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[Q] Phone junked up after flashing Myn's RLS 5

Don't get me wrong, I love Myn's ROM and this thread is in no way a "lets derail Myn from his glory thread."
For one, my android system is running at 96% and I have absolutely no idea why. I flashed Calkulins new radio pack about 3 weeks ago along with his ROM and had no problems at all. I then switched to MIUI for awhile while I was waiting for RLS 5 to come out and since flashing RLS 5 I have had this problem and can't get rid of it. It doesn't matter what kernel I use, I still have upwards of 90% android system usage of the battery. I would like to figure this out or I may have to switch roms.
Another thing,
For some reason, after I just recently flashed to Myns RLS 5 Pandora sounds like it is playing out of a tin can. I have the higher quality settings turned on and it still sounds like crap, way worse than it did on any previous ROM. I'm wondering how I can fix this?
These problems are really starting to irritate me and I would very much love it if someone would help me out here.
Thanks

jhoffy22 said:
Don't get me wrong, I love Myn's ROM and this thread is in no way a "lets derail Myn from his glory thread."
For one, my android system is running at 96% and I have absolutely no idea why. I flashed Calkulins new radio pack about 3 weeks ago along with his ROM and had no problems at all. I then switched to MIUI for awhile while I was waiting for RLS 5 to come out and since flashing RLS 5 I have had this problem and can't get rid of it. It doesn't matter what kernel I use, I still have upwards of 90% android system usage of the battery. I would like to figure this out or I may have to switch roms.
Another thing,
For some reason, after I just recently flashed to Myns RLS 5 Pandora sounds like it is playing out of a tin can. I have the higher quality settings turned on and it still sounds like crap, way worse than it did on any previous ROM. I'm wondering how I can fix this?
These problems are really starting to irritate me and I would very much love it if someone would help me out here.
Thanks
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I have had the same issue with the android system taking up 90% + or my battery as well and it started after I flashed Myn's RLS5. Here is my post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908167
I just posted this with pics. Also I went under network usage in spare parts and it seems that "0" is taking up all the usage and dont know why?

Adam1422 said:
I have had the same issue with the android system taking up 90% + or my battery as well and it started after I flashed Myn's RLS5. Here is my post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908167
I just posted this with pics. Also I went under network usage in spare parts and it seems that "0" is taking up all the usage and dont know why?
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Do you have the newest radio upgrades and everything? Does Pandora sounds terrible as well?

jhoffy22 said:
Do you have the newest radio upgrades and everything? Does Pandora sounds terrible as well?
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I have all the latest updates for radios and Pandora sounds fine!

i've heard that flashing the entire update (radios, wimax, pri, nv)
causes the uptime on a lot of roms. i think your best bet would be flash the 1.77 PRI in calkulins thread. ive kept 1.77 pri and NV and my phone is just fine running myns RLS5 right now as a matter of fact. good luck hope this helps man.

xxassassinxx said:
i've heard that flashing the entire update (radios, wimax, pri, nv)
causes the uptime on a lot of roms. i think your best bet would be flash the 1.77 PRI in calkulins thread. ive kept 1.77 pri and NV and my phone is just fine running myns RLS5 right now as a matter of fact. good luck hope this helps man.
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Im not having any up time issues. My phone sleeps just fine, its the android system that is taking up over 90% + or my batery usage and its made my battery life crap.

Hmm...that's odd...I flashed the rom via Rom Manager, did a few optional updates with it, and the only thing I had to do was flash the 132 radio, my phone great, no FC, nothing.....Hell, I should take this phone into the local sprint store to show them how the SHOULD RUN!

