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Just got an incredible. Have some questions.

I just got my incredible last Saturday cause I thought the Droid X was too laggy. Im a little bit familiar with rooting as I had my old g1 rooted and flashed a bunch of custom roms to that.
I've been researching the Droid incredible rooting process and think I wanna do it. But I have some questions first.
1. I'm currently on the latest OTA update. If I root, is there an easy way to go back to stock if I wanna claim warranty or download the gingerbread OTA when it comes out? If so how?
2. Is this stable for a rookie programmer to do? What are the odds i'll brick it?
Thanks for all your help in advance!
-TAF-
Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.

Unrevoked is simple. Couldn't be any easier really. Cake walk compared to rooting my D1.
Haven't gone back to stock on the incredible, but did it for a friend on the D1, and it was simple. I have seen people say that going back to stock on the Incredible is simple also.
As far as Gingerbread goes, we (rooted Incredibles) will most likely have it first, because of leaks. We already have several ROM's with the Gingerbread keyboard, and the ROM is sure to follow shortly.
I would suggest you Root. You wont regret it. The Dev's for the Incredible are fantastic. They are all making quality ROM's and you will love them. Guaranteed!
The only thing tricky in rooting the Incredible is the SLCD screen causes issues and you have to have a zip file on your SD card. The tutorial will link to it.

Lsdozer said:
Unrevoked is simple. Couldn't be any easier really. Cake walk compared to rooting my D1.
Haven't gone back to stock on the incredible, but did it for a friend on the D1, and it was simple. I have seen people say that going back to stock on the Incredible is simple also.
As far as Gingerbread goes, we (rooted Incredibles) will most likely have it first, because of leaks. We already have several ROM's with the Gingerbread keyboard, and the ROM is sure to follow shortly.
I would suggest you Root. You wont regret it. The Dev's for the Incredible are fantastic. They are all making quality ROM's and you will love them. Guaranteed!
The only thing tricky in rooting the Incredible is the SLCD screen causes issues and you have to have a zip file on your SD card. The tutorial will link to it.
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The only thing I'm worried about is if I have an SLCD or not and unrooting instructions. Every search I do only comes up with an unroot back to stock method for 2.1 eclair that doesn't work on froyo.
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Here are easy rooting/ unrooting tutorials:
http://www.incredibleforum.com/foru...rooting-stock-2-2-using-unrevoked-3-22-a.html
http://www.incredibleforum.com/foru...s/5723-how-get-back-complete-stock-s-off.html

Well, the rooting Part is extremely easy. But, when using unrevoked make sure you select a custom recovery image, that works with sLCD incredibles (i have one), or else you can't see anything going on with it. (black screen white lines, driver issue). If you want ill post a link up. But I rooted mine the second day I had it, and this is my first smartphone period. And I took java 1 and 2 last year in highschool, so i am no programmer. Its incredibly easy.
Now, I havent come across anything, anything for unrooting. So, if you can wait, dont root.
And..pretty sure, when you get the Gingerbread OTA, it will unroot your phone, and bring it back to stock.

techobsessive said:
Well, the rooting Part is extremely easy. But, when using unrevoked make sure you select a custom recovery image, that works with sLCD incredibles (i have one), or else you can't see anything going on with it. (black screen white lines, driver issue). If you want ill post a link up. But I rooted mine the second day I had it, and this is my first smartphone period. And I took java 1 and 2 last year in highschool, so i am no programmer. Its incredibly easy.
Now, I havent come across anything, anything for unrooting. So, if you can wait, dont root.
And..pretty sure, when you get the Gingerbread OTA, it will unroot your phone, and bring it back to stock.
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Yeah dude if you could post a link to that custom recovery so I could check it out id be awesome!
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Just go for it and root it. I was worrying about it for months and then I did it and was rooted in 10 minutes and had a custom ROM installed within 2 hours WITH all my data restored.
Incidentally, I can easily recommend Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS4 ROM for Incredible http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809985
It's insanely fast and stable, and the overclocked kernel gets surprisingly good battery life. And, go through some of the extras for it in that thread if you take a look, some are quite handy like Hulu and the Supercircle battery.
Also, the flipclock actually flips

enlightened79 said:
Here are easy rooting/ unrooting tutorials:
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Will I be able to re SOn my device so I can claim warranty if it ever breaks after that unroot tutorial?
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Should be a way on here, but if you treat your Incredible well/decently, it's not gonna break/a better phone will be out by then anyway. The benefits of root greatly outweigh the voided warranty. (My personal thoughts on "Manufacturer's Limited Warranties", however, could be an entire thread by themselves)

PGleo86 said:
Just go for it and root it. I was worrying about it for months and then I did it and was rooted in 10 minutes and had a custom ROM installed within 2 hours all my data restored.
It's insanely fast and stable, and the overclocked kernel gets surprisingly good battery life. And, go through some of the extras for it in that thread if you take a look, some are quite handy like Hulu and the Supercircle battery.
Also, the flipclock actually flips
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The only thing I'm really worried about is my warranty and being able to unroot back to stock if I need to send it in(i have a knack of bad luck of phones breaking for no reason and me breaking phones)
I treat my electronics well. I just don't have the money for a new 500 buck incredible . I'm a struggling 18 year old paying for college and a car as well.
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Yes- first step in the tutorial is actually how to turn s-on if you so choose.

