720p Not Available in ASOP & Why?
hey guys needed to move from my stock sense after i rooted the other day but can not find no ASOP with 720P, is this due to kernal restrictions or purely ROM builds. Also is it simply not possable to extract sense's camera from a sense rom, unpack a ASOP and add the sense camera in the apps folder and later use it as the default.
thanks
if it was it would have been done already, wait until HTC release the GB kernel for the bravo and it may be possible (from what I've heard)
bortak said:
if it was it would have been done already, wait until HTC release the GB kernel for the bravo and it may be possible (from what I've heard)
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interesting so you think its totally a kernel thing and not software?
kuljit55 said:
interesting so you think its totally a kernel thing and not software?
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It'll be kernel/driver incompatibility. Unfortunately I'd like to see 720p incorporated into AOSP ROM's too as I use the video quite a lot and prefer the AOSP ROM's but, I suppose, some sacrifices need to be made because it's not a perfect world
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Hey
I was wondering if there a simple stock Android 2.3 ROM with ONLY HTC Sense?
Thanks
lol .......
riahc3 said:
Hey
I was wondering if there a simple stock Android 2.3 ROM with ONLY HTC Sense?
Thanks
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Wait after HTC ??
riahc3 said:
Hey
I was wondering if there a simple stock Android 2.3 ROM with ONLY HTC Sense?
Thanks
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Dude... Android 2.3 is Google's and Samsung Nexus S .. not HTC. Don't know if HTC will ever produce anything ... Coming next is thunderbolt
http://www.sellmymobile.com/news/new-thunderbolt-leaked-online-2383/
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Dude... Android 2.3 is Google's and Samsung Nexus S .. not HTC. Don't know if HTC will ever produce anything ... Coming next is thunderbolt
http://www.sellmymobile.com/news/new-thunderbolt-leaked-online-2383/
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Noone has the 2.3 source code and ported it to Desire?
riahc3 said:
Noone has the 2.3 source code and ported it to Desire?
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If HTC make a official rom, htc sense will be included, if not, never
Dev make rom with AOSP (Android Open Source Project), not with Sense
Sorry for my poor English, but I hope you understand ...
Edit : there is a lot of ROM in 2.3 just read, only one thing doesn't work ATM, this is the Camera.
Mike_52 said:
If HTC make a official rom, htc sense will be included, if not, never
Dev make rom with AOSP (Android Open Source Project), not with Sense
Sorry for my poor English, but I hope you understand ...
Edit : there is a lot of ROM in 2.3 just read, only one thing doesn't work ATM, this is the Camera.
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I sort of understand.
I understand Sense isnt included and yes, that makes sense (no pun intended) as it is HTC's baby.
Then my question would be better suited as:
Are there stock 2.3 Android ROMs? Most ROMs I see in the developers section have stupid modifications and addons that I can put in myself. I want something stock and then Ill add the neccessary addons/themes if I want.
Look at Oxygen, it's built from source and is pretty much stock 2.3
EddyOS said:
Look at Oxygen, it's built from source and is pretty much stock 2.3
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if u want stock don't install oxygen
try this is the closest to stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878901&highlight=amethyst
I would wait a while yet I have tried Oxygen and although it works it not yet a viable replacement for a good Froyo ROM. I guess that as the maonth progresses things will change and Gingerbread will be good enough for every day use but it's just my opinion that it still has a way to go.
Thanks for all the replies Its a shame Sense isnt open source but there has to be a sales pitch somewhere.
July is being said for a update to 2.3 so...
About to flash CM7. Seen some mention of 'kernal' in various threads. What does it do? and do I need to update it?
Cheers.
same question
The Kernel controls things like battery drain and CPU levels for overclocking etc... its not a must do but recommended for best performance. there is probably not a "best" one but more like the best that suits you. If you are running CM7 i would recomend Vork Kernel's or ManU kernels
Richardtrip's kernels are also very good: overcklocking, manual voltage level, Two-way call recording.
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Richardtrip's kernels are also very good: overcklocking, manual voltage level, Two-way call recording.
