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At this point...

Well, we have a bunch of roms for hour HERO, in one rom the camera works at 5mpx, in another at 3.
We've opengl working and not working.
In another rom we have Sense UI, in another we don't have it...
So, why don't you unify all those efforts and create a unique rom with
camera working
sense/non-sense (2 version of the same rom)
And all other stuff???
Is this idea so bad?

They are all based on different Kernals (the basis of the rom) so therefore they are built up differently leading to different things working and not working.
It may be possible to get everything working but certainly would nto be a quick and easy task.
Best thing to do is think of what you regularly use and pick whatever 2.1 rom suits your needs until we get a fully working 2.1 dump.

I think, at this point, i'll wait for a HTC official update, and i'll keep using Exit93 roms...

I second that.
As a fairly long time xda-user i often find it frustrating to find a good rom for my phone.
Just the other day i got my hero and this time there seems to be slightly fewer roms floating around but it's still pretty hard to find a suitable one.
I think alot of us have a good idea of what exactly we want and alot of roms have a bunch of stuff we really dont care about as much as the chef.
What i would really appreciate is a clean rom with a repository of optional components, i don't mind there being a chinese keyboard, but please make it optional.
If i could i would love to get in to the cooking game, i've thought about it several times over the last few years. Alas, i don't know where to start, at least not with Hero.
If anyone can point me to a good starting place i would love to give it a try and make the rom im talking about.
Cheers

[xstream] said:
I second that.
As a fairly long time xda-user i often find it frustrating to find a good rom for my phone.
Just the other day i got my hero and this time there seems to be slightly fewer roms floating around but it's still pretty hard to find a suitable one.
I think alot of us have a good idea of what exactly we want and alot of roms have a bunch of stuff we really dont care about as much as the chef.
What i would really appreciate is a clean rom with a repository of optional components, i don't mind there being a chinese keyboard, but please make it optional.
If i could i would love to get in to the cooking game, i've thought about it several times over the last few years. Alas, i don't know where to start, at least not with Hero.
If anyone can point me to a good starting place i would love to give it a try and make the rom im talking about.
Cheers
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i believe CKDroid is the one for you. it comes with a small kitchen (windows only) to enable you to customize the rom. it's quite stable too
also ... look here for a start to your cooking career.

Lennyuk said:
They are all based on different Kernals (the basis of the rom) so therefore they are built up differently leading to different things working and not working.
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this is wrong. all the 2.1 roms are based on the exact same kernel from the only leaked 2.1 rom we have. as soon as the sources are out a lot will change, but until then the kernel is one of the biggest limitations.

kendong2 said:
this is wrong. all the 2.1 roms are based on the exact same kernel from the only leaked 2.1 rom we have. as soon as the sources are out a lot will change, but until then the kernel is one of the biggest limitations.
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I was sure that the sense based 2.1 roms and the normal android 2.1 roms were based on different sources.

Lennyuk said:
I was sure that the sense based 2.1 roms and the normal android 2.1 roms were based on different sources.
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kernel != rom
there is only one binary 2.6.29 kernel for the 2.1 roms. compare the roms, you will see that the kernel is always:
Code:
2.6.29-8d063048
[email protected]
even if some (one) devs try to make it look like they have a custom kernel...

kendong2 said:
kernel != rom
there is only one binary 2.6.29 kernel for the 2.1 roms. compare the roms, you will see that the kernel is always:
Code:
2.6.29-8d063048
[email protected]
even if some (one) devs try to make it look like they have a custom kernel...
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ok didn't know that. thanks

Lennyuk said:
I was sure that the sense based 2.1 roms and the normal android 2.1 roms were based on different sources.
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There is only one set of freely available source code for Android 2.1 and that is the AOSP version. Note that this is quite distinct from the kernel source code, and is license separately.
For the most part, the Sense-based 2.1 ROMs will be using precompiled elements taken from leaked HTC ROMs, though may have some AOSP elements too.
When HTC do finally release 2.1 for Hero, they must then make the kernel source code as per the terms of the GPL. However, HTC do not ever have to release the source code for their version of Android because the Apache Software Licence (ASL) that Google released Android under is not a copyleft license.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
There is only one set of freely available source code for Android 2.1 and that is the AOSP version. Note that this is quite distinct from the kernel source code, and is license separately.
For the most part, the Sense-based 2.1 ROMs will be using precompiled elements taken from leaked HTC ROMs, though may have some AOSP elements too.
When HTC do finally release 2.1 for Hero, they must then make the kernel source code as per the terms of the GPL. However, HTC do not ever have to release the source code for their version of Android because the Apache Software Licence (ASL) that Google released Android under is not a copyleft license.
Regards,
Dave
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Always learning...
Thanks

None of the current 2.1 ROMS is worth using, they're all just useful for experiments with Android 2.1 - no more than that.
I'm happy with MCR 3.1 so far, it's fast stable, working and relyable, nothing of that could be said of any 2.1 custom ROM so far. So please wait 2 or 3 more weeks until we finally get a real working 2.1 ROM from HTC.

