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So.... following Mikey1022's thread crusade, I'm almost hesitant to post this here, but I feel like I'm going to get the most accurate answer from the people in this forum vs general...
On Cyanogens site, I found this for Battery Recalibration:
Battery recalibration
If you're experiencing higher than normal battery drain, try the following:
1. Charge the phone to full battery; let it keep charging until the battery says it is fully charged. Do not wait until the light is green, it isn't always fully charged, causing a lot of inaccuracies. (You can check by going to: Settings -> About Phone -> Status -> Battery Level = Full.)
2. Boot to recovery mode and go to console (or adb shell) and type:
mount -a
rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
NOTE: Newer Amon_Ra recoveries have an option to delete the battery stats, do this in place of the console commands above.
NOTE: To have the most accurate of battery stats, reboot the phone immediately after wiping the battery stats and wait for CM to boot completely to the desktop. Once your entire boot is done and you have full access to the phone, go ahead and pull the charger and continue with this troubleshooter.
1. Do not charge the phone until after draining the battery completely, resulting in it automatically shutting off.
2. Recharge the phone completely and then use as you normally would.
SO I'm at work, and don't have the option to check this, but unlike "hardware" battery calibration I'm mostly curious about removing the batterystats.bin
Would it help us with our battery woes, or do ours go deeper? For some reason, I noticed that mine's been draining a LOT faster in the past month or so then before...
Any thought?
This belongs in the general area?
I really don't think there's a magic forumula for these LIPO batteries. Unless you have a bad battery, you like numerous others need to join the battery 12 step program. I've already been through it. "Hello, my name is Sean and I'm obsessed with my battery life."
Long story short, just keep charge the battery when it gets low. If you work near an outlet or computer, and sleep near one - it's quite easy to keep the battery up throughout the day.
FYI, I've read up on this a bit regarding laptop batteries. It has nothing to do with the actual battery life or the "memory effect" (these batteries don't have a memory effect). It has to do with the OS's interpretation of the battery's performance and how it is reported to the user. So you're really recalibrating Android, not the physical battery. As far as I've read, this only "needs" to be done once in a great while, once a year maybe. Or if you notice something really odd with the battery level reporting.
I did this this morning as well since my phone was fully charged and ready to try it. Not had any hugely bad side effects from the phone and new battery (1750), but we will see if this changes anything.
wraithdu said:
FYI, I've read up on this a bit regarding laptop batteries. It has nothing to do with the actual battery life or the "memory effect" (these batteries don't have a memory effect). It has to do with the OS's interpretation of the battery's performance and how it is reported to the user. So you're really recalibrating Android, not the physical battery. As far as I've read, this only "needs" to be done once in a great while, once a year maybe. Or if you notice something really odd with the battery level reporting.
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Well, actually, that's why I put it in the development forum. These instructions are telling us to remove things from the system. Also on that note, my battery went from being at 30% full by 10pm (fully charged in the morning) to 30% full by 3pm (YES, 3) so something is definitely wrong, not just "I am obsessed with my battery life". Mind you, I'm at work until 2, so my phone drains to 30% on IDLE, with screen off. I was thinking maybe Android is misinterpreting something? I removed all programs that I thought might be causing this, turned off wifi, bt, gps, still no go. Maybe bad battery?
What I'm thinking this may help with is the fully charged issue the incredible has. I wouldn't follow the above instructions exactly however. Let me explain.
If you've ever noticed, the OS doesn't report "fully charged" correctly. Charge your battery to full (where both the green light comes on AND the "about phone" battery status says "Full". Now shut your phone off, you'll notice your light turns orange again, and will charge for about 30 minutes, sometimes more depending on how far off the battery is. If you turn on your phone after this, you'll notice you stay at 100% for quite some time. This is the case with a lot of incredibles from what I've seen... It probably has to do with the calibration notated above.
I would say do the calibration noted above, however, charge it the way I just noted (charge to full, shut the phone off, let it finish charging to full...). Then follow the rest of the steps immediately following. Might make a difference.
