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Been out of the loop, now have some questions

Hey, its been a while since ive checked the forums and the progress of everything, and am really glad to see what I've come back to. Im very impressed with the progress so far. I just did the Unrevoked forever last night and now have s-off. My question or concern is...
Currently my phone has the original stock 2.1-update 1 firmware, with original stock rom. I am running the Hydra kernal v0.7 overclock with undervolt 1.113 w/n. My H-boot is 0.77.0000 and radio is at 1.00.03.04.06 with custom recovery 2.5.0.5.
I'd like to upgrade my radio to the 2.15xxxxx but im not sure if the kernal will work with it or what steps I should do first. Should I load the lastest kernal the way my phone is now, and then flash the radio? Or do I need to be running a 2.2 froyo rom first? Im not sure what exactly is compatible. I would have liked to wait for the ota but its taking forever and I want to try out froyo. Thanks.

I'd probably start off by doing some research and read all the 8 biazillion threads already open like this and then next make a note to post in the general section next time instead of development.
kthxbye

zerf said:
I'd probably start off by doing some research and read all the 8 biazillion threads already open like this and then next make a note to post in the general section next time instead of development.
kthxbye
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Way to be a jerk
To the OP I'd fill you in but I'm a bit lost too

And thats what the GENERAL SECTION is for.

Man I hope androidforums comes back online soon....

m52power said:
Way to be a jerk
To the OP I'd fill you in but I'm a bit lost too
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yup looks like I'm a jerk along with the 2 other ppl that posted above as well

OP... I had issues with the 2.15 radio, .92 hboot and .29 kernel.(landed me on the ozzeh wall of bricks ) If i remember correctly leave the Hboot alone and you'll be good. If I am wrong, someone chime in.

zerf said:
I'd probably start off by doing some research and read all the 8 biazillion threads already open like this and then next make a note to post in the general section next time instead of development.
kthxbye
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Thanks for being a useless pos ....kthxbye
m52power said:
Way to be a jerk
To the OP I'd fill you in but I'm a bit lost too
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doug piston said:
OP... I had issues with the 2.15 radio, .92 hboot and .29 kernel.(landed me on the ozzeh wall of bricks ) If i remember correctly leave the Hboot alone and you'll be good. If I am wrong, someone chime in.
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I guess we'll have to wait it out and see. I thought I was being specific and it would have been a simple answer. I guess more and more threads might just pop up on this then.

The way I went from stock to Sky Raider 2.5 was:
Install new rom, kernel, radio update.
I did this all at once, but you don't need to do the kernel update right away. Right now I've using Sky Raider 2.5.2 Sense and it's pretty awesome. Good luck to you and remember to nandroid backup. Backups never hurt anyone!

[solved]Amon-RAv.2 or Clockwork 2513 with pvt4 erasesize 40000 devices?

Well the thread title basically says it all.
Does it matter in any way,which recovery I use?
I'd like to flash the latest cyanogen,as that was the latest rom I had on my pulse before getting the desire and I'd really like to use it again.
Phone info:
S-ON
PVT4
Erasesize 40000
Latest radio
Root and SU is working fine so far and I currently have amon-ra v2 on it.
Is there anything that I should read or look out for before starting to flash cyanogen,or any other rom,for that matter.
I know...this has probably been answered before,but you guys really have a huge amount of info here and it's kinda hard to really find the necessary answers.
So thanks in advance for any answers...

If you read the s-off thread about PVT-4 new (40000) devices, it specifically suggested to flash the modified 2.5.1.3 clockwork image with unrEVOked as a temporary fix... so, if i were you, i would have gone with what was recommended.
Sent from my HTC Desire using eMIUI

MasDroid said:
If you read the s-off thread about PVT-4 new (40000) devices, it specifically suggested to flash the modified 2.5.1.3 clockwork image with unrEVOked as a temporary fix... so, if i were you, i would have gone with what was recommended.
Sent from my HTC Desire using eMIUI
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That's what I've done, although I've had problems flashing a couple of ROMs with the modified CWM for PVT4 40K devices. It has been suggested that I switch to Amon Ra but I can't find anything specific for the PVT4 devices so I'm staying put for now. LeeDroid ticks all the boxes at the moment.

