[Q] HD2 Has more Development the us? - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ive recently come from my Hd2 to my desire z and am quite suprised that theres not as much development for this as well.
On the hd2 they could install almost every android rom under the sun and also windows phone 7 which was much better than expected as i used it.
but why cant we do the same as the desire z is all in all a better phone?

The HD2 is the king of XDA nothing else gets close.
We may not have a huge selection of roms but we have is of good quality and comes with good support.
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Hd2 is one of the most versitile phones of all time supporting almost all operating systems so of course it goinna have a more variety of roms
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Yeah thats my only problem the roms that are available for the desire z are amazing. its just coming from a phone that had every single rom ported to it makes me be a bit more choosy with what rom i use

I just switched from hd2 development as well, I guess we were spoiled! I do like the smaller community as your questions get answered in a quick manner.
On a side note...I am getting at least 50mA drain on like 5 different radio/rom/kernel combinations... hd2 nearly all combinations are capable of 2-4mA drain....it's getting frustrating can anyone share their optimal setup for less of a battery drain??

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Nexus one or HTC Desire????

hey guys...
could someone please help me make a choice between these phones. I do root my android phones and therefore the big question is whether i could use a ROM designed for the N1 on the Desire and vice versa? I have read loads of reviews and comparisons about them but i need some DEV help on this...lol
Much appreciated..
I doubt very much whether they would be interchangeable. There are, however ROMs for the N1 which include SenseUI.
Likewise, there are workarounds to enable/disable most (all?) of the N1 features on the Desire.
If you're going to root your phone, AFAIK the only real difference is that the N1 has noise cancellation.
thanks for that... so the nexus one it is!!! lol...
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The desire has more integral memory to run sense nice and smooth though

HTC Desire. Still the best around?