As far as the custom recovery image goes, here is the basic instructions from the first link posted regarding the recovery.
Step 3A- For those with SLCD screens (Sku ends in 3) start here:
NOTE- You'll see a black screen with white bars if you go into recovery. DO NOT PANIC- we're going to fix that right now by doing the following:
Unplug your phone and close the unrEVOked window.
Download the following file and extract it somewhere you will remember: http://dougpiston.com/files/Recovery...MG_cwm_mod.zip
Start the unrEVOked tool again and go to file -->custom recovery.
Select the recovery.img that you extracted.
Plug in phone (charge only), enable usb debugging and let the tool run.
Note: If tool hangs at waiting for reboot (safe to unplug), that's normal. Unplug the phone and plug it back it. The tool should now saw "complete".
Turn phone off and reboot into HBoot by pressing the power and volume - (down) buttons at the same time
Continue with instructions in Step 3B
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taffy333 said:
(i have a knack of bad luck of phones breaking for no reason and me breaking phones)
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http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1382833
OP there was me. If you can boot AT ALL, you can restore.

taffy333 said:
The only thing I'm really worried about is my warranty and being able to unroot back to stock if I need to send it in(i have a knack of bad luck of phones breaking for no reason and me breaking phones)
I treat my electronics well. I just don't have the money for a new 500 buck incredible . I'm a struggling 18 year old paying for college and a car as well.
Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.
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Heh I bet I have less money..... 15 yr. old highschooler with no job and $25 every 2 months from my grandma
I've broken my fair share of electronics, and have had faulty ones; from what I've seen Incredibles are insanely reliable (though most modern smartphones are).
However, rooting isn't for everyone. Like it says in the root tutorial thread, don't root to be cool. Do it if you actually want/would use features of root, esp. custom ROMs.

I came from a sprint hero. and ended up with a Slcd DINC. After reading up rooting took all of like 5 mins. But I bet I have less money.. 3 girls in school. and a wife in RN school. Im the only one working,lol But then again. my cars and such are paid for. no bill outside the norm. and my cells..
Just ordered the seidio rugged case etc.. to protect my DINC... cant wait. cause I sure cant afford to buy a new one if it breaks.lol

PGleo86 said:
Heh I bet I have less money..... 15 yr. old highschooler with no job and $25 every 2 months from my grandma
I've broken my fair share of electronics, and have had faulty ones; from what I've seen Incredibles are insanely reliable (though most modern smartphones are).
However, rooting isn't for everyone. Like it says in the root tutorial thread, don't root to be cool. Do it if you actually want/would use features of root, esp. custom ROMs.
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Thanks guys. I eventually rooted. I did it wrong the first time and almost lost my phone (slcd issue). But the unroot guide helped bring me back. I re rooted and all went well. Haven't found the right custom Rom yet. Ill keep looking though.
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Glad you did it and got it right
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[Q] Getting rid of my dINC, should i get an X or a Fascinate

I've had nothing but bad experiences with every HTC phone i've ever had. From the Touch Pro, to the TP2, to the incredible.
I sent my old INC in and got a new one because it would boot loop for no apparant reason, the only thing i could think of is the 2150maH battery but tried with the stock battery and same thing.
So the first replacement phone i never received because somehow fedex got the shipping address fine, except the wrong city and zip code and they said verizon would have to call and have it changed, which they did, but it never got delivered and returned to sender. so they sent me a 2nd replacement. I got that one. Activated it yesterday morning, and not 4 hours into it, its boot looping again. I've had to factory reset 3 times and activate it twice (not counting the initial activation)
ugh

User error? Ive had all 3, the dinc is the best overall. did you root it and install custom roms?

Refurb?
Was the replacement (or original) DInc refurbished? I've heard nothing good about refurbs.
Are you using an SD card from another device in the DInc? An old SD card?
Is the SD card full or nearly so?
Rooting w/ UnrEVOked?
The 2 DInc's in our family have none of the issues you listed, we have one each of the AMOLED and SLCD. Both have been extensively modified - ROMs, kernels, PRL's, etc etc. Both run the 2150 battery from VZW. Is your 2150 from elsewhere?
Subjective Opinion:
FWIW, the DX is severely limited in what can be modified since it's not fully rooted. Compared to the DInc, essentially all you can really do on the DX is theme variants of the stock ROM. Then there is the small, and seemingly dis-interested group of devs. There just aren't as many devs because there is so little you can actually truly develop for the device.
IDK anything about the Samsung, but a quick look @ the Fascinate forum here on XDA..... the number of ROMs or mods isn't anywhere near what there are for the DInc.
To be fair, the DInc community has the benefit of time and has a strong bench of interested developers, but browsing the Fascinate forum doesn't look so interesting as the DInc forum.
So, it really depends on what you want to do w/ your device - if you want to be able to modify it six ways from Sunday, it's the DInc, no question.
DX, not so much.
Fascinate - meh.
that's my $0.02

I had both the TP1 & TP2, used mightymike (from ppcgeeks) roms on both of them and the phones were amazing. The Inc is the best phone I have ever owned. I too am going to have to go with user error.
Are you stock or rooted? If you are rooted what have you installed? What kernel are you using? What type of screen is the refurb?
If you don't care to try and fix it, and you must have a different phone now, I would go with the Samsung. The DX is horrible, screen looks like crap, not fully rooted, etc... The Samsung is a bit better, but I don't think it is anywhere near as good as the Inc.

