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Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.
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Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.
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Yeah, I'm pissed off with my EVO! or I should say HTC!!! I've emailed them about 3 times now and still no reply in regards to the 30 frame rates per second cap. I'm going to wait until the 3rd of July and return my evo and wait for the sprint samsung galaxy version... i read there's going to be 2 versions, a pro with the qwerty and a keyboard less. Also i read the processor in it is identical to that of the iphone 4. This is bull HTC, i expected the best from the evo until the 2nd day i had my evo and saw my palm pre plays 3d games 10 times better than the evo.
I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.
Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.
take the phone back jump to Verizon and move on SIMPLE !
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Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it.
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Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?
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Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?
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One phone? Uhhh.......
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One phone? Uhhh.......
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yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.
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yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.
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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...
IMO the grass is not greener at Samsung. I have had the i760 and the Moment and each time I swapped them for the HTC equivilent at the time.
Every device has issues, but at least HTC hacks are much easier to come by...the evidence is in the size of the XDA forums.
The only thing I like better about Samsung is that the hardware is less flimsey, but HTC has gotten better at it over the last year.
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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...
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I emphasized "one" phone because when you translate his post to English, the rant is:
The entire company "HTC" is crap as a whole because one of their phones has a 30fps cap on graphics.
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...which is obviously untrue.
Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.
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Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.
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+1 exactly my point.
OP, play with an evo for a few minutes and then try to say that the (temporary) 30fps cap really makes a difference to the overall experience of the device.
Just go buy the droid x and don't spend your precious time here to tell us how you hate HTC and the EVO because you have so much experience with the Droid X to says its so much better.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.
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Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.
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I'm actually waiting to see how thick the S Pro is. If it is pretty thin I might check it out, even though I will probably never use the hardware keyboard. The GPU alone looks to be kicking all kinds of ass.
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I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.
^Do you really need to post that twice?
I totally get that you want your monies worth, I mean who doesn't right? Also as stated we all would have figured it out sooner or later on our own about the caps one way or another. And yes I agree the cap is nonsense and we shouldn't just "make due" but if you bought the evo as a means for serious gaming I think you picked up the wrong device . But all In all I get everyone's point
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You're crap dude. Change your tampon.
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Oh snap! lol I'll be laughing about this remark til tomorrow.
I posted this in the Q&A section and it got a couple of hits the quickly got buried. I was wonder if an app existed or could be developed that would allow you when recording to pause and restat a video without you having to start a whole new video.
I thought about this when my wife was using her evo to record our daughters basketball game and she kept having to stop and start new videos to conserve card space when it would have been easier to pause and resume recording.
I know this could go in the Q&A section but I figured if a developer saw this and had some time or was looking for a new project this would be a good one I think.
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hope you got thick skin
It would be easier to just concatenate the two videos when you need to rather than rewriting the whole camera stack just for that one purpose.
And wrong forum.
I hate to sound rude, but this is a cell phone. It shouldnt be used like a real camera to record your family's important things. If you want a camcorder that will stop and start without making a new clip, you will need a real handheld camcorder. There aren't any apps as far as I know that can do this.
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LMAOOOOO i just understood why u said this about 30 seconds after reading this
if it's a relatively new phone, you can have your wife return it and get the Epic.
My wife has the Epic and it allows you to pause the video and resume without splitting.
Also, the video quality is far, far superior to the Evo. it boarders on Flip quality.
So that's something you can do.
Ok, i get what some people mean by using a dedicated camera for recording but she as well as i both have evo's and we carry those everywhere vs the awh i wish i had a camera moment.
The next thing is that the evo can and does record high quality videos (hdmi out) so why not have an app that makes it act live a regular video camera?
Its too late to swap them out for epic, and i prefer the evo to the epic.
I know there are several phones thst can do it so its not impossible
I know its only about 5 post deep already but i explained why i put this here vs as well as the q&a section.
The evo video quality is far better than flip quality. Come on people really do some of you just sit and wait for an idea to get posted to shoot it down i mean really is that all you guys have in life? If so im happy to give you a reason not to kill yourself.
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I hate to sound rude, but this is a cell phone. It shouldnt be used like a real camera to record your family's important things. If you want a camcorder that will stop and start without making a new clip, you will need a real handheld camcorder. There aren't any apps as far as I know that can do this.