Well, i know oxygen, reflextsense, and miui also work for pvt-4 (40000) devices, could try one of those if you like
I think you may like miui but like you said, its about personal preference
Sent from my HTC Desire using eMIUI

Well in that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10148951#post10148951
I also did read that someone recommended amon-ra regarding the 4000 devices,so I flashed that.
But no problem,I'll switch to the clockworkmod version that's been posted over there.
Bummer that I jumped on the desire wagon a little late,so that I now have one of these devices, where you have to be a little more careful then usual.
Do you know,if cyanogen is one of the roms that I should be able to use,or should I rather stick to the ones you mentioned,for now?

[armitage] said:
Well in that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10148951#post10148951
I also did read that someone recommended amon-ra regarding the 4000 devices,so I flashed that.
But no problem,I'll switch to the clockworkmod version that's been posted over there.
Bummer that I jumped on the desire wagon a little late,so that I now have one of these devices, where you have to be a little more careful then usual.
Do you know,if cyanogen is one of the roms that I should be able to use,or should I rather stick to the ones you mentioned,for now?
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I cannot say for sure friend, maybe just stick with the ones we know are certain to work. Have you tried asking in the Cyanogen ROM thread?

Not yet,will have a look at the thread later on,maybe it has been mentioned there already.
Thanks for your help.

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Not yet,will have a look at the thread later on,maybe it has been mentioned there already.
Thanks for your help.
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Oks, good luck

Re-using my thread here, cause even though the original question has been answered,my new question is still pretty much the same.
Anyway...I red a lot about this in the clockworkmod and amonra thread but didn't really find a real answer.
Problem is that many people wrote that they have problems with all clockwork versions above 2.5.0.7 cause they were never really meant for the desire.
Few guys mentioned problems with usb after restoring a backup,some lost the sd-ext and so on.
So my question is...Is there actually anyone,with a pvt4 erasesize 40k device,that has either used clockworkmod or amon-ra, to successfully create and restore a backup of their rom,without any problems?
An answer would be really appreciated,cause I would really love to have a backup of my rom,that I could actually use,without any problems,if something would go wrong.

bump......

I´ve such a device (PVT4 with erasesize 40000) and had no problems using amon-ra to create a nandroid backup and restore that backup. tested it several times.
FYI: cyanogenmod 6.1 and leedroid 2.3 worked without any problems.
my device has s-off due to alpharev 1.8 but currently there are no modified partition layouts available for the devices with new nand layout.

Thanks a lot mate,that's really good to know.
I did find the 2.0 thread but heard a lot about a 2.0.1 version beeing available.
I'm guessing you have amon-ra 2.0 or 2.0.1 installed?
If 2.0.1 could you maybe give me a link to that one?
Thanks...

I´m currently using amon-ra v2.0.1 but have no idea what´s the difference to v2.0.
I´ve not enough posts to post outside links
-> sent you a pm with the link from where i´ve downloaded amon-ra v2.0.1

Thanks...
Guess I can tag this thread as "solved" now.

Bootloops! Is it okay to use AOSP roms?

Just read about the Bootloops and recoveries being lost for no reason off AOSP roms. What is everyone's opinion on this situation?
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I've had boot loops in both aosp and sense roms. Usually they correct themselves with a reflash. I saw someone post earlier that their nandroid backups where gone but not really, they just werent showing up in recovery. I dont see how a rom could cause a deletion of a nandroid on your sd card. I think when an issue like this arises it's probably because some did something they werent suppose to. You having problems with an aosp rom? Keep in mind I dont use aosp roms any longer, I like the convenience of sense (prl/pri update, dial a contact, rarely a 4g or gps issue)

I haven't had any issues with aosp roms either. I just read in this thread:
that off of aosp Roms that there recovery just disappears and nothing but bootloops off the white htc screen.

ooo scary stuff... Ill stick with sense lol F-that!

I think it's a bunch of BS and people covering their asses because they forgot to put on the ENG hboot and figure out how to flash a new recovery image.

ENG hboot. How would you know which one it is drma. **** I need to check which one it is. haha

marcusva79 said:
ENG hboot. How would you know which one it is drma. **** I need to check which one it is. haha
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Eng boot is like the original, which comes s-off, so bootloader is always s-off. You can check by going into the bootloader and checking your hboot version.