EDIT: this is probably even more true for the 1750mAh battery.
calibration and such has been discussed but not under its own name on page 3 i explain abit about the lithim ion battery vs nickel cadium.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695472
junjlo said:
calibration and such has been discussed but not under its own name on page 3 i explain abit about the lithim ion battery vs nickel cadium.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695472
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I was witness to that thread, and yes, you are correct, Lithium Ion batteries do not need to be conditioned, it is useless... However, we are not talking of conditioning, we are talking of proper reporting of battery life through the OS, which IS how Lithium Ion memory works. This is not saying to Cycle your battery 3 times to "condition" it to full potential. It is stating that the OS is not properly calibrated to report the proper life of the battery. If the OS cuts the charging of a Lithium Ion battery because it "thinks" it is at 100% charge, while the battery itself is at 80% (just a random example), then your battery life is going to appear to be shorter than it should. The example posted above would theoretically reset the OS so that when it says the battery is at 100%, it indeed is at 100%, preventing it from cutting a charge before it should. See my post previous post if you are confused. "Conditioning" is an entirely different animal, in which you "train" the batteries memory (in Nickel cad batteries) before utilizing your battery in normal charging operations. Lithium Ion does not have this memory, making "Conditioning" useless.
Moral to the Story here is to fully charge your phone when its off and you don't have to deal with any of these work arounds. Am I right?
buy a second battery and an external charger. I do this with every phone and I always seam to get battery life that is on the high side of what people report
Thank you for correcting that was bit early in the morning thought it was same question.
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I'm trying this and I've seen an improvement already on the stock battery. Been off charge for 8hrs and 13 mins and is still at 70% charge. Figures it holds a charge when you want to run it down!
jermaine151 said:
I'm trying this and I've seen an improvement already on the stock battery. Been off charge for 8hrs and 13 mins and is still at 70% charge. Figures it holds a charge when you want to run it down!
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What, exactly, are you trying that's giving the improvement? The OP's suggestion of booting into recovery and deleting battery stats, or the other common suggestion of turning phone off for the remainder of the charge? 70% after over 8 hours is FAR better than I'm seeing, and I'd like to see the same results.
alexdw369 said:
What, exactly, are you trying that's giving the improvement? The OP's suggestion of booting into recovery and deleting battery stats, or the other common suggestion of turning phone off for the remainder of the charge? 70% after over 8 hours is FAR better than I'm seeing, and I'd like to see the same results.
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I charged with the phone off, then went into recovery and deleted the battery stats file. Now I'm trying to discharge it completely.
jermaine151 said:
I charged with the phone off, then went into recovery and deleted the battery stats file. Now I'm trying to discharge it completely.
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I am doing the same. Will follow up with results in a few days.
alexdw369 said:
What, exactly, are you trying that's giving the improvement? The OP's suggestion of booting into recovery and deleting battery stats, or the other common suggestion of turning phone off for the remainder of the charge? 70% after over 8 hours is FAR better than I'm seeing, and I'd like to see the same results.
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That's awesome! That's great battery life. I might have to try this.
~ IRC: nostradamus ~
EM30996 said:
That's awesome! That's great battery life. I might have to try this.
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Trying it myself tonight. Will post results tomorrow.
I'm trying it to. I will post results.
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Just tried this method, fully charging the phone when it's off then wiping the battery stats. Hoping it'll fix the annoying problem that the battery doesn't fully charge when the phone is on, although I'm not sure if it even can be fixed -- does anyone know?
I'll update if I remember next time I charge it.
Giving a try
Hey guys. I am also giving this a try today.
I just completely charged my battery last night with it off. This morning I unplugged the charger (while the phone was still off) and plugged back in to make sure that the battery was fully charged. The green light turned orange for a couple of minutes and back to green so I proceeded to boot to recovery and removed the battery file. I am also running a Seidio 1750mah.
I am now up and running. I will post later this afternoon to let you know how it's going.
If this fixes the weird battery bug where the Incredible doesn't charge fully, I will kiss the OP. Seriously.
Hi all,
I am puzzled by my problem. I am using Virtuous 2.7 + King's BFS kernel #4.
My phone battery will drop quickly from 100% to 92% right after unplugged from the power cord. By quickly, I meant I did not use the phone, killed all tasks, and battery will drop to 92% literally in minutes.
Bump charging, wiping battery stats, wiping dalvik cache, killing all tasks are not helping at all. I don't have SetCPU, but someone in the forum mentioned they have SetCPU, and it is not helping either.
Is anyone having this problem? Does anyone have any idea on how to solve this?
Please help.
Thank you!!!
chillmeow said:
Hi all,
I am puzzled by my problem. I am using Virtuous 2.7 + King's BFS kernel #4.
My phone battery will drop quickly from 100% to 92% right after unplugged from the power cord. By quickly, I meant I did not use the phone, killed all tasks, and battery will drop to 92% literally in minutes.
Bump charging, wiping battery stats, wiping dalvik cache, killing all tasks are not helping at all. I don't have SetCPU, but someone in the forum mentioned they have SetCPU, and it is not helping either.
Is anyone having this problem? Does anyone have any idea on how to solve this?
Please help.
