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Solution for missing + sign when replying for 2nd time

It looks like HTC has heared us...
http://rapidshare.com/files/261809415/RHO07401.exe.html

Problems Immediately
It doesn't work with my ROM which is 1.19.401.0 WWE
can maybe someone look into that? There were no new ROM updates, HTC says that WWE ROM is 1.19.479.0

Is there any info that goes with this?
Where did you find it?

htc official site. look ati it, but many are having the same problem challenger150 describet, me too. I agree with the one who said that they must have done it in a hurry, and so f****d up something with the version numbers.

challenger150 said:
It doesn't work with my ROM which is 1.19.401.0 WWE
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Wow, my ROM is 1.14.161.5 - does that mean I have a really old version?
I have a Vodafone version and I got it just one week ago

i get the error message " This hotfix is not compatible with your device." on 1.19.404.0 (51489) NLD (dutch)
on the HTC homepage i see that this is for 1.19.404.1

yup, same here.

Solution for you
It is just an exe wrapper around a cab file.
To bypass the exe you just have to extract file's contents with winrar
and then recreate the cab file.
to install you can simply click on the cab you've just created
..and you're done

LinoX said:
It is just an exe wrapper around a cab file.
To bypass the exe you just have to extract file's contents with winrar
and then recreate the cab file.
to install you can simply click on the cab you've just created
..and you're done
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You also could simply extract the .exe, then rename the files according to the setup.xml and then copy the files into the \windows folder.
The point is, that these files are officially been made for a ROM-version I don't have on my phone (I admit, it couldn't be found anywhere either) and there have to be a reason for this.
I would not like to have to hardreset my device now if anything messed up.
I think I'll wait for the next information from HTC to come. Maybe they'll come up with a hotfixed hotfix ( ) or a new ROM version

First, Linox, you are genius. Followed what you said and got the info that phone is updated.
Second. I have one question which is more rhetorical than realistic. I believe that me, as well as other TP2 owners gave a lot of money for it (expect those who got it in poker game or similar ). The question is how is it that a phone which costs like 3-4 other (samsung, sony, blablabla phones) gets hotfixes that don't work? Why are Hotfixes necessary? How hard it is to give 100 phones to real HTC users and wait for respond from them? They would definitely see that there are some errors which NEED to be fixed before launching the phone. HTC is not a new company. They exist for at least 8 years now. They should know how phones should be made.
Finally, I got my phone from Frankuft airport a week after official release. The price was around 900 Eur. I believe that you guys paid something similar. More or less. How is it that a phone that should be Iphone killer (and it definetly looks like one) has more problems than that stupid Iphone? Do HTC guys have money to buy other phones and look how some things are made? Why do I have to read so much about entering registry, changing it and modifying it in order to make my phone work normally? I mean, all of you guys who do it and play around with your phones to make ours work THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT A LOT. Maybe HTC should consider paying you to test their phones and make updates.

challenger150 said:
First, Linox, you are genius. Followed what you said and got the info that phone is updated.
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Would you be so kind to share your selfmade .cab file with us? So not everybody needs to install a .cab-maker and mess with the files for himself
According to your "rhetorical" question:
I believe you cannot test everything and everywhere. Even with 100 testers some users will experience other "issues". I state, that the best solution for this is a flexible and fast support -and this is where HTC sucks.
As soon as some users come up with a problem, HTC should work on the solution and come up with a fix as fast as possible.
The SMS-problem is know for long now and 1 1/2 months later they come up with a hotfix which does not work -too little, too late.
Overall, I have to say, the TP2 is a very stable and fast phone, considering the fact that it's Windows Mobile. Just think about the Blackberry Storm my girlfriend owns: 4th firmware update and still buggy as hell. Or think about the Nokia N95: years of experience in building phones and they release such a sleazy and buggy piece of crap for an large amount of money.
The SMS bug of the TP2 is bad but you can still use the windows-messaging so it's half as bad as it could be.
Hehe, think about the bugs that will come up when the first 6.5-ROM is released