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Have you used the call recording? If so how do you "activate" it or listen to the calls afterwards?
CdTDroiD said:
Have you used the call recording?
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Yes call recording is working fine.
CdTDroiD said:
If so how do you "activate" it or listen to the calls afterwards?
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There are several apps in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993793 thread, I used app by skvalex.
Since I'm new to Desire and HTC- what is the difference between Sense and AOSP kernels?
(before you ask- I know what AOSP is)
Do Sense firmwares require some extra drivers/modules/settings in kernel?
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Since I'm new to Desire and HTC- what is the difference between Sense and AOSP kernels?
(before you ask- I know what AOSP is)
Do Sense firmwares require some extra drivers/modules/settings in kernel?
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Hi there!
Sense is HTC proprietary software built over the top of Android. This code is not open source and is what HTC use to set themselves apart from other manufacturers like Samsung etc. Sense is what they sell as their user experience.
AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project. Since Android is an open source operating system, Google publish all the code and necessary tools to develop Android. Companies like HTC get the code and then write Sense over the top. Devs in this community like Cyanogen take the AOSP code and build their ROMS from scratch.
When you see ROMS that are for Sense 2.1 on Gingerbread for example this means that someone has been able to port software running on other phone models like the Desire HD or Incredible etc to your phone model (Desire)
As for the kernels you will need to make sure that the kernel you run is supported on the device and that's about it. The Kernel has to have some key components or the phone won't work so the ROM you use just uses them.
Having said that, ROM developers usually optimise around one or two particular Kernels. They are usually included in the ROM or the Dev will tell you which one they recommend for certain purposes.
You do have to have apps in the system that can access settings if customising the performance beyond what the dev has already done is what you want to do.
Thanks for the answer but it's not exactly what I'd like to know
Thing is- what makes Sense kernel incompatible with AOSP firmware (and vice versa)
Sorry for not answering what you were looking for. I'll try again.
The Kernels for Sense would have specific code that enables features in the phone that HTC build. LED control, light sensor etc. I assume Sense is quite strict about what it will work on and what it won't.
The AOSP Kernels are built without knowing the exact hardware maps of the internal components and as such won't work with Sense because they simply don't know how due to HTC keeping a lid on all source work for Sense and the handset itself.
The best developers can figure most of it out (certainly I am not a dev, just a geek ) and teams like CyanogenMod have it mostly discovered and configurable.
Is that more helpful?
Isn't Sense a HTC's android framework "mod"? I mean does it "just" provide more/different functionality than AOSP?
AFAIK all kernels must be built knowing exact hardware map, otherwise some devices will not work or kernel will not boot. The only autodetect I'm aware of is display panel type and filesystems (I did mess with kernels @samdroid.net)
i have a question about kernels an such from what i understand is you don't need to update the kernel but its a good idea too do so. couple questions i have.
1. how do you know what kernel you have installed currently.
2. How do you flash or get a new one installed if you need or want it.
3. scene i am using core droid 6.3 gb2.3.3 what kernel would be the most compatible or effective?
I have had my inspire phone for 3 months an finally rooted it 3weeks ago sence then i have used the rom manager too play with different roms an make backups of the 2 i have found i like the most. After reading i have seen it stated too get the most out of these roms though you should install a different kernel.
To know your currently version, you have to go in parametres and then logiciel version and look at build. Sorry for my bad English.
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I don't want open a new thread, so I will ask here.
Now I have
kernel
2.6.32.15-gf5a401c
baseband
32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27
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on stock pre rooted 2.2 Froyo.
I want put this ROM. Can I put this ROM with my kernel and radio or I musst put latest kernel and radio?
GTRSkyR34 said:
I don't want open a new thread, so I will ask here.
Now I have
on stock pre rooted 2.2 Froyo.
I want put this ROM. Can I put this ROM with my kernel and radio or I musst put latest kernel and radio?
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You will find that many roms contain a kernel in the zip file, so it will often change when you flash a rom. If not, the developer may recommend one.
Radio is independent of rom flash, and unless you start getting connectivity problems there is normally no need to change it. Again, some developers will recommend a radio (and maybe a RIL if they know a particular combination works well with their rom.