Thank you!!!
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I spoke to RMK as well as others about this in IRC, doesn't look like anything we can do, deep in the HTC code I guess.
I have the same issue using SkyRaider 3.1. Battery is 100% then after 5-10 minutes drops down to low 90s. It bothered me at first but after several days of moderate to heavy use and still having almost 50% battery left at the end of the day, I just figured it was some kind of bug when reading the battery level at the beginning. How is your battery life overall? If it's like mine, then i wouldn't worry too much about it as long as it's lasting longer. I'm using the 1750mAh battery from Sedio.
I was having the exact same problems until I went back to stock everything and bump charged. Took the OTA for 2.2, rooted, custom recovery, bump charged, wiped stats and cache and now I'm good to go. I usually dont think crap like this works but it made a huge difference in battery life and stopped the 100-90% problems I was having.
KB
I found this on EVO forum, but I don't know how his solution works. I personally don't think this would be the solution.
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704272
I am using the 1500 mAh battery.
My battery life is uptime around 24 hours and awake time around 6-9 hours depending on usage.
so you're not having the issue anymore, after going back to stock (non rooted) with the official OTA 2.2?
KB Smoka said:
I was having the exact same problems until I went back to stock everything and bump charged. Took the OTA for 2.2, rooted, custom recovery, bump charged, wiped stats and cache and now I'm good to go. I usually dont think crap like this works but it made a huge difference in battery life and stopped the 100-90% problems I was having.
KB
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KB Smoka, so you don't have this problem anymore?
Do you think format the phone and wipe all the data will help?
Have anyone tried formating the phone?
I've searched and found that the cause is the phone saying the battery is charged fully when its not basically so to fix this after it goes to 100% while the phone is one then u should turn it off and let it charge fully from there
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superchilpil said:
I've searched and found that the cause is the phone saying the battery is charged fully when its not basically so to fix this after it goes to 100% while the phone is one then u should turn it off and let it charge fully from there
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I did bump charge this phone, but it still drops like crazy.
I'll try this out tonight.
Thanks!
Is this a once time fix thing or do you have to do it every time you charge?
bump charging 4 or 5 times in a row (basically bump as many times as you need to to get it to where the light turns green withing a minute of 2 or plugging it in again) and then wiping battery stats solved this for me... kinda.. i still have to bump twice, but after that it'll stay at 100 for a good while and work it's way down normally, no jumping 10% down..
superchilpil said:
I've searched and found that the cause is the phone saying the battery is charged fully when its not basically so to fix this after it goes to 100% while the phone is one then u should turn it off and let it charge fully from there
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That is bump charging. Something htc is unable or unwilling to fix.
The issue has been known for a while and you have to 'bump charge' every time to avoid the 5-10% drop.
Here's their response about fixing the "bump charge".
"Dear **********,
I understand you would like to know if an update has be released to help get a full charge on your battery without having to bump charge it. At this time we have no information about any updates being released to help resolve this issue on your device. If an update is released for your device you will receive a notification on your device that an update is available.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number ************.
Sincerely,
Victor
HTC"
melophat said:
bump charging 4 or 5 times in a row (basically bump as many times as you need to to get it to where the light turns green withing a minute of 2 or plugging it in again) and then wiping battery stats solved this for me... kinda.. i still have to bump twice, but after that it'll stay at 100 for a good while and work it's way down normally, no jumping 10% down..
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Do you bump charge every single time you charge right now? It's pain in the butt if I have to bump charge everyday.
Yup every day. 4 or 5 times is way overkill though. Just charge phone until green, turn off (don't need to unplug), wait until it turns green then do the plug/unplug one more time.
ufvj217 said:
so you're not having the issue anymore, after going back to stock (non rooted) with the official OTA 2.2?
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Went to stock (official OTA), rooted, custom recovery, bump charged, reset stats and cache and I'm good now.
I charged it to "full" while it was powered on. Once the light turned green I turned the phone off, charged again until the light turned green. Took about 25 minutes. Powered up in recovery wiped battery and cache and now I'm good. The key is after doing all this you have to let the phone completely die.
If you're wiping your battery stats after a bump charge, you will have this problem every time you don't bump charge.
If you wipe your battery stats after it goes green without a bump charge, you won't have this problem.
This is because the software thinks the bump charged battery levels equal 100% charge. A bump charge adds approximately 10 percent of charge.
Formatting your phone or any software changes won't actually do anything other than wipe your battery stats while your phone is not at bump charge levels.
vantagejuan said:
If you're wiping your battery stats after a bump charge, you will have this problem every time you don't bump charge.
