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HTC is crap...

Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.

vboyz103 said:
Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.
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Yeah, I'm pissed off with my EVO! or I should say HTC!!! I've emailed them about 3 times now and still no reply in regards to the 30 frame rates per second cap. I'm going to wait until the 3rd of July and return my evo and wait for the sprint samsung galaxy version... i read there's going to be 2 versions, a pro with the qwerty and a keyboard less. Also i read the processor in it is identical to that of the iphone 4. This is bull HTC, i expected the best from the evo until the 2nd day i had my evo and saw my palm pre plays 3d games 10 times better than the evo.

I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.

Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.

take the phone back jump to Verizon and move on SIMPLE !

vboyz103 said:
Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it.
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Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?

go4the1 said:
Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?
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One phone? Uhhh.......

EtherealRemnant said:
One phone? Uhhh.......
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yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.

go4the1 said:
yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.
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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...

IMO the grass is not greener at Samsung. I have had the i760 and the Moment and each time I swapped them for the HTC equivilent at the time.
Every device has issues, but at least HTC hacks are much easier to come by...the evidence is in the size of the XDA forums.
The only thing I like better about Samsung is that the hardware is less flimsey, but HTC has gotten better at it over the last year.

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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...
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I emphasized "one" phone because when you translate his post to English, the rant is:
The entire company "HTC" is crap as a whole because one of their phones has a 30fps cap on graphics.
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...which is obviously untrue.

Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.

Jykinturah said:
Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.
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+1 exactly my point.
OP, play with an evo for a few minutes and then try to say that the (temporary) 30fps cap really makes a difference to the overall experience of the device.

Just go buy the droid x and don't spend your precious time here to tell us how you hate HTC and the EVO because you have so much experience with the Droid X to says its so much better.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.

EtherealRemnant said:
Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.
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I'm actually waiting to see how thick the S Pro is. If it is pretty thin I might check it out, even though I will probably never use the hardware keyboard. The GPU alone looks to be kicking all kinds of ass.

Kshawn said:
I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.

^Do you really need to post that twice?

I totally get that you want your monies worth, I mean who doesn't right? Also as stated we all would have figured it out sooner or later on our own about the caps one way or another. And yes I agree the cap is nonsense and we shouldn't just "make due" but if you bought the evo as a means for serious gaming I think you picked up the wrong device . But all In all I get everyone's point

adelaney said:
You're crap dude. Change your tampon.
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Oh snap! lol I'll be laughing about this remark til tomorrow.

Panoramic pictures?

Anyone know of an app or if there's a way to take actual panoramic pictures with the EVO 4G? My friend thinks he's tough **** with his iPhone 4 and when he asked if I can take pictures like that I was forced to reply "I'm not sure..." :/

lol....well, any iPhoner is going to try to hang their hat on the one or two silly thing that their phone can do and ours can't. While I agree it would be cool if someone developed and app that can do it, there is a list of things our phone can do that the iPhone 4 cannot, so I wouldn't stress it.

root it, start flashing new ROMs and overclocking, shoot incredible 720p video, and sit your phone up on the kickstand and watch them, or run them through the HDMI port to a HD TV. Then tell him to go shove his iPhone and tell him he needs to keep his personal preferences to hisself. As long as you are more happy with the EVO than an iPhone I don't think it's his business.

Have you tried PhotoStitch?

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Have you tried PhotoStitch?
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I have, but it's not the same
I realize my phone is better in every other way, but I just want to be able to take those kinds of shots.
Is it all software in the iPhone that allows him to do that? Or does that phone actually have a wide angle lens? Excuse me if that's a dumb question

i would like to know too...my boss just got the epic 4g and it does the same thing and a couple other tricks with the camera too...gotta be a way to port that over from epic to evo

Maybe can you try my app Andropan
let's me know how can I make it better

big-baloo said:
Maybe can you try my app Andropan
let's me know how can I make it better
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If I can remember I'll check when my phone gets done juicing. But I have been looking for a decent panoramic shooter too - photostitch doesn't cut it. At all.

