32gb class2 or 16gb class6+ SDCARD - Captivate Accessories

I'm trying to decide if i should go for space, or speed.
For those of you that bought 32gb cards, are they class2? and if so do apps and such run off it fine, playing movies?
Class 6 is much more fast, and a class6 16gb card is still half the price as a class 2 32gb card.
Just looking for guidance here, do we need more then class2 for our phones.
Plan on putting movies and apps and stuff on the card.

I have a 16GB class 2 card in my Cappy, and I can play 720p video off it without a single stutter, and I never did install the lagfix, so class 2 SHOULD be fast enough, depending on what you want to do with it.
But right now, the cost of the 32GB cards is, I think, prohibitive. It costs > 3x what I can get a 16GB card for, and thus far, I have not filled my card yet.

I would go with a faster speed for the bigger size card, class 2 would be too slow if you are read/write onto it constantly; For the best bang of your buck, the Polaroid 16GB microSD (made in Japan by PNY) from Frys is going for under $20 (after rebate); Even though it is labeled as a Class 2 card, but under most SD benchmark app, it is detected as a Class 4 card (4.5 MB/s Write/15 MB/s Read under the 300MB file R/W test in SD Card Speed Test)

I would rather take a 2GB class 6 over a 32gb class 2. Class 2 is so unbelievably slow its unbearable. I use my phone as a usb drive very often. In my previous phone I had an 8gb class 2. It was so slow I thought the card was broken. So I RMAed it and the new one was the same. I realized that it just takes like 8min/gb to transfer to it. (and no its not faster in this phone)
Class 4 is standard, anything less is a waste of silicon and plastic.
Class 6 is about as fast as your average-quick USB thumb drive.
Yes class 2 is fast enough to run programs and play back video, but you'll spend a lifetime transferring those things.
Not worth it IMO. Get an 8gb class6 if cost is an issue. Also, don't go with any crappy random manufacturers. I find that a class 6 from 'craptasticMEM' is nowhere near the speeds it should be, and in fact usually slower than a clas 4 I have from kingston.

The class rating has nothing to do with playback speed, only write speed. Copying files is faster, but how often are you loading up your SD card from your computer?
I am using class 2 and it is recording video just fine. I am not sure why above poster claims "class 4 is standard" - that would imply that class 2 is sub-standard. It is not, it just has slower write speed.
Keep in mind that if you lay out the big bucks for a class 6 32GB card today, it will half the price in a few months.
Now in my HD Camcorder it requires Class 6 to record 1080P - our phones have no such requirement, so anything above class 2 will help in initial data transfer from PC - after that you may never, ever see any benefit.

alphadog00 said:
... I am not sure why above poster claims "class 4 is standard" - that would imply that class 2 is sub-standard. It is not, it just has slower write speed.
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Yes, sorry you're correct. Class 4 is standard in my gauge of memory cards/usb drives. All the classes "should" perform fine. The higher classes are obviously faster (with significant brand to brand variation). I find that they are faster at everything though. Not just write, but read as well. A class 6 card is as smooth as the internal memory in the captivate. A class 2 card is abysmal at everything (in my experience). I say class 4 is standard because class 2 is really bad...

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Yes, sorry you're correct. Class 4 is standard in my gauge of memory cards/usb drives. All the classes "should" perform fine. The higher classes are obviously faster (with significant brand to brand variation). I find that they are faster at everything though. Not just write, but read as well. A class 6 card is as smooth as the internal memory in the captivate. A class 2 card is abysmal at everything (in my experience). I say class 4 is standard because class 2 is really bad...
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It could be my blindness - not physically, but the ignorance of not having a class 4 or 6 to compare to my class 2. My class 2 works fine for me, but if the class 6 stuff gets cheap I will head on over to it.

alphadog00 said:
It could be my blindness - not physically, but the ignorance of not having a class 4 or 6 to compare to my class 2. My class 2 works fine for me, but if the class 6 stuff gets cheap I will head on over to it.
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My 32GB Class 2 reads/writes as smoothly as the internal card on the captivate as well.

locsplitter said:
My 32GB Class 2 reads/writes as smoothly as the internal card on the captivate as well.
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lol no
internal is like class 10 i believe

locsplitter said:
My 32GB Class 2 reads/writes as smoothly as the internal card on the captivate as well.
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its not healthy to lie

you guys are missing the fact that the class ratings are a MINIMUM rating. a lot of brands will perform MUCH faster than what they have printed on them. just saying something is class X is pretty much pointless. it's just a guideline that is being loosely followed. benchmark and move on

If your running apps off of your card than believe me there is noticable difference between a class 2 and a class 6, and yes dont go for a no name.
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If your running apps off of your card than believe me there is noticable difference between a class 2 and a class 6, and yes dont go for a no name.
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I don't believe you. It 100% fully depends on the card. Some class 2's are faster than class 6's. Ratings are lies.... benchmark ftw!