hmmm well this is my solution and it come straight from netarchy in his thread
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
and ultimately thats really what it sounds like man, flash a different kernal if you really feel the need to do something besides a PRI downgrade, but i firmly believe that myns RLS5 is just fine.
try downgrading the PRI and NV then post back worse case scenario you have to upgrade again and that takes a whopping 5 minutes

xxassassinxx said:
hmmm well this is my solution and it come straight from netarchy in his thread
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
and ultimately thats really what it sounds like man, flash a different kernal if you really feel the need to do something besides a PRI downgrade, but i firmly believe that myns RLS5 is just fine.
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My big thing is that my phone is sleeping just fine. If you look at the second post and click on the link you will see screen shots of my up time and awake time which is like:
up time is like 46 hrs or some **** and awake time is like 6 hrs. So my problem is that the "Android System" is taking up 90% + of my battery use. I generally get a little over a day of lite to moderate use out of my battery but since I flashed rls5 its only been like 7 - 12 hrs(not that I am complaining) but I would just like to figure this out. Also some thing else I noticed was that in the spare parts app under network usage the top selection is "0" and when I click on it it just says "process com.android.settings has stopped unexpectedly. and please try again?

could this be related to the gingerbread menu upgrade? I have that flashed. Do you or have you ever?
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i read your post, have you tried downgrading yet. im almost guaranteeing it will improve battery life the new 1.90 updates dont play well with a lot of roms causing ridiculous battery drain. now regardless if it shows its from the android system/networking problem or not im not knowledgeable enough to answer that, but my android system runs at 19% running myns rls5 and the 1.77 PRI and NV updates just saying..you might really want to consider just TRYING it ya know?
jhoffy22 said:
could this be related to the gingerbread menu upgrade? I have that flashed. Do you or have you ever?
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um its possible like i said somebody more knowledgeable will have to answer that but I'm pretty sure he will be ok if he downgrades PRI and NV. its not like its difficult or anything

jhoffy22 said:
could this be related to the gingerbread menu upgrade? I have that flashed. Do you or have you ever?
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I dont, or ever have. :-(

Adam1422 said:
I dont, or ever have. :-(
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i think i figured out your problem, its your kernal. i just flashed the same kernal as you and now currently have 90% android system and have horrid battery. flash a new kernal. or keep the one from myns install it seems to have better life than netarchy's
Edit: just saw your sig, dont you know sbc is bad for your battery go read up man save it!
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904577
REedit: just checked battery stats again my android system lowered back to 32% still not what i had originally with myns stock installed kernal from rls5

xxassassinxx said:
i think i figured out your problem, its your kernal. i just flashed the same kernal as you and now currently have 90% android system and have horrid battery. flash a new kernal. or keep the one from myns install it seems to have better life than netarchy's
Edit: just saw your sig, dont you know sbc is bad for your battery go read up man save it!
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904577
REedit: just checked battery stats again my android system lowered back to 32% still not what i had originally with myns stock installed kernal from rls5
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I love the SBC kernels and have read almost every post about them frying batterys. So I ordered a 3500 and am waiting for it to get here and then I will switch kernels. What is the stock kernel that is running with rls5? HTC kernel 15? Thanks for doing the testing. I have 4 kids and got pulled away for awhile. I think I am going to flash the stock kernel for rls5. Do you think I should still downgrade my PRI? I also hit the thanks button. I really appreciate the time you took to figure this out!

Let me just chime in here to shed a little light and knowledge.
Your problem is 3.70 base Rom. It's not a sleep issue. Probably won't be solved by changing kernels. Doesn't look like bad battery life since the phone had not been charged for 42 hours, that's almost 2 days.
If you ask me you have what most ppl are looking to get, which is a full day of use and more. Now correct me if I am wrong but how is going 2 days with out charging a bad thing???
The android system high %'s is a 3.70 issue which has affected a lot of ppl on the forum. The issue has several remedies but the easiest is to just reboot directly after charging the phone. Some ppl have said changing the pri back to 1.77 solved the issue, others have said updating their radio solved the issue.
Please give me a little bit more information so I can research more in depth for you...
Edit: Also let me state the facts here, please don't discredit someone else's work by saying a certain kernel,Rom, theme or recovery will damage a device. The sbc was a variable in ppl batteries being damaged and no one has proven that the kernel has indeed damaged their phone. Only here say...
I don't know if sbc is good or bad as the team I am working with are still in the testing stages with no clear answer, which probably won't come for months.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