Ye I have been desperately looking for a good panoramic software for the EVO.
The PhotoStich app works....ok, but I want something like the Epic or Droid X as far as it helping me line the next shot up.
Andropan is pretty sweet but on my EVO at the moment, it seems to have a couple of issues with the lineup, in the end I get a picture that is not joined perfectly for many shots, this means I have items in the picture that are repeated again and again since they have not been over lapped.
As this software moves forwards though, I'm sure it could do the job nicely.
I wish andropan and photostitch would get together and have a kid or something
I'd gladly fork over 10 bucks for an app that can do what the Epic's Samsung software does, or even what the Droid X is capable of.
Love the new update Sprint just pushed out though, super smooth now
-Sheldon

upgrading from evo 4g to???

ok so my evo 4g started having problems part of the screen went dead so i couldn't
tap numbers 4,5,6 and some letters also the usb port won't allow it to be charged anymore with the normal charger it came with i have to use my external drive usb cord to charge it on my pc
i shipped it to htc and i waited a week with no response so i call them to find out it has water damage and it be would be 300 to fix this wouldnt be a big deal if i had actually dropped it in water or ever laid it in something wet
i would had believed them more if they said it was dropped but water damage -_- i'm not going for that
so what new phones are coming out that are going to be better then the evo?
i have checked out the atrix 4g sgs2 and lg3d

wait for evo2

lmao evo2
if there is actually any evidence of a evo 2 link me to it and i would gladly wait

there is evidence of an evo 3d. first, an anonymous leak. then, go to now.sprint.com/evo3d and get linked to homepage. enter anything else after / and get 404 error. htc released evo at ctia, and thats next week. i'd wait.

yeah i will wait having phone shipped back
called them and tried to tell them it wasn't water damage -_- they wouldn't listen
so i got it shipped back >.> very excited to get another new phone though >.>
the evo3d better have monster specs

I am hoping the new HTC-Pyramid is the EVo2, or this phone is coming to Sprint.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-pyramid-shows-online-some-early-renders
If not I will be getting the Nexus-S 4G due out in April.

wowza it is rumored to be using 3.0 honeycomb :O glad you mentioned this phone to me
if any of you guys got any more recommendations please drop a message in here :O this will likely be my last upgrade for awhile so i wanna make a good choice
also doesnt the nexus s get alll upgrades before any other phone since it's googles flag ship phone >.>

denero1 said:
also doesnt the nexus s get alll upgrades before any other phone since it's googles flag ship phone >.>
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It is supposed to, but the Nexus-One took like 2+ months before the official upgrade came out, while the Nexus-S was the sole 2.3 Gingerbread phone for a couple of months.
I am not too confident that the Nexus-S will be first in line to get the next big OS update. I see them coming out with a Nexus-3.0 first phone running "ice Cream" then later on down the road the Nexus-S will get that update, and then the Nexus-One.
I thought Google was going to do it differently ? If there is a "nexus" brand phone, it should get the newest OS right away, that was the whole point of the phone. But the Nexus-S came out with 2.3, and all the Nexus-One owners just kept waiting and waiting, for a few months. That was not cool.

i really enjoy my evo so if it were me, id replace it.
ctia next week should show us something that will prolly launch come summer time. possibly a wimax enabled nexus s if you like sammy mobile devices.