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If the EVO was just a cell phone then I would say you have a point. But the EVO is not built to be just a cell phone, its a smartphone and even saying that is degrading what it do. I had an old 2mp kodak camera a while back which had a small card in it. now you have the EVO with an 8mp camera and a 8gb card and you say don't take pictures. Same thing with the camcorder. If I buy a device worth 400/500 dollars it better be able to do something other than just take cell phone calls. So if dude wants to record rare moments of life that only can be caught if you have a device like this handy, then I say let him. Its not his fault a 3min 5min video is like 2gb. That is where the problem lies, files shouldnt be like that especially if its just a cell phone.
Okay guys I know many xda'ers don't hold apple in high regard but my girlfriend is looking to upgrade her blackberry soon. I would just like some opinions of the dinc2 and if anyone has used an ip4 as well and how do they compare? Hows the camera and video capture on dinc2? Also most likely I will be rooting her phone if she gets the dinc2 because she loves miui and wondering how easy it is to root it, Ive read the alpharev thread and I think I have the gist of it. Thanks any thoughts and opinions would be awesome.
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Okay guys I know many xda'ers don't hold apple in high regard but my girlfriend is looking to upgrade her blackberry soon. I would just like some opinions of the dinc2 and if anyone has used an ip4 as well and how do they compare? Hows the camera and video capture on dinc2? Also most likely I will be rooting her phone if she gets the dinc2 because she loves miui and wondering how easy it is to root it, Ive read the alpharev thread and I think I have the gist of it. Thanks any thoughts and opinions would be awesome.
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I have chick friends that love the inc2, and I have chick friends that love the iphone4, depends on what she or U lol plan to do to it, root, jailbreak, ect..or nothing. if she wants basic go apple. if you want great community support go android.
Its not like android would be particularly difficult to get the hang of, hell my grandpa uses a Droid X. The iPhone isn't going to do anything the inc 2 can't, at this point I think people buy apple due to the perceived status.
And rooting is very simple, its not "one-click" easy, but if you're computer literate its easy. Literally takes a couple minutes once you're ready to go.
I do like the design of apple products but the company and its beloved followers I can't stand. In the end it is up to her but she weighs a lot on my opinion and told her I would ask the fine people at xda as well lol! Also I am cashing out 100 dollars to help pay for it too, and since I got a nexus, I'm hoping she pics the dinc2 .
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I do like the design of apple products but the company and its beloved followers I can't stand. In the end it is up to her but she weighs a lot on my opinion and told her I would ask the fine people at xda as well lol! Also I am cashing out 100 dollars to help pay for it too, and since I got a nexus, I'm hoping she pics the dinc2 .
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Put it this way. you can get an iPhone and be stuck with iOS and whatever memory size you happen to choose forever (not to mention feel bitter once the next iPhone comes out).
Or you can get the more recent, more technically advanced DInc2, and be able interchange SD cards and Batteries, and switch HTC Sense, AOSP, or MIUI (which is basically iOS, except better because you can use widgets and everything else that makes Android awesome). In my opinion, if you fall prey to the flashy logos, sleek design and massive marketing and ignore the obvious advantages of the HTC android phones, then you deserve to be pigeon-holed in with the mouth-breathers that stand outside the Apple Store all night waiting for the iPad 3 to come out so it can (not) run flash up to 3X faster!
The only problem is I wouldn't get too excited about rooting the Inc2 off the jump because if you get one now it's likely to come with Gingerbread (unless one has been sitting on a shelf for a bit). If you get one, you better get it quick. Froyo had the only known root method and no telling how long it'll take to crack Gingerbread
That said, even in the situation that I didn't root, I have the Incredible 2 and I'd take it over the iPhone easily. HTC sense is really not a bad UI at all, slower than AOSP of course but of all the manufacturer skins on top of Android, Sense UI is by far the most useful.
The biggest problem with the iPhone 4 (to me) is that it doesn't really multitask and the hardware is starting to get a bit dated. The iPhone 4 isn't "slow" by any means, but most modern Android phones will run circles around it. The Dinc2 has good battery life too, I have to absolutely abuse mine for it not to last a whole day easily
If you do happen to get one with Froyo, AlpharevX is as painless as it gets. S-off and it installs clockworkmod recovery for you if you elect to.
Thanks guys, told her what you guys said and she is like 100 % sure she wants the dinc2 Now I'm excited, I get to play with 2 phones, hopefully she'll get one with froyo. If not I can always install adw or go luancher if she doesn't like sense.