I know mine says s-off,hahah. While reading both those articles i see that everyone on there that has been having that issue use unrevoked.

drmacinyasha said:
I think it's a bunch of BS and people covering their asses because they forgot to put on the ENG hboot and figure out how to flash a new recovery image.
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I've tried helping a few of the guys having trouble, with everything I know how to do. I've had them try flashing recovery images every way I know how. Perhaps you wouldn't mind stopping by the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009672 and seeing if there's something that was missed? I don't know fastboot too much, other than how to flash an RUU with it, but one of the guys had successfully downgraded to the .76 Eng Bootloader to try just that. Maybe you could offer some assistance? Because everything else has seemed to fail, Everything. Whether you think it's BS or not, your help would be appreciated.

How difficult is it flashing a radio?

Ok.I've heard some good this about the 11.19 radio, I am on the 07.28 radio and from what hear the 11.19 radio is better on battery life. Im running redemption 2.3 and I want to flash 11.19 radio. I have the file but how do I install it.
Dinc

Rename the file to PB31IMG.zip, make sure theres not a file with the same name, put on root of sdcard, reboot to hboot/bootloader. The phone will check for an update, hit yes. Let it do its thing, reboot to recovery and flash a kernel of your choice cuz the radio update erases ur kernel...sometimes it doesnt say the radio updated...just reboot again.
Do not attempt the radio update twice in a row it will brick your phone!
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Make sure you have s-off. unrEVOked forever.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Sorry lol. But how do I get into the boatloader. I knw how to get inti hboot but not bootloader.
Dinc

snapper915 said:
Sorry lol. But how do I get into the boatloader. I knw how to get inti hboot but not bootloader.
Dinc
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Same thing.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA Premium App

Oh ok. Well I put the file on the root of my SD card ,rebooted to hboot and nothing happened. What am I doin wrong.
Dinc

snapper915 said:
What am I doin wrong
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What is HBOOT saying when you boot into it? When you enter HBOOT there should be a delay of a second or two, then it should check for the presence of PB files on the SDCARD
Most common mistakes that people make:
They don't format their SD card to FAT32
They mess up the file name (like PB31IMG.zip.zip)

Yes the file has zip beside it. So what do I need to do. Do I need to rename the file without adding the zip. And I'm pretty sure that my SD card is formatted right. Cause I'm constantly flashing roms and kernels.
Dinc

snapper915 said:
Yes the file has zip beside it. So what do I need to do. Do I need to rename the file without adding the zip.
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It needs to be PB31IMG.zip
If it is PB31IMG.zip.zip then rename it to PB31IMG.zip
snapper915 said:
And I'm pretty sure that my SD card is formatted right. Cause I'm constantly flashing roms and kernels.
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Flashing through recovery is different than flashing through HBOOT. Just because you have successfully flashed through recovery does not mean for sure that your card is formatted to FAT32. Check that your card is the right format.

Yep. I tested it on my other dinc that I don't or can't use it worked perfect. Now which radio are must people recommending. I hear good things about 11.19. I'm currently on 07.28. And my signal isn't that good at all around my house.
Dinc

Ugh
pete_kowalski83 said:
Do not attempt the radio update twice in a row it will brick your phone!
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One of the greatest mistakes made by anyone or any group for the incredible, was the flash in time that unrEVOked decided to release ONE thing as a patch; and forever and ever the absolute fallacy that you cannot flash the radio twice was born.
The ONE thing that this applied to (which is LONG gone) was a patch; and if you tried to patch the patch, you bricked. That has nothing to do with flashing a full on radio.
Of course, flashing a radio is generally dangerous, so you wouldn't want to keep flashing it over and over anyway; but UGH when will that die?

snapper915 said:
Ok.I've heard some good this about the 11.19 radio, I am on the 07.28 radio and from what hear the 11.19 radio is better on battery life. Im running redemption 2.3 and I want to flash 11.19 radio. I have the file but how do I install it.
Dinc
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First of all, forget everything you've heard about a particular radio. Baseband performance is extremely subjective based upon individual variables. Basing selection of a radio on someone else's experience is like saying, "His favorite color is blue, therefore mine should be blue as well."
Take each of the baseband versions for a test drive for a few days apiece to see which one gives you the best overall performance.