Did the litmus paper on the battery get wet? It should be pink.

ooohhh htc shooter sounds sexy maybe 3d?

sorry to dig up an old thread, but there's no point in making a new one. I've had random issues with my evo and want to upgrade, but i really like mine and the active community behind it. Any other phones have as many devs working on them like we do here? i'd really like to stick with HTC

I'm also thinking of upgrading...phone of choice after research seems to be the Galaxy S II...I just read the side by side comparison vs. the iphone 4s and the verizon droid and the S II gives the best of all worlds.

http://hexus.net/mobile/news/android/32114-samsung-galaxy-s3-new-design-specs-leaked/
Just sayin',

the galaxy's are good phones, but i never liked their style. Honestly all i really want is a dual core evo :/

acme64 said:
the galaxy's are good phones, but i never liked their style. Honestly all i really want is a dual core evo :/
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evo 3d is your phone-whore then. great dual core speed, 1 gig of ram, higher-res screen, and who could forget good ol' 3d games and pics/vids.

i haven't seen it in person, but isn't it smaller than the evo?

acme64 said:
i haven't seen it in person, but isn't it smaller than the evo?
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A bit taller and a bit thinner. The body itself is a bit thicker, but it has the same thickest point as the og evo because the cam doesn't stick out as much. This makes it feel better in the hand, more solid. Same weight I think.
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I'd just keep the OG. It's awesome, the only thing that sucks is that we don't have wimax in San Diego and I don't expect to ever see it:-(

Evo 3D? Samsung Galaxy S II? Motorola Photon 4G?

Has the Photon 4g persuaded your decision when it comes down to what your upgrading to??? Or are you still intent on the Evo 3D or the Galaxy S II???

I'm still waiting to see if Sprint is going to sell the Galaxy S II. The Photon has my interest pending if the bootloader will be locked or not. The Samsung Within is on the top of my wish list, however...

The bootloader has been confirmed not to be locked by Motorola......

Yes, I just read that and confirmed Gorilla Glass, too. It has moved into second place pending a Galaxy S II announcement.

They stated later that the Photon would have a locked bootloader. Here is a link to it:
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/10/des...motorola-photon-4g-bootloader-will-be-locked/

The GSII for sprint is going to be called the Within. We know it's coming, we just aren't sure when :\. I personally would go for the Evo 3D because it is unlocked and will have great dev support. The Within will most likely also have great dev support because it is a great phone and because Samsung recently sent a few GSII to the guys that make cyanogenmod. Both phones have great specs and I am excited that they are going to be on Sprint.
I want to like the photon, but due to the fact that it is locked and because it is running the Motorola UI (apparently not called motoblur anymore) I won't even be looking at it. The specs are fantastic, but those two factors just make me cringe at the thought of buying it.

I had a Motorola phone back in the day even before smart phones were around, and it hit the brick hard on me, so I really don't want a phone from them. I personally will most likely go for the Galaxy S II, because I personally love my Samsung LED TV, I had a non Samsung smart phone, and it did me right [the AT&T Eternity] and still works, also is has phenomenal specs. I personally could care less about the '3D' aspect to the Evo 3D.

teh roxxorz said:
I had a Motorola phone back in the day even before smart phones were around, and it hit the brick hard on me, so I really don't want a phone from them. I personally will most likely go for the Galaxy S II, because I personally love my Samsung LED TV, I had a non Samsung smart phone, and it did me right [the AT&T Eternity] and still works, also is has phenomenal specs. I personally could care less about the '3D' aspect to the Evo 3D.
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I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that most of the people here are not buying the phone because it is 3D. That's just something extra that we didn't ask for. People are buying it because it's a phone from a great company with great specs on a great carrier. Not saying that Samsung isn't great, we have a 40" from them that looks fantastic, but some people just prefer HTC.

monkeychef said:
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that most of the people here are not buying the phone because it is 3D. That's just something extra that we didn't ask for. People are buying it because it's a phone from a great company with great specs on a great carrier. Not saying that Samsung isn't great, we have a 40" from them that looks fantastic, but some people just prefer HTC.
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That's possibly true, and the extra power to run the 3D would probably eat up some of the battery. I have a 32" Samsung LED tv...beautiful in my room at school. And I agree there probably is some bias out there, but I resolved a long time ago, to not get stubborn and be a die fanboy to one side just cuz I like them. I love boy Samsung and HTC, but I feel the GS II has the edge in this competition. Just my 4 cents.