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If she's coming from Blackberry and uses a ton of photo/video out of the phone the iphone may be better for you.
I switched my wife over from an Inc 1 to the iPhone and she's in love with it. The camera is unrivaled to be brutally honest, it smokes any android phones camera and i'd love for my inc2 to have the same quality.
Basically she's not a tech person, she needed easy, something that took good pictures, and battery. The inc2 has great battery but still nowhere near the IP4.
I've owned both, and I would never personally go back to an iPhone, but for my wife it was perfect for her, and she would never give hers up.
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Thanks guys, told her what you guys said and she is like 100 % sure she wants the dinc2 Now I'm excited, I get to play with 2 phones, hopefully she'll get one with froyo. If not I can always install adw or go luancher if she doesn't like sense.
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If you get one with Gingerbread on it, you can still S-OFF using the clip method.
If you're getting it new from Verizon I can't think of why it wouldn't be on froyo, unless HTC is already shipping out new units with gingerbread. Just don't take the OTA if you want root.
yeah she told me that she "didn't want to fall to the hype of iphone" lol. She just wants a bigger screen, and she always carries around a point and shoot where ever she goes so camera i'snt really that big of a deal. Also the Dinc2 is 50 dollars less than the iphone at bestbuy. All in all she goes one week to make up her mind lol!
well, the way I see it is that an iphone 4 is pretty much an ipod touch that you can make calls with. the other advantage, which is the main one i'd say, is that if you have a nice sound system in your car and the deck has an AUX in then absolutely nothing can compare with the output quality of an ipod touch/iphone.
ive tried mp3 players from creative, sansa(even with rockbox), sony, etc... even tried different phones(mytouch 3g, htc hd2, samsung galaxy s, and my current incredible 2). no matter how you adjust the eq's or what apps you use(even poweramp), they still do not compare to apple.
but, if you arent planning on doing that in your car then theres no point in getting an iphone4(especially now that android has Plants vs Zombies).
Best advice when choosing a device:
Go to a store with active devices and play with them. Spend some time with them. If you know people with the devices in mind, ask them if you can play with them and get to know them. Make the choice based on your experience, not the advice of others, because it all comes down to personal preference.
As much as I am a big fan of Android and Android devices, and despite the fact that I will never choose an iOS device, I would recommend a person try it before rejecting it.
My sister tried going from a blackberry to an Android device and found one very big legitimate problem with it. She's on Sprint and doesn't have the iPhone as a choice so she went back to blackberry. She liked Android, but that one glaring flaw was enough to push her away from it (at least for now). Of course, the same flaw exists on the iPhone so she's doomed to be stuck on blackberry (yeah, I hate blackberry).
If you want to know the flaw: She can make calls and do certain tasks without looking at her device. With Android, she was unable to do this. I'm betting with something like a Droid Pro this wouldn't be an issue, and the voice command features Android has acquired more recently would help a little, but it's not where she could get as proficient at it as she is with her blackberry.
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If you want to know the flaw: She can make calls and do certain tasks without looking at her device. With Android, she was unable to do this. I'm betting with something like a Droid Pro this wouldn't be an issue, and the voice command features Android has acquired more recently would help a little, but it's not where she could get as proficient at it as she is with her blackberry.
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Just out of curiosity, what kind of certain tasks? Is it a difference between having physical buttons versus softkeys?
EDIT: NVM.. I think I figured out what you might be referring to. That's an issue I have as well, but voice is a big help in it (even if not 100%).
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Just out of curiosity, what kind of certain tasks? Is it a difference between having physical buttons versus softkeys?
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Something like that. It's mostly a problem with her particular usage. She gets tactile feedback for what she is trying to do and can generally get things done without looking at her device. She's a pretty big multitasker so this is important to her. Unfortunately, this also helps her use her device in the car (I wish she wouldn't TBH).
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Something like that. It's mostly a problem with her particular usage. She gets tactile feedback for what she is trying to do and can generally get things done without looking at her device. She's a pretty big multitasker so this is important to her. Unfortunately, this also helps her use her device in the car (I wish she wouldn't TBH).
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Tactile feel = knowing keyboard layout. I was real good at punching out emails on my 9700 without looking at it for most of the email. Same with the car use, which I definitely no longer do (despite the fact that it is now also illegal here).