craigbailey1986 said:
Let me just chime in here to shed a little light and knowledge.
Your problem is 3.70 base Rom. It's not a sleep issue. Probably won't be solved by changing kernels. Doesn't look like bad battery life since the phone had not been charged for 42 hours, that's almost 2 days.
If you ask me you have what most ppl are looking to get, which is a full day of use and more. Now correct me if I am wrong but how is going 2 days with out charging a bad thing???
The android system high %'s is a 3.70 issue which has affected a lot of ppl on the forum. The issue has several remedies but the easiest is to just reboot directly after charging the phone. Some ppl have said changing the pri back to 1.77 solved the issue, others have said updating their radio solved the issue.
Please give me a little bit more information so I can research more in depth for you...
Edit: Also let me state the facts here, please don't discredit someone else's work by saying a certain kernel,Rom, theme or recovery will damage a device. The sbc was a variable in ppl batteries being damaged and no one has proven that the kernel has indeed damaged their phone. Only here say...
I don't know if sbc is good or bad as the team I am working with are still in the testing stages with no clear answer, which probably won't come for months.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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Here is a link to my original post with screen shots.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908167
I honestly love the sbc kernels so I am showing no disrespect to the dev that put these together. My phone also loves the net kernels so Im not going to change at this point. Once you look at my screen shots from my post you will see that my battery only lasted 7 1/2 hours with lite to moderate use. Also there is another screen shot with the awake time and sleep time. One of they other things I noticed was that in the spare parts app under network usage the "thing" that has the highest usage is "0" and when I long press it to see what it is it just force closes. If you see my signature then you know what I am running.
Myn's rls5
all updated radios
nets 4.3.1 sbc more havs kernel
Please let me know if there is any other information you need that will help you dig in. I am off to bed, as I have 4 kids that have endless energy (boy if we could just bottle there energy and sell it as an energy drink...rich!), I will check back in the morning. Thanks for all your help in advance!

There is definately a problem with the rom released 1-7-11.
It will not allow installation of google usb tether program and the file explorer always seems to be working (spinning graphic). I do not think the previous rom had this problem but I can not be sure. Tried other non myn roms w/o problem, retried myn's and reconfirmed that there is a problem.
It seems that he changed a few things and had some sort of side effect.
Somebody should try running ps, ps -aux or top from a bash terminal to see what is really running. A look at the error log would not hurt either.

Interesting that you couldn't install that. I'm not sure why. The spinning I believe you are referring to is where ads would be. Myn added adblock to the role rls5. Most apps with ads (astro,xda, alchemy, etc) will display the loading circle instead. You can remove adblock. Just search the threads.
conductive said:
There is definately a problem with the rom released 1-7-11.
It will not allow installation of google usb tether program and the file explorer always seems to be working (spinning graphic). I do not think the previous rom had this problem but I can not be sure. Tried other non myn roms w/o problem, retried myn's and reconfirmed that there is a problem.
It seems that he changed a few things and had some sort of side effect.
Somebody should try running ps, ps -aux or top from a bash terminal to see what is really running. A look at the error log would not hurt either.
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Adam1422 said:
Here is a link to my original post with screen shots.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908167
I honestly love the sbc kernels so I am showing no disrespect to the dev that put these together. My phone also loves the net kernels so Im not going to change at this point. Once you look at my screen shots from my post you will see that my battery only lasted 7 1/2 hours with lite to moderate use. Also there is another screen shot with the awake time and sleep time. One of they other things I noticed was that in the spare parts app under network usage the "thing" that has the highest usage is "0" and when I long press it to see what it is it just force closes. If you see my signature then you know what I am running.
Myn's rls5
all updated radios
nets 4.3.1 sbc more havs kernel
Please let me know if there is any other information you need that will help you dig in. I am off to bed, as I have 4 kids that have endless energy (boy if we could just bottle there energy and sell it as an energy drink...rich!), I will check back in the morning. Thanks for all your help in advance!
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Have you tried the reboot right after charging? Also I read some where to go into airplane mode and then turn everything back on. Also when all else fail, not sure how you got to myn's but for the sake of safety do a fresh install of it with a wipe on everything. May also want to try caulk's format all zip.
Try the reboot then see, if that fails fresh install and then see.. let me know each time...
The 0 in spare parts in the android OS and it force close on everyone. Don't be alarmed by that.
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I had the horrid battery life after upgrading to Myn's latest and the treo update radio pack. Downgrading my PRI didn't fix it. It was the kernel. I was having random browser fc also.
Went back to HTC #17 kernel and all is well. Try swapping just your kernel.