If you wipe your battery stats after it goes green without a bump charge, you won't have this problem.
This is because the software thinks the bump charged battery levels equal 100% charge. A bump charge adds approximately 10 percent of charge.
Formatting your phone or any software changes won't actually do anything other than wipe your battery stats while your phone is not at bump charge levels.
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I'll try this instead! I don't want to bump charge everyday! It's too troublesome.
chillmeow said:
Hi all,
I am puzzled by my problem. I am using Virtuous 2.7 + King's BFS kernel #4.
My phone battery will drop quickly from 100% to 92% right after unplugged from the power cord. By quickly, I meant I did not use the phone, killed all tasks, and battery will drop to 92% literally in minutes.
Bump charging, wiping battery stats, wiping dalvik cache, killing all tasks are not helping at all. I don't have SetCPU, but someone in the forum mentioned they have SetCPU, and it is not helping either.
Is anyone having this problem? Does anyone have any idea on how to solve this?
Please help.
Thank you!!!
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The reason this happens is because the battery gets charged fully to 100%, and then is allowed to slowly drain back to 90% (or so) before it's charged back to 100% again. This is how Lithium batteries are charged.
Try this: charge the battery to 100%, and immediately disconnect it after it's full. Notice how the battery doesn't drop to the low 90's immediately.
The reason "bump charging" appears to work is because there is no drain on the battery, since the phone is off. It goes to 100% and stops.
There's nothing we can do code-wise to fix this; it's just how the battery technology works. Keeping it fully charged at 100% while on would damage the charging capacity of our phones.
Btw.. wrong forum.
Solutions in search of a problem
Let me preface this by saying that I’m not an electrical engineer, or any sort of expert on phone hardware, but I think a couple issues are being confused. I’ve seen many posts about this battery “problem” here and elsewhere and an important point is being missed. People are confusing what the battery is actually doing with what the phone SAYS the battery is doing. They are NOT the same thing. The battery is a physical device and it will do what it’s going to do.
Battery life is a function of battery quality, initial state of charge, and demand. If you want the battery to last longer, look at ways of reducing demand. What applications are in use? How long is the screen on? What brightness level? Overclocking and undervolting settings? All these will affect ACTUAL battery life.
At lot of the “solutions” discussed have nothing to do with conserving energy use, but have everything to do with messing with how the phone REPORTS the state of charge. A good example is the issue of the initial drop reported by many users during the first few minutes after unplugging the charger. I see this on my own phone. If the phone is “taught” that 100% charge is when it is totally crammed with juice and plugged in as well, it’s not surprising that there is a good bit of voltage drop (+/- 10%?) right after unplugging. Does this mean there is a problem? NO! It’s just the battery doing what batteries do. A lot of the suggestions about wiping battery stats and such have nothing to do with saving energy. They are ways of fiddling with how the phone REPORTS its condition under various circumstances.
My advice: if you are happy with how your battery lasts, over the course of a day or so, then learn to relax, crack open a cold brew, and revel in just what a great phone the Incredible is. If your battery isn’t lasting as long as you need it to, then look at ways to save power or get a larger capacity battery. Tweaking the battery meter function is simply a feel-good exercise and won’t get you any actual improved performance. END OF RANT.
I can confirm that my gf's phone and my good buddies phone(both were never rooted) have never had a problem with the phone charging up slow first off(both phones charge about 1% per minute). And since they accepted the OTA, have not had the problem of charging to 100% and quickly jumping down to 90%. For instance, the other day my buddy charged his phone while on to 100%, played a game for about 2 minutes and closed it, battery was at 99%. Now I have tried and continually try every possible solution to my battery dying quick and charging slow, but am realizing that this must just be the cost of customizing my phone to my liking. And at least for the moment, a stock 2.2 DINC is just not an option for me.
larsrya8 said:
The reason this happens is because the battery gets charged fully to 100%, and then is allowed to slowly drain back to 90% (or so) before it's charged back to 100% again. This is how Lithium batteries are charged.
Try this: charge the battery to 100%, and immediately disconnect it after it's full. Notice how the battery doesn't drop to the low 90's immediately.
The reason "bump charging" appears to work is because there is no drain on the battery, since the phone is off. It goes to 100% and stops.
There's nothing we can do code-wise to fix this; it's just how the battery technology works. Keeping it fully charged at 100% while on would damage the charging capacity of our phones.
Btw.. wrong forum.
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Sorry that I posted in the wrong forum. I thought this is related to the kernel or ROM I am using (Which is development right????).
Not to question your knowledge about the "battery technology", but why is it only happening to certain people? Nowadays most device are using Li-ion battery, why this phenomenon do not occur to all devices?
Hello,
My desire, after:
an inability to restore nandroid backup
a possible corrupted sd card
a usb brick and inability to mount some nand partitions
and finally succeeding in fixing it, now using/running:
2.29.405.5 stock rooted rom
a new sd card (samsung 16GB class 6)
clockworkmod 2.5.0.7
s-off
seems that has battery issues. When it reaches below 30%, it drains a lot faster. In example few minutes ago, the battery was below 30% level and after sending a couple of sms messages the phone, without the "Connect the charger" indication shut down. Not even the battery icon was red.
What should I do?
After flashing the above ROM I ran an app called battery calibration (could this be the culprit?).
I haven't experienced such problems before the whole mess mentioned above.
Thank you for your time.
Well, it seems to me like a "classic" battery meter calibration issue.
TVTV said:
In order to calibrate the battery meter - FYI the battery itself cannot be calibrated, as Li-Ion batteries have a very low memory compared to old Ni-Cd etc. batteries - you have to go through the following procedure:
1) charge the battery to 100%;
2) let the battery discharge until the phone shuts itself down;
3) plug the wall charger into the phone, boot the phone up then charge the battery to 100% without interruptions.
If the above procedure does not yield the expected results, you can try fully charging the phone (LED showing green) with it completely turned off (after completely draining it). Again, the charging procedure should not be interrupted.
Source: personal experience - had to do this twice after installing new ROMs, as the phone was shutting down at ~14% (working like a charm now).
Regarding the matter of battery wear because of complete discharges, Li-Ion batteries do indeed have a lower cycle count than old-school batteries, but the standard charge/discharge number a Li-Ion battery can take is ~350, so you can't damage the battery pack by doing a full cycle per month (required to keep the battery meter accurate).
Good luck!
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Did this work you mate? I have the same issue with my year old batter now... the phone shuts down @ 40% without any warning... and when I charge it, it starts from 0% and as soon as it hits the 58% mark, it jumps to 100% by itself... and i cant seem to figure out what the hell could I do to fix it... I tried calibrating the battery using the awesome method described here http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/11823-battery-calibration-thread 3 times and nothing changed...
bump bump.. i really need help on this guys... :/
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Weird that after calibration you still get that kind of issues, does this only happen on your current ROM? I have the latest CM in my desire and everything works just fine... Maybe try another ROM if calibration doesn't work to see if it's a hardware or software issue
i actually had issues with MIUI first.. the phone randomly shut down by itself but when i turned it back on, it was perfect... then i switched back to Oxygen and while everything was fine, suddenly one day the phone died at 40% :S and from that day on the phone charges to 58% and then instantly jumps to 100%... and as soon as it gets to 40% it shuts down itself... i guess i need a new battery but i wanted to see wether i can fix this one somehow so i can use it till the new one arrives...
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same problem
i have the same problem
my phone turns off at 20% battery
calibration does not help....
and battery is not bad - it works fine
i'm sure its the problem with calibration
kshitijgandhi said:
i have the same problem
my phone turns off at 20% battery
calibration does not help....
and battery is not bad - it works fine
i'm sure its the problem with calibration
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phone turning off at 20% is fine mate because thats the battery guards against any damage
most of the phones ( smart phones) switch off at 20% as going lower can damage the System .
It shouldnt normally..It's supposed to work fine upto 5%
Have a look at this, it worked for me (but you need a compatible kernel, most AOSP are so)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765609
Hey guys,
Assuming you have read the title there is something weird about my phone.
It shuts down at 40-50% battery (before it shutsdown it says empty battery briefly and then the htc flash screen appears and shutsdown).
The weird thing is the following:
It shuts down at let's say 40% battery, but when it re boots the battery is litterly empty (even when i boot in recovery it says --%, and when i plug the charger it starts at 0% again).
I have tried:
Battery Calibrator
Empty full fill up with wall charger and also tried usb charger.
Screaming @ phone
wiping battery data in recovery (4ext recovery)
The thing i am most confused about is that it goes out at 40% and when i turn it on again it's 0%. This never happened as it happened for the first time 2 weeks ago, confused. I tried different roms and it still happens (even ICS roms).
I wouldn't really mind if my phone would shut down at say 20% when it says actually it's @ 20. But as i said before: It says it's 40 (batterij indicator htc sense half full) and then shutsdown realizing after reboot it's completely empty.
Any help is much appreciated!
Mendel
Shutting down on let's say 15-20% is quite normal, but I never heard of one shutting down at 40%
Are you using the stock battery, that came with your device?
