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How is the music quality compared to the fassy. I know it had a top quality headphone amp (for a phone). Can the incredible 2 compare?
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duuurp said:
How is the music quality compared to the fassy. I know it had a top quality headphone amp (for a phone). Can the incredible 2 compare?
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I know this annoying that the first response doesn't know the answer (although I would love to hear some opinions - I'll miss Voodoo Sound, unless there is an HTC equivalent)
Anybody former Fascinate owners want to give a quick rundown of what to expect? I just started researching and reading, but still not quite sure I get the rooting process on HTC and why 2.3.3 cannot be rooted....I'm not even sure if I have that part right.

I think I can answer that question. Gingerbread added some security patches and fixed the hole which was used to root the phone.
The droid x is the same way now. Originally it could be rooted but now no longer.
It's likely someone will develop a method though it may take some time. You can always try the hardware method xrc Inc I think.
I just ordered my replacement today and have been doing some reading haha...
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To answer your question...
NO, you can't really compare the Inc2 to the Fascinate, the loudspeaker in the inc2 sucks big time, is not good, the music app is great and i think is better than the fascinate, but as far as the hardware speaker, no, is not as good.

I don't think he was referring to just the hardware speaker, I think he meant the audio output in general, but especially when using headphones. Not having ever used a fascinate I can't compare, but I'd recommend trying DSPmanager to tweak the EQ and audio settings.

The stock inc2 sounds decent. Nothing compared to voodoo sound. Nothing. But its not to bad once you get used to it.
Bob
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Thanks bob. I was afraid of that. I'll still probably switch but there are definitely things ill miss about my fassy.
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If you are using headphones and are using HTC's default music player with SRS support turned on, it sounds amazing. As others have said, the speaker sucks big time. I have the ringer volume turned all the way up and still miss about half of the notifications. I had a D1 before this, and the speaker on that thing was incredible (no pun intended), and the Inc2 is sad in comparison. Can't compare to the fascinate, but I'd have to imagine just about anything short of a cup and wire would be better.

Bluetooth headphones problem

I got Bluetooth headphones for my birthday and I hooked it up to my Samsung captivate and I noticed a problem... it keep stopping and going the ferther away they got from the phone it was fustrating :banghead:
so I paired then to my dad's phone (iPhone 4) they worked fine I can go to my parents room across. The house and they wouldn't what the captivate. Is there anyway to fixed this
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PS they are $100 jaybird freedom's
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I think it's simply a limitation of the phone. Mine current headset doesn't reach very far either, and neither did my previous headset. And that's with Android 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 and now 4.0.
But it's a small sampling of three headsets between the two of us.

I have noticed that on some roms I can go further than other roms with my bt headset. Are you using a custom rom? If so Try a different one. If not, root and try another rom.

Yes and I have came ROM CyanogenMod 9 it the best
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Try using a different headset. Gaming headsets are usually designed pretty well, but you will gain a lot more bulk with those. If you have a friend with a set, borrow them and try them out. If you test other sets and they all work the same you will know with some certainty that it is a limitation of the phone or a software issue.
My cappy does not get good range with a motorola headset and a sony over the ear headset. Typically I do not need 35 ft that is the standard so it has never bothered me.

[Q]Is there any way to downgrade to 4.2 or lower?

Hello everyone.
I have bought N7 2nd generation few days ago and I feel very uncomfortable with android 4.3.
Is there any solution for downgrade to 4.2 or lower?

No.
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lys2002123 said:
Hello everyone.
I have bought N7 2nd generation few days ago and I feel very uncomfortable with android 4.3.
Is there any solution for downgrade to 4.2 or lower?
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define uncomfortable
did you not know this tablet had 4.3 stock?