jdmba said:
One of the greatest mistakes made by anyone or any group for the incredible, was the flash in time that unrEVOked decided to release ONE thing as a patch; and forever and ever the absolute fallacy that you cannot flash the radio twice was born.
The ONE thing that this applied to (which is LONG gone) was a patch; and if you tried to patch the patch, you bricked. That has nothing to do with flashing a full on radio.
Of course, flashing a radio is generally dangerous, so you wouldn't want to keep flashing it over and over anyway; but UGH when will that die?
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+1
Every time I see that posted, I want to beat my head against the fall. Flashing a radio over itself will not brick the phone. As you've stated, this held true for the one leak from unrevoked released as a .diff patch. The basebands we're dealing with now are full versions and include error checking.

najaboy said:
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Every time I see that posted, I want to beat my head against the fall. Flashing a radio over itself will not brick the phone. As you've stated, this held true for the one leak from unrevoked released as a .diff patch. The basebands we're dealing with now are full versions and include error checking.
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Post a link to where it says its ok then...havent heard that and whats it to you if were trying to be safe jackass
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

jdmba said:
One of the greatest mistakes made by anyone or any group for the incredible, was the flash in time that unrEVOked decided to release ONE thing as a patch; and forever and ever the absolute fallacy that you cannot flash the radio twice was born.
The ONE thing that this applied to (which is LONG gone) was a patch; and if you tried to patch the patch, you bricked. That has nothing to do with flashing a full on radio.
Of course, flashing a radio is generally dangerous, so you wouldn't want to keep flashing it over and over anyway; but UGH when will that die?
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Well CLEARLY i havent read that, rather b safe than sorry
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Ok, I flashed 11.19 radio and it worked perfect. do these things need to settle before I notice any difference. If there are any difference in theropy the two.
Dinc

Flashing a radio over a radio is like flashing a Rom over a Rom. Not a problem.
Sent from my Magnolia Incredible

One thing I've wondered is radio compatibility with new software versions. It seems with my og droid when I went from 2.0 to 2.0.1/2.2, there were required baseband updates. Same with my fascinate, but on the same platform. When we went to DL09, although still 2.1, the radio update was required. I've noticed old radio versions being the culprit of a few CM7 issues also.
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Wow - I've been amazed how peaceful these forums were. Somebody explains the situation, states it wont cause a problem and gets called a "jackass" - that's productive.
As it was pointed out, flashing a radio can go wrong and brick your phone, so why would you do it over and over? Do you play russian rullette?
I find it funny that those who "heard" flashing the same radio 2 times will brick your phone INSIST that you have to PROVE it is wrong - though it's fairly obvious their phones are still working so they clearly have no personal evidence!
Scott

pete_kowalski83 said:
Post a link to where it says its ok then...havent heard that and whats it to you if were trying to be safe jackass
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Hold up there, Pete... no need to be so acerbic about it. The only radio that would cause a brick if flashed over itself was the 2.05 .diff patch that was released by unrevoked. That one could brick their phone by flashing a radio image over itself is merely a persistent myth that, like most urban legends, refuses to die. One of the frustrating aspects is when it's repeated by a well respected member of the community. That being said, the posts from Adrynalyne clarifying this were relatively easy to overlook given the sheer volume of posts around that time regarding the Froyo update.
http://androidforums.com/1522874-post8.html
The danger before was when we were using radio patch files. They have no error checking, just overwrite whatever the hell they want. So it only works once.
These are full images. Two of them were built by a member of Unrevoked (2.05 and 2.07). I had their blessing to post this thread.
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adrynalyne said:
Flashing the same radio should be fine. That was only true if the radio was a patch file.
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[Q] HTC Desire 2.3.3 Official Update Custom ROM?