True that. Ive found significant differences by brand. However, there is definitely a noticeable difference between a class 2 and a class 6 card.
What you get depends on personal requirements more than anything else. Faster or more storage?

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What MicroSD are you using?

Hi, I have been searching on the forum in search of some information on MicroSD cards and came to no avail.
With my HD, it came with a 8GB Class 6 MicroSDHC. I think it needed it to play videos. I can't imagine using it with a slower card.
Now, my TP2 will arrive Monday and I would like to know the following:
1. Brand
2. Size
3. Speed (class)
4. Price
Is it performing well with the video playbacks or have you installed the SD Tuner software available for the HD?
What do you recommend?
Many, many thanks for any replies, comments and help!
Bought a A-Data microSD class 6, 4 GB at a local computer store.
Not the one i was looking for, i wanted the 8GB or 16GB but both where not in stock and the 4GB was less then 10 euros. I will buy a larger one in a few months.
With class 6 my phone isn't slowed down. A few years ago i bought a 2GB mini-SD, but my HTC Vox was slowed down very much. Didn't look to the class/or speed back then.
MicroSD cards based on SLC might be beter them MLC. IMHO i would always take a class 6 or higher card. However class 8 cards are hard to find.
I'm using the 8GB Class 4 card that came with my daughter's Nokia 5800 and it seems fine. Just watched an xdiv episode of Only Fools and Horses on it with no stutter or dropped frames.
I bought a class 6 off Ebay and it should be here on Monday so I can compare then
i'm using sandisk 8g class 2. whatched movies and played music, everything is fine. It only cost me just under tenner.
The performance diference between a class 2 or a class 6 is not that noticeable. However, at the price the cards are, I think it worths always to buy a class 6 card.
I bought a Transcend 8GB class 6 card. It cost me aprox. 20€.
The biggest differences I noticed between a class 2 and 6 card are:
-Taking photos is faster with class 6
-Browsing photos in sdcard is a bit faster also
-Viewing movies sometimes is a bit more smooth.
HastaSSSS
I have a 16GB class 2 Sandisk. I watch movies just fine. I figure with a class 6 i might be able to watch HD videos more smoothly.
Hi guys,
Thanks for all your replies. So from what you guys are telling me, it is always better to pay that little extra for the class 6 MicroSDs. But then again, is it worth investing in a 16GB Class 4 (no Class 6 available except the brand A-Data) or an 8GB Class 6.
16GB is nearly 4 times more expensive than the 8GB and yet it is slower. Shall I just get 2 8GB and hot swap the 2 cards as need be?
I bought a class 6 off Ebay and it should be here on Monday so I can compare then
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Yeah, please let us know if it makes that much of a difference.
Bought a A-Data microSD class 6, 4 GB at a local computer store.
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I have read about this brand, and what others said was that their Class 6 under performs Sandisk's Class 4 Cards. Do yo notice any differences? How is the performance?
Also, I wouldn't recommend buying these cards off eBay. There are so many, fake cards on there. I know so, because I know mates that sell these cards. I would just buy from a genuine local store and pay a little bit more unless you don't care about performance.
Anyway, my last question.
What brand do you think has the best performance. Yeah, we can find out all the data about these cards on the web but it's nothing like the hands on tests from real users. So, will it be Sandisk, Transend, Toshiba, Kingston or the later A-Data?
Found a pretty review on the Sandisk 16GB C4 MicroSDHC cards. They compared it to the Kingston 8GB C4 MicroSDHC card.
Sandisk seems to be the company that is producing the fastest cards. It out performs Kingston.
But $133, is a bit steep. I think if I am correct a Sandisk 8GB C6 MicroSDHC is only $49.
What do you think?
You won't notice much difference between class 2 and class 6 as the device can only read at a certain speed, which is nearer class 4.
There are some cheap class 2 16gb cards out there, I have them and you only really notice if you install something like sdtuneup, but then again, you wouldn't notice much difference between class4 and class6
SanDisk microSDHC 16 GB Mobile Ultra works fine!
With the enclosed reader it is really fast via USB.
nicelad_uk said:
the device can only read at a certain speed, which is nearer class 4.
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Cheers for the heads up about the TP2's read speed.
I was going to go for a 16GB class 2 but now might hold out for a class 4.
Haven't noticed any speed difference between my 8GB class 4 and 6 cards except that it's possibly slower than my Trinity but that may be due to the crummy TP2 stock ROM...
cocoaju said:
Shall I just get 2 8GB and hot swap the 2 cards as need be?
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Please don't get two 8GB's, you will ruin the back cover of the device swapping the cards over all the time
My understanding is that the Class affects write speed, not read speed, so you won't see a difference playing movies on one or the other. You will see a difference in the amount of time it takes to get the movie onto the card (providing you aren't using ActiveSync, which will slow things down way beyond Class2 speeds).