Midnight_Rider said:
define uncomfortable
did you not know this tablet had 4.3 stock?
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I have known..
But things what I have used don't support 4.3 and i didn't know that.

lys2002123 said:
I have known..
But things what I have used don't support 4.3 and i didn't know that.
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ahh yes that's true, there may be stuff out there that won't work on 4.3. Only thing i can say about that is to contact the dev and wait for an update to the app. i know that's not what you wanted to hear, sorry. other than that though how do you like it? i got mine a few days ago and its been fantastic, best android device i've ever owned

Midnight_Rider said:
ahh yes that's true, there may be stuff out there that won't work on 4.3. Only thing i can say about that is to contact the dev and wait for an update to the app. i know that's not what you wanted to hear, sorry. other than that though how do you like it? i got mine a few days ago and its been fantastic, best android device i've ever owned
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I am really content with my new android device nexus 7
But... i think stereo speaker isn't louder than I expected.
It seems to have similar volume level with another devices..
And headphone jack is too quiet for me.
It is pretty much quieter than my ex-device Samsung Galaxy S2.
Is that only problem of mine?

thats a good question, havent even tried the headphone jack yet, guess i will now

Midnight_Rider said:
thats a good question, havent even tried the headphone jack yet, guess i will now
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Good
How's yours? I think it is so quiet with high-impedance headphone.
I also think it maybe a problem of Android 4.3..

lys2002123 said:
I have known..
But things what I have used don't support 4.3 and i didn't know that.
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Hi:
What compatibility problems are you having with 4.3 vs 4.22--apps, hardware....
Tom

thenrik said:
Hi:
What compatibility problems are you having with 4.3 vs 4.22--apps, hardware....
Tom
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Some Korean apps... and sound mods like viper4android.
And i think 4.3's audio output is quieter than 4.2.
My N7 is sooo quiet, both headphones and speakers.
Low volume really makes me disappointed.

lys2002123 said:
Hello everyone.
I have bought N7 2nd generation few days ago and I feel very uncomfortable with android 4.3.
Is there any solution for downgrade to 4.2 or lower?
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Do you need a tampon?
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Brava27 said:
Do you need a tampon?
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Sorry

I think you would lose more than you would gain
Newer devices have advances that play well with the newer OS systems that are available so in my view retro versions may not work as well with some of the more advanced designs in the device thingy.
That said I feel the volume is plenty loud and in fact sounds really good. This is without a doubt the best 7" tablet available at this time. The Nexus 10 is the best 10" tablet available at this time, yes better than the apple products. The audio is better and the screens are better and you can set it up as you please a more mature attitude from the manufacturer if you will. Less hand holding, less paternalistic access to your device.
I bought mine at Office Max with the 20% discount, I felt that the price was almost unbelievable and was surprised when they had some left in stock.
I would like more memory 64GB would be nice but I rooted it and use stick mount to run videos and move files.

lys2002123 said:
Some Korean apps... and sound mods like viper4android.
And i think 4.3's audio output is quieter than 4.2.
My N7 is sooo quiet, both headphones and speakers.
Low volume really makes me disappointed.
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Hi:
You might want to try these JBL Bluetooth speakers--they are loud:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009AYLDSU/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
As for Korean apps, you might try backing up the apk files and installing them. I know that Google says many of my Chinese apps are incompatible but they all work. Worth a try.
Let us know if you find a work around with bluetooth headphones, apps or anything else that works. It's going to be a rocky road with Bluetooth and 4.3. Many Bluetooth keyboards and some headphones don't work with 4.3. I'm reluctant to order anything Bluetooth without confirmation from others that it works with 4.3
I ordered some LG Bluetooth headphones in June. They worked with the Nexus 7 2012 but only played 1/4 volume on my Galaxy S3 so I returned them.
Keep us posted.
Tom