LOL!!!
I don't even want to imagine that. Comments like "I bricked my TP2" and similar. That will be interesting definitely, and yes, you are right. Maybe 100 users wont solve anything but how is it that other phones don't have such problems or as you mentioned problems are solved but MUCH faster.
And finally, I placed the .rar file on rapidshare. You can download it, place it on phone memory or storage card and run. In second or so you will get info that operation has completed successfully.
I hope I did it right as explained in previous threads.
link is: http://rapidshare.com/files/262084697/RHO07401.cab.html

Dont forget to soft reset your phone
By the way, I tested it by sending 3 messages to my own number. The thing works and I didn't received strange information from operator that this phone number doesn't exist.

challenger150 said:
Dont forget to soft reset your phone
By the way, I tested it by sending 3 messages to my own number. The thing works and I didn't received strange information from operator that this phone number doesn't exist.
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You cannot test this by sending a message to your own number. The first replay to a number will always work. only when you send a 2nd, 3rd, etc. message, it will go wrong. When you are sending a message to yourself, you will always replay 1 time because you will recive the message immidiatly...
Ranney

HTC official support told me to wait a few days since it's still a work in progress, so probably they will release another version or a corrected one for this hotfix.

Kinda reminds me of the "Hotfixes" for the Touch HD, which initially broke more than they fixed....
Quality control anyone?

challenger150 said:
First, Linox, you are genius. Followed what you said and got the info that phone is updated.
Second. I have one question which is more rhetorical than realistic. I believe that me, as well as other TP2 owners gave a lot of money for it (expect those who got it in poker game or similar ). The question is how is it that a phone which costs like 3-4 other (samsung, sony, blablabla phones) gets hotfixes that don't work? Why are Hotfixes necessary? How hard it is to give 100 phones to real HTC users and wait for respond from them? They would definitely see that there are some errors which NEED to be fixed before launching the phone. HTC is not a new company. They exist for at least 8 years now. They should know how phones should be made.
Finally, I got my phone from Frankuft airport a week after official release. The price was around 900 Eur. I believe that you guys paid something similar. More or less. How is it that a phone that should be Iphone killer (and it definetly looks like one) has more problems than that stupid Iphone? Do HTC guys have money to buy other phones and look how some things are made? Why do I have to read so much about entering registry, changing it and modifying it in order to make my phone work normally? I mean, all of you guys who do it and play around with your phones to make ours work THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT A LOT. Maybe HTC should consider paying you to test their phones and make updates.
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900 euros!!!! Man you're crazy it cost 550 euros unbranded without contract...

it fix the issue, but i have another problem now...
all my contact did not showed when when they call me or sms me....
any solution?

albertlgh said:
it fix the issue, but i have another problem now...
all my contact did not showed when when they call me or sms me....
any solution?
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Don't have any idea. I didn't touch the files. I simply un-rared them and rar-ed them again. As explained.
All of my contacts are there. And they show up when calling together with the photos.
Try maybe syncing with Outlook again.

Sebacestmoi_666 said:
900 euros!!!! Man you're crazy it cost 550 euros unbranded without contract...
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I paid for it that money. It was in Frankfurt Airport. Since I live in croatia, this phone will most probably cost even more. Just like it was with other HTC models.
Only in "developed" countries these phones have normal price tag since HTC sells there directly. Here, we don't have HTC office but a sub-licensee who will not even fix this phone if something happens while on international warranty.
So, yes I paid around 900Euro to get mine. If you need I think I still have a receipt somewhere, I'll be glad to upload it.