With all the new versions of the Desire becoming available is the original Desire still the best?
I love my desire and I've had it for about 10 months or so. The wife's contract is due for renewal soon and she does seems to like my HTC desire.
It would be her first smart phone.
I'm very pleased with mine. I am currently running an older LeeDroid ROM (Soon to be upgraded with his latest to be released version).
Would the original Desire still cut the mustard for the next 18 months or so?
Desire has been around for around 1 Year and till today it is one of the top phones. I own a Desire myself and have to say it's a great phone till today.
There's quite alot of phones coming out but nothing amazing has come out yet.
Not many people like the new Desire S because it's not that different from the standard Desire.Just a tiny bit different in memory.
Desire HD is quite big and battery life is appaling.
Desire Z quite heavy.
All the new versions aren't that amazing that would make me jump to them instead of staying with my Original Desire.
I've heard good things about the samsung galaxy S 2 which is coming out in March.If you want to consider that.
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There's quite alot of phones coming out but nothing amazing has come out yet.
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True that - I was expecting dual-core HTCs early this year.
The way I see it, the Desire would probably get left behind by HTC in the following 3 or 4 months (right after we get the official Gingerbread in April) to make room for their newer (dual-core?) models. After that? Well, it's up to us to keep it "alive and kicking" with new ROMs and crazy experimental stuff.
I think for new people the Desire S is probably a good choice... enough internal memory and a good size.
I think this is the point of the S... to be something to bring new people in. I love the desire original and wouldn't upgrade to an S
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I think it is one of the best phones around still around.
I like the Desire S, think it looks quite nice, but not enough internal differences to justify an upgrade just yet.
I don't really like the Desire HD. Much too large to use with just one hand. Desire Z is a bit heavy, but I guess it caters for the people who prefer a physical keyboard.
I've still got about 14 months left with my Desire, so nearly 18 months, and I'm more than sure it'll be just fine for that amount of time.
what phone does your wife have at the moment?
I assume not a Desire - Desire / Desire S would make sense unless she wanted a bigger screen (Desire HD)
for me - like Jigswa said - the DHD is too big personally...
Oh also - unless you want rooting and custom roms and stuff - a DS would make sense (over the Desire Original) if you can hold out for it...
The only reason I say it is because its likely to be around for longer than the Desire original from an official capacity...
Lothaen said:
what phone does your wife have at the moment?
I assume not a Desire - Desire / Desire S would make sense unless she wanted a bigger screen (Desire HD)
for me - like Jigswa said - the DHD is too big personally...
Oh also - unless you want rooting and custom roms and stuff - a DS would make sense (over the Desire Original) if you can hold out for it...
The only reason I say it is because its likely to be around for longer than the Desire original from an official capacity...
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She's currently got a Nokia 6700 I think. Nothing fancy. But with her love of Facebook and Angry Birds she want's to now get a smart phone. Oh and something she can use for mobile broadband i.e. tethering.
A colleague of mine has just got a Galaxy S and to me it seemed a bit lightweight and felt plasticy.
I'm, trying to get her a decent 18 month contract. I've seen a few good little deals.
She probably won't want exactly the same phone as me. So maybe a Desire S would be the better option.
Had 2 iPhones before finally taking the plunge into Android. Had my eye on the Desire for awhile and thank god I finally bought it. Running the Oxygen Gingerbread rom ATM.. easiest thing in the world to get running. Had it for about 8 months now too but I won't be upgrading atleast until dual-core htc's.
I know exactly where you are coming from with the Galaxy S feeling light and plasticy - the Desire feels more substantial - as long as you don't want a super light phone!
Also I felt the UI was clunky and too iPhone-esque
the DHD felt heavier than the Desire too.
Desire S will fix any issues with installing stuff to the phone too by having the same storage space as the DHD - it will have Gingerbread out the box, and a nice clean Sense UI win win all round.
Desire S seems a perfect phone for people who don't have Android already IMO!
Apart from weak GPU, weak multi-touch in games, and lack of native DIVX support, I think Desire is still a good phone if those are not important too you. The battery and the internal memory are not issues for me anymore with custom ROMS and HBOOT.
HTC Desire Is 5x better then S(boottime, apps launchtime..so many bugs) i realy like my Desire Using 8 months
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yaqub1 said:
Not many people like the new Desire S because it's not that different from the standard Desire.Just a tiny bit different in memory.
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It is simply amazing how many people claim this, someone would get under impression it is true...
Desire S has moar internal memory, moar ram, packs 2nd generation Qualcomm cpus which rectify the first gen shortcomings, and on top of that, has better battery. Although it is not in the upgrade path for the original Desire owners, it is an upgrade nevertheless and excellent choice for the new users. You are trashing a device with superb specifications b4 it even went retail.
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Desire HD is quite big and battery life is appaling.
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I agree, a colleague of mine has it. My fist is of enough size to comfortably use the biggest mices, yet I can't reach the opposite end of the screen with my thumb
Battery is roughly equal to the original Desire, both devices out of the box.
The biggest issue in my opinion is that they stuffed equal resolution on 0.6" bigger screen. Greater dot pitch usually means lower quality, I haven't used it enough to be 100% sure though.
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The original Desire still has a lot of processing grunt compared to newer phones. Nothing is really better than it so to speak, a few phones are better at some things and worse at other but generally it's pretty level and just comes down to prefferance on a few features.
It'll be a sad day when I do retire my Desire its served me well so far and has at least a year left in it.
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Using my desire over 10 months now. I'm still satisfied with it's performance.
It 's my first htc phone.
I've had some doubts about build quality before, because that was told to me.
I can say that i'm suprised. Beeing always in my pocket without case or screen protection, it is still looking like new.
It is still fast en reliable.
If i would by a new phone, would be desire again or maybe thinking about desire S.
my fist android
From a long line of old symbian nokias i finally decided to make a hole in my budget and to get a new phone. As i was keeping a close eye on Android and the HTC Desire for some time i got that phone.
It was a very good phone with it's stock froyo, and know it's an excellent phone with the Oxygen rom.
As some of the other members say, i do not see any good reason to upgrade maybe until dual-core HTC's come out.
The normal Desire is still up-to-date. But when the Desire S will be out there in the wild it will be the better one. Still that quite compact design, whithout the week points the original archives (internal mem, multitouch).
The cost-benefit analysis will show up that the older Desire will still be ok for a long time even bought new.
I bought my desire 3 months ago, and the only thing that annoys me is the 2-point touchscreen... Multi-touch is a must to a device like this but we can't have everything so apart from that is the best phone i've ever had ! Desire S is cool but in my opinion at the moment we're between a generation change so next stop is dual core, and desire s is single core. I will change my phone next year probably to a htc dual-core that will be announced this year.
My good old desire never lets me down !
I agree with everyone here. It has been an amazing phone. Its handled mass rom fllashhing and crazy overclocking and its handled it brilliantly. Had no problems with it at all. Rather have this than a Nexus, but I would like a DHD because the bigger screen.
I got a Galaxy Tab 4 months ago and since then my Desire has been neglected as it doesn't compete with the Tab. Recently got back into using it and I've realised why I fell in love with it.
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I suggest you stick around with the HTC Desire till the end of the year or whenver Dual Core phones are released. The new models don't offer much of an advantage and I heard the HTC Desire HD has worst voice quality sound than the Desire....... The voice quality sound on the Desire is pretty terrible so I don't know how HTC managed to make it even worst with the Desire HD.
hopefully it will still work
I am not one for changing my phone when something new comes out and unless something breaks it will have to last me 2 years. The worry I have is will the microusb connecter last that long. Supposedly is it designed for up to 10,000 cycles of insertion but my niece has some sort of nokia with this connecter and its a struggle after 14 months to get it to charge (I have had to give her my htc lead and charger as it is the only one that works).
I don't like capitative keys, I had the ipod that had them and it was god awful to use , too sensitive. So the desire s is a step back from my pov
The desire is a nice phone and does me very well thanks

[Q] New phone (Desire Z or Desire HD or HD2)

Hey XDA
Im thinking about getting a new phone but i don't know what one really
Parallel imported Desire Z
Ebay T-mobile G2
Parallel imported Desire HD
Parallel imported HD2
And i dont know what one pro's and cons if possible will be planning to root
hey matey,
if your in the us and dont mind going with tmobile.. id go with the g2.
the difference between desire z and g2 is that the g2 has 4gb of rom for apps but it doesnt have as many signal bands so it can only be used in the us. the desire z only has 1gb rom for apps but has almost all the bands for abroad use.
the HD2 seems to have better battery life but android doesnt run 100% yet.. ive just come from the hd2 to the desire z and personally there's not much difference but the desire Z and HD and G2 have updated tech in them over the HD2 which is understandable.
the Desire HD is much like the hd2 only it has the worst battery life out of all the handsets listed. but it has an extra 256mb of ram over the Desire z and g2 which have 512 mb
the desire z and g2 have second gen snap dragon processors running at 800mhz but they can be overclocked safely to 1.43
the desire hd and hd2 both share the first gen snap dragon processor running at 1ghz i *think*
it all depends on these:
do you want good battery life
do you want to use it out of the US
do you want to have a qwerty keyboard
i have the UK desire z and love it.. ive had no problems with it, the hinge is a tiny bit loose but its meant to be, its very strong though. ive got 50apps installed and still have 900mb out of the 1gb. battery life is around 30hours dependant on usage and ive got the benifit of the qwerty keyboard.
my vote is go for the G2 if your in the US
hope this helps matey
leehopley said:
the difference between desire z and g2 is that the g2 has 4gb of rom for apps but it doesnt have as many signal bands so it can only be used in the us. the desire z only has 1gb rom for apps but has almost all the bands for abroad use.
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both have 2gig storage pal. T-mobile lied.
The Missing 2GB
fair enough then i never knew that (Y) cheers
well i would go with the desire z then, as it has the advantage of all bands
however if u want to mod the phone as much as possible the hd2 has the most development currently with wm6.5 android and windows phone 7
but i preffer android with a qwerty
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the HD2 seems to have better battery life but android doesnt run 100% yet..
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Not true. Coming from the HD2 myself, I can say that the HD2 can run Android 200%. There are SO many developers over there and they even got a very stable port of CM7 (with some customizing) way before RC1 was even released. Battery life is amazing on the HD2, seemingly unbrickable and you couldn't go wrong choosing it.
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leehopley said:
fair enough then i never knew that (Y) cheers
well i would go with the desire z then, as it has the advantage of all bands
however if u want to mod the phone as much as possible the hd2 has the most development currently with wm6.5 android and windows phone 7
but i preffer android with a qwerty
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I second that. I'd get a HD 2 myself if I wasn't so dependent on the kb. Dz all the way for me.
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I live in new zealand so does it matter if its parallel imported?
oh im not knocking the HD2 i had one for over a year, its an amazing phone... but if you want the qwerty board then the desire z or g2 is the android phone for you
hd2 is the best if you want to mod it the most... as i said, it has the most development focus at the moment.
the one thing i didnt like about it was the lack of rom memory, unless its the 1gb tmob edition, although you could use apps2sd to get around this !!
it all depends what you want out of a phone.. for the best phone that can run all the differend mobile os platforms.. HD2, for a mobile thats stable, has decent hardware and has a qwerty then the desire z or g2 if the phone for you... i dont see a slot for the desire hd really... i believe the hd2 is far better than the desire hd as it has more development around it
battery life with my desire z is around 30 hours... with my hd2 i easily got 48
choice is yours (Y)
leehopley said:
oh im not knocking the HD2 i had one for over a year, its an amazing phone... but if you want the qwerty board then the desire z or g2 is the android phone for you
hd2 is the best if you want to mod it the most... as i said, it has the most development focus at the moment.
the one thing i didnt like about it was the lack of rom memory, unless its the 1gb tmob edition, although you could use apps2sd to get around this !!
it all depends what you want out of a phone.. for the best phone that can run all the differend mobile os platforms.. HD2, for a mobile thats stable, has decent hardware and has a qwerty then the desire z or g2 if the phone for you... i dont see a slot for the desire hd really... i believe the hd2 is far better than the desire hd as it has more development around it
battery life with my desire z is around 30 hours... with my hd2 i easily got 48
choice is yours (Y)
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I have to get it parallel imported from hong kong does that matter ?
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I have to get it parallel imported from hong kong does that matter ?
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Update just brought a desire Z because of the keyboard
good choice man! if you need any help rooting, flashing, installing clock work mod and anything else, ill be happy to help !!
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good choice man! if you need any help rooting, flashing, installing clock work mod and anything else, ill be happy to help !!
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Thanks i will take you up on that offer soon
no problem ive accepted your frend request so if u need me just message
I have a HD2 and I want a Desire Z so bad.
They keyboard and next gen snapdragon. Anybody wanna trade?
Btw, the HD2 is semi-bricked (possibly).
Just rooted using gfree and now I'm running ginger villian!!! Overclocked to 1.5 ghz too
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NICE man!!!!
how is the ginger villian? is it stable and whats the battery life like?
and skelly, how did you brick the hd2?!!!
have you got clockwork installed?

Is it a good idea to buy HTC Incredible S instead of HTC Desire?

Only thing it is holding me back because it isn't popular phone so I might don't have much of support or any help for rooting, hardware issue or anything like that. I could just save $150 and go for HTC Desire, but I like 8mpx, front camera and the screen on HTC Incredible S. I like HTC Desire because it is quite popular and it has a lot of support, but Incredible S sounds and look much cooler.
Also excuse me for posting in wrong section, I couldn't find a correct section for general discussion of android phone (hardware).
EDIT: I posted this thread in both section Desire and Incredible S for unbiased opinion.
Two words. Incredible s. If you can wait get a sensation
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Incredible S defenietly has better specifications, but it indeed does not have the same customrom / supportuserbase on xda yet.
Like stated above, the Sensation will be out in 1-2months, and thats a great phone. If you cannot wait and want a new phone now, perhaps the Desire HD is a valid option also (Better than regular Desire, similar specs to Incredible, but awesome support/userbase here on XDA).
Blah id get the lg optimus 2x for that amount of cash (dual corez)
But if i had to choose incredible s (desire is booring)
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I got an Arc to wait for the Sensation with root, I am considering to sell it and get a Desire or DHD just because the Arc while it has root it doesn't have any custom rom!
I sold my 1 year used N1 for 330$ 2 weeks ago so I think selling a Desire or DHD in 2 months will be pretty the same, whereas the SE price droping fast and its lack of popularity will mean that I will sell it for even less than a Desire.
So if you can't live without custom roms more than 2 weeks...buy a good old Desire or DHD!
The Sensation will be out between the 8th and 15th June, add to that another month to find a root and the price to decrease
Well, guys, thanks for replying, but why would you ever mention Sensation? I have a budget and I couldn't shell out that much of money and what I heard, dual-core is a battery drainer plus I don't want 4.3" screen as it's too big for me. Even 4" is, that's why I was going for Desire which is 3.7" or something.
Can you put custom ROM on Incredible S?
^If you're that worried about budget and everything, you might want to look into the Nexus S, it runs better than any of these phones (except dual-core), has decent dev support, is factory-unlocked, and it's more pocket-able than 4.3" phones.
If you're absolutely tied between the Desire and the Incredible S, then go for the Incredible S because of significantly better specs, a newer version of Sense and WAY more onboard memory.
To be honest, the main reasons people here work on custom roms, is because we don't have Sense 2.0 on the Desire without an Ace rom (DHD), because of memory limitations (147MB on stock partition table, vs 1.1GB in Incredible S), to make it run faster, or to run MIUI or AOSP.
Sense is great, and with the Incredible S, your phone will run better than a Desire running sense ever would, so go with that!
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^If you're that worried about budget and everything, you might want to look into the Nexus S, it runs better than any of these phones (except dual-core), has decent dev support, is factory-unlocked, and it's more pocket-able than 4.3" phones.
If you're absolutely tied between the Desire and the Incredible S, then go for the Incredible S because of significantly better specs, a newer version of Sense and WAY more onboard memory.
To be honest, the main reasons people here work on custom roms, is because we don't have Sense 2.0 on the Desire without an Ace rom (DHD), because of memory limitations (147MB on stock partition table, vs 1.1GB in Incredible S), to make it run faster, or to run MIUI or AOSP.
Sense is great, and with the Incredible S, your phone will run better than a Desire running sense ever would, so go with that!
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I couldn't go for Google Nexus S because it doesn't have support in Moscow, Russia e.g if I have hardware failure or such, I couldn't take it to the support.
Sounds like I wouldn't need to change ROM on Incredible S but I would like to be able to root it to have full power on it. Is Android applications depended of which phone model do you have (I'm already aware it's depended of android version)?
Also, is dev support is that important? If it is, then I guess I should fall back down to HTC Desire.
Also, I'm pretty tired of this 5 minutes limit for editing/posting, when will it get removed?
If you are in desperate need of a new phone and you can afford something more expensive than Desire, I think you should get either Incredible S or Nexus S.
If you can wait and still afford the price when it comes to the market, I think Sensation would be the better option.
The good old Desire is still a good option to get. Despite of all its weaknesses due to being an old model with old specs, Desire is very cheap at this moment, especially the second handed one.
I had a Desire about a year ago, then moved to the Samsung Galaxy S.
But just today I bought a Desire for £200 brand new, I couldn't resist as it's just such a good phone!
Running AdamG's Oxygen ROM on it now, it's so awesome!
Oh well I just discovered the weather from Sense 3.0 has been ported to DHD in a 100% workingl rom, the Desire will follow shortly
I guess it boils down to price for you by the sounds of it. Also consider if you are big in to gaming and video as Incredible GPU is much better than Desire from what I can remember. Is the Incredible locked though, as in bootloader/ROM's? Also something to bear in mind.
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If you can I'd get a desire s sounds about right for you.
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Ill sell u my white htc desire good condition with 16gb class 10 card (13mb write 23mb read) and all manuals headphones usb charger. Unlocked running miui 1.4.29
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Buying a desire!

I'm looking to buy an HTC Desire, what are your guys opinion on it?
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You won't be disappointed. ;-)
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This is the same like asking for samsung galaxy s2 in galaxy s2 forum. Dude, you should be some objective research to get an idea of the desire.
All I can say is: It's awesome!!!
Big step up from wilfire
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I'm kinda looking for the end-users feel on the phone cause HTC doesn't put that kinda stuff on their website.
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I haven't had a single problem with it
And as it is a very popular phone, there is a lot of support in the way of custom ROMs so you're never short of choice (Although CyanogenMod is definitely the best)!
A little cautious note though...
There are well spread report of the Desire's mainboard failing because of overheat...
There's a thread here in XDA about that...
At the moment the desire is a pretty good phone. Most custom roms for this phone. But if you want something worth buying check out the Samsung galaxy s2. Just look around for a good deal!
My friend got the s2 and I don't like it at all. Too light.
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Desire has been great for me for the last year or so.
But that's the point. It's old now, why would you get a phone that's so old ?
I still have mine because I don't see a clear upgrade path, yet. I'm waiting for a decent multi core handset to come along, hopefully with some fancy bells and whistles attached and perhaps hard qwerty.
As soon as these requirements are made I'm off !
I do hope you're able to buy for super rock bottom discount prices or you're being done.
I think that a Desire S is more recommended.
Sense 2.1, 768 Ram, 1Gb rom, aluminium unibody, gorilla glass, etc.
But a multi core phone is the best upgrade...
I would say a Desire S is certainly a better choice... All the good features of the Desire, with a little more processing power, more RAM and more internal storage...
Desire has the limited internal storage problem!!
Desire
Hi I would definitely not buy desire now.
Don`t get me wrong I own a desire and it is a great phone, but it is simply outdated (mainly because of the lack of memory).
Update to 2.3.3 helped a little bit with the memory issue, but when buying now, look for something which has more memory in it.
yes if you get one cheap the go for it - don't get tied into stupid contract from carrier or similar.
Phones really need mobile data rates to improve in speed and consistency before I seriously invest any more money. Everything seems to be about games and video that drain batteries too fast.
Okay guys thanks for your help! Gonna get a sensation instead!
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Very nice choice that one, but I have to say someone in work has got the SGS2 and Oh my god that thing is fast and also will not suffer like all the HTC phones that have rubbish memory built in, but saying that I have had my desire for over a year and love it to bits with the custom roms and partion on my sd card for more memory.
But going from the wildfire to the sensation should be huge !!! hope you enjoy it
I have mine a year now and I can honestly say It is by far the best phone Ive ever had
However as someone else mentioned it is getting on a bit now
I will be changing up soon , probably around xmas
Liking the look of the MIUI phone if I can get my hands on one
Depends on what you want to do with the phone. The Desire is still a good phone, and depending on your needs, may fit the bill. If it is much cheaper than then the Desire S, for example, then it may be a good choice.
If you're into gaming then you'll probably want to go dual-core. Maybe wait for the Nexus 3 (or prime, or whatever it's called) annd hope for a discount on other phones.
Do it. But it has limited storage internal. So think about that first
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Best phone I've had yet, very tweekable.
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