I have a SanDisk Class 2 16 GB card on my Vogue and watch movies just fine with CorePlayer. Maybe a brief stutter once every 5 minutes or so, which I attribute to WinMo doing some other task in the background, not the read speed of the card.
In short, if it doesn't matter to you how long it takes to transfer large files onto the card, go with the least expensive.
Haven't noticed any speed difference between my 8GB class 4 and 6 cards except that it's possibly slower than my Trinity but that may be due to the crummy TP2 stock ROM...
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Really? How much slower?
Yeah, I think I will go for 16GB for sure. The only thing now is what class. I am hearing 2 things here. I am worried about stutters on watching movies.
Some are saying speed only matters to write and not read.
But then I have read that it does matter, that is why there is a SDTuneUp for the HD.
I really don't want to buy a cheaper Class 2 card and only finding it is not working to my standards. I am pretty fussy about these things.
Any of you needed to install the SDTuneUp registry edit for the TP2? Do we need it? Anyone did any tests?
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Really? How much slower?
Yeah, I think I will go for 16GB for sure. The only thing now is what class. I am hearing 2 things here. I am worried about stutters on watching movies.
Some are saying speed only matters to write and not read.
But then I have read that it does matter, that is why there is a SDTuneUp for the HD.
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Check this out.
And this.
Class rating only refers to write speed, even though on the official SD association page it says "transfer speed." What they don't say is that it's transfer speed only one direction.
ajbopp said:
Check this out.
And this.
Class rating only refers to write speed, even though on the official SD association page it says "transfer speed." What they don't say is that it's transfer speed only one direction.
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Hello ajbopp,
Thanks for your additional information. I think not a lot of people actually realise this. I always thought the Class Rating was how you determine transfer speed and not just write speed.
But there must be some ratings for Reading. Some cards are faster than others and that will certainly affect the rate of requiring information from the card, right? Because files are written in blocks and are distributed everywhere (fragmentation), so if the card is faster, then finding the blocks will be quicker, hence a better performance for reading movie files.
Just thinking logically how computer hard disk works. Not sure if that applies to SDHC cards. I also think the speed is also determined by the drive (the hardware reading/writing on the card).
There aren't many information on this. I have been searching around and most information I found was given by the companies that made these cards. Real tests are few and far between. Most websites I visited, tells me only of the write speed as I think that is what is most important to people who uses these cards, such as Photo Fanatics who needs speed for taking high end photos very quickly and for taking HD videos at 30fps. There is less need to know about read speed.
It's so confusing...
Got it yesterday. Thanks for all your help guys!
I finally went for the Transcend 8GB Class 6 Micro SDHC. Cost of only $187 HKD, roughly $23 USD. Didn't end up getting the 16GB as they didn't have any in stock and it costs 3 times the amount.
Without any tests, I just loaded my movies and it played very well. No dropped frames. No tweaks whatsoever.
Hello!
I had a TP with a Micro SD 8GB Class 2 card.
I'm considering buying a new one (lack of space available) and I wonder if I should consider a class 4 or 6...
I use the MicroSD to store software, pictures (camera), music (to listen), and some videos (to watch).
I don't intend to remove the microsd from the TP2 slot (have to remove the cover) so what I usually do is to connect via USB cable (data instead of AS).
So, transfering data like this will I notice difference with Class 2, 4 or 6?
I'd get a good price with this:
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-SDC2-16GB-microSDHC/dp/B001RPD06I
is it good enough or should I buy a Sandisk or perhaps a Class 4 or 6?
Thanks
SanDisk and Kingston are both good manufactures.
Class 4 is faster than class 2 and class 6 is faster than class 4.
But on the other hand: class 4 cards need more power consumption than class 2 cards and class 6 cards need power consumption than class 4.
For this reason I bought 1 x 16gb class 4. That is the compromise of speed and power.
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Class 4 is faster than class 2 and class 6 is faster than class 4.
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Again, this is only for write speed. I think it's an important distinction to make, especially if you are hoping for better video playback because of a faster card. The class of the card is not likely to have any impact on the device's performance, either video or anything else (other than file saving/writing operations).
so... for my kinda use there is no need for a class 6 right?
do you think a class 2 kingston MicroSD 16GB can be used for what I want?
playback music and some video... storage ... navigation?