Issues with the Official MIUI rom

I just starting to adjust to the new feel of it. but it keeps restarting my phone over and over. once every 30 mins. even if I'm in the middle of a phone call.
I'm happy as hell i didn't miss my call for the interview i have tomorrow.
anyway to fix this issue. started happening after i had to flash the file that helps fix the FC of the SMS/MMS popup

Make sure you have wifi sleep policy set to never.
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it still restarted. just did 10 seconds ago lol

Change your kernel.

Did you try the EVO MIUI devs at forums.miui-dev.com?

Holyrolla said:
Did you try the EVO MIUI devs at forums.miui-dev.com?
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yes i did that one. im on the kernal is came with cause idk which kernal i should use.

There are two usual culprits:
1.You need to set wifi sleep policy to NEVER (as sultan of swing mentioned), or
2. incomplete wipe. You need to fully wipe data,.cache, dalvik cache before installing MIUI, especially coming from a Sense rom. Search this forum for the format-all.zip file. Flash it in recovery for the full wipe. Then flash rom.

bigmoogle said:
There are two usual culprits:
1.You need to set wifi sleep policy to NEVER (as sultan of swing mentioned), or
2. incomplete wipe. You need to fully wipe data,.cache, dalvik cache before installing MIUI, especially coming from a Sense rom. Search this forum for the format-all.zip file. Flash it in recovery for the full wipe. Then flash rom.
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i did set it to never. and i actually used a format-all.zip file.

kyhassen said:
i did set it to never. and i actually used a format-all.zip file.
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Try a different kernel.

kyhassen said:
I just starting to adjust to the new feel of it. but it keeps restarting my phone over and over. once every 30 mins. even if I'm in the middle of a phone call.
I'm happy as hell i didn't miss my call for the interview i have tomorrow.
anyway to fix this issue. started happening after i had to flash the file that helps fix the FC of the SMS/MMS popup
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hmmm...it would help if I read more carefully. I never flashed that zip file.
But if I were expecting an important call, I'd switch to a rom I could trust - probably a sense rom like Fresh or MikWhatever. And I say this as MIUI fan woman

im liking the rom so far. sad part is im a sense fan. this isn't what i wanted, but after playing around with this rom for 2 hours i liked it a lot and the stuff u can do.
i already can tell this is faster than a sense rom. 1 of the games i played on the sense roms lagged a little. but i dont get as much lag in the MIUI rom.

sultan.of.swing said:
Try a different kernel.
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This. Do this.
I was so frustrated with MUIU until I changed kernals. Now it's great.

I am running Savage 1.6 CFS-HAVS-WIMAX-SBC.
I have not had any reboots and when I pulled off the charger today I stayed at 100% for over 2 hrs.

Having issues finding a kernal now for some reason.
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sultan.of.swing said:
I am running Savage 1.6 CFS-HAVS-WIMAX-SBC.
I have not had any reboots and when I pulled off the charger today I stayed at 100% for over 2 hrs.
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I find Savage 1.6 works best for me but every Evo is different. Other people swear by Zen-Droid which only bootloops my phone. bcnice-stable (v7 or v8) is another popular kernel (laggy for me). The safest (?) one seems to be cm6-Snap 7.6 (don't use SnapTurbo) - everything seems to work this snap.

ok thank you bigmoogle. is this the one you were talking about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883455&highlight=Savage
also which do i use the CFS or the BFS. i dont quiet understand the difference between the two.

kyhassen said:
ok thank you bigmoogle. is this the one you were talking about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883455&highlight=Savage
also which do i use the CFS or the BFS. i dont quiet understand the difference between the two.
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Yep, that's the kernel. As to which to use, I am definitely NOT the person to ask. In the beginning, kernels were pretty.simple but as time went by, they've collected more and more acronyms. I use Savage 1.6 CFS HAVS. I think it has SBC because the other one is named noSBC.