Verizon has a batch of crap Incs that they got back in as warranty phones and instead of actually fixing the problem (bootloop) they factory reset the damn things and set them back out broken. Its just a big cycle, it took me 3 Incs in a week to get one that actually worked. They offered the X and honestly I probably would've taken that over the Fascinate, neither phone has the developer support that the Inc has, and at least the X will be supported by the manufacture.

Wait a couple weeks and get the Thunderbolt. Just don't mess up your phone again and you won't have to bug Verizon for a replacement.

Agreed
I am on DINC 3 myself. The 'bad batch' would be the first batch of DINC's as they shipped with a faulty hardware radio. They would struggle so hard to get a signal, that the phone would superheat, and bootloop. That happened to my DINC 1.
DINC 2 shipped to me with an already blown speaker (I guess running 30 seconds of electronic diagnostics before shipping out a returned phone, doesn't test for that).
I have had DINC 3 since August, and while I think I may have a small power issue, it is fine.
I would not get the X. My wife has the Droid 2 and I just can't stand MotoBlur. Combine that with the relative difficulty of getting a custom ROM on the 2/X (you have to use a few market solutions to force one on), and you may as well pass on Motorola products.

I'll just tell you that I've had nothing but problems with my Droid 1 and 2. I went through 7 (I lost count) before they sent me the Droid 2. I had two replacements for the Droid 2 before they sent me the Incredible. My 3rd incredible is on the way tomorrow. In general I've had terrible luck with refurbs. The quality control is non existent. But if I had to give you advise on the X over the Samsung I would go with Samsung. Knowing how many problems I've had with Motorola phones I'd hesitate to ever own one again.

I got a refurb in November. AMOLED and works perfectly. My fault I needed to get it replaced, too.

Jes7er said:
I got a refurb in November. AMOLED and works perfectly. My fault I needed to get it replaced, too.
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I hope I have your luck then. I don't care about the whole AMOLED vs LED deal. I just want a freakin phone that works correctly.

At first the fascinate was an okay phone and slow on developement and me being use to my d1 development amount got frustrated by the lack of it. Now however, I have to say with froyo being here and other ROMs at around 80% done with more on their way I'm beginning to love this phone like I should have in the first place. You honestly can't beat the internals on this phone right now with anything on the market and I highly recommended it over the DX due to the locked bootloader (and let's not even get into the screen/camera differences)
As always remember that any kind of post on here (including mine) is subject to bias and you should really just get the one that suits your needs best if you really want to even leave the dinc. Just my 2cents.
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if you constantly like to flash things, i would not recommend either, but just stick with the incredible and wait for something else.

I would wait as well. I've not had a lot of confidence in moto phones since my pos Moto Q (which I stall have and works if anyone wants to buy that junk lol). I've also seen the fascinate from a coworker, and while the screen looks nice, the rest doesn't seem to impress me.
Get yourself a free flip, cancel the data plan and wait a month or 3, take the money you saved from no data plan and get some newer nicer phone than all the rest of us on aa 1 year contract. Or get another Dinc, find someone on CL or something that wants to trade you for a samsung and a couple of bucks and swap or something.

A buddy of mine hates his Droid x. Don't know anything about the others
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Don't get either.
X sucks
Fascinate sucks and buggy and not well supported. Get the thunderbolt or wait for the LG or MOTO dual core phones. There might even be a dInc 2 coming soon.

trillonometry said:
User error? Ive had all 3, the dinc is the best overall. did you root it and install custom roms?
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The first one I did, but it happened while stock as well as rooted, with any kernel/rom combination i tried.
the refurb i got was jewed out of the box. I highly doubt its user error as I didnt even do anything outside of activate it and add my google account before it started
smtom said:
Was the replacement (or original) DInc refurbished? I've heard nothing good about refurbs.
Are you using an SD card from another device in the DInc? An old SD card?
Is the SD card full or nearly so?
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Yes, it was a refurb. thats all they will give me.
I've tried a number of SD's and even bought a brand new one. no change
g00s3y said:
I had both the TP1 & TP2, used mightymike (from ppcgeeks) roms on both of them and the phones were amazing. The Inc is the best phone I have ever owned. I too am going to have to go with user error.
Are you stock or rooted? If you are rooted what have you installed? What kernel are you using? What type of screen is the refurb?
If you don't care to try and fix it, and you must have a different phone now, I would go with the Samsung. The DX is horrible, screen looks like crap, not fully rooted, etc... The Samsung is a bit better, but I don't think it is anywhere near as good as the Inc.
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See above, but there is absolutely zero way this is a user error and so many people are having problems. there is literally a 20 page topic on the VZW forums of people having this issue who are on their 7th and 8th dINCs
jdmba said:
I am on DINC 3 myself. The 'bad batch' would be the first batch of DINC's as they shipped with a faulty hardware radio. They would struggle so hard to get a signal, that the phone would superheat, and bootloop. That happened to my DINC 1.
DINC 2 shipped to me with an already blown speaker (I guess running 30 seconds of electronic diagnostics before shipping out a returned phone, doesn't test for that).
I have had DINC 3 since August, and while I think I may have a small power issue, it is fine.
I would not get the X. My wife has the Droid 2 and I just can't stand MotoBlur. Combine that with the relative difficulty of getting a custom ROM on the 2/X (you have to use a few market solutions to force one on), and you may as well pass on Motorola products.
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Yea mine was pre-ordered so it would definitely have been from the first batch
bomber889 said:
if you constantly like to flash things, i would not recommend either, but just stick with the incredible and wait for something else.
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this phone is literally unusable. hopefully number 3 (4 actually, though i never received 2 to know if it would work) will be better.