Nemo0815 said:
None of the current 2.1 ROMS is worth using, they're all just useful for experiments with Android 2.1 - no more than that.
I'm happy with MCR 3.1 so far, it's fast stable, working and relyable, nothing of that could be said of any 2.1 custom ROM so far. So please wait 2 or 3 more weeks until we finally get a real working 2.1 ROM from HTC.
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That's just your opinion
VillianRom is currently offering me everything I need to use in a ROM with no issues at all.
Sure some people have problem with different roms but thats because everyone has different needs and uses with their devices.

[Q] Clean Froyo AOSP (2.2 or 2.2.1) for the Wildfire?

There are quite a few ROMs available, but one thing is not entirely clear to me. Why aren't there any clean AOSP ROMs for the Wildfire? I can understand it would be difficult to develop newer Android versions like Gingerbread that were never officially released for the Wildfire, but wouldn't it be relativly easy to compile a working ROM from the 2.2/2.2.1 source code? Or am I completely missing the point here?
It seems to me all the materials are available to pull this off without too much effort, right? The Kernel source is available from HTC and the Froyo source from our friends at Google.
From what I understand there are also some vendor specific issues that need to be solved, but the Cyanogen developers apparently have this solved already.
That pretty much covers everything right?
So my question would be, is it possible to easily build a clean version of Froyo for the Wildfire by doing the following:
1. Grab the kernel source from HTC and compile it (or just fuse a pre-compiled one seeing as there are quite a few available).
2. Compile the Android 2.2/2.2.1 source
3. Apply vendor specific fixes (assuming they don't have to be incorperated in the code directly).
4. Flash kernel + ROM, thereafter Gapps
5. win?
Basically something like Openfire without bugs. Which reminds me, wouldn't the video recording/SIM card issues be fixed with the official HTC kernel? In which case, I see little reason to try and compile the stuff by myself.
Ah well, I really really hope someone can enlighten me on this subject.
TL;DR: I want to create a basic a clean AOSP Froyo 2.2/2.2.1 ROM which should be easy right because we already have the required materials (proper HTC kernel -- or third party one, 2.2/2.2.1 source, cyanogen vendor fixes), so compile = good to go?

there are
- Wildmix http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155032
- CM6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822132
- Utmost http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862561
- Openfire - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783024
more here (scroll down) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
There is always CM7
Remember you use these at your own risk

Thank you for your reply, but it doesn't really address my questions. I am aware of the custrom ROMs available, none of them really meet my demands.
Cyanogenmod is an excellent ROM, but CM6 has some issues and CM7 is based of Gingerbread.
Utmost and Wildmix are both based on Openfire. The problem with Openfire is that it has a lot of internal stuff I don't really like. Seeing as Utmost and Wildmix are based on it those don't really float my boat either.
My eventual goal would be to create a clean AOSP like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162656
Unfortunately it's based on Gingerbread and not fully functional (yet!).
That is why I asked the questions that I asked. I'd rather do it myself from scratch, but in order to do any work I could really use an answer to my questions
Thanks anyways.

Trademark225 said:
Thank you for your reply, but it doesn't really address my questions. I am aware of the custrom ROMs available, none of them really meet my demands.
Cyanogenmod is an excellent ROM, but CM6 has some issues and CM7 is based of Gingerbread.
Utmost and Wildmix are both based on Openfire. The problem with Openfire is that it has a lot of internal stuff I don't really like. Seeing as Utmost and Wildmix are based on it those don't really float my boat either.
My eventual goal would be to create a clean AOSP like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162656
Unfortunately it's based on Gingerbread and not fully functional (yet!).
That is why I asked the questions that I asked. I'd rather do it myself from scratch, but in order to do any work I could really use an answer to my questions
Thanks anyways.
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Have news for you
We are currently working on a ROM with the aosp ROM you linked as base ...
Stay tuned
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He meant a AOSP Froyo, no Gingerbread ;D

nejc121 said:
He meant a AOSP Froyo, no Gingerbread ;D
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Got that after posting that
But gingerbread is much better than froyo and compatible to nearly all apps you can have
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Anyway what's wrong with gingerbread??

I figured since 2.2.1 is the last available official version released it would be easier to get all hardware functioning properly. But if those new ginger AOSP projects fix the video recording bugs and get everything else fixed, ill gladly switch to it. Maybe ill use xdbg's (spelling?) ginger aosp as a base as soon ss the bugs are fixed.
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Why several CM10 thread ?

Hi,
I'm considering switching on HTC one X, and so to install cm10 on it but as i read the forum, i'm wondering : what are the differences between this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786696 and this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784185 ?

iamapay said:
Hi,
I'm considering switching on HTC one X, and so to install cm10 on it but as i read the forum, i'm wondering : what are the differences between this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786696 and this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784185 ?
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I might be wrong but this is what i think
The 1st link you posted is managed by the CM developers, the second link is Tripndroid who based his/her/their rom on the base of the CM developers rom. Basically adding and removing tweaks that this person/team likes and dislikes
If your considering rooting and installing a custom rom. I can recommend the 1st link been using their roms for more than a month now and it's very good rom. If there is anything about sense that you like and will miss try the Sense roms. (Viper and ARHD) are the two major ones that i looked into, before settling on CM10.

alexx_za said:
I might be wrong but this is what i think
The 1st link you posted is managed by the CM developers, the second link is Tripndroid who based his/her/their rom on the base of the CM developers rom. Basically adding and removing tweaks that this person/team likes and dislikes
If your considering rooting and installing a custom rom. I can recommend the 1st link been using their roms for more than a month now and it's very good rom. If there is anything about sense that you like and will miss try the Sense roms. (Viper and ARHD) are the two major ones that i looked into, before settling on CM10.
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hi there just adding to the above post. the first rom is developed with an ultimate goal of becoming the official CM rom, and is ready for everyday use soo far from my experience. The second one is Tripndroid, and he adds his own tweaks as far as i know. however i havent used his ROM yet to know for sure.

iamapay said:
Hi,
I'm considering switching on HTC one X, and so to install cm10 on it but as i read the forum, i'm wondering : what are the differences between this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786696 and this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784185 ?
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Hi there, I am running the ROM from the first post and it's brilliant. I have tried the second one and found it had quite a few bugs and was not nearly as finished as the first ROM. I am busy downloading alpha 5 now to try and am sure it will be just as great as the rest of his updates have been.
Thought I would give my info based on user experience of both ROMs. Also depends on what you looking for; quick ROM or fancy looking, awesome features or a stripped out version.

Well thanks guys, i think i'll go for the TeamNDVRu when i receive my phone, but still waiting september to see if it's worth it or not.
And what about the known issues ?
- Occasional soft-reboots with GPS On + Facebook ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=2184 )
- WiFi direct doesnt work
- MHL output is rotated incorrectly to portrait in horizontal mode (but workaround added since alpha 8 for hw decoded videos/youtube. Use bsplayer from playstore, almost all videos play with it in correct rotation in hwoverlay)
- No FM radio app in ROM. But Spirit FM works from market (it's commercial!)
- USB storage copies slower than normal
- Some paid apps loses settings/acconts due to this android jellybean problem: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=34880 Solution is to backup with Titanium Backup and restore to internal memory, not to sd
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iamapay said:
And what about the known issues ?
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Some of them will only occur if you have special need for something. (e.g. wifi direct)
Some of them don't occur for everyone. (facebook+gps reboot)
None of them are really a huge concern if you are willing to try jelly bean. And for most of them there is a workaround, fix given in the text you quoted. I have a jelly bean rom installed and I have to say that I don't really feel any negative impact by those known bugs/issues. But do note, that most of these ROMs are not as stable as the 4.0.4 ROMs like ViperX.

I have been using tbaldens ROM and it has been quite good. The ones by trip I have found to be a bit unstable.
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[need] DHD with ICS or JB, Sense 4.0 and FULLY WORKING?

Like a thead?
I need ROM with ICS or JB, with Sense 4.0 or 4.0 Lite, which fully working.
I search and install some ROMs, but one is too slow, next not work camera.. etc..
Can anybody help me and link me to ROM?
Thans!

it takes approx 10 minutes or less to change and quickly evaluate a rom .................. why not find one you can live with yourself !!!!!

I search theads and chang ROMs, but i cant find ROM with FULLY WORKING on ICS, so i ask for help.
It's bad?