The Atrix was just released here in Australia with one of our local carriers on Tuesday 06/07/2011. So not happy that a few days later, the Photon have been announced. Larger screen, 8mp camera etc etc.
This 2 yr plan is really going to drag along so slowly now.

teh roxxorz said:
That's possibly true, and the extra power to run the 3D would probably eat up some of the battery. I have a 32" Samsung LED tv...beautiful in my room at school. And I agree there probably is some bias out there, but I resolved a long time ago, to not get stubborn and be a die fanboy to one side just cuz I like them. I love boy Samsung and HTC, but I feel the GS II has the edge in this competition. Just my 4 cents.
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That's very well spoken. I enjoy your 2 cents (because 4 just seems like a bit too much)

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That's very well spoken. I enjoy your 2 cents (because 4 just seems like a bit too much)
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Its a clearance sale on my opinion today, so keep the change for yourself.
But thank you.

As of right now, the Photon has my interest. Being able to use it globally is a plus for me. But with that said, if it becomes impossible to root then I may not consider it much. I'm not liking the EVO3D for the sole fact that its a 3D phone. Yes, I know its optional but I'm not keen on it. The GSII would be a win if it does come with a keyboard. To early to say what I would get though.

Well I've already got my EVO 3D locked in for release date. I'm not really a fan of the Photon, as I won't need it globally. I love my EVO, and if the 3D is the same build quality (or better), I will be loving my new phone.
I'm not a fan of hardware keyboards, as I feel like they just add extra bulk, so for me at least, the EVO 3D offers exactly what I want.
Of course, everyone will have their own preferences, and hopefully everyone will do their homework and decide what works best for them (and don't bash any of the other ones just because you like one over the other lol)
Also, the 3D has better power management than (some) other processors (like the Tegra 2). The cores can be clocked individually based on the need of the device or app, so it save power when it isn't needed. I wonder how long it will take to get a SetCPU like app that can control each core individually.
The MSM8x60 incorporates an asynchronous dual-core SMP micro-architecture. Unlike synchronous dual-core SMP designs
where both cores must run at the same frequency and voltage when operational, the dual-core Scorpion asynchronous power
design provides independent clocking and voltage per core, allowing each to work independently. This highly efficient design
provides substantial power savings over traditional SMP technology by intelligently adjusting performance to suit the needs of
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http://www.qualcomm.com/documents/snapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief

sorry not to be a **** but who in the hell would want a locked and encrypted bootloader phone from a company that gives a rats @$$ about its customers???...
ona side note is anyone here just going to hold onto their evo and wait for quad cores???

sorry i really like my evo, but if the photon was unlocked and unencrypted id go for it.... right now sgs2 and evo 3d too much alike... htc seems to have beter build quality.... the samsung 4g ... cant remember what it was called for sprint felt reallllllyyyyy cheap... but the screen was awesome

keejung said:
sorry i really like my evo, but if the photon was unlocked and unencrypted id go for it.... right now sgs2 and evo 3d too much alike... htc seems to have beter build quality.... the samsung 4g ... cant remember what it was called for sprint felt reallllllyyyyy cheap... but the screen was awesome
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"Epic" was the name... Kind of funny that it was an "epic" fail. That phone felt like a cheap, plastic, hunk of junk.

I used my upgrade on an echo.