[Q] MicroSD card...is this a good deal?

Hello people,
I just came across this microsd card deal:
http://mobile.dailysteals.com/Default.aspx
this is samsung 16 gb class 2 micro sd card. But I am not sure if this is a good deal or not? can anyone tell me ?
Thank you,
Class 2 cards are SLOOOOW! I'd much rather spend a few bucks and get a faster one. I wouldn't get anything less than class 6, and usually go for the class 10 cards. Basically, the speed for a class 2 card is 2 MB/s, a class 6 is 6 MB/s, and so on.
bknust said:
Class 2 cards are SLOOOOW! I'd much rather spend a few bucks and get a faster one. I wouldn't get anything less than class 6, and usually go for the class 10 cards. Basically, the speed for a class 2 card is 2 MB/s, a class 6 is 6 MB/s, and so on.
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Yes that is what I read somewhere. Just wanted to confirm. Thanks for helping me out.
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Classes only apply to minimum write speed, not read speed, which is far more important.
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Classes only apply to minimum write speed, not read speed, which is far more important.
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Right: a Class 2's and a Class 6's speed-differences will only be apparent when copying files to the SD card from the PC.
Samsung 16GB C2 MicroSD
Subtotal : $14.99
Shipping Charges : $4.99
Total Charges : USD$19.98
Yes, that is a good deal. I paid USD$28 for my Sandisk just yesterday, and that was the best deal I could find (on eBay). Mine did come with a USB-reader, though.
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Yes that is what I read somewhere. Just wanted to confirm. Thanks for helping me out.
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Don't be fooled into buying a card on class speed alone - 16gb and 32gb class 6 are very pricey. If you mostly store movies and music on your SD card a class 2 is fine. Even for recording video on the phone, class 2 works fine.
If you are wiping your SD card or filling it with new data all the time, then maybe you want faster write speed - but I would rather save my $$$ for now. The same class 6 cards will be half price in a few months.
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Don't be fooled into buying a card on class speed alone - 16gb and 32gb class 6 are very pricey. If you mostly store movies and music on your SD card a class 2 is fine. Even for recording video on the phone, class 2 works fine.
If you are wiping your SD card or filling it with new data all the time, then maybe you want faster write speed - but I would rather save my $$$ for now. The same class 6 cards will be half price in a few months.
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Right: a Class 2's and a Class 6's speed-differences will only be apparent when copying files to the SD card from the PC.
Samsung 16GB C2 MicroSD
Subtotal : $14.99
Shipping Charges : $4.99
Total Charges : USD$19.98
Yes, that is a good deal. I paid USD$28 for my Sandisk just yesterday, and that was the best deal I could find (on eBay). Mine did come with a USB-reader, though.
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Classes only apply to minimum write speed, not read speed, which is far more important.
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Thank you for all of you for your replies...but unfortunately the deal was gone by the time I decided to buy
Now waiting for next best deal, at least now I know that just for storing music and vids class 2 is fine !
Go over to G1 forum and search this. Not sure what our phone's max read/write speed is but I am sure its similar to HTC devices- Class 6. You can spend the money on the class 10 but its useless for mobile devices.
Also, some say its only for pc -read/write- not 100% true. however, maybe for our particular phone....
For example- on the dream you can use your SDcard as a swap file placing an EXT2/3/4 partition on it. The class 6 has better performance and longer life than a class 2- i dont recall why exactly but you can easily google it. It was something about after so many read/writes it will burn out the SD but there is more technical factors to it. It has to do with bit allocation and spreading the writes over the card as to continual writing to the same spot- IIRC(dont quote me on that I havent thought about this in a looong time). Now, as this pertains to our devices- well it doesnt really since we dont utilize SDCard swap files and such for our devices. So talking in a circle, I guess for our situation it does only relate to PC writes..
^o hai thx
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Go over to G1 forum and search this. Not sure what our phone's max read/write speed is but I am sure its similar to HTC devices- Class 6. You can spend the money on the class 10 but its useless for mobile devices.
Also, some say its only for pc -read/write- not 100% true. however, maybe for our particular phone....
For example- on the dream you can use your SDcard as a swap file placing an EXT2/3/4 partition on it. The class 6 has better performance and longer life than a class 2- i dont recall why exactly but you can easily google it. It was something about after so many read/writes it will burn out the SD but there is more technical factors to it. It has to do with bit allocation and spreading the writes over the card as to continual writing to the same spot- IIRC(dont quote me on that I havent thought about this in a looong time). Now, as this pertains to our devices- well it doesnt really since we dont utilize SDCard swap files and such for our devices. So talking in a circle, I guess for our situation it does only relate to PC writes..
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Hey that's a lot of technical information, but thanks. Now I understood that the class doesnt really matter. So next time if any good deal is out I will just jump on it.
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[Q] Micro SD, which one?