Curiosity answered.. Thanks.
So a while back I was using the HTC One S. I got it for the camera. I prefer samsung, for the most part, and have gone from a vibrant to galaxy s 4g to galaxy s 2. The only reason I did not go to the galaxy s 3 originally was because I needed a better camera. I wound up having to sell my HTC One s for some cash, and now I have the change to get a phone again, I am stuck, once again, between the one s and the s3. Personally, I would like to wait for the note 2, but I don't have the time. I am stuck with a basic flip phone right now, and while i don't mind using a flip phone, I have to have something for tethering with my tablet while I am work. So that is the rock and a hard place. Any phone I buy is going to be a few hundred bucks anyways, so I would rather go another hundred or two more and get the one s or s3.
Personally, the One S was great with the Axiom ROM. The battery lasted forever, and it had great extra features.
However, the s3 is still my preferred choice because of the bigger screen, the 720p, svoice, voice actions, and many other things. Not to mention the extra compatibility with my note 10.1 tablet.
My only real issue here, admidst all my rambling, is the camera. I know the HTC One S has an f/2.0 aperture, and the s3 has a f/2..6 aperture which makes a difference (although some people report the aperture as f/2.4)...my concern is how people actually like the photos and video. Ive noticed some washed out looks compared to the one s. I know the f/2.6 will give better depth vs the f/2.0, but thats about the end of the benefits.
My main concern is quality of photos/videos, and quickness of the picture. I have two young boys and I want to be able to snap a photo that is clear and of good quality, at a moments notice without having to worry about missing it or getting a blurry shot.
Any comments or thoughts on this would be helpful.
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If the cam is your main concern, I think you will be happy either way. There may be a difference side by side but if you're not ccomparing the two like that you probably wouldn't care either way.
While some may have had issues with the camera I would say the vast majority have not.
There are a number of things that could cause pic problems here. Lots of people are running jb leaked firmware. Lots are using the cam from the note2. I seem to remember a few had problems fixed by updating the cam firmware...
But like I said, I doubt you'd be dissatisfied with the gs3. I dont know how theyd compare side by side but unless you're doing just that I dont think you'd notice or care.
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Ive seen plenty of camera shot examples, but pretty much all (most, but not all) are from still photos are "posed" shots. It takes good pictures, and I think my only issue is its a little washed out vs the One S. However, I can deal with that. My biggest question is lag from button press to picture taken.
So, how much lag is there in taking a picture? If I wanted to take a picture right when somewhat hit the water diving off a diving board, or of my cat jumping from fence pole to fence pole and wanted a shot right in the middle between two poles, etc....how easy would it be? With the One S I could get pretty much zero lag. if I hit the capture button its taken the picture right then, and I can click the capture button over and over and over in rapid succession (not burst mode) and take multiple pictures. I really want the GS3 over the One S for other reasons, but need the camera to be on the same level.
So how quick does it take a picture when the button is pressed?...and how quickly does it recover to take another picture?
I find it to be quite quick on all accounts. Hasn't caused me any issues as of yet. Also, there is a feature where you can just record video and then capture the pics you want from the video.
Have you seen the commercial with the hikers and the goat?
The only complaint I have about the camera is the lack of hardware buttons for it. But I can deal with that.
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I find it to be quite quick on all accounts. Hasn't caused me any issues as of yet. Also, there is a feature where you can just record video and then capture the pics you want from the video.
Have you seen the commercial with the hikers and the goat?
The only complaint I have about the camera is the lack of hardware buttons for it. But I can deal with that.
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Thanks for the feedback.
Its rather important to be quick on the camera trigger. Even with the zero lag of the One S I did miss some things. I have my two boys and they can be making a face or doing a little dance to their favorite tv show and I want to capture it, but the moment may just last a few seconds, and I need a quick trigger finger. So I dont want to have to focus and then 'click'. I want to hit and click at the same time.
Right now, however, I am stuck my an LG Mytouch Q and definitely not the best in the camera department. lol
Yeah I hear you on wanting to be able to get that quick shot. Its the msin reason I miss the csm button. But theres also a motion setting where you tap and hold on lock screen whil rotating to landscape takes you straight to the camera. I just added to my lockscreen shortcuts. Auto focus is pretty good too btw.
Dont forget you can always get the S3 and try it for 14 days. If it doesn't meet your needs return it and get the One S.