There are quite a few ROMs available, but one thing is not entirely clear to me. Why aren't there any clean AOSP ROMs for the Wildfire? I can understand it would be difficult to develop newer Android versions like Gingerbread that were never officially released for the Wildfire, but wouldn't it be relativly easy to compile a working ROM from the 2.2/2.2.1 source code? Or am I completely missing the point here?
It seems to me all the materials are available to pull this off without too much effort, right? The Kernel source is available from HTC and the Froyo source from our friends at Google.
From what I understand there are also some vendor specific issues that need to be solved, but the Cyanogen developers apparently have this solved already.
That pretty much covers everything right?
So my question would be, is it possible to easily build a clean version of Froyo for the Wildfire by doing the following:
1. Grab the kernel source from HTC and compile it (or just fuse a pre-compiled one seeing as there are quite a few available).
2. Compile the Android 2.2/2.2.1 source
3. Apply vendor specific fixes (assuming they don't have to be incorperated in the code directly).
4. Flash kernel + ROM, thereafter Gapps
5. win?
Basically something like Openfire without bugs. Which reminds me, wouldn't the video recording/SIM card issues be fixed with the official HTC kernel? In which case, I see little reason to try and compile the stuff by myself.
Ah well, I really really hope someone can enlighten me on this subject.
TL;DR: I want to create a basic a clean AOSP Froyo 2.2/2.2.1 ROM which should be easy right because we already have the required materials (proper HTC kernel -- or third party one, 2.2/2.2.1 source, cyanogen vendor fixes), so compile = good to go?
there are
- Wildmix http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155032
- CM6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822132
- Utmost http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862561
- Openfire - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783024
more here (scroll down) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
There is always CM7
Remember you use these at your own risk
Thank you for your reply, but it doesn't really address my questions. I am aware of the custrom ROMs available, none of them really meet my demands.
Cyanogenmod is an excellent ROM, but CM6 has some issues and CM7 is based of Gingerbread.
Utmost and Wildmix are both based on Openfire. The problem with Openfire is that it has a lot of internal stuff I don't really like. Seeing as Utmost and Wildmix are based on it those don't really float my boat either.
My eventual goal would be to create a clean AOSP like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162656
Unfortunately it's based on Gingerbread and not fully functional (yet!).
That is why I asked the questions that I asked. I'd rather do it myself from scratch, but in order to do any work I could really use an answer to my questions
Thanks anyways.
Trademark225 said:
Thank you for your reply, but it doesn't really address my questions. I am aware of the custrom ROMs available, none of them really meet my demands.
Cyanogenmod is an excellent ROM, but CM6 has some issues and CM7 is based of Gingerbread.
Utmost and Wildmix are both based on Openfire. The problem with Openfire is that it has a lot of internal stuff I don't really like. Seeing as Utmost and Wildmix are based on it those don't really float my boat either.
My eventual goal would be to create a clean AOSP like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162656
Unfortunately it's based on Gingerbread and not fully functional (yet!).
That is why I asked the questions that I asked. I'd rather do it myself from scratch, but in order to do any work I could really use an answer to my questions
Thanks anyways.
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Have news for you
We are currently working on a ROM with the aosp ROM you linked as base ...
Stay tuned
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He meant a AOSP Froyo, no Gingerbread ;D
nejc121 said:
He meant a AOSP Froyo, no Gingerbread ;D
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Got that after posting that
But gingerbread is much better than froyo and compatible to nearly all apps you can have
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Anyway what's wrong with gingerbread??
I figured since 2.2.1 is the last available official version released it would be easier to get all hardware functioning properly. But if those new ginger AOSP projects fix the video recording bugs and get everything else fixed, ill gladly switch to it. Maybe ill use xdbg's (spelling?) ginger aosp as a base as soon ss the bugs are fixed.