xmilkmanx said:
The first one I did, but it happened while stock as well as rooted, with any kernel/rom combination i tried.
the refurb i got was jewed out of the box. I highly doubt its user error as I didnt even do anything outside of activate it and add my google account before it started
Yes, it was a refurb. thats all they will give me.
I've tried a number of SD's and even bought a brand new one. no change
See above, but there is absolutely zero way this is a user error and so many people are having problems. there is literally a 20 page topic on the VZW forums of people having this issue who are on their 7th and 8th dINCs
Yea mine was pre-ordered so it would definitely have been from the first batch
this phone is literally unusable. hopefully number 3 (4 actually, though i never received 2 to know if it would work) will be better.
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Good luck man, I know how your feeling.

the refurb i got was jewed out of the box.
Wtf does that mean?

hexon said:
I'll just tell you that I've had nothing but problems with my Droid 1 and 2. I went through 7 (I lost count) before they sent me the Droid 2. I had two replacements for the Droid 2 before they sent me the Incredible. My 3rd incredible is on the way tomorrow. In general I've had terrible luck with refurbs. The quality control is non existent. But if I had to give you advise on the X over the Samsung I would go with Samsung. Knowing how many problems I've had with Motorola phones I'd hesitate to ever own one again.
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Hmmm what's the common denominator here? 12 phones total over 3 models?

midnight assassin said:
the refurb i got was jewed out of the box.
Should watch what you say a little closer. No offense, I'm not anyone's dad, but that's crossing the line.
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[Q] Root method for 2.3 Gingerbread and help please

OKay for weeks now i have been searching ways to Root my HTC EVO I have been looking and looking maybe i am confused so now i see great methods to root the files are no good such as ginger breaks and other ways such you tube videos but unable to find a video who do play by play how to do a easy successful root method now i am currently S-on my Hboot is 2.15 and build number is 4.24 now i know unrevoked is not working since the update make a long story short if anybody has some of a method please reply in a nice way and don't bash me because i may not know this phone stuffed by i am geek in computers so we all have good things what we do best.

Put simply, 2.3 hasn't been rooted yet, they're making progress but you're out of luck for the moment.

Still no method yet, waiting impatiently, check the forums multiple time daily. I'm sure there will be an announcement when it available, so just keep your eyes peeled. Just rooted my wifes evo because she never accepted the OTA, now I'm drooling in jealousy.

That hurt my head
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That hurt my head
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Yup.....Mine hurts too now...

Boltons75 said:
Still no method yet, waiting impatiently, check the forums multiple time daily. I'm sure there will be an announcement when it available, so just keep your eyes peeled. Just rooted my wifes evo because she never accepted the OTA, now I'm drooling in jealousy.
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ALRIGHT WELL I STILL HAVE MY htc HD 2 PHONE AND THAT PROCESS IS SO EASY THE 3.0 SENSE IS CRAZY ON THAT PHONE I WISH SOME 1 WOULD MAKE IT AS SIMPLE TO JAILBREAK ON THE HTC HD 2 PHONE BUT I WILL STILL LOOK OUT OR TRICK MY BROTHER AND CHANGE PHONES HE NEVER UPDATED EITHER LOL

he has hboot 2.15?
didnt even know that existed, but afaik, anything BELOW 2.16 is rootable

dgotgame816 said:
OKay for weeks now i have been searching ways to Root my HTC EVO I have been looking and looking maybe i am confused so now i see great methods to root the files are no good such as ginger breaks and other ways such you tube videos but unable to find a video who do play by play how to do a easy successful root method now i am currently S-on my Hboot is 2.15 and build number is 4.24 now i know unrevoked is not working since the update make a long story short if anybody has some of a method please reply in a nice way and don't bash me because i may not know this phone stuffed by i am geek in computers so we all have good things what we do best.
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Well I have my HTC evo 4g fully rooted with unrevoked. What I did is I broke my phone and I'm under the black tie program with sprint. I called asurion to get my NEW AND UNUSED PHONE. They asked if I would rather it come fully activated. Or would I rather activate it myself. I told them I'd rather activate it myself. I paid the 100 dollar deposit and while Isaac activating my phone I stopped the firmware and software update. It only comes on the phone as an ota if you activate yourself. If they activation it you will be stuck where you are. After stopping the firmware update I was sitting at stock android 2.2 aka froyobwith hboot 2.10. If you're willing to spend 100 bucks to do this, it will come a lot faster than the HTC bootloader update or the developers hacking methods. No offense to the development team. You Guy do an amazing job. But yea, that's the way I did it. Then I rooted with unrevoked and am currently running cm7 and am extremely happy with improved battery life along many other things. Maybe this will help you