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Any chance to try another battery? Seems really strange cause in most cases if you wipe battery stats you get your phone shutdown at 20%, not 50%.
Its most likely a bad battery that needs to be replaced specially if tue same thing happens when using a different rom.
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Yeah i know it seems so weird that's why i started this thread.
Before i buy a new battery:
What could be the cause that the phone goes out at 40% (or 30) and when it reboots it's empty.
Seems like the phone or the battery aren't in "sync" until it reboots to show it's empty.
Any tips or suggestions?
Thanks!
mendelmusic said:
Yeah i know it seems so weird that's why i started this thread.
Before i buy a new battery:
What could be the cause that the phone goes out at 40% (or 30) and when it reboots it's empty.
Seems like the phone or the battery aren't in "sync" until it reboots to show it's empty.
Any tips or suggestions?
Thanks!
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I'd like to think of it similar to laptop batteries that have gone bad... you plug your laptop to it's power supply, it says fully charged but as soon as you pull it out from it's power supply it drops to 50% in minutes and then goes off. The battery cannot hold the charge anymore.
It can only mean that the battery's life is at an end. The only thing you can do is to change it. I suggest that you stick to original HTC battery as the "ChinaMade" ones will die a lot faster and you'll have to change it sooner than this one.
Regards.
Pushu.X
Hey guys!
I know this thread is started since several months but I actually have the same problem : I have a HTC Desire and its shuts down at about 50% and when I reboot it, it says the battery is empty.
I tried several times to recalibrate the battery (and to do all the things MendelMusic said in his post actually) but nothing changed.
MendelMusic, did you finally manage to solve your problem?
Anybody have a solution or any ideas?
Thanks!
FreakyC said:
Hey guys!
I know this thread is started since several months but I actually have the same problem : I have a HTC Desire and its shuts down at about 50% and when I reboot it, it says the battery is empty.
I tried several times to recalibrate the battery (and to do all the things MendelMusic said in his post actually) but nothing changed.
MendelMusic, did you finally manage to solve your problem?
Anybody have a solution or any ideas?
Thanks!
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Mine used to shut off around 32%. This forum fixed this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24599586
Battery drain?
It's called battery drain. I have it too, but only at 10/20%?
If someone knows a fix, please send it to me
AW: Htc Desire Shuts down at 40-50% battery
Probably your batteries are just weak now. I'd recommend you all to invest 5 bucks in a new battery. Actually that helped at my old desire. Greetings
Thanks for your answers!
I tried the link of madreef and it didn't change. I will try again, maybe I did it wrong (hope it will work this time...)
@dschibril : I don't think my battery is weak because the problem occured as soon as I changed the ROM (CM10). The battery was perfectly ok before that.
battery drain
FreakyC said:
Thanks for your answers!
I tried the link of madreef and it didn't change. I will try again, maybe I did it wrong (hope it will work this time...)
@dschibril : I don't think my battery is weak because the problem occured as soon as I changed the ROM (CM10). The battery was perfectly ok before that.
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Hello, I have the same problem with you. Did you manage to fix it and how? Have you tried a brand new battery so far?
It has to do with the Desire's poor battery age management system. Li-Ion batteries age, meaning that, as time passes, they're gonna be able to hold less and less milliamps. After almost two years, my Desire's battery can only hold 82% of the original ~1400 mA charge.
The only way around this is to use the Nexus One Battery Calibrator (Nexus One and our Desire share the same hardware underneath the hood). You'll need a compatible kernel and some patience. Instructions in this post.
My 2 cents: if your battery is only able to hold less than say 75%-80% of its original charge, then you should replace it. Li-Ion batteries age in such a way that they suddenly go dead, so it's not worth taking the risk.
Later Edit - If your Desire shuts down at say 40% - 50%, that means that your battery is 40% or 50% gone, so it's time for a replacement. I'd still try the battery calibration method i wrote about in the above post, just to determine if it's a freak software error or the battery's fault.
P.S. - Wiping battery stats does nothing to solve most issues (for the Desire, at least).
My phone turns off sometimes at 50%, sometimes at 80% of battery.
I have new battery now (original one) and it is the same. Phone turns off, only when it is connected to charger it does not.
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My hTC Desire 728 shut down when then battery showing 50% to 60% in charge. What is the remedies?
So I am on the WWE of Nougat, version 2.41.401.41. I was getting abysmal battery life, at about 2h30m screen on time, without doing anything special (just browsing, some social media, etc.).
Also, AccuBattery was showing the battery capacity at 2300 MhA, which I found quite impossible for a one year old device.
I suspected that my battery was badly calibrated. What I did is what is described in this thread, slightly modified:
Charge the phone while turned on up to 100%.