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Yeah I hear you on wanting to be able to get that quick shot. Its the msin reason I miss the csm button. But theres also a motion setting where you tap and hold on lock screen whil rotating to landscape takes you straight to the camera. I just added to my lockscreen shortcuts. Auto focus is pretty good too btw.
Dont forget you can always get the S3 and try it for 14 days. If it doesn't meet your needs return it and get the One S.
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Thats where my problem lies. I work for T-Mobile. Mind you everything I do here is personal and not affiliated with my tmobile employment, but I work for them, and I know just about everything there is to know about the phones, but because I have not had a chance to really test shutter lag on the phone, I dont know if it meets my needs. I am VERY picky. I don't work in a retail store or anything so I dont deal with the phones in my hand daily.
...and because I work for the company, I do not get a buyers remorse period on my purchases. Once I order it, give or take a couple of exceptions to the rule, its mine. So while I can tell you about every wifi share options, every motion and voice control, and so on, I dont know for sure if the camera lag will be a problem in practical use because I do not have the phone physically with me. ..and when I did have the phone physically with me...I never tested it cause I either had my one s or was not in the mindset of having to buy a phone lol. I will probably get a chance to check out a demo model tomorrow when I head in to work, but I was trying to get it ordered over the weekend, so it would start processing my order. Our order system is different and the sooner the better.
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phoenixbennu said:
So a while back I was using the HTC One S. I got it for the camera. I prefer samsung, for the most part, and have gone from a vibrant to galaxy s 4g to galaxy s 2. The only reason I did not go to the galaxy s 3 originally was because I needed a better camera. I wound up having to sell my HTC One s for some cash, and now I have the change to get a phone again, I am stuck, once again, between the one s and the s3. Personally, I would like to wait for the note 2, but I don't have the time. I am stuck with a basic flip phone right now, and while i don't mind using a flip phone, I have to have something for tethering with my tablet while I am work. So that is the rock and a hard place. Any phone I buy is going to be a few hundred bucks anyways, so I would rather go another hundred or two more and get the one s or s3.
Personally, the One S was great with the Axiom ROM. The battery lasted forever, and it had great extra features.
However, the s3 is still my preferred choice because of the bigger screen, the 720p, svoice, voice actions, and many other things. Not to mention the extra compatibility with my note 10.1 tablet.
My only real issue here, admidst all my rambling, is the camera. I know the HTC One S has an f/2.0 aperture, and the s3 has a f/2..6 aperture which makes a difference (although some people report the aperture as f/2.4)...my concern is how people actually like the photos and video. Ive noticed some washed out looks compared to the one s. I know the f/2.6 will give better depth vs the f/2.0, but thats about the end of the benefits.
My main concern is quality of photos/videos, and quickness of the picture. I have two young boys and I want to be able to snap a photo that is clear and of good quality, at a moments notice without having to worry about missing it or getting a blurry shot.
Any comments or thoughts on this would be helpful.
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IMHO the Galaxy S3 takes the best pics I have ever taken with a phone. See for yourself. I am attaching two pics of a sunset/day-time at Vanderbilt Beach, Florida. Rarely have I been disappointed with the quality of the pics. At least for me, they almost always turn out perfect. I highly recommend the Galaxy S3. Even in low-light situations, you still get a great pic.
Well 1) it's a camera phone and 2) ymmv. There isn't more "lag" than a cheap point and shoot but this isn't a dslr, it's a phone. It's going to come down to to you and each unique situation.
Hey everybody, I am currently a Sprint Customer Who has had the evo 3D since launch. I am in the market for an upgrade, and I am looking at the Note II.
I really like the fact that it is a super powerful phone, and the S-Pen functionality would be of great use to me. Some of the things that I am not sure of have to do with the software...
I noticed with my evo 3D, support was not super quick, and most roms that removed the sense kernel ended up losing 4G and 3D capability, and sometimes even GPS.
I know the GSIII has gained a lot of traction in custom roms, etc, but I don't know if that will be the same for the Note II.
I guess the bottom line here is that I like the Note II, but I don't want TouchWiz, but I still want full functionality especially the 4G and S-Pen. So with that in mind, Do you think this is a good buy?
The difference between this 2 devices is from the earth to the SKY, I been a HTC loyal costumer for over 6 years... this ended when the NOTE 2 came out and so far I LOVE this phone. im pretty sure you will love it too, get a launcher over touchwiz and you will be set.