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Well I have my HTC evo 4g fully rooted with unrevoked. What I did is I broke my phone and I'm under the black tie program with sprint. I called asurion to get my NEW AND UNUSED PHONE. They asked if I would rather it come fully activated. Or would I rather activate it myself. I told them I'd rather activate it myself. I paid the 100 dollar deposit and while Isaac activating my phone I stopped the firmware and software update. It only comes on the phone as an ota if you activate yourself. If they activation it you will be stuck where you are. After stopping the firmware update I was sitting at stock android 2.2 aka froyobwith hboot 2.10. If you're willing to spend 100 bucks to do this, it will come a lot faster than the HTC bootloader update or the developers hacking methods. No offense to the development team. You Guy do an amazing job. But yea, that's the way I did it. Then I rooted with unrevoked and am currently running cm7 and am extremely happy with improved battery life along many other things. Maybe this will help you
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I agree with this. NEVER EVER EVER EVER LET SPRINT activate a phone. DON'T EVEN LET THOSE ASSHOLES TOUCH IT! Biggest mistake you can EVER EVER make! spread this around. :-D However!, I find it hard to believe on the "I called asurion to get my NEW AND UNUSED PHONE."

It might not be unused but it definitely came in mint condition with the froyo firmware on it so that's all I needed lol as of right now if you're willing to spend the 100 bucks its well worth it in my opinion. Good luck getting root guys ill see if I can't find a way to help the devs and the others working in the collaboration in the development section.

hawke591 said:
Well I have my HTC evo 4g fully rooted with unrevoked. What I did is I broke my phone and I'm under the black tie program with sprint. I called asurion to get my NEW AND UNUSED PHONE. They asked if I would rather it come fully activated. Or would I rather activate it myself. I told them I'd rather activate it myself. I paid the 100 dollar deposit and while Isaac activating my phone I stopped the firmware and software update. It only comes on the phone as an ota if you activate yourself. If they activation it you will be stuck where you are. After stopping the firmware update I was sitting at stock android 2.2 aka froyobwith hboot 2.10. If you're willing to spend 100 bucks to do this, it will come a lot faster than the HTC bootloader update or the developers hacking methods. No offense to the development team. You Guy do an amazing job. But yea, that's the way I did it. Then I rooted with unrevoked and am currently running cm7 and am extremely happy with improved battery life along many other things. Maybe this will help you
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That is not necessarily true. My evo was destroyed in a car accident. Asurion sent me my replacement. I was hoping it would be 2.2 and denied their request to activate my phone. When the new phone arrived, it had already been loaded with 2.3.3. I didn’t even bother to activate it and ended up going back to my rooted hero for the time being. Getting a replacement phone is a crapshoot. There are multiple posts on XDA giving anecdotal reports of replacement phones. Most are shipping with gingerbread. Some still will have froyo. Some (very few) will come with S-off. Don’t assume that by breaking your phone and dropping $100 you will automatically be shipped a phone capable of being unlocked at present time.

hydroxylicacid said:
That is not necessarily true. My evo was destroyed in a car accident. Asurion sent me my replacement. I was hoping it would be 2.2 and denied their request to activate my phone. When the new phone arrived, it had already been loaded with 2.3.3. I didn’t even bother to activate it and ended up going back to my rooted hero for the time being. Getting a replacement phone is a crapshoot. There are multiple posts on XDA giving anecdotal reports of replacement phones. Most are shipping with gingerbread. Some still will have froyo. Some (very few) will come with S-off. Don’t assume that by breaking your phone and dropping $100 you will automatically be shipped a phone capable of being unlocked at present time.
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It really depends on if the phone was made before the ota release date and whatnot. You cn request that it come with 2.2 instead of gb. This method may not work for everyone but I know that it has worked for the friends I have around my area. They saw what happened and wanted to try it and its worked for them. If you feel that its a longshot at getting the right phone
Then by all means stick with what you've got. I just was willing to try anything to get rid of gb. But now I'm running cm7 with a tiamat kernel and am very happy. Little side note: I actually didn't break my phone on purpose.

hawke591 said:
Well I have my HTC evo 4g fully rooted with unrevoked. What I did is I broke my phone and I'm under the black tie program with sprint. I called asurion to get my NEW AND UNUSED PHONE. They asked if I would rather it come fully activated. Or would I rather activate it myself. I told them I'd rather activate it myself. I paid the 100 dollar deposit and while Isaac activating my phone I stopped the firmware and software update. It only comes on the phone as an ota if you activate yourself. If they activation it you will be stuck where you are. After stopping the firmware update I was sitting at stock android 2.2 aka froyobwith hboot 2.10. If you're willing to spend 100 bucks to do this, it will come a lot faster than the HTC bootloader update or the developers hacking methods. No offense to the development team. You Guy do an amazing job. But yea, that's the way I did it. Then I rooted with unrevoked and am currently running cm7 and am extremely happy with improved battery life along many other things. Maybe this will help you
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I see your method and point so I am in KCMO AKA Kansas City MO doing some research online and from Best Buy they have an HTC EVO for 99.99 in white Android 2.2 and even called them to confirmed but doing some thinking and playing around on the Android Market SPB 3D its Awesome since I cant root my phone but I pay the 14.95 that way my phone is not harm and I have my warranty still but i am sticking with SPB 3D

They just came out with the revolutionary root for gingerbread. Look in the android dev section and you'll find it. It works too. I rooted a friends phone using that method and he had absolutely no issues with his phone. Even though my usb cord had a short in it there was no problem with it that made it brick even though it disconnected multiple times. Id have to say that it is a very safe root method. So check it out if you're still interested in root
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New to rooting, have some questions. New phone or no?

I'm thinking about getting a new phone. Maybe someone can offer me some info to help me choose. I have a htc evo 4g now. I've been thinking bout rooting it. But a new phone might just be better. I really like my htc though so I was thinking bout a evo 3d maybe. Possibly another brand. I'm not much of a fan of motorola or samsung. But they seem to be getting better. I want to have wifi tethering so I know i'll have to root if I stay with htc. I really like the sense 3.0 my gf has on her evo 3d. The other thing is the ram for storing apps. I only have 512 with my evo and even less is usable. My toshiba thrive has 3gb, I've heard app space is all in the software. Is there a possibility to get a rom that runs sense 3.0 with ics? Would this give me more room to store more apps as well? Thanks.
Edit: My sprint contract is almost up. I think the beginning of july. I don't know if I'm going to stay. Might take whatever phone I get to boost or something.
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I'm thinking about getting a new phone. Maybe someone can offer me some info to help me choose. I have a htc evo 4g now. I've been thinking bout rooting it. But a new phone might just be better. I really like my htc though so I was thinking bout a evo 3d maybe. Possibly another brand. I'm not much of a fan of motorola or samsung. But they seem to be getting better. I want to have wifi tethering so I know i'll have to root if I stay with htc. I really like the sense 3.0 my gf has on her evo 3d. The other thing is the ram for storing apps. I only have 512 with my evo and even less is usable. My toshiba thrive has 3gb, I've heard app space is all in the software. Is there a possibility to get a rom that runs sense 3.0 with ics? Would this give me more room to store more apps as well? Thanks.
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I would wait till that new Evo drops if you have a upgrade coming.. If not and you can buy a 3D still try one out..

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I would wait till that new Evo drops if you have a upgrade coming.. If not and you can buy a 3D still try one out..
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Thanks. I edited my post. Dunno if I'm going to stay on sprint. I was thinking the 3d cause they can be had relitavely cheap and won't change my contract. Can switch to boost or whatever if I like.
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I would definitely NOT recommended upgrading to an Evo 3D. Wait for the Evo 4G LTE if you want to stick with the Evo line. There are other, better phones out there than the 3D, even from other manufacturers.
As for rooting your current Evo 4G, there are Sense 3.0 roms available. I don't believe there are any ICS + Sense 3.0 roms, but I don't keep up with Sense at all. If you need more app storage, you can always partition your SD card and use the SD-Ext partition to store apps & data. You do, of course, need to be rooted to take advantage of an ext partition. Without partitioning, the Sense 3.0 roms will actually leave you with less storage space. AOSP roms will generally give you more space. With a decent sized SD card, you won't have to worry about space for apps.
Since my suggestion is to wait for the LTEvo, I'd go ahead and root the 4G. From there you can use the wireless tether, and/or flash any rom you want. Just be sure to read, read, and then read some more. Understand what you're doing before you do it. With the latest hboot (2.18), you have to use the HTCdev method to unlock the bootloader. You'll still be s-on, and you'll have to flash via fastboot. I'd suggest going ahead with Captain Throwback's method to downgrade and get s-off. From there, your options are limitless.
The fine folks here at xda will be happy to help you out along the way,, just be sure to do your own research. If you get stuck in the process and searching hasn't yielded any answers, then post questions (or send me a pm, I'm happy to help),
Good luck! Hopefully you don't jump the gun and get an Evo 3D, there are much better phones out now and coming out in the near future. The 3D is barely even an upgrade.

Thanks plainjane. The evo 3d is cheap round here. Usually $125-150. The ram is doubled and a 1.2ghz dual core would be better than what I have. I don't see the htc one being much of a upgrade either. I don't care much bout the speed of the camera and taking pics fast. Plus i'm not sure i wanna sign another 2 year contract. The one thing that really turns me off is the non removable battery. Hopefully it will have really good battery life. I still like to have the option to buy extended batteries if i want. What other phones would you suggest?
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I agree with the previous comments about waiting on the new HTC phones to upgrade, I wouldn't waste your upgrade on a 3D.
I think you should definitely explore rooting your current Evo to check out some of the awesome custom Roms that are out there, including Sense 3.0 roms. Rooting and partitioning your SD card (maybe upgrade your card) will give you all the storage space you need. It will bring new life to your phone and help pass the time until your contract is up. Me personally, I'm waiting to see how Sprint rolls out the network upgrades/LTE before I get into another 2 year contract. I have a rooted Evo and it does everything I need, I don't need a new phone that is restricted by slow 3G.
Do you know which Hboot you have? Do some rooting research actually, do a lot of research and ask questions. Its not as hard as it seems.
And remember to back up your SD card and Nandroid if do decide to root.
Good luck