Bonsai 4 user support

Well I guess the thread is closed again in developement. So hoping those with issues and new insights will post here so we can support each other.

LOL, good call man. At least we can start with a clean slate.
kennyglass123 said:
Well I guess the thread is closed again in developement. So hoping those with issues and new insights will post here so we can support each other.
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So to clutter the support thread but,
How is everyone like 4.0.1, i love it and wasn't a fan of that clock mod so i flashed the clock fix, i also have emotionless beast and i'm loving Bonsai so noticeably faster then 4.0.0

davidrules7778 said:
So to clutter the support thread but,
How is everyone like 4.0.1, i love it and wasn't a fan of that clock mod so i flashed the clock fix, i also have emotionless beast and i'm loving Bonsai so noticeably faster then 4.0.0
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Ha! Me too, so use to having the clock in that corner. Definitely love 4.0.1, fast and stable! Sound quality is noticeably better from Pandora.
Oh...and clutter away. Since we can't post in the development section anymore.

kennyglass123 said:
Ha! Me too, so use to having the clock in that corner. Definitely love 4.0.1, fast and stable! Sound quality is noticeably better from Pandora.
Oh...and clutter away. Since we can't post in the development section anymore.
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We could always resurrect the old Bonsai thread-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869295&page=491

kennyglass123 said:
Well I guess the thread is closed again in developement. So hoping those with issues and new insights will post here so we can support each other.
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Bonsai 4.0.1 and vision 1.1 kernel @1.4Ghz.......awesome....do it...do it now!!!
12+ hours and rocking smooth fast and under 100°f while charging.(most of the time)
If you already know your phone can't handle 1.3-1.4Ghz, don't bother trying this.

mattallica76 said:
We could always resurrect the old Bonsai thread-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869295&page=491
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Yeah, that's what happened with the first lockout. I think since we are down to user and contributor support, Q&A might be the best place for this.

Hey,
I'm having some issues being stuck @ the Samsung screen.
Here are the steps taken in flashing:
1. Updated to stock ota EC05
2. Root phone
3. Update CWM3 to .5
4. 3 finger reboot to allow ext4 update
5. flash rom
Where am I messing up?

igoth76 said:
Hey,
I'm having some issues being stuck @ the Samsung screen.
Here are the steps taken in flashing:
1. Updated to stock ota EC05
2. Root phone
3. Update CWM3 to .5
4. 3 finger reboot to allow ext4 update
5. flash rom
Where am I messing up?
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I know it works best with CWM 3.0.0.6. Odin to EB13 prerooted with CWM 3.0.0.6 and then flash Bonsai, and then update the modem to ec05. Here is the link to the EB13 prerooted file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853209

igoth76 said:
Hey,
I'm having some issues being stuck @ the Samsung screen.
Here are the steps taken in flashing:
1. Updated to stock ota EC05
2. Root phone
3. Update CWM3 to .5
4. 3 finger reboot to allow ext4 update
5. flash rom
Where am I messing up?
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Are you wiping EVERYTHING 3x? I wasn't used to it, but doing that has made flashing almost flawless for me from ROM to ROM.

Hmmm...a quiet day on the Bonsai front.
BONSAI 4 and loving it!

**** just works... It's beast LOL.
kennyglass123 said:
Hmmm...a quiet day on the Bonsai front.
BONSAI 4 and loving it!
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p3dr0maz said:
**** just works... It's beast LOL.
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Every time I check my phone, it is like Angels sing!
Oh wait I think that is a ringtone

Loving my little tree device, thanks team Bonsai
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Besides Voodoo color what can we expect to see in Bonsai 4.0.2? Using the update instead of full install I didn't see any bugs but some others did so I figure 4.0.2 will have to be a full install.