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Is there a Stock 2.3.4 Clean No Sense TB Wake
i don't mean to sound lazy i have looked, and only found problematic buggy sense roms, ect and a stripped rom which is useless to a new comer like me
any links under this description would be appreciated
thank you
[ROM-AOSP GRJ22] Oxygen v2.1.6 (Latest gingerbread, clean & simple)
thanks nice rom, but 720p recording is essential, TB wake add on is okay, if someone uploads a 720p recording zip it would be a good rom. thanks anyway
After the same. But I don't think there's an aosp rom w/ 720p recording. I really want to try the new 2.3 GB Sense rom (as I assume the 720p libs come with Sense only) but it's unrootable atm, and the apps partition is shrunk.
CM7 is an AOSP 2.3.4 with 720p
dzumagos said:
CM7 is an AOSP 2.3.4 with 720p
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true but CM7 in my opinion is buggy
kuljit55 said:
true but CM7 in my opinion is buggy
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wait WHAT?? CM7 is like the single-most stable ROM that is available for the HTC Desire.. Maybe you just need to do a full wipe of everything through fastboot, then flash it.
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CM7 is an AOSP 2.3.4 with 720p
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Really? Pretty sure they've not re-added 720p recording - which was in CM6 - as they think it's hacky.
Not trying to call you out on this, just I saw this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11441117&postcount=5183 and didn't know the situation had changed. Has it?
Bingley said:
Really? Pretty sure they've not re-added 720p recording - which was in CM6 - as they think it's hacky.
Not trying to call you out on this, just I saw this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11441117&postcount=5183 and didn't know the situation had changed. Has it?
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nope you're right no 720p on cyan im using it now
Trackpad awake script
Flash any ROM you like, then flash the Trackpad Awake script I've attached here (zip file). PM me if you have problems.
I've been searching in the development section for a while, looking for any ICS or other ROM which is stable for daily use. All I find are attempts by people who say either they are not devs or it is their first attempt to make a ROM and sicne I don't have time now for trying and testing, could anyone point me to a stable, fully working ROM for daily use? is there any ICS working ROM or they are all buggy for now. The one I currently have is from an older 2.3.5 but I haven't found any newer either. IF ICS is not ready yet, then which 2.3.5 is using the latest base and is stable?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633198
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This is the most stable of all ICS roms.......But do keep in mind that some things might never work due to the lack of OMX binaries for ARMv6 devices
The things include video recording,full video playback,a perfectly working camera
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This is the most stable of all ICS roms.......But do keep in mind that some things might never work due to the lack of OMX binaries for ARMv6 devices
The things include video recording,full video playback,a perfectly working camera
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I've read this which is marked as "not suitable for daily use" and daily use includes camera and video recording so if that's the best for now, ICS must not be an option for me.
This means that my question changes which 2.3.5 ROM is using the latest base and is quite reliable? I have to say that I haven't found any ROM to convince me that is realible or those that I found are using older base. Maybe there are some that are far away from the latest list and I haven't seen them.
Anyway, if someone uses a ROM with latest official build and it is fast, reliable and tuned well for battery and space usage, please recommend it to me.
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I've read this which is marked as "not suitable for daily use" and daily use includes camera and video recording so if that's the best for now, ICS must not be an option for me.
This means that my question changes which 2.3.5 ROM is using the latest base and is quite reliable? I have to say that I haven't found any ROM to convince me that is realible or those that I found are using older base. Maybe there are some that are far away from the latest list and I haven't seen them.
Anyway, if someone uses a ROM with latest official build and it is fast, reliable and tuned well for battery and space usage, please recommend it to me.
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try his for sense 2.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434497
for sense 3.5, this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865976
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try his for sense 2.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434497
for sense 3.5, this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865976
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Already tried the first one some time ago. It's a bit old and if I remember correctly it uses an older base, plus it has many necessary components removed (like, widgets)
The second one, I've seen it already and it seems that it has most parts chosen for bangladesh. Maybe I'm wrong but I usually avoid installing a ROM from someone who says he is not a developer and he attempts to make a ROM for the first time. Nothing againsta that dev but I'd rather save some time. That's why I posted here.
I think that everyone must have moved to CM and development on WFS must have seized so I guess I'm staying with that old ROM.