Hi,
I want to buy a 32 gb micro sd for my Atrix, but I see there are different Classes....
I saw in TheCellGuru a 32 gb Class 2 for about 75 bucks. But I remeber I had a Class 4 8gb, so what is the difference?
Can my Atrix read any 32gb card? Should I look for another one?
Thanks!
The higher the class the faster the SD card.
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Thnx. But can Atrix read any class? What class should I get?
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Thnx. But can Atrix read any class? What class should I get?
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if you can live with the slower speed, den the 32gb is fine.
But whats the deal with speed? Does it affect performance on the phone or just data transfer time when moving files to and from the micro sd?
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IIRC, class speed also affects how fast the SD loads on your phone.
Thnx. So, lets say I never turn off the phone, and the sd card will load only once, getting a 2 class sd isnt a bad idea. Am I right?
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Can someine confirm if Atrix supports Class 6 32 gb micro sd?
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Yes an ATRIX will support a class 6 32gb SD ( finally moto adds ATRIX as a word in their keyboard lol)
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The higher the class the faster the SD card.
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Slight correction: the higher the minimum speed guarantee. A class number defines the absolute minimum write speed of an SD card. Devices can read the class from the card and with that can set some expectations in the software for how long things should take.
So with that, there are Class 2 cards that actually, out of the box, perform better than cards with a much higher class. Will they forever, once worn and fragmented? Maybe not.
It's all very vague, exactly what the manufacturers want
I had a class 2 8GB card and now have a class 4 32GB card ($45 on amazon with their goldbox deal, kingston) and the class 2 is like 2 mbps faster than my class 4... maybe i should have gone with the class 2...
I have a Lexar 32Gb class 10, it's working despise of some bad comments around it, so far, so good. The class of the card is about the reading speed - the higher, the better (in theory).
I have the 32g class 10 lexar but it failed on my once and I needed to reformat it. If I had to by another one I would stick with sandisk. They are pretty solid.
Generally class determines the speed of Read and Write.
Class 4 is usually the minimum requirement for HD recording as it requires faster writing abilities.
Not all microSD have the same speeds as each company varies with speed even if they are the same class. Some class 4 could actually be faster than class 6.
Beware of fake microSD as usually that may be one of the reasons that it could be slower or even die out within the first week of usage.
I would recommend using SD Tools in the market place as soon as you receive your card.
https://market.android.com/details?id=ales.veluscek.sdtools&feature=search_result
Just be patient with the deals, there's always a lower price.
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The class of the card is about the reading speed - the higher, the better (in theory).
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Write speed, not read speed. The whole "class" thing is confusing enough without people giving incorrect information. Sorry to be so pedantic.
Here it is direct from the source (PDF): http://www.sdcard.org/developers/te...lified_Specification_Ver3.01_Final_100518.pdf
Also from the source, a simplified overview: http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/speed_class/
Class is based on write speed because SD cards (well MMC) of course were originally conceived of for use with digital cameras and camcorders, where write speed is critical, but read speed much less so.
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Write speed, not read speed.
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Yeap. That's what I meant.
Thanks for the correction
Thabks everyone! I will wait and be on the look for a nice deal. Thnx!
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I just tested my 16GB class 2 MicroSD (Patriot brand, off newegg) that i've had for a year or two. The minimum write speed during the benchmark was 10.5 MB/s, i.e. Class 10 speeds. Read speeds were 16MB/s. I'm pleased
Since there's a high variance, all you can do is buy a card based on brand reputation and the class rating and hope that it's actually faster than the class suggests. Does it need to be faster? I dunno, I only use my card for media storage.
Mgamerz said:
I had a class 2 8GB card and now have a class 4 32GB card ($45 on amazon with their goldbox deal, kingston) and the class 2 is like 2 mbps faster than my class 4... maybe i should have gone with the class 2...
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greetings, im new to the forums (and the atrix, only had this baby for two days now), but i can shed some light on the matter.
with the microSD cards, the class tells you the minimum write speed. class 2 = 2mb/s minimum. class 4 = 4mb/s minimum. hence your class 4 is meant to be 2mb/s faster than class 2.
at the moment, i use a class 10 16gb from kingmax. for the most part, most people wont notice the difference between most classes, but if you want to take lots of photos in rapid succession or if you plan to film 720p footage directly to the SD card, or even if you watch really large videos, its generally better to go for a higher class.
sure, you can still take a 5-8mp photo and save it to a class 2, but at class 2 speeds, it would take ~1 second for the photo to save. on a class 10, it takes ~0.2 seconds for the same photo to save (assuming all else remains the same), which can come in handy for quick snaps. but given the amount of ram we have on the atrix, i'd assume it would buffer to ram first and copy later so it wouldnt be much of an issue.
I took a chance....
I took a chance and bought some Chinese 32GB cards supposedly rated for Class 10.
I ran a test on one of the cards , placing it inside my phone, using SD tools (from the market)
It reported write speeds of 4.0 MB/s and read speeds of 5.3MB/s. In theory that's about a class 6 but there are supposedly latency issues that creep up as the cards get larger.
I need to compare that number to known cards before I say anything about the source. I'd be curious to see test results from this app on other atrix's with other microSD cards.
I do notice that it is faster loading everything than my SanDisk 16GB class 2 card. My camera works faster too: faster to load the pictures and faster to take them.