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I agree with the previous comments about waiting on the new HTC phones to upgrade, I wouldn't waste your upgrade on a 3D.
I think you should definitely explore rooting your current Evo to check out some of the awesome custom Roms that are out there, including Sense 3.0 roms. Rooting and partitioning your SD card (maybe upgrade your card) will give you all the storage space you need. It will bring new life to your phone and help pass the time until your contract is up. Me personally, I'm waiting to see how Sprint rolls out the network upgrades/LTE before I get into another 2 year contract. I have a rooted Evo and it does everything I need, I don't need a new phone that is restricted by slow 3G.
Do you know which Hboot you have? Do some rooting research actually, do a lot of research and ask questions. Its not as hard as it seems.
And remember to back up your SD card and Nandroid if do decide to root.
Good luck
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Thanks. I def wouldn't waste my upgrade on a 3d. I was just going to sell my evo and buy a 3d on craigslist. Might even be able to break even. I rooted my vizio vtab so I'm kinda familiar. Once you root a evo do you have to flash a rom? When I rooted my tablet it was the same as it was before, just had superuser access. Only did that to free the update service. I've been doing alot of reading. I know I have the newest hboot. From what I've read it will be some fun rooting it. Where can I learn more bout flashing roms and kernels? I've done a good bit of reading but are there any good informative videos?
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Thanks. I def wouldn't waste my upgrade on a 3d. I was just going to sell my evo and buy a 3d on craigslist. Might even be able to break even. I rooted my vizio vtab so I'm kinda familiar. Once you root a evo do you have to flash a rom? When I rooted my tablet it was the same as it was before, just had superuser access. Only did that to free the update service. I've been doing alot of reading. I know I have the newest hboot. From what I've read it will be some fun rooting it. Where can I learn more bout flashing roms and kernels? I've done a good bit of reading but are there any good informative videos?
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No, you won't have to flash a rom but, you will probably want to after all the work to unlock it. It took me a week or two to flash after unlocking, and I was on the previous hboot that was a little easier. There should be rooting guides in the development section of the forum and there's also videos on youtube. I used Android Forum a lot at the beginning, they are very user friendly to what may seem like a silly question. Flashing is easy compared to the unlocking aspect, just remember to backup everything, make a Nandroid and wipe everything except sd card prior to flashing.

Does anyone know if you need to unroot before getting the new EVO LTE?

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Does anyone know if you need to unroot before getting the new EVO LTE?
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No, I don't think you'll have to even turn over your phone. When I get a new phone I'm keeping my Evo to continue flashing and using it as a kind of media toy!!!

I am currently Evo LTE coming to SGIII

I have been a EVO users for (2) years making the change to SGIII. I hope I am making the right decision. Couple of questions:
S-off obtainable?
Bootloader Y/N?
Battery Life?
Good Stable Rom?
Tell me what you guys think.

We don't need some soff because Samsung usually isn't a ****
Everything else hell yeah
Some things even hit this phone first
Hell I'm testing something for a guy that will be one of a kind once he shows it off
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The bootloader on the SGIII is not locked (so the equivalent of S-OFF on the HTC bootloaders does not apply). You simply use the Samsung Odin tool to flash a custom recovery so that you can then root or install a custom ROM. It is very easy to do.
The battery life has been good in the two weeks that I have had the phone but of course it depends on phone usage. I can burn the battery down if I am using the phone constantly but with my normal usage it lasts considerably longer than my Evo did.
When I look around I do find some other ROMs around but I have not made that leap yet. I am just running rooted stock. There is enough of an adjustment for me coming from Gingerbread Sense to Samsung ICS. I have not felt the need to do anything other than simple mods at this time.
I came to the SGIII after being on the Evo 4G for two years... I was torn between the Evo LTE and the Galaxy SIII. The things that drove me to the SIII were: replaceable battery, 2GB RAM, USB OTG...

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The bootloader on the SGIII is not locked (so the equivalent of S-OFF on the HTC bootloaders does not apply). You simply use the Samsung Odin tool to flash a custom recovery so that you can then root or install a custom ROM. It is very easy to do.
The battery life has been good in the two weeks that I have had the phone but of course it depends on phone usage. I can burn the battery down if I am using the phone constantly but with my normal usage it lasts considerably longer than my Evo did.
When I look around I do find some other ROMs around but I have not made that leap yet. I am just running rooted stock. There is enough of an adjustment for me coming from Gingerbread Sense to Samsung ICS. I have not felt the need to do anything other than simple mods at this time.
I came to the SGIII after being on the Evo 4G for two years... I was torn between the Evo LTE and the Galaxy SIII. The things that drove me to the SIII were: replaceable battery, 2GB RAM, USB OTG...
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Thanks for the update. I came for OG EVO to EVO LTE which I currently have but many problems have pushed me away. I did an (OTA) and brick my first EVO LTE. One thing that drives me nuts when i am in a call screen goes black. Non removable battery not a big fan either.
I will see tomorrow when I get my SGIII!!

S-off obtainable?
Samsung doesn't have S-On and S-Off but instead Locked and Unlocked. Unlike HTC's ****ty unlock, the samsung unlock fully unlocks your phone.
Bootloader Y/N?
There's a bootloader, but the place where you flash stuff like radio, recovery, etc. is in something called Download Mode. You can use an official samsung tool called ODIN to flash the stuff really easily.
Also every computer has a bootloader. A bootloader is what checks if all your hardware is working and initializes it when you start the device.
Battery Life?
Excellent. I can get 5 hours of screen on time. Similar to the Evo LTE.
Good Stable Rom?
All of the touchwiz ROMs are stable and good. They are all pretty similar so I'd recommend Blazer or FreeGS3.
If you want AOSP, Cyanogenmod nightlies are the best in terms of stability but AOKP and Paranoidandroid are still pretty stable. Keep in mind that none of the AOSP ROMs are stable, but are good enough for a daily driver. If you need stability, use touchwiz.