Hi guys. Sorry if this is similar to another question in these Q&A sections but i've gone through so many threads that i'm sick to the bones and ready to blow.
I have the original HTC Desire S-LCD model (slightly slower people, please note it is NOT the S, Z or HD, you don't know how many times this happens) and i used the official update for 2.3.3 gingerbread from the HTC developer site. The thing is though, it's very buggy and the lack of space is annoying me. I managed to get S-Off and install Revolutionary recovery onto it.
(HBOOT version says 6.93.1002 (not sure why it has the 6 part) and it says "Bravo PVT3 Ship S-Off")
I tried using root programs but none of them worked on it. To flash another ROM do i have to root it or can i just flash from this stage? Also what ROM would you guys reccommend? I'm wanting one with the new sense 3.0 or even the HTC Desire S ROM with sense 2.1 and apps2sd. I'm constantly uninstalling and reinstalling apps co its always almost full.
Again, sorry if this is unneccessary spam that has been asked before but i'm tired, confused, sick and annoyed.
Thanks, Huzi.

And please for the love of god don't tell me to use the search bar. At least link me. Please?

You can get some cool ROMS here: http://www.cooldevs.com/ that include upto sense 3.5!

New ROM has be flashed from recovery. Always follow installation instructions when you flash a new rom. To find a good one, check the developers thread.
A good beginnersguide can be found here on XDA (Sticky in General section).
Swyped from ICS with Transparent XDA App

reboot into recovery (either through the bootloader, or by adb reboot recovery).
If you just get an exclamation mark in a triangle, you need to flash recovery. Look at my guide.
If you have a custom recovery, backup your rom (it's pretty self explanatory how), do a full format from mounts & storage (apart from your sd-card), then select flash zip from sd, and then choose a rom to flash. Don't ask which is best or what to recommend. It's all personal preference.
ROM's I frequent:
Cyanogenmod
MIUI XJ

I can recommend the noobs thread it tells you everything, I've used it many of times and you soon pick.up on stuff.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

MatDrOiD said:
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So what you're saying is that I don't need to root or create a goldcard or anything? As long as I have this custom recovery I can flash a new ROM?
Also another thing that worries me is the radio part of the ROM. That was the reason I had to send my phone back to HTC coz there was an error when it was at the ROM stage and wouldn't boot an OS after that.
Can I flash a new ROM without the radio or does that mean no calling etc?
And also does the radio have to be specific to my region and operator? (o2 uk)
(sorry about the long winded questions)
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

huzi_a said:
So what you're saying is that I don't need to root or create a goldcard or anything? As long as I have this custom recovery I can flash a new ROM?
Also another thing that worries me is the radio part of the ROM. That was the reason I had to send my phone back to HTC coz there was an error when it was at the ROM stage and wouldn't boot an OS after that.
Can I flash a new ROM without the radio or does that mean no calling etc?
And also does the radio have to be specific to my region and operator? (o2 uk)
(sorry about the long winded questions)
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Yes, you don't need a goldcard to flash a new ROM. The radio doesn't affect the booting up of the OS, it just affects your network signal and anything else associated with the radio. The radio doesn't need to be flashed everytime you change ROM's. You can look here to see if you have the latest one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687464
The radios are not region specific

Thanks a lot for clarifying that. I think I'm gonna get started with a sense 3.0 ROM.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

No problem bro hope you find a ROM to your liking. You could try this one its a 2.1+3.0 sense rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300224

You know what? Delete all tutorials. What's the point of having them, when suckers will jump to every n00b like superheroes and will re-write the same things all over again?

Terepin said:
You know what? Delete all tutorials. What's the point of having them, when suckers will jump like to every n00b like superheroes and will re-write the same things all over again?
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And let me ask you something. Is it such a crime to ask for help and give help? I've read through every tutorial i needed and still ran into problems. A store worker doesn't ignore you when you need something just coz people have asked before. By signing up to XDA you are automatically willing to help others or even help yourself when problems arise.

Revolutionary. Single word that fixes all. Instead, they gave you even recipes for secret cake! That's not helping, that's spamming.

grazy2266 said:
I can recommend the noobs thread it tells you everything, I've used it many of times and you soon pick.up on stuff.
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Where is this noobs thread? Link Please.
Pardon my noobiness.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084

Maybe if it will has flashing lights and cool music n00bs will notice it...

Jesus sayd "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." and not "Kill the n00bs"

Two things:
1. Grammar FAIL!
2. I'm not their father.

Terepin, I just wanna say that I like your avatar. It adds character to your posts.

While thank you. I'm trying to do my best.