Got a replacement ATT Tilt2 today

The difference so far has been beyond night and day.
This thing is still very cherry.
I am avoiding adding anything to it right now as I have previously posted that Tilt2 may be a dog.
Kind of thinking I was right.
I will be trying patiently, for a little bit, before I add many programs to it.
The performance within a few minutes of using has been astounding.
Also some interesting, unexpected surprises.
Any and all questions will be accepted.
WOW

nycny said:
The difference so far has been beyond night and day.
This thing is still very cherry.
I am avoiding adding anything to it right now as I have previously posted that Tilt2 may be a dog.
Kind of thinking I was right.
I will be trying patiently, for a little bit, before I add many programs to it.
The performance within a few minutes of using has been astounding.
Also some interesting, unexpected surprises.
Any and all questions will be accepted.
WOW
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I'm curious to hear any specifics on how the behavior of the new one is noticibly different than that of the first one you had...I'm particularly looking for connections/exclusions related to hardware and specific issues.
I'm assuming that your replacement came from the same path/source as the original one? What did you tell them to get them to give you a replacement unit? AT&T branded store, or reseller?
Thanks man, mostly just my hyperactive curiousity asking

sirphunkee said:
I'm curious to hear any specifics on how the behavior of the new one is noticibly different than that of the first one you had...I'm particularly looking for connections/exclusions related to hardware and specific issues.
I'm assuming that your replacement came from the same path/source as the original one? What did you tell them to get them to give you a replacement unit? AT&T branded store, or reseller?
Thanks man, mostly just my hyperactive curiousity asking
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Original purchased through WalMart Lets Talk on Black Friday. (free). hmm..
Equipment failed several times variously along voice audio path.
Replacement from ATT Ft. Worth TX
This thing is still very cherry. Only a couple hours usage.
Have only added MyPhone and contacts from MyPhone Backup.
Opera 9.5 experience has been unusual to me in that it recognized my email profile without any input from me other than inserting sim card and opening Opera 9.5 and selecting mail from ATT Yahoo default web page.
All browsing within Yahoo mail has been very quick.
Not my prior experience, which was very slow to refresh/update.

sirphunkee said:
I'm curious to hear any specifics on how the behavior of the new one is noticibly different than that of the first one you had...I'm particularly looking for connections/exclusions related to hardware and specific issues.
I'm assuming that your replacement came from the same path/source as the original one? What did you tell them to get them to give you a replacement unit? AT&T branded store, or reseller?
Thanks man, mostly just my hyperactive curiousity asking
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Connection/exclusion of what?
What do you mean?
Not getting it.

nycny said:
Connection/exclusion of what?
What do you mean?
Not getting it.
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This thing is still very cherry.
Other than default profile, I will be very reluctant to explore very far from there.

So, is it very cherry?

kimtyson said:
So, is it very cherry?
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lol careful what you ask for
nycny said:
Connection/exclusion of what?
What do you mean?
Not getting it.
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I was just trying to figure out which of the issues you originally had could be attributed to hardware pretty much...but between those, the sound problem you just mentioned, and your considerably improved experience with the new one, it's clear you just had a bum unit all around. Thanks for the feedback though

kimtyson said:
So, is it very cherry?
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Cherry is a fruit, quite delicious to taste, spoils quickly, if not gathered and consumed soon.
Meaning that no software other than default is installed.
Default test module or whatever you want to call it.
Out of the box unmodified other to install MyPhone so I could make some calls.
In the American English idiom, untouched. Virgin.
Working very well.
Windows Mobile ATT most recent stock ROM as far as I can tell.
If you have a question about operation or state of ROM, please ask.
As the cherry my offer won't last long.
Did you read the beginning of the post?
(I can see why some of you older guys get tired with us cherries, we don't last long)

nycny said:
Cherry is a fruit, quite delicious to taste, spoils quickly, if not gathered and consumed soon.
Meaning that no software other than default is installed.
Default test module or whatever you want to call it.
Out of the box unmodified other to install MyPhone so I could make some calls.
In the American English idiom, untouched. Virgin.
Working very well.
Windows Mobile ATT most recent stock ROM as far as I can tell.
If you have a question about operation or state of ROM, please ask.
As the cherry my offer won't last long.
Did you read the beginning of the post?
(I can see why some of you older guys get tired with us cherries, we don't last long)
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Laughing at my self!

Mangos out for Devs

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...velopers-get-goody-basket-full-of-mangos.aspx
Hopefully we can install it on unlocked devices.

Crazziee said:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...velopers-get-goody-basket-full-of-mangos.aspx
Hopefully we can install it on unlocked devices.
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let us pray

They say the rom can only be flashed once by a dev once it's downloaded. I wonder if that's going to be a problem for some dev teams.

I'm curious about how much security Microsoft has put into this, and how it's gonna work. If it's an image, we can extract it. If it's one of those CAB-based updates, we can.. obtain it. But here's my guess-Microsoft probably added some serious security, given as they know what we attempt, and there may very well be some activation involved in this.
Anyone who gets it install wanna comment?

Actually the big issue for me, when I read the mile long remarks you have to accept to get it is this:
you can't update to the final Mango without rolling back first to the backup you do now.
So when final Mango will come out, I will lose all my sms, game progress, etc I got from now to this winter. I'm not sure I'd like to that

Did anyone of you already get a email by Connect?
I am registered via Dreamspark and didn't get a mail yet.
Do only the paying people getting the update and students not?

freeriders said:
Did anyone of you already get a email by Connect?
I am registered via Dreamspark and didn't get a mail yet.
Do only the paying people getting the update and students not?
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Students will get it, but it's a phased roll out right now. What I heard, anyway

Jaxbot said:
Students will get it, but it's a phased roll out right now. What I heard, anyway
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Ok that's good to hear.

"Next two weeks" is the timeline, I think

andycted said:
"Next two weeks" is the timeline, I think
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Cue the NoDo roll out jokes, please

Damn I wish I registered for a developer account last year like I planned. Guess I need to register now.
https://twitter.com/#!/BrandonWatson/status/86091869116825600
http://create.msdn.com/en-US/news/Mango_Beta

i'm registered, i'm from poland and i can't download mango rom

andycted said:
Actually the big issue for me, when I read the mile long remarks you have to accept to get it is this:
you can't update to the final Mango without rolling back first to the backup you do now.
So when final Mango will come out, I will lose all my sms, game progress, etc I got from now to this winter. I'm not sure I'd like to that
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Maybe the anytime backup tool will help...

fb401 said:
They say the rom can only be flashed once by a dev once it's downloaded. I wonder if that's going to be a problem for some dev teams.
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I asked to Brandon Watson and got an answer :
BrandonWatson said:
@xcell_miguel update all your phones, we will only support one if it breaks
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Miguel12345 said:
I asked to Brandon Watson and got an answer :
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So wait.. we can update multiple phones?

Jaxbot said:
So wait.. we can update multiple phones?
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That doesn't sound too logical to me, but will try it as soon as I get the email.
EDIT: It's true. Update up to 10 (3 for students), get one replaced if something goes wrong.

It makes perfect sense to me — they'll only replace one phone per account if the update bricks your phone. But if you're willing to take the risk, you can update more phones.

nezz said:
That doesn't sound too logical to me, but will try it as soon as I get the email.
EDIT: It's true. Update up to 10 (3 for students), get one replaced if something goes wrong.
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so developper can share it so?

they should be able to.

Can someone explain the procedure? Haven't got my mail yet.

HTC 10 Training Unit

Just wondering if anyone here is familiar with 'training units' of the HTC 10. A seller says he used to work for HTC, who gave him brand new phones to train employees on. The phones are brand new and say 'Not For Sale' on the back, but they work just like a regular unit. The other catch is he says they do not support software updates, but he thinks you can update them manually. I figure that updates not supported would mean that they will not get OTA updates, but that you could flash them yourself. Anyone know for sure, I don't see why not?

YrrchSebor said:
Just wondering if anyone here is familiar with 'training units' of the HTC 10. A seller says he used to work for HTC, who gave him brand new phones to train employees on. The phones are brand new and say 'Not For Sale' on the back, but they work just like a regular unit. The other catch is he says they do not support software updates, but he thinks you can update them manually. I figure that updates not supported would mean that they will not get OTA updates, but that you could flash them yourself. Anyone know for sure, I don't see why not?
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I've had these before and have been an ambassador for htc too.
Granted the phones were a little older but htc don't change their ways [emoji6]
Also so long as the hardware hasn't been modified, for example some demo units (Samsung) they remove the antennas and other critical components for making calls and texts, not on all devices and I've never seen htc do this either, you can make calls, text, mobile data works etc?
Also check the bootloader and download mode screens.. See what info you have there.. Input the info you see there here.
We need more information.
I'm pretty sure it can be made to stock but we need to clarify some things first.

dladz said:
I've had these before and have been an ambassador for htc too.
Granted the phones were a little older but htc don't change their ways [emoji6]
Also so long as the hardware hasn't been modified, for example some demo units (Samsung) they remove the antennas and other critical components for making calls and texts, not on all devices and I've never seen htc do this either, you can make calls, text, mobile data works etc?
Also check the bootloader and download mode screens.. See what info you have there.. Input the info you see there here.
We need more information.
I'm pretty sure it can be made to stock but we need to clarify some things first.
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Thanks for the response, I appreciate it! Unfortunately i never picked one up. I kinda hesitated because I wasn't sure, then I decided to post here, but now the seller must have sold them all. He did say that they worked 100%, but had a couple markings to dintinguish them and don't support software updates. Anyway, thanks a lot!

YrrchSebor said:
Thanks for the response, I appreciate it! Unfortunately i never picked one up. I kinda hesitated because I wasn't sure, then I decided to post here, but now the seller must have sold them all. He did say that they worked 100%, but had a couple markings to dintinguish them and don't support software updates. Anyway, thanks a lot!
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No problem, they can be made to be normal though.. The seller doesn't know what they're talking about. either way, no point now. Also the markings could be a screen protector or a film the devices are usually just stock international devices. A lot of them are s-off out the box. Keep an eye if more become available.

dladz said:
No problem, they can be made to be normal though.. The seller doesn't know what they're talking about. either way, no point now. Also the markings could be a screen protector or a film the devices are usually just stock international devices. A lot of them are s-off out the box. Keep an eye if more become available.
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What he said was it said 'not for sale' on the back, had a very small marking on the front to indicate training phone, and software updates were not supported. But I believe he meant via OTA..... I figured it could be flashed tho, and I can't remember the last time I waited for an OTA anyway, as opposed to just grabbing the firmware myself
Anyway, I already bought a different phone but there is also this ad if you wanna check it out. This one seems a bit different tho. Previous one was not a store unit.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mob/5977264688.html

YrrchSebor said:
What he said was it said 'not for sale' on the back, had a very small marking on the front to indicate training phone, and software updates were not supported. But I believe he meant via OTA..... I figured it could be flashed tho, and I can't remember the last time I waited for an OTA anyway, as opposed to just grabbing the firmware myself
Anyway, I already bought a different phone but there is also this ad if you wanna check it out. This one seems a bit different tho. Previous one was not a store unit.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mob/5977264688.html
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Haha no worries mate I'm good. Cheers though. Take care.

Huawei stops support on package updates?

Just went on emui.huawei.com to copy and provide a link of an EMUI 5 update for an user in need, and this i what I've got (see pic in attachment). Huawei already removed almost every package from their consumers site, and the page will be even closed standing to what is wrote on the pop-up notice... What do you think about this (in my opinion) bad move that Huawei choose to make about update packages?

What a strange move with a pure PR reason given too

Enddo said:
What a strange move with a pure PR reason given too
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Seems really an hazardous movement since that i don't think that the problem could ever be servers costs the packages are extremely useful particularly for customers allowing them to restore soft-bricked phones...

That is awful, what if someone got a bootloop and needs a package?!