Which class 10 32GB microSD card?

so, which would be the best, most stable class 10 micro sdhc card? i can't seem to find a definitive answer, as everyone seems to complain about the cards not being a "true class 10", etc. there are only a few reviews on newegg,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ... 600006235 600082443&IsNodeId=1&name=Class 10
and amazon, a bunch of people complain about the speed ratings mot being true.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...32gb+micro+sd+class+10&ie=UTF8&qid=1318260310
which one do you guys have experience with, and would recommend? the kingstons are just out of the question, as i doubt that they'd be worth twice the coin.
It would be nice if you narrow it down to specific cards.
Although there is to note that most people do not need anything past a class 4 which is more than enough to handle day to day transfer between phone and card.
Sandisk seems to be a darkhorse here since they don't really show you a class number and it ranges from 2 - 6 mbps. The best way is to simply test it out with a SD card testing program.
thanks for the response. specifically, i like the PNY and SanDisk, but like you said, sandisk is secretive about their speeds. i don't want to buy, test the speeds, and return if i'm not happy with it. and is class 10 not required for recording HD video on our phones? thanks again
nah, class 10 is not required to record HD video. besides if i remember correctly, the dz only records up to 720p. you should still be fine unless you're shooting a 20 minute video.
There are some reports from people with various issues with Class 10 cards. Its not widespread by any means (plenty of people here seem fine with their Class 10), but it seems that Class 10 have more issues than lower Classes. So some here will recommend Class 4 or 6 (can't remember which) as the highest you should get.
I'd stay far away from PNY if I were you. I've owned 2 PNY products. Not Micro-SD, but an SD card and a USB thumb drive. On the thumb drive, the USB port and memory chip pulled/broke right out of the plastic casing with regular use (not damaged in any way). The thing just looked and felt flimsy. But I needed one in a hurry for a business trip, and I bought what the store had. I figured, its a USB thumb drive, you can get these things for free. How bad can it be? And I was shocked when the thing actually broke apart after a few weeks.
Similarly, the PNY SD card I have split into 2 pieces (along its seams). In both cases (PNY thumb drive and SD card), the memory chip itself still worked fine, and it was just a matter of using some super glue to hold together the plastic casing that failed. But it just displays shoddy and cheap build quality. I own 3 Sandisk Micro-SD cards, and a couple Sandisk SD cards and thumb drives. Never had an issue with any of them, and build quality is much better than PNY.
There is a long thread in accessories with SD recommendations:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042324
DUDE! I had the same problem with the PNY thumb-drive! It was the attache series I think. Anyways yea stick to well known brands that are consistently rated high, sandisk, kingston, adata, etc. Honestly though, class 6 would probably be the fastest you'd need unless your gonna be taking extremely high quality pictures at a very fast speed lol aka multi-shot. But then again I'm not sure our phone is even up too that anyways lol.
I have an ADATA 16GB Class 10 from newegg. Has given me zero issues. I would imagine this is probably the same for the 32gb version.
Not sure if the 32GB would hold up. I found out that I'm not that big of a packrat on the size of the SDcard, so I went with a 16gb instead of paying more for space I'd never use, or take years to accumulate.
h2testw 1.4 log after testing it out when I received it:
Warning: Only 15786 of 15787 MByte tested.
Writing speed: 15.1 MByte/s
Reading speed: 18.5 MByte/s
