I'm running CM7 RC1v2 and I didn't have any connection for a little until I just switched basebands but it's switched automatically from 3G to an H, is that good or bad?
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H stand for HDSPA or High-Speed Downlink Packet Access or 3,5G.
It's faster than 3G and if avaiable in your region and carrier it's good. Don't worry
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I'm with tmobile is this like 4g?
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not really, 4G is a different protocol and network, even faster than those described in my prior post. Just like 3g and HDSPA are different from EDGE or 2G.
4G isn't even supported by our device. As I'm a stranger to T-mobile I can't confirm which networks they make available to you, but if you have an H icon in your defy and it's surfing the web normally, you obviously have HDSPA coverage where you are.
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When my phone switches from 3g to 1x what does 1x mean?
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Weak signal, usually means youre roaming.
RileyGrant said:
Weak signal, usually means youre roaming.
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It is slow Internet. You don't have a strong signal to 3g, roaming has nothing to do with internet, it has to do with reception...
1xRTT, predecessor to 3g. slower.
I would make sense for it to mean a different band....but I have been seeing this 1x in the CM rom I am running. It happens EVERY time I send a text. It switches from 3g to 1x over the bars.
Yet when the text is sent then I have 3g again and I test it by opening up a browser and watching the data arrows while it still says 3g.
Something odd here.
Q for the OP:....what ROM are u running?
I believe it's cause it's a CDMA phone so the internet sends through the voice line which explains why you can't use 3g during a call.
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sablesurfer said:
I would make sense for it to mean a different band....but I have been seeing this 1x in the CM rom I am running. It happens EVERY time I send a text. It switches from 3g to 1x over the bars.
Yet when the text is sent then I have 3g again and I test it by opening up a browser and watching the data arrows while it still says 3g.
Something odd here.
Q for the OP:....what ROM are u running?
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4.6b2 one of mikfroyo's its a modified odex. its been themed, i noticed it switching on. i have seen it before on cm also.
It means slower then sh*t! lol
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When my phone switches from 3g to 1x what does 1x mean?
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there is a roaming indicator to notify if roaming. 1x does not 'usually mean youre roaming.'.
CDMA2000 1x is a standard that
aims to bring high data rate capabilities to
wireless communication products. It
supports both voice and 153 Kbps of data
using the same bandwidth configuration as
legacy IS-95A1
CDMA networks (i.e., 1.25
megahertz (MHz) channel bandwidth). This
commonality gives 1x technology
backwards compatibility with IS-95A – the
standards can co-exist in the same system.
When 1x technology is fully implemented,
users will not be required to discard their IS-
95A handsets; however, the additional
capabilities offered by 1x technology will
not operate on IS-95A handsets.
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there is a roaming indicator to notify if roaming. 1x does not 'usually mean youre roaming.'.
CDMA2000 1x is a standard that
aims to bring high data rate capabilities to
wireless communication products. It
supports both voice and 153 Kbps of data
using the same bandwidth configuration as
legacy IS-95A1
CDMA networks (i.e., 1.25
megahertz (MHz) channel bandwidth). This
commonality gives 1x technology
backwards compatibility with IS-95A – the
standards can co-exist in the same system.
When 1x technology is fully implemented,
users will not be required to discard their IS-
95A handsets; however, the additional
capabilities offered by 1x technology will
not operate on IS-95A handsets.
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This is the correct answer.
Additionally, any AOSP ROM and a few Sense ROMs (EViO and Mik come to mind) accurately indicate signal strength. This is most often 1x on the Sprint network.
Don't be fooled into believing you once had a stronger signal, you didn't. If you live in the same place you have lived while using the EVO, nothing has changed except the accuracy of your signal indication. Switch back to a typical sense ROM and you'll see 3g all day long.
Also, mms are sent via 1x, while browsing etc is done via 3-4g as available. If nothing has changed but your ROM, you are good.
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Reception is weak in my office at work. On my previous phone, Motorola Defy, I noticed my data would go back and forth between 'H' and '3G'.
With my GS2, data is stuck on 4G. I have watched it for hours now and even though I have no bars it does not change. Am I missing something? Is my device defective?
I appreciate your help with this.
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There might not be a 3G (icon) for the phone which is why it stays on 4G rather than drop to 3G.
At least that is the case with my G2X, it is either 4G or 2G but never 3G.
Not sure why, but that's how they made it.
Have you done a speed test to see if you are on 4G or not?
This phone also might have better connectivity to the network.
