the corresponding reviews and decide for yourself. Hope this helps.
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personally, i find those Class 10 to perform better for me.
the time it takes to write/read small files is negligent compared to the amount of time it takes to write/read large files like MP3, MKV, etc
those word documents/excel spreadsheets, pdf, notepad texts, loads up instantly on my Adata 32GB Class 10. and i got 3 of them
1 for music
1 for videos
1 for apps/games/docs/work
so again, that is yet another one of those where the benchmark says one thing, but real life usage shows otherwise
I use a PNY 16GB Class 10.
From what I understand I would need the class 10 card if I want to record HD video. If I am not going to record video can I get away with class 4?
Thanks for any help!
You do not need a class 10 to record HD Video, a class 4 does the job perfectly well. I had a 32GB class 4 sandisk and it was fine.
I've heard that for smartphones, Class 10 is even worse than lower classes.
That's because class 10 has fast block reading speeding. The problem is that it comes at a price of slow random access reading. If you want to play high bitrate movies from the SD card, higher class will be better for sure. However for day-to-day usage, lower class might make the phone feel faster.
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From what I understand I would need the class 10 card if I want to record HD video. If I am not going to record video can I get away with class 4?
Thanks for any help!
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class 4 is good enough for video recording.
iirc, 1080p video on the note is recorded at a bitrate of around 17mbps or so. convert that from bits to bytes and its something like 2.125mb/s minimum required to record videos at 1080p. so anything higher than a class 2 should be fine for playback and recording (unless you encode at a silly bitrate).
the only time i could see anyone really needing the faster class speed would be if you wanted to take 8mp shots in rapid succession. depending on the colour tone of the image you intend to take, the file size can go up to 3mb. at that point, your photos per second will be limited by the speed of your memory card. ie. class 4 = 1 photo per second, class 6 = 2 photos per second, class 10 = 3 photos per second maximum.
Be careful in stores. Went to best buy last night for SD card. Class 4 cards only in phone section but at class 10 price from camera section. Also shelf had classes mixed up only sorted by gb. So pay attention to what your getting
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Whelp, I know that my bullcrap cheapo Lexar "class 10" wont allow me to record to it directly.
Man.. I'm pissed. time to look for a new one.
Hope a Samsung 32GB c10 I am thinking of buying will be ok on a SAMSUNG device...
microSD Class 10
What about if you will move (apps2SD) games like Sentinel (TD game) in the microSD, is it necessary to go for c10?
I'm confused on what to buy, c4 or c10.
Need your help!
For me it is. copying movies from PC to my SD card is just painful on class4.
I see that some good class10 cards can write at 20mb/s (sequential), which is 5 times as fast as my current class4 sandisk (4.1mb/s).
The only thing that is holding me back is the price. Once the price comes down a bit ill definitely grab a c10 kingston 32gb.
What about for games you move to your external sd card? Will performance decrease with a c4? Much better with c10?
What can you say about the Ridata 32gb class 10? Is it any good compared to transcend or kingston or sandisk?
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What about for games you move to your external sd card? Will performance decrease with a c4? Much better with c10?
What can you say about the Ridata 32gb class 10? Is it any good compared to transcend or kingston or sandisk?
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Dont know about games, I doubt c10 will make a difference at all....but dont mark my words
As for brand you should look at the particular model rather than judging by just the brand. For instance the sandisk mobile ultra (class 4) beats many of the other class10 cards
check this link
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011.html
Amazon
I managed to get a class 10 32 gig for about £25. Currently they are very cheap so it might be worth getting it either way.
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I managed to get a class 10 32 gig for about £25. Currently they are very cheap so it might be worth getting it either way.
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When I switched from a class4 32GB sandisk to a class10 32GB Lexar, I noticed the smartphone working faster and snappier, probably APP2SD in gingerbread and pictures and videos in the gallery has something to do with that change in response.
In my experience with memory cards and professional equipment, not only we shall choose for class ratings, but also for trusted brands, like sandisk, lexar and transcend.
To sum up, class10 is better than class4, and if the diference in price is not very high, totally worth it, but, there is a lot more difference in daily use between a galaxy note and a HTC Desire.
Class 10 is for marketing, it's totally not needed for smartphone with internal memcard.
You might want to read this thread on why class 4 is better suited for smartphone use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14456360&postcount=42
Currently using a Class 4 Sandisk 32gb card. Am very satisfied with the performance.
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Currently using a Class 4 Sandisk 32gb card. Am very satisfied with the performance.
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Same here
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Can someone answer the following question which 32gb SD card is best for Samsung Galaxy Note in terms of performance?
Assuming there is one simple answer
Would appreciated a direct link to say Amazon product page.
Appreciated any help as it saves me annoying people by opening a new thread
Sandisk 16/32GB Mobile Ultra
Guys!
What can you say about Sandisk's Mobile Ultra microSD cards? I'm planning to buy this sdcard instead of class10 microsd cards.
Thanks!
allansy said:
Guys!
What can you say about Sandisk's Mobile Ultra microSD cards? I'm planning to buy this sdcard instead of class10 microsd cards.
Thanks!
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probably the best , but superexpensive