At first its kind of wow this is too big but now (a week after) its like man look at all those tiny small phones ...
We already have root and some ROMS, so its only a matter of time before we get a big crowd of developers working with us...
go do that swap NOW!!!!
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I just picked up my note 2 from evo3d last night. Once I got home I felt a HUGE disappoint from leaving my 3d woth cm10 coming to touchwiz and how BIG everything is. Day two, im a little more at ease after some sleep.
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
However my biggest hurdle is how unstable this thing feels in one hand. I constsntly feel like I may drop it because the only way to truley be able to use one hand and access everything is to rest the phone on your four fingers while using your thumb to navigate. Versus having end of your other fingers having a sturdy hold on left side of phone like normal.
Using the one-handed option does help for typing and such, but its mainly not being able to reach notification bar while having the firm grip versus resting on four fingers.
Having a inner struggle weather I want to keep this or go exchange for the gs3 later today or tomorrow. I use my phone with one hand a lot so thats a huge issue for me.
Has anyone else gone thru this while switching too the note2? If so how long does it take for that too go away.
Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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chucktownscitch said:
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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Not sure if you knew, you can make the font smaller. You can go to Settings >> Display >> Font Size. You can select tiny but it won't be as small as the font in 3d. but still it makes the font look better.
I used to own the e3d as well but for me, i'm really glad i went with note 2.
I've had every Evo and happy with going to the Note 2 even from the Evo 4G LTE. I would rather stick Note 2 over S3. I love AMOLED screens and very happy they did the RGB setup instead of pentile and a major reason I went Note 2 over the obvious things.
How about one handing the device? Does it feel comfortable or do you feel you could drop it at any second. Mainly with having to pull noti down?
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Thanks everybody for your input on this matter. I do have a question about the AMOLED screens though. From fiddling with the phones a bit in the store(mainly the GSIII and the EVO4) I have noticed that the AMOLED is much dimmer. I knew the sprint rep wouldn't let me take them outside to see what they look like in the sunlight, but I asked him anyways, just for the reaction. Obviously, it was still a no...
How is direct sunlight use? Especially for those coming from the 3VO to the note II.
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Thanks everybody for your input on this matter. I do have a question about the AMOLED screens though. From fiddling with the phones a bit in the store(mainly the GSIII and the EVO4) I have noticed that the AMOLED is much dimmer. I knew the sprint rep wouldn't let me take them outside to see what they look like in the sunlight, but I asked him anyways, just for the reaction. Obviously, it was still a no...
How is direct sunlight use? Especially for those coming from the 3VO to the note II.
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Sorry bro but if the sales rep wouldn't walk you outside so you could see a real world difference then go to a different store with better cs ... my sgs3 does great in sunlight as long as you don't stand with the sun on your screen ...side note...I just switched to sgs3 from the note 1..great transition imo
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Sorry bro but if the sales rep wouldn't walk you outside so you could see a real world difference then go to a different store with better cs ... my sgs3 does great in sunlight as long as you don't stand with the sun on your screen ...side note...I just switched to sgs3 from the note 1..great transition imo
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Yeah, i was in the little strip store by my work, instead of the full sized nice one that I usually go to. Good to hear about the screen, and I'm surprised anybody would be going from a sgs3 to the original note, glad it works out though!
SO im pretty sure im going to get totally flammed for saying this but here goes and I think you need to hear it.
I too upgraded from an evo 3D. I wont lie the note II is an amazing device and is very fast.
Things I like most about it
-Screen size is very impressive for video especially
-Battery life is incredible you can beat on it all day and still have juice in the evening
-Camera is pretty impressive speed very fast fastest ive ever seen on a phone.
-speaker is pretty good audio nice and loud nice if you dont have headphones with you
Unfortunately for me this is where it stops, and I will repeat these are my own opinions.
Things I do not like
-The hardware home button you have to push it in to make it go home kinda pain in the ass since the back and menu are capacitive buttons sure would be nice if they kept them all the same or even better just made it a capacitive button like most of the other manufactures do Its not an iphone I dont want an iphone...
-Screen very poor performance outside, full brightness and I am still thinking to myself this screen is hard to read out in the sun light or even in the car on a nice sunny day, I suppose if I lived in oregon or Washington state along the coast I would not care but here in sunny california its a problem. The Evo 3D is much easier to read outside in direct sunlight
- You cannot operate the camera while on a phone call. Why ? I have no idea but cant do it. Evo can no problem
- You cannot send a txt msg while on the phone either again why? no idea but my evo 3d sure can and its nice sometimes especially on speaker phone.