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I can at least confirm there is an E for edge Found out today at my apartment in Boston (normally I have 4G with great speeds in Boston, but I guess the bathroom doesn't get good reception)
Thanks for the replies. Yes I ran 4 speed tests this morning in 4G and my max was 1490 Mbps so I think it's working well.
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There actually is a 3g icon. It is only displayed for Umts networks. The reason it was done that way is because there is no way to differentiate hspa from hspa+. Two network technologies for 3g were in use anyways and so it was easier to display all hspa and hspa+ networks as 4g and all umts as 3g.
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Edit due to phone auto correct fail.
I really just don't understand why T-mobile wouldn't include the ability to connect to 3G as well as H+ with this phone. It just sucks because you literally can't do anything on edge and it's pretty much useless. Is there any possible way to enable 3G and H+ through the APN's or something. (I did search around for this but couldn't find anything) Also it can apparently connect to AT&T 3G so wouldn't that show that it might be able to connect to T-mobile 3G in some way? (unless I'm completely wrong in assuming this lol)
Aren't our phones 4g?
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I really just don't understand why T-mobile wouldn't include the ability to connect to 3G as well as H+ with this phone. It just sucks because you literally can't do anything on edge and it's pretty much useless. Is there any possible way to enable 3G and H+ through the APN's or something. (I did search around for this but couldn't find anything) Also it can apparently connect to AT&T 3G so wouldn't that show that it might be able to connect to T-mobile 3G in some way? (unless I'm completely wrong in assuming this lol)
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All of tmo's 3g is H , you just can't connect to AT&T's 3g unless you have an AT&T sim card and are unlocked ...
You will just normally get an H instead of it saying 3g, IF you can't get H then you are not in a "Tmobile 3g area" ...
TMO H+ should show as 4g, but that depends on the ROM you are using, I don't remember what stock looked like .... I know mine says H when I am on tmo 3g and 4g when on H+ ...
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All of tmo's 3g is H , you just can't connect to AT&T's 3g unless you have an AT&T sim card and are unlocked ...
You will just normally get an H instead of it saying 3g, IF you can't get H then you are not in a "Tmobile 3g area" ...
TMO H+ should show as 4g, but that depends on the ROM you are using, I don't remember what stock looked like .... I know mine says H when I am on tmo 3g and 4g when on H+ ...
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Ohhhh now I get it lol I always wondered what the difference was between 4G and H on the status bar. Thanks a lot for clearing that up.
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Aren't our phones 4g?
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Yea but my question was for when we couldn't get 4g, but like tcboo said, H is 3G while 4G is actually H+.
Yeah he's correct 3g was just standbye, when data was being used it become H, data on my phone is 4g tho I don't see an H+
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relldroid said:
Aren't our phones 4g?
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Tmobile doesn't have 4G
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our 4g is actually 3g+ lol so all we have is 3g lol
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our 4g is actually 3g+ lol so all we have is 3g lol
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Actually I believe if you check the ITU standards H+ qualifies for 4g so it can be called 4g , really when it was released 4g did not even qualify as 4g ....
When you are using 4g you will see both data and standby as 4g only when on "3g" will it show "3g" during non-data usage and will show H during data usage ... (or it should , might be different if using a non-stock ROM)
EDIT: 3g/H/4g/H+ , really when it comes down to it the name does not matter, the speed of the network is what matters, they can call it "BubbaSmith" band and I would not care, it is the speed that makes the actual difference ...
and in my "4g" area, TMO currently smokes VZ/AT&T "4g" ..
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Actually I believe if you check the ITU standards H+ qualifies for 4g so it can be called 4g , really when it was released 4g did not even qualify as 4g ....
When you are using 4g you will see both data and standby as 4g only when on "3g" will it show "3g" during non-data usage and will show H during data usage ... (or it should , might be different if using a non-stock ROM)
EDIT: 3g/H/4g/H+ , really when it comes down to it the name does not matter, the speed of the network is what matters, they can call it "BubbaSmith" band and I would not care, it is the speed that makes the actual difference ...
and in my "4g" area, TMO currently smokes VZ/AT&T "4g" ..
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It's true we have more or less 3.5g but Verizon has there 4g LTE which is according to statistics the fastest and true 4g, we come in 2nd i believe
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I'm hitting between 10-18Mb down and 2-9mb up with this beast, and no I don't live in a big metro area my lousy sensation topped out at
6mb down and 2mb up in the same area... as other person said idc Wtf they call it...its fast and consistent and cheaper then any other provider
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It's true we have more or less 3.5g but Verizon has there 4g LTE which is according to statistics the fastest and true 4g, we come in 2nd i believe
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I have seen those reports as well, but the ones I have seen are always theoretical speeds ...