My sound on the headphones is good/decent. At about 1/2 volume is comfortable to me.
I'm not much of an audiophile so I don't know how impedance effects the volume. It's not extremely loud at max volume, though. I'd probably still be able to hear my music while on the lawn mower or on my motorbike but not sure about a jet plane ^^
Speakers at max volume is fine for a quiet room, but outside it probably won't be very loud.
Hope this helped some.
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I'm reluctant to order anything Bluetooth without confirmation from others that it works with 4.3
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Just confirming that my bluetooth keyboard (made by Anker for ~$25 on Amazon) works.
I just paired it and this is the first thing I've typed. Seems to do well. I can even alt-tab to other stuff running. Sweet.
Also just connected my bluetooth apple mightymouse (or whatever they're called) and that's working as well (at the same time as the keyboard)
Maybe someone will see this and find it helpful =)
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ongre12 said:
Newer devices have advances that play well with the newer OS systems that are available so in my view retro versions may not work as well with some of the more advanced designs in the device thingy.
That said I feel the volume is plenty loud and in fact sounds really good. This is without a doubt the best 7" tablet available at this time. The Nexus 10 is the best 10" tablet available at this time, yes better than the apple products. The audio is better and the screens are better and you can set it up as you please a more mature attitude from the manufacturer if you will. Less hand holding, less paternalistic access to your device.
I bought mine at Office Max with the 20% discount, I felt that the price was almost unbelievable and was surprised when they had some left in stock.
I would like more memory 64GB would be nice but I rooted it and use stick mount to run videos and move files.
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Thank you for your valueable opinion.
To me, I'm very satisfied with another features and there was no intend to diminish Google or Nexus.
And I'm very proud of having brand-new nexus which have the sharpest screen among the world.
What I want to say is Nexus 7's audio quality is quite good but volume is low, lower than how I expected.
Within my experience, commonly, tablets usually make more powerful sound than phone but my Nexus 7 doesn't.
It seems to have simmilar power with phones. I just feel sad about that.

thenrik said:
Hi:
You might want to try these JBL Bluetooth speakers--they are loud:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009AYLDSU/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
As for Korean apps, you might try backing up the apk files and installing them. I know that Google says many of my Chinese apps are incompatible but they all work. Worth a try.
Let us know if you find a work around with bluetooth headphones, apps or anything else that works. It's going to be a rocky road with Bluetooth and 4.3. Many Bluetooth keyboards and some headphones don't work with 4.3. I'm reluctant to order anything Bluetooth without confirmation from others that it works with 4.3
I ordered some LG Bluetooth headphones in June. They worked with the Nexus 7 2012 but only played 1/4 volume on my Galaxy S3 so I returned them.
Keep us posted.
Tom
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Thank you for attention.
Bluetooth is great and easy protocol for sharing small files or connect simple devices, but it is not so good for audio.
Nexus 7 doesn't support apt-x, so bluetooth will impair Nexus 7's quite good quality sound.
At this time I have no bluetooth device so I cannnot find which one works, which one doesn't.
Sorry for bad answer.

nachtfrost said:
My sound on the headphones is good/decent. At about 1/2 volume is comfortable to me.
I'm not much of an audiophile so I don't know how impedance effects the volume. It's not extremely loud at max volume, though. I'd probably still be able to hear my music while on the lawn mower or on my motorbike but not sure about a jet plane ^^
Speakers at max volume is fine for a quiet room, but outside it probably won't be very loud.
Hope this helped some.
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Just confirming that my bluetooth keyboard (made by Anker for ~$25 on Amazon) works.
I just paired it and this is the first thing I've typed. Seems to do well. I can even alt-tab to other stuff running. Sweet.
Also just connected my bluetooth apple mightymouse (or whatever they're called) and that's working as well (at the same time as the keyboard)
Maybe someone will see this and find it helpful =)
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Maybe mine seems simmilar with yours, so I can think my device isn't corruped or something.
In fact I doubted my Nexus is a normal or not.
Thanks, thanks again.

Speakers are really loud. Comparable to my sons Samsung Tab and much much louder then the first gen.
As for apps, just because some apps haven't been given the green flag for 4.3 doesn't mean I won't work. I've sideloaded tons of apps that work fine.
Nothing really different between 4.3 and 4.2 cosmetically. You shouldnt want to downgrade just because a few devs haven't updated yet.
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lys2002123 said:
Some Korean apps... and sound mods like viper4android.
And i think 4.3's audio output is quieter than 4.2.
My N7 is sooo quiet, both headphones and speakers.
Low volume really makes me disappointed.
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You would have to find a ROM that boost the volume. Just going to 4.2.2 wont increase your volume. I've been playing around with some stuff to boost volume and hopefully will have a mod out soon for it
But player is right...the diff between 4.2 and 4.3 are min. They did make a lot of battery saving tweaks, BT stack tweaks and other hardware tweaks but its more hardware related then os related
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[Q] How to have the best audio experience? Suggestions please..apps, tweaks

I need suggestions for the best audio experience on the Nexus 7. Apps, tweaks..

