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[Q] hey guys i need a little help

i can't load the amon_ra recovery, doesn't actually work when i do it through rom manager, and i used unrevoked to root. just got my evo back from a 3 month long period of not having it (it broke and i was to lazy to take it in) i had RA before and was running cynogen 6, just rooted last night, and looked in the thread for RA Recovery and none of it is working.
all the directions didn't work for me, or i forgot how to adb and therefore can't do that. i tried terminal on the phone and everything, i really don't want to flash a rom until i do a nandroid with ra.
anyone care to help.

thorpe24 said:
i can't load the amon_ra recovery, doesn't actually work when i do it through rom manager, and i used unrevoked to root. just got my evo back from a 3 month long period of not having it (it broke and i was to lazy to take it in) i had RA before and was running cynogen 6, just rooted last night, and looked in the thread for RA Recovery and none of it is working.
all the directions didn't work for me, or i forgot how to adb and therefore can't do that. i tried terminal on the phone and everything, i really don't want to flash a rom until i do a nandroid with ra.
anyone care to help.
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If you rooted your phone you should have a custom recovery,which do you have ?
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clockwork, and as i have 4g now i wanna make sure i don't screw it up.
edit: hold up i may have just done it by doing an pc36img_recovery flash from a how to root, this file was provided to flash amon_ra, just don't know which version......

thorpe24 said:
clockwork, and as i have 4g now i wanna make sure i don't screw it up.
edit: hold up i may have just done it by doing an pc36img_recovery flash from a how to root, this file was provided to flash amon_ra, just don't know which version......
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It's gonna be 1.7 just update it via Rom manager. It's possible you were not fully rooted yet.. does it say s-off?
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sweet it's amon ra 1.8, awesome. thanks for the offer to help. any suggestions on rom and what not. i used to run CM6 with the kernel to get rid of 30fps cap. though that kernel for the (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876590) awesome battery life in this thread, does that also get rid of the cap? any help or suggestions would be welcome, i've been out of the scene for a while.

yes, i ran unrevoked forever so it says s-off. btw whats the best gingerbread rom out there? sorry for all the noob questions btw.

thorpe24 said:
yes, i ran unrevoked forever so it says s-off. btw whats the best gingerbread rom out there? sorry for all the noob questions btw.
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None are complete all still in beta mode (imo) would be best to just get a good aosp Rom and add theme gingerbread. Also cm6.1.1 is the best I have used but that's all opinion. Heard cm7 will be gingerbread and should be out soon!
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thorpe24 said:
sweet it's amon ra 1.8, awesome. thanks for the offer to help. any suggestions on rom and what not. i used to run CM6 with the kernel to get rid of 30fps cap. though that kernel for the (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876590) awesome battery life in this thread, does that also get rid of the cap? any help or suggestions would be welcome, i've been out of the scene for a while.
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All kernels have the mod to get rid of the cap since HTC released the source for it...
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ah i see, well maybe you can still help me. i got an error doing a nandroid through ra, it says error : run 'nandroid-mobile.sh' via adb!
btw it's been along time since i did adb.......so lost. lol

thorpe24 said:
ah i see, well maybe you can still help me. i got an error doing a nandroid through ra, it says error : run 'nandroid-mobile.sh' via adb!
btw it's been along time since i did adb.......so lost. lol
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Is it plugged in to the computer at the moment? It sounds like you are not fully mounted to your SD card
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it is let me unplug and try that

that worked thanks again man.

thorpe24 said:
that worked thanks again man.
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No problem... if you need anything else just let me know...

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hey everyone, I had clockwork recovery, which I wanted to get rid of. I got the stock recovery.img from htc vision wiki and flashed it using adb. but when i go to rom manager it still says current recovery:clock work. I cant even flash any alternate recovery in rom manager, because the option is not highlighted. I am just wondering is there any reason why i am unable to flash the stock recovery. Or is there anther recovery that I can download, and maybe try and flash that. Any help will be appreciated. thank you in advance.

HeatRyder said:
hey everyone, I had clockwork recovery, which I wanted to get rid of. I got the stock recovery.img from htc vision wiki and flashed it using adb. but when i go to rom manager it still says current recovery:clock work. I cant even flash any alternate recovery in rom manager, because the option is not highlighted. I am just wondering is there any reason why i am unable to flash the stock recovery. Or is there anther recovery that I can download, and maybe try and flash that. Any help will be appreciated. thank you in advance.
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RM might be lieing to you since that header is meant to show you what CWM you have installed and what the latest CWM is. Try booting into recovery from the bootloader and see what's there.
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Pretty sure the OP is asking how to flash stock recovery or something other than clockworkmod.
My question is why? You don't have to flash newest cwm 5.X(you can flash older versions in RM) and there is a thread toget back to complete stock in dev section.
No alternate recoveries besides stock and cwm
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thanks for the replies guys. no i flashed the stock recovery through adb. it sucks there is only stock or cwm. anyways the reason i was trying to get back to stock recovery is that i know gingerbread is already or will be available for htc desire z. and when it is rooted i want to upgrade to it. but i cant upgrade if i have cwm. and i dont like the modified rom people have. any ideas?

never mind, you were right. rm was lieing. crap my phone get factory reset. i wasnt expecting that....could have warned me -_- anyways i am guessing now i can update. btw if i update, then download clockwork. can i restore to my nandroid, which will have the 2.2?

HeatRyder said:
thanks for the replies guys. no i flashed the stock recovery through adb. it sucks there is only stock or cwm. anyways the reason i was trying to get back to stock recovery is that i know gingerbread is already or will be available for htc desire z. and when it is rooted i want to upgrade to it. but i cant upgrade if i have cwm. and i dont like the modified rom people have. any ideas?
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It's already available for the G2 so it should be available for the DZ as well. Check the ROMs thread in the sticky, there's probably already a rooted version out that you could flash with CWM.
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HeatRyder said:
never mind, you were right. rm was lieing. crap my phone get factory reset. i wasnt expecting that....could have warned me -_- anyways i am guessing now i can update. btw if i update, then download clockwork. can i restore to my nandroid, which will have the 2.2?
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Factory reset from flashing a recovery? That shouldn't have happened.
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well i pressed volume up and power. then it went in to hboot. then i pressed recovery. it went in to what looked liked the stock recovery. loaded something. next thing i know it was booting up with everything erased.

HeatRyder said:
well i pressed volume up and power. then it went in to hboot. then i pressed recovery. it went in to what looked liked the stock recovery. loaded something. next thing i know it was booting up with everything erased.
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Did you have a PC10IMG.zip file on the root of your sdcard?
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OriginalGabriel said:
Did you have a PC10IMG.zip file on the root of your sdcard?
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lmao i think i might have...ahh the stupid mistakes i make. anyways thanks a lot for your help. btw if i have permanent root, and i want to flash to stock. do i have to get rid of permroot before i can install an ota?

HeatRyder said:
thanks for the replies guys. no i flashed the stock recovery through adb. it sucks there is only stock or cwm. anyways the reason i was trying to get back to stock recovery is that i know gingerbread is already or will be available for htc desire z. and when it is rooted i want to upgrade to it. but i cant upgrade if i have cwm. and i dont like the modified rom people have. any ideas?
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You can definitely flash a pre-rooted 2.3 DZ build when you have CWM recovery lol.
HeatRyder said:
btw if i have permanent root, and i want to flash to stock. do i have to get rid of permroot before i can install an ota?
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You have to unroot, get back to a fully stock setup, THEN take the OTA.
I have absolutely no idea why you would do this though. You can get any number of 2.3.3+ based ROMs, both stock and modified, that can just be flashed via recovery. You can be on the latest build and keep your root. Why go through all the hassle to unroot and upgrade when you could just keep root?

martonikaj said:
You can definitely flash a pre-rooted 2.3 DZ build when you have CWM recovery lol.
You have to unroot, get back to a fully stock setup, THEN take the OTA.
I have absolutely no idea why you would do this though. You can get any number of 2.3.3+ based ROMs, both stock and modified, that can just be flashed via recovery. You can be on the latest build and keep your root. Why go through all the hassle to unroot and upgrade when you could just keep root?
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yea i know i could. but ahh most of the roms that are 2.3 are for the u.s. i want something more canada based. if you know of any, do share. cause i dont want to have to go through all the apps and see which ones work in canada and which ones dont. what is the best 2.3 sense based rom that i can get? thanks btw.

HeatRyder said:
yea i know i could. but ahh most of the roms that are 2.3 are for the u.s. i want something more canada based. if you know of any, do share. cause i dont want to have to go through all the apps and see which ones work in canada and which ones dont. what is the best 2.3 sense based rom that i can get? thanks btw.
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Not sure which apps youre referring to that aren't going to work in Canada... anything you use on your current ROM probably works on the 2.3 rooted Sense based ROMs lol.
The DZ is the G2 in the USA, and has completely different firmware. It doesn't have HTC sense. So you probably won't find many HTC Sense based ROMs that are "for the u.s." as you put it...
People like Virtuous unity. Its 2.3 based Sense with some Sense 3.0 flares. There are also a few stock pre-rooted OTA DZ builds out there. Go take a look in the dev section. If you like Sense, there are plenty of options for this device.

no i meant the rom that i will get has some apps that dont work in canada. anyways, what do you think is the best sense based rom with 2.3? post a link if possible. thanks.

HeatRyder said:
no i meant the rom that i will get has some apps that dont work in canada. anyways, what do you think is the best sense based rom with 2.3? post a link if possible. thanks.
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I don't use Sense (don't like it) and I wouldn't wanna make a recommendation because I'm not very versed on them.
There are several options, I suggest you try them all and choose which you like. Lots of people like Virtuous Unity.

which tends to crash more? miui or virtuous unity?

No roms for our phone in rom manager

Does anyone know why rom manager doesn't list any roms for our phone?
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Cause Rom Manager doesn't support our phone?

So it's never going to support our phone?
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rom manager usually only has cyanogenmod anyways. besides you wouldn't even be able to flash it through rom manager anyways.

Correct, Rom Manager has never supported ROM Flashing for the E4GT

I flash through ROM manager all the time.
It doesn't list roms for the reason the previous person stated. Basically, it only supports cyanogen for that feature. So, even though I use it to flash roms, it is basically useless. The only reason I ever use it is because I am lazy and hate holding 2 buttons down in the far chance that it will boot in recovery and I dont have to reboot and start over. But, with custom shutdown menus being more popular
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kc_exactly said:
I flash through ROM manager all the time.
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What??? What Roms do you flash? I have tried numerous times and it never works for me.

kc_exactly said:
I flash through ROM manager all the time.
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lmao. no you flash through clockwork mod recovery all the time. you cannot flash throughout rom manager. I know because I have tried. if you were able to then how did you do it? or was this a troll comment?

patrao_n said:
lmao. no you flash through clockwork mod recovery all the time. you cannot flash throughout rom manager. I know because I have tried. if you were able to then how did you do it? or was this a troll comment?
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LOL aha that is what I thought he meant, threw me off there for a second though.

Don't the devs have to submit the links to their roms to rom manager? Has anyone done this? Many times the roms on rm aren't the most recent if development is pretty active.

even if rom manager had the roms. currently they can't be flashed through the program. rom manager just hangs. even when trying to simply backup.

Sorry, you know what I meant. I tend to confuse sometimes.

kc_exactly said:
Sorry, you know what I meant. I tend to confuse sometimes.
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its cool lol. I just had a really long agonizing discussion with my brother about it too. he came from a hero as did I and swore up and down he was flashing from the program rom manager not through recovery on this phone.

Freaking Clockworkmod: got me again.

Oh, CWM, how MUCH I can't stand thee:
Anyway, here's a long version:
I can't stand using CWM for recovery.
(I initially had an OG Evo, and it was nothing but a headache, so I always used AmonRa, successfully, and use that or TWRP on my ALL my other devices, where I can...
I'very made other posts about its issues, and have gotten into it with Koush online before about all the problems with it, and how he just let's so many versions out into the wild that aren't working for different phones...
With the ET4G, I kinda had to use it, and was able to flash a working version thru Odin.
Whatever, I was able to use it.
Lately, Koush releases a touchscreen version, there are stories about it all over the web: so I go into Rom Manager to check it out:
It tells me that it's not yet compatible with the ET4G, but that my version of CWM is outdated, so I should flash a newer CWM....
LIKE AN IDIOT, I agreed.
Now, just when I finally have a chance to flash CM9 on my ET4G, after waiting SOOOOO long?
I can't.
Because now, my recovery's totally borked.
I can't even get my phone to do anything but bootloop the CM7 animation, and download mode is the only thing I can get into.
Now, I'm gonna have to spend all this time today fixing what shouldn't be messed up in the first place instead of enjoying CM9 like I should be doing.
(BTW: Koush, if you're listening: this will be the last time for sure I ever fall for that again.)
Yeah, I'm mad, Bro.
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I never use ROM manager but doesn't cwm have to be packaged with a kernel in order for it to work? ie. we can't just flash a recovery like we could in the evo 4G days. Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.

_MetalHead_ said:
Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.
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Methinks you are a wise and gracious man with your help......

_MetalHead_ said:
I never use ROM manager but doesn't cwm have to be packaged with a kernel in order for it to work? ie. we can't just flash a recovery like we could in the evo 4G days. Methinks if you just use odin to flash a kernel+cwm package you'll be back up and running in no time.
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Oh, yeah: I can fix it, but my wife has my laptop till like 7pm, and I really don't wanna mess with drivers, Odin, all, that stuff on my desktop. I keep all my Android stuff on one PC (laptop) and I like having ADB, drivers, all that stuff, in one place...Just kinda threw a rock into my chain, on today of all days...
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Edit: And, yeah, I knew that used to be the case with CWM (needed kernel flash), but when a known high-level dev is telling me basically, that "this updated version will work for that very specific Android device that you have", and that "I can use his app to flash it", I guess I wanted to believe him...
Eff that guy: He needs to spend less time stacking his money, and more time having some accountability for what he releases to the public.
/End rant.

So, this has nothing to do with Clockworkmod, you are really pissed that samsung requires recovery and kernels on the same partition.
Koush can only do so much magic.

Bielinsk said:
So, this has nothing to do with Clockworkmod, you are really pissed that samsung requires recovery and kernels on the same partition.
Koush can only do so much magic.
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How much magic does it take to remove the ET4G from Rom Manager's compatability list?
I'd bet not too much: In fact, I'd bet I could learn that trick in one short weekend.
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If you're still rooted Mobil odin

Nandroid hardly ever works for me, it usually fails during the restore.

just uninstall rom manager its about worthless for our phone.

drksilenc said:
just uninstall rom manager its about worthless for our phone.
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I know it sux but I have to agree the real problem and question is if you know your way around your phone then honestly why in the hell would you use Rom Manager, Not getting on you but I too hated CWM on OG Evo, I used Amon but the one thing we all learned early is do it yourself so you dont need Rom Manager...

I love the new clockwork mod touch recovery. I actually like it better than twrp2.0. Only thing I like about twrp is you can compress the backups. The new cwm touch was just released for the ns4g.
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I agree ROM manager is useless in the galaxy s4g forums its ROM Mangler.
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playya said:
I know it sux but I have to agree the real problem and question is if you know your way around your phone then honestly why in the hell would you use Rom Manager, Not getting on you but I too hated CWM on OG Evo, I used Amon but the one thing we all learned early is do it yourself so you dont need Rom Manager...
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I know, I know...
(And I'm back up with CM9 on my ET4G: used my desktop, couldn't wait all day), and believe me: there's probably no one who's more outspoken about their anti-cwm/rommanagerness than I am: I'm just mad at myself for believing that the new update would work..
Oh well, lesson (re)learned....
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This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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eao1991 said:
This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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I use it all the time to boot into recovery and that is it
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Originally Posted by eao1991
This is why i no longer use that pos rom manager. When i first started out with android that biatch messed up my og epic a few times. I learned my lesson after a few odins
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I use it all the time to boot into recovery and that is it
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I use the extended power options for that...but obviously the rom needs to include it which most do now. I'm still kicking myself in the ass for ever buying rom manager but I guess it was the noob in me.
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Same thing happened to me when I first rooted my phone. I rooted the stock rom then installed rom manager and installed the recovery that way. Then when I booted into recovery, the only option I had was to reboot.
Don't ever use Rom Manager. Ever.