I tried ACS 1.1 for the 1.4 OC... I basically had to keep the cover off with all the battery pulls.
Now back to Bonasai 4 and just no problems.

badbeats said:
I tried ACS 1.1 for the 1.4 OC... I basically had to keep the cover off with all the battery pulls.
Now back to Bonasai 4 and just no problems.
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Most phones and setups have trouble at 1.4Ghz, some are OK at 1.3 Ghz but most stable is 1.2Ghz Overclock....welcome back!

kennyglass123 said:
Most phones and setups have trouble at 1.4Ghz, some are OK at 1.3 Ghz but most stable is 1.2Ghz Overclock....welcome back!
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This. And you must mean VisionKernel. Twilight Zone 1.1.0, which is included in SRF1.1.0, only goes to 1.3ghz.

Bonsai 4.0.1 is out for the general public. 4.1.0 is heading into donor beta soon.

4.1.0 beta is out for Early Access donor beta testing. Post your issues here or there.
Flash right over 4.0.x

Question about a kernel (cant post in the development forums)

ok Per the "noob video" i called my mom and told her that she wasnt lying to me when she told me i was not special, but I do have a problem with this kernal let me explain
1. Which kernel build(s) (ie; bfs/cfs havs/nohavs etc) are you using with the issue?
2. What Rom are you using?
3. If known, what OTA base is your rom using (ie; is it based on 3.29, 3.30, 3.70, etc)?
4. Does the issue persist if you go back to a stable kernel build?
5. The issue being experienced (obviously ;D)
1. netarchy-toastmod-cfs-havs-nosbc-universal 4.3.1
2. Cyanogen 7
3. unknown
4. cant get back to a stable kernel
5. I am seeing pixilated lines on key pressed and slides. What I mean is when I press an icon or slide my phone or look at my battery charging it will distort a minor annoyance. Also my usb connection is no longer working it will not let me toggle between charge and disk drive

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't netarchy a kernel for a sense rom and not an aosp?
Edit - just double checked, its for a sense based rom only..
If using cm7, I would suggest tiamat or savaged zen..

you cant use that kernel with CM7. flash tiamat 4.0.5 or any other AOSP kernel. NA kernels are for sense ROMS only.
Your mom did tell you correctly because this did not belong in the dev section.

That kernel is for sense not aosp.
Use tiamat or Savaged zen or "God mode"

OH WOW Guess that is why lol. I thought I read it to say it was usable by many roms. So just flash the stock kernel and use one of the ones echarette1, and mattykinsx posted. Thanks you 2 for telling me that i messed that up.
And alaman68 I thought since it was related to that kernel I coul have posted in that kernels thread. Guessed wrong.

Valkiryn said:
And alaman68 I thought since it was related to that kernel I coul have posted in that kernels thread. Guessed wrong.
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It would have been appropriate to post IN the kernel thread but not a new thread.
I'm NOT trying to join the backseat moderatoring wagon, just letting you know.

mattykinsx said:
It would have been appropriate to post IN the kernel thread but not a new thread.
I'm NOT trying to join the backseat moderatoring wagon, just letting you know.
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Oh no trust me I would not have started a brand new thread I would have tacked it on to the thread that contains the kernel and the information. I am not a forums noob and know that much. And I did not take your letting me know as a "better than you" context, but just wanted to tell why I thought posting in that thread would have been better. Nothing mean intended by you or me just helping in how to keep the board clean you were.
Now on to another question. Currently my Evo is giving me a battery life of ~5 hours before I hit ~15% and being in a job where I am constantly using my phone I can not afford to be attached to a charger for 3 hours a day. I was told by a friend that using kernels will help with battery life. If this is the case out of the ones I was told to use what would be better in terms of extending the life of my daily battery, if that is something they can in fact do?

If you're running CM7, use the Tiamat or SavagedZen kernel, hit the link in my signature for some good tips on battery conditioning and links to better battery guides.