Quality headphones will do much more for you than some random arbitrary tweak or app
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Download poweramp from the play store. My advice is go blow 100+ on some nice bose headphones. Bose also makes a amazing portable speaker that will make your n7 tunes shine.
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If viper audio works on the N7 (I currently only use it on my S4) then that will do wonders for you.
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+1 on viper audio. flash and use some nice IRQ .

ViPER4Android is working great for me but unfortunately only with stock Google music player. The effects are very nice but maximum volume is still very lacking even with +6.0dB Gain compared to my iPhone 4 which has far better audio quality and way higher volume.

Faux Sound, perhaps, if you are rooted, with a rom that supports it.

Beats+xlouder! 4.4
I currently use Misledz BEATS+XLOUDER! 4.4 and a pair of beats Mixr's and the sound is amazing! I have tried Viper and it was also very good I just am a long time BEATS+XLOUDER! 4.4 user. I picked up my beats for $50 on ebay and while a lot of people don't care for them the mixr's are amazing. You can also pick up a pair of Audio Technica ath-M-50's used on ebay for the same price or about a $100 brand new great headphones. Read some reviews you won't be disappointed.

ty949 said:
I currently use Misledz BEATS+XLOUDER! 4.4
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With 4.4.2??

naturecannon said:
With 4.4.2??
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No still on 4.4 I didn't see anything significant in 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 to upgrade not to mention the fact that half my apps didn't work with the updates. I usually wait a little while to let everyone catch up. You are right though I should have mentioned it only works on 4.4. Does Viper work on 4.4.2? Best thing to do is try all of them out there is also Cyanogenmod DSP manager. Just know anything you try on XDA is a step up and the hard work of individuals and teams who make our devices great.

NEED Help!!! Nexus 5 Microphone Earbuds

So im thinking to buy Sennheiser MM 50 IP but im currently dont know if its working with my nexus 5 (mostly about the microphone)
I need some help, thank you.

They work fine and sound great. I have them
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Ben36 said:
They work fine and sound great. I have them
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So no problem when calling people with microphone (low sound quality etc.) ?
And do you recommend anything else with Mic. for nexus 5?

Seriously? Noone? ...

Don't have that pair, but the ones that came with my iPhone work well enough. The sound quality is crappy, but what can you expect from an Apple product. /shrug
By crappy sound I mean the music and people's voices as I hear them, the mic works well from what I'm told. Music and all sounds crappy on these things regardless of what I plug them into.

snives said:
Don't have that pair, but the ones that came with my iPhone work well enough. The sound quality is crappy, but what can you expect from an Apple product. /shrug
By crappy sound I mean the music and people's voices as I hear them, the mic works well from what I'm told. Music and all sounds crappy on these things regardless of what I plug them into.
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Talking about new i phone 5-6 buds? thats werid i though they are good, btw a lot of ppl complaining about the microphone of that one (not working) im confused now lol

INeedThisNow said:
So no problem when calling people with microphone (low sound quality etc.) ?
And do you recommend anything else with Mic. for nexus 5?
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I've never had any problems
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INeedThisNow said:
Seriously? Noone? ...
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I use Sony MDR-XB50AP's and as the name suggests, it's made to work with pretty much every Android device. Great SQ in general and if you don't mind some quality bass you'll love them. They retail for lower than those Sennheisers.

Xiaomi piston 3 are best and they cost 12$ from china

FooBazza said:
I use Sony MDR-XB50AP's and as the name suggests, it's made to work with pretty much every Android device. Great SQ in general and if you don't mind some quality bass you'll love them. They retail for lower than those Sennheisers.
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So you sure no problems with Nexus 5 huh ? microphone and everything quality etc... ?
Because im gonna buy them right away!

INeedThisNow said:
So you sure no problems with Nexus 5 huh ? microphone and everything quality etc... ?
Because im gonna buy them right away!
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I've been using them since February and nope haven't noticed any issues besides V4A or AudioFX bugs but those have nothing to do with the headset themselves.

FooBazza said:
I've been using them since February and nope haven't noticed any issues besides V4A or AudioFX bugs but those have nothing to do with the headset themselves.
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WOW MAN Thank you so much!!! I bought them today and they are amazing! Crazy bass and SQ!
Also the Microphone works Great with Nexus 5 (And Button for Answer Calls + Play/Pause works with no problem)
Thank you for the advice again! :good: