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How does salvage mod Rom go about it?
When I was on that Rom, anytime I would go away from the browser, when I returned I would be right where I left off.
On synergy and many other roms as soon as you leave the screen weather your going to another app or just turning the screen off the browser wants to reload the page, using data, draining battery and time.
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yamaford said:
I'm not sure if I titled this correctly
How does salvage mod Rom go about it?
When I was on that Rom, anytime I would go away from the browser, when I returned I would be right where I left off.
On synergy and many other roms as soon as you leave the screen weather your going to another app or just turning the screen off the browser wants to reload the page, using data, draining battery and time.
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I'm currently on Synergy RC-2 and after reading your post, I decided to give it a shot because I had never noticed before. Well, I fired up the default browser and then pulled up the Google News page and then I hit the home key and then fired up the Android Market app. After that, I pressed & held the home key until all of my recent app list appeared and then I selected the browser. I was immediately taken to where I left off in my browser (The Google News Page). It did NOT refresh. Now, with RC-2+, I have read where people were experiencing what you described above, but again, when I had it installed, I didn't notice. Are you using RC-2+? As for SalvageMod, it is, without question, my favorite AOSP rom, by the way....
Yes. I'm using +. Might swap over to rc2 tonight. + is running smoothly but i like stock browsers.
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Salvage probably isn't really doing anything special to keep the browser alive in the background. It's just that AOSP uses much, much, much less RAM than a Sense 2.1/3.0 ROM does. So with Synergy, even just going back to the home screen may exhaust memory and cause it to kill the browser. But with Salvage, it's got enough memory to keep it running in the background, and it's just switching back to it when you open it again.
As much as I really do like Synergy and MikG, my experience was that it didn't leave enough memory to multitask effectively. Even after first install it was pretty low on RAM, and once I loaded the apps I use on, it was killing things constantly. I couldn't even check GMail while listening to music, or the music would stop. I'm back on CM7 as a result. Not a knock against either ROM, it's just too tall an order for our phones, at least the way I use my phone.
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If i do a Level 2 ram clean up with the stock task manager, my messages wont send and xda app wont open. When i try xda, it does the "buzz......buzz buzz buzz" then force close xda. Any suggestions?
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Reboot or keeping on lvl2ing untill it works
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Tried that
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I have the same problem. I now have been just doing a reboot once a day instead of clearing the ram. I noticed I have a few apps that don't enjoy being cleared out with the stock manager. I am happy with how android does its ram management now and really only clear it when I have been playing with lot of media files.
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Problem is, apps like xda, youtube, qik, market, messaging, facebook, twitter and countless others stay in ram after you close them. Makes my phone slow cause I use most every one of those constantly. So clearing my ram manually is needed. I like the task manager way more than the "manage applications" settings ,but if this keeps hapening, I might just have to start force stopping apps the long way.
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Or just sign out of apps like Facebook, Twitter and youtube then sign back in. I do this once a week to keep it clean, it dumps the data. This version of Touchwiz is a mess.
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I have this star with an orange circle dot inside it that pops up at around 5:30am (eastern time) almost everyday since a few days ago. When I pull down the top bar to see the notification, it is an advertizement that will open up an internet browser.
I would love to know how this is happening and what app it might be that is causing this. I have about 90 apps installed and dont want to go ahead and delete everything to hunt it down.
Any info would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance.
BTW=running Calkulin's Evo2 Froyo rom.
Have you tried going into Settings > Applications > Running Services? You should be able to spot anything running that's out of the ordinary that way.
I did check, didnt see anything, but i will check again today as I bet it will pop-up today a few hours at 530am. Has anyone seen this as well??
here is an idea....
use titanium backup to FREEZE all USER APPS, except for ones that you are SURE are not it...then if you see that at 0530am it did not happen, unfreeze a number of them, maybe 10 or so. at the next 0530am continue this process...until you find the group of 10 that causes the problem to resume.
It's some rogue app that is pushing ads (AirPush). Go to the market and check the reviews on some of the latest apps you've downloaded. that'll help you track it down along with anthonyandrews's idea.
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It's some rogue app that is pushing ads (AirPush). Go to the market and check the reviews on some of the latest apps you've downloaded. that'll help you track it down along with anthonyandrews's idea.
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Initial nailed it. I recall this being discussed on the forum a short while back. Thats just ugly for an app to do that though.
out of curiosity, what was the app?
It's called heyzap. New way of ads.
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use avg antivirus and scan ur phone
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Love the phone but a few times the launcher has redrawn after exiting an app because of most likely memory issues. Anybody using this option? Assuming over time this would keep more memory free and reduce this issue. Any thoughts?
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Love the phone but a few times the launcher has redrawn after exiting an app because of most likely memory issues. Anybody using this option? Assuming over time this would keep more memory free and reduce this issue. Any thoughts?
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This is one of the reasons why I don't like that Google included these developer options pre-installed on this phone. They're developer options for a reason, we can install them if we need to.
This feature is designed so that developers can test their app to be sure that data is properly saved when is no longer in the foreground. For example, if a user receives a phone call or jumps to another app, the app needs to do what is necessary to save it's data. At times, Android can kill a process in the background. If the user plans to go back (perhaps they finished the phone call), they want to see what it is they were working on last. The developer is supposed to handle this case by rebuilding everything as it was before (to provide that seamless experience for the user when switching between apps).
This debug feature helps us test that it works.
For the average user, all you're really more likely to do is slow down your apps. As they will have to rebuild themselves when you resume them, and you may even open yourself to more quirky bugs (for those apps that didn't properly test the above scenario).
So please don't enable it unless you're doing it for development purposes. My 2 cents.
*EDIT* Here's a page from the Android Dev Guide justifying my explanation:
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/debugging/debugging-devtools.html
Immediately destroy activities
Tells the system to destroy an activity as soon as it is stopped (as if Android had to reclaim memory). This is very useful for testing the onSaveInstanceState(Bundle) / onCreate(android.os.Bundle) code path, which would otherwise be difficult to force. Choosing this option will probably reveal a number of problems in your application due to not saving state. For more information about saving an activity's state, see the Activities document.
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(and yes, they used to call it "Immediately destroy activities")
Thanks. I turned it off. Did notice some bugs while on. I just wish with 1GB of RAM the launcher wouldnt have to reload. Hopefully things get better. Might just be my apps but it happens quite often when leaving the browser.
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Thanks. I turned it off. Did notice some bugs while on. I just wish with 1GB of RAM the launcher wouldnt have to reload. Hopefully things get better. Might just be my apps but it happens quite often when leaving the browser.
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weird.. how many widgets do you have on your launcher? the more widgets you have, the slower the launcher is.
Have you tried another launcher? The stock launcher has never been known for being fast and efficient, although I haven't had any issues with it (whereas I'm a LauncherPro fan on my other devices).
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weird.. how many widgets do you have on your launcher? the more widgets you have, the slower the launcher is.
Have you tried another launcher? The stock launcher has never been known for being fast and efficient, although I haven't had any issues with it (whereas I'm a LauncherPro fan on my other devices).
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I have quite a few Widgets but nothing too crazy I don't think. I use LauncherPro on my other devices as well but I love this new launcher so I'm going to stick it out. Like I said the most common task that causes the issue is when I'm using the web browser and then come out of it. Otherwise its been stable. I've noticed the same thing with Honeycomb on my Xoom so it might just be one of those things I have to put up with.
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i'm also noticing some redraw and occasional lag when hitting the home button.
I'm hoping that CM9's custom launcher will have an option to lock it in memory- that may increase the performance by a lot.
also when replacement launchers like go launcher start optimizing more for ICS those might be good options.
Have you tried converting your launcher into a system app? You'll need to use Titanium Backup Pro or something similar to do it for you, or simple copy the APK into your system/app folder... Really sped up my launcher!
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Have you tried converting your launcher into a system app? You'll need to use Titanium Backup Pro or something similar to do it for you, or simple copy the APK into your system/app folder... Really sped up my launcher!
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Did you see the date on this thread, almost 8 months old
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Did you see the date on this thread, almost 8 months old
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... and yet people still continue to discover the thread and benefit from it.
Thanks for clarifying the meaning of "Don't keep activities"
my razr xt910 cannot be counted upon to run smoothly with all the apps simultaneously running and forcing itself to go into reboot. i then fancied an iPhone single styled system (as compared to Android multi-talks) cuz iPhone looks robust and responsive. all the killer that claimed to do the job looked more of a farce and then when i stumbled upon the destroy activity i was like OMG. srsly b4 using it I've only got just inner 100mb of ram, after using it i have a whooping 400mb ram. UI appears faster and all. regarding the relaunching of apps and battery life being used up. i think I'll start to worry about it on a later date. what say any body. ooh yes to add on, even after i deleted 40 apps on my phone it still hanged like fcuked. i guess i can reinstall them back again and not have to worry about it. btw i can't seem to root my xt910 for nuts so i can't custom ROM it along with all other fanciful mods that i hear about what others did to their phones.
I love my Galaxy Nexus, but what's driving me crazy is how it shuts down any app whenever I switch out of it, even if I use the -completely useless so far- multitasking soft key. So for instance I'm waiting for a YouTube video to load, so I temporarily switch out of it to do something else (this is a smartphone isn't it) and come back, and find it reopening the video as if I just did it. Same thing with the browsers. I have 2-3 tabs open, and decided to check out something on the homescreen. Big mistake. When I get back will have to wait for all the tabs to reload.
Anyway to keep apps running in the background?
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I think YouTube just does that. It has been mentioned before. No problem with the browser.
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If your using a Verizon nexus, it partly has to do with Verizon's cdma network, not just android. Plus it would slow your phones operation down and you would see more force closes due to limited resources.
Edit— sorry everybody, did a little drunk forum trolling last night. Everything I posted was false. The other poster was correct and I deserve all the shame.
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Most likely you have an app running thats killing processes. If you have any task manager/killer remove it immediately.