Piszu said:
I search theads and chang ROMs, but i cant find ROM with FULLY WORKING on ICS, so i ask for help.
It's bad?
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Everyone's list of necessary features is different, so "fully working" means different things to everyone. For example, I rarely use my camera, but for some that's a deal breaker. The only way to answer your question is to try them. There are lists of bugs in the OPs of ROM threads in the development forum, along with a sticky index of all of the ROMs.

bananagranola said:
Everyone's list of necessary features is different, so "fully working" means different things to everyone. For example, I rarely use my camera, but for some that's a deal breaker. The only way to answer your question is to try them. There are lists of bugs in the OPs of ROM threads in the development forum, along with a sticky index of all of the ROMs.
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I use PrimoS v. 3.5 ROM, it's great but camera not work.. ok, i found Virtuous 3.0 kernel and instal. Yeah, camera works, but Conect to PC dosen't.
Before i use ICESenseV5 but its slow ROM.
Ok, i need ROM with work camera, and PC Connect.. help??
I don't have time to changing ROMs all time, couse i need phone to work...

Piszu said:
I don't have time to changing ROMs all time, couse i need phone to work...
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Flash a gb rom and wait for the ics roms to be fully functional.
Sent from a dream.

There are few Roms close ot "FULLY WORKING", but still all of them have problems with at least one main feature. Try again in a month

persons ireditze
I search and for me FULLY WORKING at this momment means:
Sabsa Prime x4.0 By Alireza Babaee
fast ROM, fast Sense 4.0, camera work, wifi work, only calendar widget dont work as I want, but its good ROM.

Piszu said:
Like a thead?
I need ROM with ICS or JB, with Sense 4.0 or 4.0 Lite, which fully working.
I search and install some ROMs, but one is too slow, next not work camera.. etc..
Can anybody help me and link me to ROM?
Thans!
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I have checked almost all the ICS ROM and i liked the Sabsa Prime v4.1 | 4.0.3 | Sense 4a.
But there is a camera issue problem but i fixed that yesterday. and now the ROM is perfect to me.
Why Not Give it a Try to all the ROM with sense 4 and which ever you feel the best then go for it. everyone has different opinion

Piszu said:
I search and for me FULLY WORKING at this momment means:
Sabsa Prime x4.0 By Alireza Babaee
fast ROM, fast Sense 4.0, camera work, wifi work, only calendar widget dont work as I want, but its good ROM.
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why didnt you originally state you wanted to advertise Sabsa, far too many alledged help posts are aimed at advertising particular roms. not really cricket is it ??????

Iv'e been running Blackout ISC Incredible v.3.1.0 for a few days. but it's Sence 3.6

I've been running sabsa since 3.0 version, it's the fastest and most stable rom that I've tried running on ICS, I suggest you to try it. Do a nandroid backup so eventually you can easily go back to gb.

Teichopsia said:
Flash a gb rom and wait for the ics roms to be fully functional.
Sent from a dream.
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Most ICS ROMs I've seen are already 100%
Sent from my inter galactic super fantastic communication device.

useless thread,
if there is such rom everyone would be using it but then again people have different taste and some roms are better for others. You just have to look around and find out which one works best for you.

[Q] Most stable KitKat ROM for Desire Z?

Im wondering right now what is the most stable KitKat ROM for the Desire Z? I know it cant be stable AND no lag so lets just go with stable....Right now, I have a 4.2.2 ROM that is OK but sometimes it reboots ALL day and suddenly stops and is stable (and no lag).

Which 4.2.2 rom do you have?
For now, nothing on KK is better than the AlterNdromadus 4.2.2

Kéno40 said:
Which 4.2.2 rom do you have?
For now, nothing on KK is better than the AlterNdromadus 4.2.2
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Its guhl's permissions ROM.
I am not looking for a 4.2.2 ROM. I asked for a 4.4.x ROM.
Thank you for your reply but that is not what I am asking

so try purekat, it's not stable but for me the most stable

riahc3 said:
Its guhl's permissions ROM.
I am not looking for a 4.2.2 ROM. I asked for a 4.4.x ROM.
Thank you for your reply but that is not what I am asking
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To be clear, I wanted to tell you that KK Roms are far away from being as stable as this 4.2.2 rom.
So, I went back on 4.2.2.
The only thing that are better on KK : the clock, dialer and contact apps (aesthetically)
I'm waiting for PureKat beta3 (after Marco's exams !).