I know in my area where VZ has LTE, and I have H+ I still get better speeds ...
One of the things, not all CPU's regardless of the radio, have the chipset support to reach the maximum, but ours is one of them that does, as does the Skyrocket ....
Where I actually live I have crappy service , but next time I am town, I will try and remember to save a screen shot of my speeds, last time I was getting in the high 20's without any issues, but I do average around 18 down and 2.5 up ....
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Actually I believe if you check the ITU standards H+ qualifies for 4g so it can be called 4g , really when it was released 4g did not even qualify as 4g ....
When you are using 4g you will see both data and standby as 4g only when on "3g" will it show "3g" during non-data usage and will show H during data usage ... (or it should , might be different if using a non-stock ROM)
EDIT: 3g/H/4g/H+ , really when it comes down to it the name does not matter, the speed of the network is what matters, they can call it "BubbaSmith" band and I would not care, it is the speed that makes the actual difference ...
and in my "4g" area, TMO currently smokes VZ/AT&T "4g" ..
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Coming soon from T-Mobile, the next great things in smartphones. The Google Nebula running Fruit Loop on our new lightning fast BubbaSmith network.
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Coming soon from T-Mobile, the next great things in smartphones. The Google Nebula running Fruit Loop on our new lightning fast BubbaSmith network.
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LOL
But I thought that the new phone was code named "Deliverance" ????
Can someone let me know why my phone never shows 3g? Either it is showing 'E' or 4G. My nexus used to show 3G.
I am under the assumption that this sgh-t989 can connect to all those networks t-mobile has....
Thanks
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It might be because of the fact that everything being advertised now as '4G' is technically '3G.
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It might be because of the fact that everything being advertised now as '4G' is technically '3G.
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Thats not true anymore.. the T-Mobile 4G network has been officially recognized as 4G along with WiMax and LTE. Happened a few months ago.
The reason your only seeing either E or 4G is because those are the networks you are near. And many people believe that T-Mo sets the software to show 4G in the 3G area to "lie".. personally depending where i am, I see 3G or 4G we dont have any edge left in my area any longer..
Either way does it really matter? I mean as long as you have a solid connection..
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...The reason your only seeing either E or 4G is because those are the networks you are near...
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My friend's Nexus S shows 3G or H -depending on which tower it connects to? I don't know but it does show them at different times. we are still living in the same area. So, I am not so sure that they might have "phased out" the 3G. Confusing..
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Either way does it really matter? I mean as long as you have a solid connection..
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Suppose it doesn't matter but, I'd rather get 4G > 3G > E, and in that order. As you know, 3G is definitely faster than E and not all markets/areas have been upgraded to 4G...
T-Mobiles "4G" is a boosted UMTS (3G) band per say which is HSDPA. As long as the market you live in supports HSPDA you will see a "4G". If not then you will see a "3G". If none of those you will see "E" for EDGE or "G" for GSM. To say that T-Mobile's "4G" is actually 4G is ridiculous.
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T-Mobiles "4G" is a boosted UMTS (3G) band per say which is HSDPA. As long as the market you live in supports HSPDA you will see a "4G". If not then you will see a "3G". If none of those you will see "E" for EDGE or "G" for GSM. To say that T-Mobile's "4G" is actually 4G is ridiculous.
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But T-Mobile's 4G is really fast. Lets not start bad mouthing here.
I get on average 18-20mbps on T-Mobiles "4G" here in South Florida. These speeds are absolutely horrible! Youtube videos are fully cached in seconds and i don't even get the buffering icon so I can sneeze or make sure my car is even being driven in the right direction! Someone should report them to the BBB!
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iLeopard said:
T-Mobiles "4G" is a boosted UMTS (3G) band per say which is HSDPA. As long as the market you live in supports HSPDA you will see a "4G". If not then you will see a "3G". If none of those you will see "E" for EDGE or "G" for GSM. To say that T-Mobile's "4G" is actually 4G is ridiculous.
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Then call it ridiculous because as of the end of last year the hspa + network was accepted as 4G. As well as wimax and LTE. Since previous non of these where "real " 4G.. 100mbps.
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tester420 said:
Can someone let me know why my phone never shows 3g? Either it is showing 'E' or 4G. My nexus used to show 3G.
I am under the assumption that this sgh-t989 can connect to all those networks t-mobile has....