-I personally think sense is a pretty nice UI better than touchwiz but thats just me so im glad to be back.
-Memory mapping is a problem on this device your SD card will show up as external SD card not SD card so causes problems with a lot of programs unless you root and use directory bind. I did this seemed to work alright but more of a work around to a problem that should have been addressed at time of manufacture in my opinion.
- Stock browser and I like the stock android browsers they are pretty good but for some reason wont txt wrap when you double click to zoom in so you can read paragraphs of text so I am scrolling back and forth to read and I have the largest screen ive ever had on a phone and still find myself scrolling like crazy, hum.
- Swype does not auto space in the browser when posting things such as this very post annoying.
So those were my biggest complaints with the phone aside from this its a pretty nice device. However I did find myself wanting a lot of the features my year and half handset had. Honestly The new features the note II brought to the table for me did not outweigh the simpler things that I routinely use. So I am returning mine this evening and have already re activated my evo 3D and will sit it out till the next HTC device comes down the pipe and see what they bring out.
I will say the 3D does feel small in my hand now but its like an old pair of jeans just feels right, and usually I am very rapid to adopt the next phone I really wanted to like this phone and use it for the next year but I asked myself if I keep having questions if I should return it or not then something is wrong.
Oh a few other things that annoy me about it was the lack of multitasking which I was really looking forward to. However it cannot do that yet=lame...
Im sure much of what I complained about will be addressed through software fixs and what have you at least I like to think so. And I know you can download a bunch of apps to do some of this stuff.
So my best advice go buy one and try it out for a couple of weeks like I did. Its only 35 bucks to turn it back in and go back to your Evo 3D. I will say though the EVO 3D with a custom rom on it is not a bad device and is not really that slow. I think if you are coming from an Evo 4g the drastic difference is bigger or if you are coming from an even older device then it will be mind blowing. But from the evo 3d the Samsung is a nice phone a bit faster for sure but 300 dollars faster and worth 11 dollar a month insurance and 200 dollar deductible for me not so much.
Again not a hater I think the note II is a great device for very specific ppl and a very capable handset. But thought it would be nice to hear somebody else's view that is not all roses
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SO im pretty sure im going to get totally flammed for saying this but here goes and I think you need to hear it.
I too upgraded from an evo 3D. I wont lie the note II is an amazing device and is very fast.
Things I like most about it
-Screen size is very impressive for video especially
-Battery life is incredible you can beat on it all day and still have juice in the evening
-Camera is pretty impressive speed very fast fastest ive ever seen on a phone.
-speaker is pretty good audio nice and loud nice if you dont have headphones with you
Unfortunately for me this is where it stops, and I will repeat these are my own opinions.
Things I do not like
-The hardware home button you have to push it in to make it go home kinda pain in the ass since the back and menu are capacitive buttons sure would be nice if they kept them all the same or even better just made it a capacitive button like most of the other manufactures do Its not an iphone I dont want an iphone...
-Screen very poor performance outside, full brightness and I am still thinking to myself this screen is hard to read out in the sun light or even in the car on a nice sunny day, I suppose if I lived in oregon or Washington state along the coast I would not care but here in sunny california its a problem. The Evo 3D is much easier to read outside in direct sunlight
- You cannot operate the camera while on a phone call. Why ? I have no idea but cant do it. Evo can no problem
- You cannot send a txt msg while on the phone either again why? no idea but my evo 3d sure can and its nice sometimes especially on speaker phone.
-I personally think sense is a pretty nice UI better than touchwiz but thats just me so im glad to be back.
-Memory mapping is a problem on this device your SD card will show up as external SD card not SD card so causes problems with a lot of programs unless you root and use directory bind. I did this seemed to work alright but more of a work around to a problem that should have been addressed at time of manufacture in my opinion.
- Stock browser and I like the stock android browsers they are pretty good but for some reason wont txt wrap when you double click to zoom in so you can read paragraphs of text so I am scrolling back and forth to read and I have the largest screen ive ever had on a phone and still find myself scrolling like crazy, hum.
- Swype does not auto space in the browser when posting things such as this very post annoying.