What a stupid move from Huawei. I feel more comfortable by going to an official site and download the firmware from there, but now Huawei will make lots of users uncomfortable

Thats bad. noob user who brick their phones may have found such things useful now they are stuck

Meh...
Not a big deal. My Mate 9 does not have any update packages to begin with on that site so i use this
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tools/general/huawei-firmware-finder-team-mt-t3469146

Prolim123 said:
Meh...
Not a big deal. My Mate 9 does not have any update packages to begin with on that site so i use this
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tools/general/huawei-firmware-finder-team-mt-t3469146
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Ofcourse there is backup frok Team MT.
But official is something different. 3rd party may shutdown anytime as they basically might be taking the packages from backend Huawei database and if they restrict then we may be stuck

Huawei you should think again .. And think again with your bootloader unlocking server .. You remembered me apple strategies !!

What's wrong with them ,why on earth they did this , this is just bad

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That is awful, what if someone got a bootloop and needs a package?!
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Yeah the necessity to have a secure package ready to flash that could fix your phone is the thing that matters most, minding at the fact that developers could rely on original sources...
Kizoky said:
What a stupid move from Huawei. I feel more comfortable by going to an official site and download the firmware from there, but now Huawei will make lots of users uncomfortable
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Exactly my point of view and even my feeling about it man.
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Thats bad. noob user who brick their phones may have found such things useful now they are stuck
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Even not-noob users that count on finding official firmware directly by OEM official site!
Prolim123 said:
Meh...
Not a big deal. My Mate 9 does not have any update packages to begin with on that site so i use this
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tools/general/huawei-firmware-finder-team-mt-t3469146
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Yes but firmware finder never could be satisfying compared to an accurate package SURELY compatible with your phone variant, provided by your phone's manufacturer, and so, 100% working!

shashank1320 said:
Ofcourse there is backup frok Team MT.
But official is something different. 3rd party may shutdown anytime as they basically might be taking the packages from backend Huawei database and if they restrict then we may be stuck
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I know. Just wanted to say that it's not all doom and gloom just because Huawei did it

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I know. Just wanted to say that it's not all doom and gloom just because Huawei did it
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No one said this by what i can read, it's simply a move that (with no doubts) leave users perplexed.

I had my hopes in Huawei/Honor, but this is one big step back in my opinion. Supplying the customers with downloadable firmware packages is the least you could expect. That's a shame.. ?
My next phone will not be from Huawei.

Seems like Huawei is trying it's best to make it's services worst in Mobile Phone market. Good try Huawei, you had good days and as I said you "had".

horizophon said:
Supplying the customers with downloadable firmware packages is the least you could expect. That's a shame.. ?
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Definitely agree with you, is just the minimum that a person could except from his phone's brand. Even the time that they keep supporting phones on updates is minor than other manufacturers, (Samsung for example) and they decide to remove released packages too now.

Ugh. As a Mate 2 user I thought my firmware had disappeared due to age. Now apparently this is a trend for Huawei. Can you say "forced obsolescence" folks?
For what it's worth, I did find the following link from Huawei that seems to house the firmware:
http://m.huawei.com/pkmobile/consumer/support/downloads/index.htm
Got to it from my phone; haven't tried it from my desktop.
But who knows how long that will last?

I got mine from my device support page where you'd find the manual and stuff:
http://consumer.huawei.com/kw-en/support/products/downloads/mediapad-t1-7-kwen.htm

Bratzilla said:
For what it's worth, I did find the following link from Huawei that seems to house the firmware:
http://m.huawei.com/pkmobile/consumer/support/downloads/index.htm
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Can't find my BLN-L21 package, but at least it's still something. We'll see how much it'll last...
Jhnoth said:
I got mine from my device support page where you'd find the manual and stuff:
http://consumer.huawei.com/kw-en/support/products/downloads/mediapad-t1-7-kwen.htm
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On this page, my phone isn't even listed for technical definitions

RedSkull23 said:
Can't find my BLN-L21 package, but at least it's still something. We'll see how much it'll last...
On this page, my phone isn't even listed for technical definitions
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Same here! Thankful I downloaded Emui 3 (Lollipop) for MT2-L03 a while ago. My phone has long since disappeared.
Another thing: I sent a technical question to the Huawei Emui team almost a week ago - still no response. Coincidence? Hard to believe this isn't somehow related. And I don't usually wear tinfoil hats.