Thanks
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Basically, if you live in an area with mixed coverage where there are 3g bands in addition to hspa plus (a form of 4g), you will see a mixture between 3g and 4g. However, in most areas the 3g bands have been upgraded to support 4g so the 4g > 3g > edge map has the 4g and 3g combined into 4g so you're not losing out on 3g time but rather are gaining 4g time.
Another explanation involves TMobile showing all 3g as 4g regardless of whether it is actually hspa plus or not. This would explain your friend's nexus s coverage changing. Personally, I only see a difference between 3g and 4g on specific roms which would indicate that TMobile does code their roms to label everything above edge as 4g.
Side note: H is the same as 4g as far as we are concerned. H means hspa plus whereas 4g if the more broad category that also includes lte and Wimax. It's like calling my car a ford fusion versus just a Ford. Neither is wrong.
Bottom line: you are not losing out on 3g coverage. At best, you are getting 4g in place of the 3g even when you should be getting 3g. At worst, you are getting both 4g and 3g but your phone is always telling you that you're on 4g
Hi every body
i seem when my note display 3g the internet dosnt work i need to wait for couple of seconds to display h or h+ and then works. Is that normal? Why i cant use the 3g regular network?
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Yes thats normal. Its to preserve bettery the signal will regilary drop down into 3g when idle
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Bestplayer55 said:
Hi every body
i seem when my note display 3g the internet dosnt work i need to wait for couple of seconds to display h or h+ and then works. Is that normal? Why i cant use the 3g regular network?
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I'm on the same boat homie. Can't figure it out. I guess it's just another amazing T-Mobile limitation.
Tmobiles 3g and 4g network are the same the 4g is actually just 3g with better antenna technology and I think a power boost. The 3g network is called hspa and 4g is hspa+. That is why att had 3g 3.5g and 4g att considered the hspa+ 3.5g because they launched their lte network as 4g. So technically when tmo launches lte it will be tmos 5g. They changed the definition of the whole thing a while ago. G stands for generation. So that is why tmobile is allowed to call it 4g because it is their 4 generation of high speed internet. There is no actually standard. like edge being 2g hspa being 3g lte 4g the way it should be.
For the roms that use the h, h+, 3g format usually 3g actually EDGE or 2g. H is 3g and h+ is 4g So the net is probally not broken it is just ridiculously slow. I hope I explained that right. That is what it seems like to me from GOOGLEING it.
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Tmobiles 3g and 4g network are the same the 4g is actually just 3g with better antenna technology and I think a power boost. The 3g network is called hspa and 4g is hspa+. That is why att had 3g 3.5g and 4g att considered the hspa+ 3.5g because they launched their lte network as 4g. So technically when tmo launches lte it will be tmos 5g. They changed the definition of the whole thing a while ago. G stands for generation. So that is why tmobile is allowed to call it 4g because it is their 4 generation of high speed internet. There is no actually standard. like edge being 2g hspa being 3g lte 4g the way it should be.
For the roms that use the h, h+, 3g format usually 3g actually EDGE or 2g. H is 3g and h+ is 4g So the net is probally not broken it is just ridiculously slow. I hope I explained that right. That is what it seems like to me from GOOGLEING it.
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Hey thanks for that info. I tested out all networks again...
4G = Fast Data.
3G = No Data AT ALL.
Edge = Slow Data.
If T-Mobile's 4G and 3G networks are the same thing, why don't I get data when the phone says it's connected to a 3G tower? I had 3G service with my previous phone and it had decent data speed. I could stream music and browse the web easily. Now... 3G just doesn't work at all.
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Hey thanks for that info. I tested out all networks again...
4G = Fast Data.
3G = No Data AT ALL.
Edge = Slow Data.
If T-Mobile's 4G and 3G networks are the same thing, why don't I get data when the phone says it's connected to a 3G tower? I had 3G service with my previous phone and it had decent data speed. I could stream music and browse the web easily. Now... 3G just doesn't work at all.
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Thanks fo that. Thats what im talking about. I have my other phone (nexus s) and works with 3g tower. Note 2 dosent works. Im going to call tmobile customer service to complain lol
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I called tmobile today and the technical support told me they are going refering this issue to the engeniere to look forward what can be happening with this problem, bcse is not normal. We supposed to use tge 3g network too. Sorry my english is bad.
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Bestplayer55 said:
I called tmobile today and the technical support told me they are going refering this issue to the engeniere to look forward what can be happening with this problem, bcse is not normal. We supposed to use tge 3g network too. Sorry my english is bad.
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Cool man keep us updated!!