Remove the charger and reboot the phone. Upon reboot, the battery will have dropped at about 96-98%.
Reconnect the charger and charge again up to 100%.
Remove the charger again and reboot the phone. This time, the battery will have dropped again, but not as much as the first time.
Repeat steps 2 and 3 until after reboot your battery remains at 100% or at least 99% (depends on how freaky you want to get).
After doing the above I have been getting about 3h30m to 4h00m screen on time and AccuBattery is showing about 2700 MhA battery capacity.
Seems that HTC has really messed up the battery calibration on the 10. Hope this little "trick" helps you as much as it did help me.
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A follow up to this, here is a reply I got from HTC support, regarding battery:
* For battery calibration :
please unplug the phone from charger - turn off the phone device - press on Volume up + Volume down - Power on button all at the same time till the phone started on , please check the battery indicator ,then follow as below :
1. Restart your device
2. Turn on Airplane Mode
3. Connect your device to the charger, and charge it fully
4. Set screen brightness to Max.
5. Set Screen Time out to never.
6. Dial *#*#3424#*#*, choose battery and Charging run down test, and follow the instructions.
If the device loses more than 40% of battery in an hour, then send your device to the repair center
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errikosd said:
So I am on the WWE of Nougat, version 2.41.401.41. I was getting abysmal battery life, at about 2h30m screen on time, without doing anything special (just browsing, some social media, etc.).
Also, AccuBattery was showing the battery capacity at 2300 MhA, which I found quite impossible for a one year old device.
I suspected that my battery was badly calibrated. What I did is what is described in this thread, slightly modified:
Charge the phone while turned on up to 100%.
Remove the charger and reboot the phone. Upon reboot, the battery will have dropped at about 96-98%.
Reconnect the charger and charge again up to 100%.
Remove the charger again and reboot the phone. This time, the battery will have dropped again, but not as much as the first time.
Repeat steps 2 and 3 until after reboot your battery remains at 100% or at least 99% (depends on how freaky you want to get).
After doing the above I have been getting about 3h30m to 4h00m screen on time and AccuBattery is showing about 2700 MhA battery capacity.
Seems that HTC has really messed up the battery calibration on the 10. Hope this little "trick" helps you as much as it did help me.
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Hey, so one month-ish on, how has the battery life been? Has it stayed at 3h30-4h00 screen time or has it dropped again like before?
Devzz said:
Hey, so one month-ish on, how has the battery life been? Has it stayed at 3h30-4h00 screen time or has it dropped again like before?
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Depends on the usage really. I have given up on measuring the SOT, I just plug in every day at night. But has been pretty stable, gets me through the day.
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Depends on the usage really. I have given up on measuring the SOT, I just plug in every day at night. But has been pretty stable, gets me through the day.
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Fair enough, it's a bit pointless at this point to be honest. Does the phone reboot randomly below 50/60% or has calibration fixed that issue? That's the biggest gripe I have with the Nougat update at the moment. If calibration fixes it, I'm gonna do it now! If not, do you reckon another kernel fix it?
Thanks for replying!
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Fair enough, it's a bit pointless at this point to be honest. Does the phone reboot randomly below 50/60% or has calibration fixed that issue? That's the biggest gripe I have with the Nougat update at the moment. If calibration fixes it, I'm gonna do it now! If not, do you reckon another kernel fix it?
Thanks for replying!
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I have never had that issue, before or after "calibration". I am using stock ROM with ElementalX kernel (stock settings in Aroma).
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I have never had that issue, before or after "calibration". I am using stock ROM with ElementalX kernel (stock settings in Aroma).
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Turns out it is a common issue:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/random-shut-boot-loops-t3690547. Seems to be software related hence my initial question!
i have 300 mah battery capacity on my htc 10 , happened overnight ...
A follow up to this, here is a reply I got from HTC support, regarding battery:
* For battery calibration :
please unplug the phone from charger - turn off the phone device - press on Volume up + Volume down - Power on button all at the same time till the phone started on , please check the battery indicator ,then follow as below :
1. Restart your device
2. Turn on Airplane Mode
3. Connect your device to the charger, and charge it fully
4. Set screen brightness to Max.
5. Set Screen Time out to never.
6. Dial *#*#3424#*#*, choose battery and Charging run down test, and follow the instructions.
If the device loses more than 40% of battery in an hour, then send your device to the repair center
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Did that work for you?
For me the htc tool is showing like 6-7%discharge over the one hour...
But if I I use Spotify or any other online/local music app, this can't be true...