So those were my biggest complaints with the phone aside from this its a pretty nice device. However I did find myself wanting a lot of the features my year and half handset had. Honestly The new features the note II brought to the table for me did not outweigh the simpler things that I routinely use. So I am returning mine this evening and have already re activated my evo 3D and will sit it out till the next HTC device comes down the pipe and see what they bring out.
I will say the 3D does feel small in my hand now but its like an old pair of jeans just feels right, and usually I am very rapid to adopt the next phone I really wanted to like this phone and use it for the next year but I asked myself if I keep having questions if I should return it or not then something is wrong.
Oh a few other things that annoy me about it was the lack of multitasking which I was really looking forward to. However it cannot do that yet=lame...
Im sure much of what I complained about will be addressed through software fixs and what have you at least I like to think so. And I know you can download a bunch of apps to do some of this stuff.
So my best advice go buy one and try it out for a couple of weeks like I did. Its only 35 bucks to turn it back in and go back to your Evo 3D. I will say though the EVO 3D with a custom rom on it is not a bad device and is not really that slow. I think if you are coming from an Evo 4g the drastic difference is bigger or if you are coming from an even older device then it will be mind blowing. But from the evo 3d the Samsung is a nice phone a bit faster for sure but 300 dollars faster and worth 11 dollar a month insurance and 200 dollar deductible for me not so much.
Again not a hater I think the note II is a great device for very specific ppl and a very capable handset. But thought it would be nice to hear somebody else's view that is not all roses
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All of that you listed has been addressed before you even got the phone and was tested/working a few days after the phone came out...
eovnu87435ds said:
Yeah, i was in the little strip store by my work, instead of the full sized nice one that I usually go to. Good to hear about the screen, and I'm surprised anybody would be going from a sgs3 to the original note, glad it works out though!
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No...I had the note and sold it, and bought an S3...hardware wise there just isn't any comparison... and I can run serenity rom which turns my phone in a note 2!
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Anyone who says the screen isnt brighter has been smoking too much hash. I could hardly see either of my evo's on a sunny day, this thing is leaps and bounds brighter and clearer outside then an evo. I dont even have to take off my polarized Ray Bans to see the screen. I have perfect vision so it may be different for contact or eyeglass wearer.
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No...I had the note and sold it, and bought an S3...hardware wise there just isn't any comparison... and I can ...serenity rom which turns my phone in a note 2!
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I have to get that rom that makes my phone bigger and gives it double the cores. DL link please.
Getting Anxious
I am currently rocking the EVO 4G and I lovied this phone when I got it but started to notice that it seemed like the last great phone that HTC made. I dont get my upgrade until Dec. 1st and I cant wait unitl I can finally get rid of this thing I call a smart phone and get a truely amazing device that is the Note II. I was a little upset when the original Note was on AT&T only but now that the successor is out for Sprint, I am as giddy as a school girl. Reading most of these comments makes me that much more anxious to get my hands on one so that I can finally see the awesomeness and true power of Samsung. Thanks for all the great input from all of your posts.
I'd make your decision based on your preferred screen size. There are a lot of great devices out at the moment.
I can recommend this device if you like the size.
chucktownscitch said:
I just picked up my note 2 from evo3d last night. Once I got home I felt a HUGE disappoint from leaving my 3d woth cm10 coming to touchwiz and how BIG everything is. Day two, im a little more at ease after some sleep.
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
However my biggest hurdle is how unstable this thing feels in one hand. I constsntly feel like I may drop it because the only way to truley be able to use one hand and access everything is to rest the phone on your four fingers while using your thumb to navigate. Versus having end of your other fingers having a sturdy hold on left side of phone like normal.
Using the one-handed option does help for typing and such, but its mainly not being able to reach notification bar while having the firm grip versus resting on four fingers.
Having a inner struggle weather I want to keep this or go exchange for the gs3 later today or tomorrow. I use my phone with one hand a lot so thats a huge issue for me.
Has anyone else gone thru this while switching too the note2? If so how long does it take for that too go away.
Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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Since you use it one handed a lot, you should look into a flygrip. There is a video review on YouTube.
Hey, I would just like to thank everybody who has given their input in my thread here. I'd like to inform everybody that I am now a proud owner of a titanium Sprint Note II!. The capability of the phone impresses me, and my only fault is that it is taking me a bit of time to find the best way to hold it.
Thanks everybody!