CBowley said:
Same thing happened to me when I first rooted my phone. I rooted the stock rom then installed rom manager and installed the recovery that way. Then when I booted into recovery, the only option I had was to reboot.
Don't ever use Rom Manager. Ever.
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For our phone.

There's definitely nothing wrong with CWM. Blame rom manager if you must place the blame anywhere besides yourself.

I bought rom manager to support clockworkmod and have access to the latest clockworkmod versions. I think they have provided a wonderful tool. Anyway, I actually never used it except to check for roms and latest clockworkmod.
I've flashed the touch version of clockworkmod (downloaded the .img file from the clockrkmod web site) on my ns4g using adb and fastboot (thanks to Paul627 for the tutorial).
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ROM Manager

I've had Rom Manager Pro for along time now since my first Android and I was wanting to know if our phone uses it at all?
I don't see our model on the list but on one of my other phones we kinda shared one with another phone do we do that if we don't have a main one?
And what's that recovery touch? Has anyone every used that? Sounds pretty cool lolz
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Linux215 said:
I've had Rom Manager Pro for along time now since my first Android and I was wanting to know if our phone uses it at all?
I don't see our model on the list but on one of my other phones we kinda shared one with another phone do we do that if we don't have a main one?
And what's that recovery touch? Has anyone every used that? Sounds pretty cool lolz
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Yes it does. I use it all the time. Do NOT use any form of touch recovery. There is one out there that is safe but right now do NOT use touch recovery.
Touch recovery has been blamed for bricking phones best to steer clear of it altogether.
There are some issues with Rom Manager, I'm sure someone will let you know. FYI, Rom manager uses a v5.0.2.7 CWM based recovery for our phone. Do not use it with any of the ICS based roms, cwm is not compatible with them currently.

Witch ones are safe to use ?
And thank you for your last post
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Linux215 said:
Witch ones are safe to use ?
And thank you for your last post
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The gingerbread based ROMs usually come with a kernel that has recovery built-in so those are safe to use the way they are.
Can't emphasize enough though not to use recovery in ICS though.

Thanks,
but I was more asking is there a sections for our phone in the list in Rom Manager .
Also can I just click the flash recovery at the top of the App and is our phone in the list where you click download roms and it has a list of Rom updates and stuff like that?
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Linux215 said:
Thanks,
but I was more asking is there a sections for our phone in the list in Rom Manager .
Also can I just click the flash recovery at the top of the App and is our phone in the list where you click download roms and it has a list of Rom updates and stuff like that?
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Ah gotcha. First of all, I wouldn't recommend using rom manager to do anything but backups and restores. Yes, you can click Flash ClockworkMod Recovery, make sure you select the 'Samsung Epic 4G Touch'.
Lastly, I have no friggin clue what those roms/rom updates are listed there and how they get flashed or what would happen if something goes sideways so I stick with the XDA known and tried roms that you can get support for.
You cannot use Rom Manager because these need to be flashed according to the instructions posted with each rom. They are almost identical and its very easy to do.
Short version is, I recommend Rom Manager as an easy way to backup and restore your android OS from an interface. Beyond that, I think you're taking unecessary risks. There's a thread around here somewhere about how Rom Manger is very very bad.

I would recommend you read the instructions for any thread you are planning on utilizing closely and follow the directions listed in those threads. Don't assume past Android experience gives a license to skim the reading. Every phone is slightly different and has nuances that can become issues of glossed over. There are often reasons why the instructions are written the way they are.

I've had this phone for a while now, I was just re installing some apps and seen it and just wanted to know if it had a section for our phone that's its
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when I use rom manager to do a back up I have to remove the battery for it to work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

Tungsten c said:
when I use rom manager to do a back up I have to remove the battery for it to work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
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You should not use rom manager, especially if you are on an ICS rom. It needs to install its own version of cwm and could royally mess up the phone.
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Thank you.....is there a way to get its own version of CWM?
Is there a utility that we can use instead or just better to turn of phone and volume up
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Tungsten c said:
Thank you.....is there a way to get its own version of CWM?
Is there a utility that we can use instead or just better to turn of phone and volume up
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Best bet is what you said - Power Off, then power+volume up to get into a recovery. As for recovery Agat's has been great! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721065 and there are some specifically for CM9 and AOKP so if you plan on flashing any of those check those threads.