Why does everyone think HTC is such a great company? I've owned nearly every single HTC phone Sprint has ever offered, and in stock form they typically get terrible battery life, and have pretty bad build quality. I went through 6 HTC Touch/Vogues before I got one with a decent screen... Went through 4 or 5 Touch Pros, (and even a Touch Diamond,) before returning them all for overheating issues and terrrrrible battery life... Also had lots of problems with the capacitive buttons peeling off and terrible light leakage.
I had to go through several Evo 4Gs as well... and if you read the forums, there are all sorts of quirky things depending on what screen you got, what hardware version, etc... I don't see how people can be so damn pleased about that? Every new HTC phone is the same way... initially people are foaming at the mouth and forget all the problems in the past, and can only think of one thing--root. I don't get it, unless you are that desparate for free tethering. The custom ROMs on the 4G were far buggier than the stock one...
It seems like people only want HTC phones because the devs fix all the amazingly terrible problems that the phones comes with... My friends and family with Samsung and Motorola smartphones tell me all the time how reliable and rock-solid (physically) their phones are. If the argument for HTC is AOSP... I don't get that either... typically you lose out on many benefits custom to that hardware, (like 720p on Evo 4G,) and general reliability... Why not just remove all the wigets? That's what I did on my Evo 3D... I didn't run a single HTC widget. Didn't even sync fb for HTC, because it's such a battery hog.
To me, this whole "unlocked bootloader or DIE" mentality is just a bandwagon that people can jump on and feel like they belong. I would have stayed with my Evo 3D if it didn't send so many calls to voicemail, and had a half-way decent speaker. Things that I'm hoping the Photon can offer.

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I'm still waiting to see if Sprint is going to sell the Galaxy S II. The Photon has my interest pending if the bootloader will be locked or not. The Samsung Within is on the top of my wish list, however...
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Isn't the photon a tablet ? LOL also from what i read on the net the Samsung galaxy s 2 wasn't comin to the USA no news on it . Everyone is sayin its not coming I don't see it coming here any time soon.

[Q] EVO 3D or ANDROID TABLET

So i want to get some peoples opinions on this. I have some money saved up and wanted to ask the community.
I want to buy an EVO 3D or an android tablet. I still have one year left with VZW so i know i will pay a cancellation fee so im also adding that in. i can get a $600 tablet or pay my way out of contract and buy a new EVO 3D. it will cost almost the same.
If you pick tablet then please say which one and why you like it.
Let me know what your thoughts are and which one do you think will be the best road.

If it were me, it would be the HTC Flyer Tablet.

since you're posting on the inc forum, i'm assuming you have one. i for one would keep the phone, due to the ongoing development. and get a tablet. whyy pay the 350 bucks or whatever it is to get out of your contract, when you have a perfectly good working phone? you could spend that money on a decent slate. just do your research, because, just like phones, there are tons out there. i have read the reviews on the evo 3D, and they are not that impressive, in my opinion. with the 3D being mostly gimmickry..

Pick up a transformer or look into the new Toshiba Thrive.
Still rocking the Incredible with the XDA Premium App.

I'd get the evo 3d im planning on buying it aswell need to scrape together some $$$ first its an awesome phone in its own right without being rooted or s-off..htc will unlock the bootloader and we will get s-off and permaroot and a lot of great devs are moving to the evo 3d like virus and myn. But if you dont like the 3d you could wait for the HTC EVO 4G+ http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/is-this-the-htc-evo-4g-aka-kingdom/
Which is basically an evo 3d without the 3d....But the evo 3d is better imo because of that extra 3d feature and it isnt that pesky because its only 3d in landscape mode not portrait.The reviews are just people giving their opinion but i dont really listen to reviews because i like to get my own opinion on the phone by having it in my hand and reviewing it myself

One of the main reason why i want to switch is because with Sprint i will save $30 a month and still keep my same plan but i will also get 4g as well. I might wait a month or 2 before buying it because its first gen 3d phone so it will have some bugs to get out.

I say tablet, the Thrive has a full sized USB which is sweet, and the new ARCHOS tablets actually look pretty amazing (I can't believe I'm actually using ARCHOS and a positive term in the same sentence!)
For me, I'm waiting to see what Amazon brings to the plate with their 10.1 inch tablet.

Personally I have been looking at the idea of the samsung tab 10.1. But the Amazon one may be worth the time. I am personally considering the Acer tab. For the price its a good buy.
On the same hand I love the idea of the 3d. Running some of the 3.0 ROMs I can see some of the features that has potential to be really wicked in 3d.