It was definitely a step up from the 4GB class 4 kingston I was previously using, which was getting write speeds of around 5-6mb/sec. After moving onto the Adata, I noticed speedier loading in the photo gallery like night and day. It used to take 2-3 seconds to load the gallery, especially if it was a big picture folder. Now it takes literally milliseconds to load the content. Of course, this may just be anecdotal and placebo effect, but my general experience with android and sdcards for the last 3 years is on the line about it.
actually i retract the kingston comment, i think they had problems with 32gb class 10 cards specifically now that i recall...
mputtr said:
It would be nice if you narrow it down to specific cards.
Although there is to note that most people do not need anything past a class 4 which is more than enough to handle day to day transfer between phone and card.
Sandisk seems to be a darkhorse here since they don't really show you a class number and it ranges from 2 - 6 mbps. The best way is to simply test it out with a SD card testing program.
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The Sandisk that came with my phone has the class 4 symbol printed on the card...
I'm thinking of getting a class 4 myself, don't feel like paying almost +100% for class 10. I'll probably get an A-Data, as it gives a decent price per GB. I'm just torn between 16 and 32 GB
As for Kingston, I think the quality of their products went down a lot in the last two years.
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The Sandisk that came with my phone has the class 4 symbol printed on the card...
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Its an old card. Sandisk used to designate Class, but they don't anymore.
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kaijura said:
I have an ADATA 16GB Class 10 from newegg[/url]. Has given me zero issues. I would imagine this is probably the same for the 32gb version.
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If you look through the thread I linked on my previous response, you will see there are some folks that claim more data corruption issues with 32 Gb cards versus smaller capacities. It seems purely anecdotal. But my point is, don't assume.
My adata 32gb class 4 is going strong since august...
sooo... is class 6 good enough for games, apps2sd, recording HD video, etc?
Cobra281 said:
sooo... is class 6 good enough for games, apps2sd, recording HD video, etc?
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My sandisk class 4 is fine, class 6 would be better than fine my class 4 gets 6 speeds though
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
My sandisk class 4 is fine, class 6 would be better than fine my class 4 gets 6 speeds though
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can you please tell me the model # of your sandisk? i need a new sd card asap. running outta memory
Cobra281 said:
can you please tell me the model # of your sandisk? i need a new sd card asap. running outta memory
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For me I bought this off ebay ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/380405008880?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 ) and it has been working great for me. I loaded it up to about 28Gig and had no trouble. Currently I have 10gig free.
I've got the Sandisk 32gb class 10.
But the one from Samsung seems great.
The SanDisk 64GB MicroSDXC is also fully compatible despite the device being a sdhc device. Apparently the protocol differences lie on code and not on hardware.
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The SanDisk 64GB MicroSDXC is also fully compatible despite the device being a sdhc device. Apparently the protocol differences lie on code and not on hardware.
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did they already verified that it works on the DZ?
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did they already verified that it works on the DZ?
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Yea according to this article and many other phones on Gingerbread. I suppose there shouldn't be any problem under ICS.
http://androidcommunity.com/sandisk...working-on-multiple-android-devices-20110927/
well. that is fantastic.. Maybe when the prices go down in a year i can get that to upgrade my 32gb card.