Wont regret it, my wife has an Evo LTE which i rooted (what a pain in the ass to get s-off) and the Gs3 feels way superior. Dev support for evo lte is not even close to the GS3. My previous phone was an EVO 3d and after having this phone no way im going back to HTC.
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That is exactly want I was hoping to hear. I am unrooting LTE as we speak and taking it back later today.
Thanks

Welcome to lag free world.
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Derekao said:
That is exactly want I was hoping to hear. I am unrooting LTE as we speak and taking it back later today.
Thanks
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I think you'll be a happy camper. Just make sure you don't root it the second you get it out of the box. Make sure you provision everything first and make sure your 3G connection is working. I jumped too quick and didn't have any data and had to call Sprint.
Check the Dev sub forum and you'll find videos by qbking that will guide you step-by-step on how to root your phone. It's a simple process if you have any knowledge in the subject at all.

Yep... I think if HTC wants to survive, they need to take a few lessons from Samsung. They need to give up on the control thing. They are gaining nothing by doing that.

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Yep... I think if HTC wants to survive, they need to take a few lessons from Samsung. They need to give up on the control thing. They are gaining nothing by doing that.
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I never thought I'd ever hear anyone say this! Back when I was suffering through my T-Mobile Vibrant (Samsung Galaxy S) days, I was firmly in the #neveragain camp. I couldn't wait to jump to HTC. Then sometime around a year or so ago, things started changing. First, I guess because of the success of the galaxy line in general, a lot of devs started working on the Samsung phones. The Vibrant still suffered, because it had horrendous GPS (still does to some extent) locks and Samsung wouldn't release either the source code or updates. But the open source community worked wonders. I think the Vibrant was possibly amongst the first phones with an ICS ROM - working ICS ROM. I have been using ICS since December on my Vibrant. It got the JB ROM almost 2 months ago - a stable daily driver JB ROM.
Even so, this was all the open source community with Samsung doing Jack. When I saw the specs for the HTC One X, I was sure I was switching to HTC. Then Samsung hired Steve Kondik and I'm sure he's had something to do with this, but Samsung suddenly started releasing source codes left right and center. As others have said, they never locked the boot loader in the first place and now with the same device on millions of phones (with very minor changes), they have the best of both worlds. But I was still determined to get the One X - especially when Sprint added a SD Card, a kickstand and a dedicated camera button. The display is phenomenal (the one place it totally kicks the S3's butt), but the non removable battery was giving me some pause. I spent some time in the HTC EVO LTE forums and started seeing the multi tasking problems and decided that with the 2GB RAM and the removable battery and the developer community, I was better off with the S3. On top of that, I think HTC went in the other direction. From a nudge-nudge-wink-wink co-inhabitation with the open source community, they went with locked boot loaders, slower releases of the source code.
I finally pulled the plug and decided to go with the S3 - although I must say, I did debate for 5 minutes whether I should wait for the Note 2.
I don't anticipate running any custom ROMS yet on the S3 that I'll be getting next week. But I'll definitely be rooting it and installing Nova launcher. If Samsung hasn't released JB by next month, I'll probably be using CM10. It's already very stable on my Vibrant. It's sure to be stable on the S3 in a month's time.
I wish HTC well and hope they come out with a good phone the next time I'm in the market for a phone.

Made the switch myself today after my 4th defective evolution lte..
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I had the evo lte for 3 days and could not get a 4g lte signal in my house. I never loose lte in my house with the s3
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When I was due for an upgrade, well a line was eligible on my account, I was looking at going with the HTC LTE and decided that I wanted to be able to pull my battery so I didn't give it another thought. I upgraded from the S II to the S III, it was a good move. I had the phone for about 4 hours before I decided to root it and about a day and a half before I decided to put a custom ROM on it
I chose Team Sonic-FreeGS3 mainly because it has the same look and feel as the original stock with added tweaks.
I unplug my phone at around 7 am each morning and use my phone for email and text mainly while at work with some phone calls peppered in, when I get home usually around 530pm, I will have 75% battery life left. I'm very impressed with this ROM and it continues to get better and better. It's very stable and I haven't run into any issues with this ROM

You should check Motorola's policy. No single way to unlock bootloader :crying:
Next phone...definitely Samsung, maybe from Nexus line

Hey Derek, I came from the originals evo also. This has some keyboard lag at random times, and very minor issues, but hardly noticeable. Better than the new evo, compared to the old evo, this is heaven. Look at this, just from texting all day, kik, facebook, xda, and some web browsing and YouTube a little. But one thing I must warn you about, when you get it, at first battery life will seem to suck but it doesn't. You just happen to be going crazy with it not putting it down XD and downloading stuff and personalizing and all that. Screen on in the screen shot is total time on.

I sold my EVO 4G LTE and got a S3. Couldn't be happier.
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I sold my EVO 4G LTE and got a S3. Couldn't be happier.
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why sell it? Its so new you can go back to sprint and ask to return it for the S3? XD

after reading this thread, glad I'm getting a s3 over the evo 4g lte!

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why sell it? Its so new you can go back to sprint and ask to return it for the S3? XD
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I used my upgrade for the iPhone 4S is why. Bought the EVO new for $549.95 from Sprint.
Sold the iPhone for $450 on eBay 2 weeks prior to the EVO release. I pre-ordered two. Sold one EVO for $350 and bought the S3 for $360 with an otterbox case of eBay. Couldn't pass that deal.
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