Thank you to everyone who helped me figure out what I did wrong and thank you HipKat for that link going to read it now

Deck vs Vaelpak GB ROMs

I have seen a number of threads comparing and analyzing the different ROMs. I have extensively used two of the leading contenders for "best GB ROM" - Deck's GB ROM (1.2 stable released yesterday) and Vaelpak 0.2.1 (released a few days ago). Here is a list of pros and cons that I noticed - I may have missed some so please jump in and add to the list in this thread. Maybe we can put together a comprehensive list of differences (knowing, of course, that it is always a moving target).
Please note that I ran both ROMs with Tiamat 4.0.5-sbc kernel. Results may be different with different kernels.
Also, by no means am I saying that these are the best ROMs out there. These are just the two that I have extensively used and can therefore compare/contrast first hand.
So here goes ...
Deck's GB ROM v1.2
1. Minimalist and lightweight ROM - default Android Launcher.
2. Minimalist themes, no special wallpapers, fonts, icons, etc.
3. GPS works out of the box (was a problem with earlier versions of the ROM).
4. Wifi, BT and 4G work without issues, except ...
5. Wireless tethering works, but sometimes stops playing well with 4G. i.e. you will be tethered, and even with 4G on you will be getting 3G speeds. This is not consistent behavior - sometimes tethering works great with 4G.
6. I have not experienced any wakelock issues.
7. About 10% more battery life with Tiamat kernal than Vaelpak.
8. ROM is very stable - very few app FCs, practically no reboots.
9. Netflix works.
Vaelpak 0.2.1
1. Comes packaged with Go Launcher.
2. More inbuilt themes, wallpapers, fonts, widgets.
3. GPS, Wifi, BT, 4G and tethering work without any issues.
4. Less stable than Deck's ROM (Note - the developer does explicitly state that this is a work-in-progress, so things should improve on this front). There are some random reboots, wakelock issues.
5. Comes packaged with CPU profiles and undervolting scripts. You can underclock/overclock and undervolt without SetCPU or vipermod scripts. A big plus. (Note - it is possible to do all of this on Deck's ROM, just needs a few additional steps by the user).
6. Comes packaged with DT apps2sd. Again, a big convenience removing the need to do this manually.
7. Packaged email app does not support "Select All". Had to point this out since it is a rather big negative for me. (Note - this is in the dev's list of planned enhancements).
8. No packaged FM radio app.
9. Netflix works.
So in essence, as of today the Deck ROM is more stable and "safer", but Vaelpak has enough packed in features to make it quite formidable.

Default launcher in Decks is ADW (free), I believe.

Prugor said:
Default launcher in Decks is ADW (free), I believe.
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The default launcher in Decks is Launcher 2.
I tried out Vaelpack preview last week and it was really nice but lacks a few things i enjoy. Deck as striped the rom to the point that you have to install a lot more then desired. Both are great roms hand down. I'm just going to wait for VP to get a more stable beta going and once he adds the theme chooser i might just jump ship

i would have to say deck because he updates his thread alot and always adds new things.
im not 100% on this but when was the last time Vaelek put out a new rom or updates his previous work?

Joey_UFC said:
i would have to say deck because he updates his thread alot and always adds new things.
im not 100% on this but when was the last time Vaelek put out a new rom or updates his previous work?
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Actually Vaelek's GB ROM (Vaelpak4 v0.2) was released on May 31, and v0.2.1 was released June 20. He is also very active on his forum, and maintains a public list of items/fixes that he is currently working on. Very informative, and will give you a great picture of what is coming soon.

Having not used either, but being familiar with both Dev's ROMs, I can say right now Decks, because it's been out longer and had more testing, etc.
I didn't know Vaelpak was putting a GB ROM together, but I promise you, when he get's it finalized, it will be amazing.
His Senseless ROM was a daily driver for me for a long time. Every detail gets paid attention to in his ROMs.