Kéno40 said:
To be clear, I wanted to tell you that KK Roms are far away from being as stable as this 4.2.2 rom.
So, I went back on 4.2.2.
The only thing that are better on KK : the clock, dialer and contact apps (aesthetically)
I'm waiting for PureKat beta3 (after Marco's exams !).
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To be clear, I wanted to ask what KK ROM is the most stable.
So, I never mentioned anything about 4.2.2.
Besides, AlterNdromadus 4.2.2 being a CM ROM, is problably slow as hell compared to AOSP....

riahc3 said:
Besides, AlterNdromadus 4.2.2 being a CM ROM, is problably slow as hell compared to AOSP....
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It is not IMO.
I just gave you my feed-back. You're free to test it by yourself. I will be happy if you find a KK Roms which deserve to stay on it on our device...

riahc3 said:
To be clear, I wanted to ask what KK ROM is the most stable.
So, I never mentioned anything about 4.2.2.
Besides, AlterNdromadus 4.2.2 being a CM ROM, is problably slow as hell compared to AOSP....
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No, your preconceptions are incorrect. Firstly, CM is based on AOSP and does not diverge away enough (ala MIUI) to ruin performance. Secondly, CM is actually better performing because with CM we have more up to date libs etc. especially for qcom stuff like libhardware. Due to there never being AOSP support for this device and HTC stopping official support at 2.3, then clearly CM stuff is gonna work better for our device. Why do you think the Andromadus team stopped AOSP 4.2.2 after beta8?
Now the one case where AOSP is faster (for me) is Fyodor's 4.2.2 ROM, because he put in the effort to get all the libhardware stuff and qcom display stuff working nicely.
If you don't believe me then sync the latest Andromadus AOSP 4.2.2 source (as of around the end of 2012 I think), build it, and tell me you prefer it to their most recent CM build.
Kéno40 said:
It is not IMO.
I just gave you my feed-back. You're free to test it by yourself. I will be happy if you find a KK Roms which deserve to stay on it on our device...
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This is true, and the only advice I can give also. Besides, there are only 2 KitKat ROMs to choose from: Andromadus test builds or Marco's PureKat (CyanKat, AOSB are out of date so won't be stable).
I might like to add that this thread is against the rules anyway so you should be grateful it hasn't been reported yet and accept the advice you've recieved (which has been good).
Essentially, for stability go with 4.2.2, for most stable KitKat it will take you a total of 2 whole flashes to find out which one you prefer.

HTCDreamOn said:
No, your preconceptions are incorrect. Firstly, CM is based on AOSP and does not diverge away enough (ala MIUI) to ruin performance.
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Every 4.2.2 ROM Ive tried that is based on CM vs AOSP is slower. On AOSP you lose some nice features, but Its always seemed slower and more of a memory hogger.
Seems to me that way anyways.
HTCDreamOn said:
Secondly, CM is actually better performing because with CM we have more up to date libs etc. especially for qcom stuff like libhardware. Due to there never being AOSP support for this device and HTC stopping official support at 2.3, then clearly CM stuff is gonna work better for our device. Why do you think the Andromadus team stopped AOSP 4.2.2 after beta8?
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Newer isnt always better.

Also:
I was thinking of updating this, but I've lost my G2. I can't blind dev and I ran into enough difficulties as it was when I could test it. Java is just too confusing for me right now, so much more confusing than C which I'm only just starting to get comfy with. Unfortunately the lag is just a problem you'll have to get used to, backup and clean flash and wait a while. I couldn't do anything tobhelp you anyway, I just don't know how. I can give you the age ole tips: no task killers, no placebo scripts, minimal apps, minimal gapps, no hangouts, no Facebook, no heavy browsers (opera mini is great) but yeah I'm really sorry but there won't be any updates. As it is I think the ROM works well anyway. I'm no dev so if you want someone to support then turn to Flinny, Marco, NeverGone, etc. It sucks that my goal to have a stable sorta up to date ROam was dashed but that's life. Thanks to the people who liked the ROM anyway
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1: Java is more confusing than C? Wow....
2: Saying "lag is just a problem youll have to get used to" is a no no. Like I mentioned, the ROM Im currently on is almost lagless but just has the problem of suddenly becoming stupid and rebooting all the time. Other than that, it is great.
3: Saying that the ROM works well anyways when you are mentioning that it lags and also recommending several comprimises like no heavy browsers and no minimal apps is just a no-no. Im sure this ROM had its time and its moment but its been out matched.
I guess Ill stay on this ROM for now and hope that KK development gets better. That or Phonebloks...

Im using a lower end phone these days because of a nonrelated issue and it already has 4.4.2! Im just surprised.
It also works pretty damn good considering the speed and RAM it has.

For me AOSB 1.2.9 is faster but Flinny's alpha3 is most stable because using AOSB it some times gets reboot especially when open es file explorer .quick pic etc.But AOSB consumes a lot of customizations its really good.