[Q] 16GB class 2 vs. 32 GB class 4

I currently have 16 GB class 2, and i am about to but 32GB class 4.
what is the diffrences beetween them ?
The games will work smother with class 4?
I have a 32 GB class 10 micro sd card, bit I didn't really notice any difference in speed compared to the 8 GB class 2 micro sd that came with the phone...
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The class rating of an Sd card is based of off its Write speed. So a 16gb class 2 would write at 2mb per second, the 32 gb class 4 will be able to write at 4mb per second, There is a slight "catch" however when using larger storage Sd cards, its been explained to me in the past that when you go up in storage it takes the device (phone, pc, camera ect.) longer periods of time to initially read the card itself because its now reading through more storage space then before (even if that space is empty in places).
With that in mind, the 32gb class 4 will Write files to it self at a faster speed then the 16gb class 2, but it will take your phone longer periods of time to access the information on the larger Gb card, so will games play smoother off your Sd card, technically no, they wont. But what you will achieve are faster data transfer rates when moving files to and from.
Also take into account that the class rating system isnt exactly perfect. For instance my 32gb class 4 is rated to write at 4mb per second, but its achieved 6mb per second depending on the files, and Im currently using a 32gb class 10 which most of the time writes data at 12mb per second.
I hope this helps
I think the best would be those samsung or sandisk ultra class6 cards.
julianpaul said:
I think the best would be those samsung or sandisk ultra class6 cards.
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I'm using a Samsung 32gb class10 "high speed series" as marketed per Samsung, it works very well. But what works for me isn't always for everyone
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I just bought one of these a couple weeks ago, it was $29.95 free shipping but its still a great price and its getting consecutaively around 7-8mbps. I replaced my 32gb Sandisk class 4 with it... I had the $$ and figured why not.
http://www.adorama.com/IDSMUMSD32G....ate&utm_campaign=Other&utm_source=rflaid62905
Why don't you just bought class 10 SD card..?
How much the price different between class 4 and class 10 btw...?
I dont wanna start a you know what measuring contest here but . . .
Samsung "High Speed Series" I bought from ebay 38$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-32G...gital_Camera_Memory_Cards&hash=item2c61981fc1
10-12 mb's per second
Even though Samsung it's selling for 80$ direct from manufcaturer, heres the specs link from their site
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MSBGA/US-specs
OK!!! Thanks
dhani88_TotallyNooob said:
Why don't you just bought class 10 SD card..?
How much the price different between class 4 and class 10 btw...?
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There was some other thread around where people found that class10 cards had higher latency and slower access times than the class4 ones. So they're not really suited for mobile phones where quick data access is more important than high transfer rates.
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There was some other thread around where people found that class10 cards had higher latency and slower access times than the class4 ones. So they're not really suited for mobile phones where quick data access is more important than high transfer rates.
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I still believe storage size has a greater effect on access time then the class rating, classes are read/write speeds but more space takes longer time to read. The class itself being suitable, depends more upon the manufacturer of the sd card, and the manufacturer of the device and the device its being used in. A 4gb class10 is going to give you great performance in your device where as a 32gb class10 will indeed function a little slower but depends if you need all that space or not. I'm no expert but that has been my experience.
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I just bought one of these a couple weeks ago, it was $29.95 free shipping but its still a great price and its getting consecutaively around 7-8mbps. I replaced my 32gb Sandisk class 4 with it... I had the $$ and figured why not.
http://www.adorama.com/IDSMUMSD32G....ate&utm_campaign=Other&utm_source=rflaid62905
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Yeah, I have that card too and it's a big improvement from my prior 16GB class2 Sandisk card
I have my 32gb class 4 sandisk on my xperia. So far so good with games.
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I've got a sandisk 32 gb class 4 and I tried out my bros class 10 32 gb, can't remember what make it was but damn is that thing fast read/ write speeds are great and playing games is cherry pie
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Would it hurt an sd card to bump up the read/write speed beyond what the card is rated for?
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beez1717 said:
Would it hurt an sd card to bump up the read/write speed beyond what the card is rated for?
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It will decrease its "lifespan" but probably won't kill it, I think the apps2sd script bumps things up drastically and I didn't have any troubles for the while I was using it, but the SD card manufacturer and its class might have some effects on the bumped up lifespan .. probably good to at least make sure you have a spare!
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I indeed have a spare one that I am using in my OG droid. Lol. I use that phone as an ipod touch like device. Too bad I don't have a sim card because I'm on cdma. If I were, then I could use my OG droid when I want to use a slimmer phone that has a physical keyboard. However, SwiftKey has me not missing my physical keyboard.
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