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Actually Vaelek's GB ROM (Vaelpak4 v0.2) was released on May 31, and v0.2.1 was released June 20. He is also very active on his forum, and maintains a public list of items/fixes that he is currently working on. Very informative, and will give you a great picture of what is coming soon.
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on XDA?
10char

HipKat said:
Having not used either, but being familiar with both Dev's ROMs, I can say right now Decks, because it's been out longer and had more testing, etc.
I didn't know Vaelpak was putting a GB ROM together, but I promise you, when he get's it finalized, it will be amazing.
His Senseless ROM was a daily driver for me for a long time. Every detail gets paid attention to in his ROMs.
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i would have to agree with this but i was more of a KushDeck user for a long time lol
I tried 1 of Vaeleks roms and i can't think of any issues but it was a long time ago.

Joey_UFC said:
on XDA?
10char
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http://vaelek.com/index.php?/forum/47-vaelpak-gingerbread-aosp/

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http://vaelek.com/index.php?/forum/47-vaelpak-gingerbread-aosp/
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thats why i haven't seen it. he is no longer posting on xda

VP hands down

many vpgb .2.1 preview (not even beta yet) users like myself, who read and ask for solutions find them simply and as a result find this current version of the preview to be very stable and very quick, plus it looks great. i can't wait til it actually hits the beta stage because right now it is more final than a lot of final roms i've used.
ropodope

Vaelpak! Any arguments that the developer hasn't updated or anything like that are mostly incorrect. He just hasn't updated anything on XDA, because he's not on XDA anymore. He runs his own site and his own forum, and he's very active there.
Heck, try them both for a few days and see which YOU like best. They're free.

you didn't? any look at his official forum would have told you this some time ago. come on over, get involved. http://www.vaelek.com
ropodope

SilverZero said:
Vaelpak! Any arguments that the developer hasn't updated or anything like that are mostly incorrect. He just hasn't updated anything on XDA, because he's not on XDA anymore. He runs his own site and his own forum, and he's very active there.
Heck, try them both for a few days and see which YOU like best. They're free.
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yeah i didn't know that. because xda has a community of 4 million people. virus and other devs have their own sites but still post on here. so i thought if your not on xda then your not doing work anymore lol obviously i was wrong.
i will try out Vaelek new work when i get the chance. im loving the alliance rom right now

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you didn't? any look at his official forum would have told you this some time ago. come on over, get involved. http://www.vaelek.com
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but will i get infected

I used Deck's for a while and later switched to Vaelpak's. I like Vaelpak's much more because of its features and community. Even though it's in its preview stage, it is VERY stable. The community is so responsive and helpful. Another thing is that Deck finished his ROM, Vaelpak started just like 2 months ago and already has a beast of a ROM.

Just to chime in here...
XDA does have a massive user base yes. But with that, comes a massive idiot base, over-inflated egos, and too many people that can't be bothered to read an OP in its entirety.. I do come back to post here when there is something worth posting about. The users at my forum are MUCH more well mannered and helpful overall. If you want to be told to search, RTFM, stop being a noob, read through 300 pages to find the answer, then XDA is the place to be. The main reason there is no post for my GB preview here is because as of right now there is no public source available and I don't need the XDA police breathing down my neck or editing my posts because of it.
On another note, thanks for the props to those that have been giving them to my preview

VP is the best. Jim you are the best in my book

vaelek said:
Just to chime in here...
XDA does have a massive user base yes. But with that, comes a massive idiot base, over-inflated egos, and too many people that can't be bothered to read an OP in its entirety.. I do come back to post here when there is something worth posting about. The users at my forum are MUCH more well mannered and helpful overall. If you want to be told to search, RTFM, stop being a noob, read through 300 pages to find the answer, then XDA is the place to be. The main reason there is no post for my GB preview here is because as of right now there is no public source available and I don't need the XDA police breathing down my neck or editing my posts because of it.
On another note, thanks for the props to those that have been giving them to my preview
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THIS
Head over to Vaelek's forums if there was doubt in if his work is supported and ongoing. Extremely responsive on his forums, you would be hard pressed to find any lengthy span of days where Vaelek hasn't answered questions or posted fixes to issues brought up in the forums on his site. The guy is machine constantly helping out his user base.
Now for the roms, I actually originally suggested to vaelek using Decks rom as base for his work (but there is no public source). Decks rom is great but the added features and amazing dev support is what keeps me going back to Vaelpak roms.