Seems to be a software problem, nothing to do with nougat or oreo, nor with firmware version.
Trying the "manual" calibration tomorrow.
About the 40% rule... I already had a support guy say it only needs to be 25%...
Still my battery is far far away from that... Sadly, would love to send it in to have a fresh battery...
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A follow up to this, here is a reply I got from HTC support, regarding battery:
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houston_ said:
For me the htc tool is showing like 6-7%discharge over the one hour...
But if I I use Spotify or any other online/local music app, this can't be true...
Seems to be a software problem, nothing to do with nougat or oreo, nor with firmware version.
Trying the "manual" calibration tomorrow.
About the 40% rule... I already had a support guy say it only needs to be 25%...
Still my battery is far far away from that... Sadly, would love to send it in to have a fresh battery...
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from my understanding you are referring to the 40% in the quoted text
so when you do the test it should only lose about 25% in one hr like the HTC rep said to you instead of the 40 quoted by the other forum user?
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from my understanding you are referring to the 40% in the quoted text
so when you do the test it should only lose about 25% in one hr like the HTC rep said to you instead of the 40 quoted by the other forum user?
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Right, I am in contact with the HTC support using their FB chat.
Last time I asked, still on HTC One m7, it was around 40% for me too.
This time they said it should not drop below 75%.
To be sure you should ask the support yourself, maybe it depends on the country as well?
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Nolia said:
from my understanding you are referring to the 40% in the quoted text
so when you do the test it should only lose about 25% in one hr like the HTC rep said to you instead of the 40 quoted by the other forum user?
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Have you tried wiping the cache partition, my battery was 100% & went to 81% and held its charge for much longer, it's a short way of clearing your battery stats
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I found an alternate trick and it looks like it's a bit more effective (at least for me):
Basically following OP's instructions: charging it to 100% then turn the phone off. But instead of restarting, Turn OFF the phone then hold power+volume down until the backlight of the back and app switcher buttons flashes twice then let go. Then turn on the phone while holding volume up. I think this helps force a battery recalibration every time.
When I did it once I got to 78% then the second restart 55%. I'm currently charging for the 3rd restart to see if I can get better than that. Previously when I tried OP's method a few days earlier I got 78% on the first restart , 98% on the second, and 99% for every time I tried after that.
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I found an alternate trick and it looks like it's a bit more effective (at least for me):
Basically following OP's instructions: charging it to 100% then turn the phone off. But instead of restarting, Turn OFF the phone then hold power+volume down until the backlight of the back and app switcher buttons flashes twice then let go. Then turn on the phone while holding volume up. I think this helps force a battery recalibration every time.
When I did it once I got to 78% then the second restart 55%. I'm currently charging for the 3rd restart to see if I can get better than that. Previously when I tried OP's method a few days earlier I got 78% on the first restart , 98% on the second, and 99% for every time I tried after that.
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Did you unplug the phone before turning it off or did you keep it plugged in?
have you guys tried the Chargie app? It's coupled with a hardware device that limits charging to the phone at your desired level and saves the battery long term.
Unfortunately none of the above did the trick for me. Still, the phone randomly (once in a while) goes to loop when 15 to 20 percent of charge is remaining and won't stop before I plug in a charger. /sad face/
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* For battery calibration :
please unplug the phone from charger - turn off the phone device - press on Volume up + Volume down - Power on button all at the same time till the phone started on , please check the battery indicator ,then follow as below :
1. Restart your device
2. Turn on Airplane Mode
3. Connect your device to the charger, and charge it fully
4. Set screen brightness to Max.
5. Set Screen Time out to never.
6. Dial *#*#3424#*#*, choose battery and Charging run down test, and follow the instructions.
If the device loses more than 40% of battery in an hour, then send your device to the repair center
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Well the test consumed around 50% of my battery. The issue that started around a month ago is that my phone shuts off around 30% battery , however it won't switch on again till I plug-in the charger and when it is on , the battery is at 1%. Seems that the phones is displaying a 1% as 30% before shutting down. What should I do ?
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Well the test consumed around 50% of my battery. The issue that started around a month ago is that my phone shuts off around 30% battery , however it won't switch on again till I plug-in the charger and when it is on , the battery is at 1%. Seems that the phones is displaying a 1% as 30% before shutting down. What should I do ?
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I had the exact same problem. I sent it to HTC and got the battery replaced.
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I had the exact same problem. I sent it to HTC and got the battery replaced.
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Mind I ask how mch htc chared for this service?
Was it in US?
Thank you. :good:
Mine is currently sitting at,
according to accubattery at least:
on P - 66% capacity
on N - 75% capacity