As far as youtube goes, youtube will NEVER keep a video paused or continue playing if you leave. It saves what you were on, but thats it. few reasons for that.
Now, my experience today and no issues.
Facebook, Browser (4 tabs), NFL'11, and twitter all running and they all saved what i was doing and none of them ever closed.
in fact, 3 hours after, the 4 tabs were still open. I've actually had tabs open for 3 days straight that i forgot to close and the browser just made new ones.
and these are not just text sites. I had the Battlefield 3 battlelog, nfl.com, battlefield wiki, and the verge mobile all on.
My browser will keep pages open for days if I wanted to...strange! You're using stock browser?
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stock browser is awesome. especially the inverted mode.
Pretty amateur thread. Come on
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If your using a Verizon nexus, it partly has to do with Verizon's cdma network, not just android. Plus it would slow your phones operation down and you would see more force closes due to limited resources.
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I can't find one fact in your entire statement. What could CDMA possibly have to do with it? Also, you wouldn't see more 'force closes'. When Android runs low on RAM it selects the oldest cached app and ends it, unless it's active.
once again, amateur thread. **** needs to be closed down
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I love my Galaxy Nexus, but what's driving me crazy is how it shuts down any app whenever I switch out of it, even if I use the -completely useless so far- multitasking soft key. So for instance I'm waiting for a YouTube video to load, so I temporarily switch out of it to do something else (this is a smartphone isn't it) and come back, and find it reopening the video as if I just did it. Same thing with the browsers. I have 2-3 tabs open, and decided to check out something on the homescreen. Big mistake. When I get back will have to wait for all the tabs to reload.
Anyway to keep apps running in the background?
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Do you have Don't keep activities checked in the development part of settings? Go to Settings>Developer Options, scroll all the way down, and look if you've enabled the option I've mentioned above
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I have this exact same problem, with the browser and even with games.
I have no task manager. I have watchdog which i believe doesnt kill any processes itself and i have juice defender; could that be whats causing this problem?
I keep hearing about this, am I seriously the only one that can swipe apps away from the recent apps and they actually close?
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I keep hearing about this, am I seriously the only one that can swipe apps away from the recent apps and they actually close?
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possibly you are...
because for me and more than 5 of my friends using the same phone, those swiping aways only close the shortcut regardless of the app running in background or not.
DO THE FOLLOWING
1) go to settings, apps, running apps.
2) with that open, hit the multitask button that shows all apps running.
3) swipe away
4) watch it get killed off your running apps list.
5) grow up
Im not sure what all the *****iness is about but the problen I and i believe the OP were having was quite real and serious.
Any time you switched out of an app or game, even if only for a second, when you switched back it would restart the app or game and in the case of the browser reload the webpage.
Now, ive uninstalled watchdog and the problem seems to have gone away.
Is anybody else using watchdog having this problem?
People need to understand that devs put this code INTO THEIR APPS. Killswitches are hard coded into apps to let the system kill them if they have been in the background. A good example is Opera Mobile. It has a low priority that is coded in BY THE DEV.
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possibly you are...
because for me and more than 5 of my friends using the same phone, those swiping aways only close the shortcut regardless of the app running in background or not.
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Not possibly, I know I am. Home key keeps it running, back key caches/closes it. Certain apps perform differently as foreground tasks and some as background tasks. I think some can't be multi tasked like big games and stuff but as previously said that's on the dev side not androids.
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Running jbsourcery v5 (4.2.2). I can't get any process to stay running at all. Lmt dies on me and restarts after browsing the web for a bit, after that it seems to die and restart every 5 mins. I downloaded sidebar today and its the same story but worse. The memory doesn't even need to be loaded, just lightly using my phone it dies and doesn't come back until I start it manually, this happens about every 5 mins and is EXTREMELY annoying. I've tweaked every single memory setting back and forth and also tried converting both to system apps but they force close and don't work.is there any way to force android to keep a process running or keep this from happening?
Edit: I should mention this has never happened with the weather bug status bar temperature. It sucks because both those apps are completely useless if they don't stay running
for anyone else with the same problem whether its a different app or not, i think i found the answer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330
i just copied another file in my init.d, renamed it and added the info for the app and restarted. i checked it with rom toolbox and it shows the OOM group as being excluded... vs foreground, visibile, empty app, etc. time will tell but i think this is going to work and i can think of another 2 or 3 times this would have been amazing to know. in any event, hopefully someone else may find this useful.
noobish disclaimer: it would be HIGHLY advised not to do this with any apps that have a large memory footprint
aaaanddd. it still doesnt work, app already disappeared. would this be classified as a legitimate memory leak?
App pimp my rom has a lock app in memory setting. Tried it yet?
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App pimp my rom has a lock app in memory setting. Tried it yet?
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lol i was just about to mention that. i wasnt finding anything about it at first because i was googling locking processes in memory. once i changed processes to applications, i found a thread mentioning it, and so far, it looks like this might have finally solved it. i havent had sidebar close yet so its looking pretty good.