I am waiting for the official 2.3 update these days, just as everybody else.
But I am beginning to doubt that it will make me happy. Sounds like I will have even less memory for apps and such. I am curious to see Sense 2.1 on the Desire, so maybe I'll try it out.
But: Sense (at least the current Sense on the current official 2.2 release), isn't really very important for me. Performance, available memory, battery life and stability is more important to me. Customizability and the ability to run apps that require root (I have never rooted my phone before) might be a nice side benefit too.
So should I wait for the official 2.3 or just go with cyanogenmod now?
What will Sense 2.1 give me?
What will the official 2.3 update give me that current cyanogenmod won't?
How long until a cyanogenmod based on the official 2.3 is released?
Can I take a full snapshot backup of my phone in it's current state and always be able to restore it, ROM, installed apps, settings, contacts and what not? Would be nice before I mess with cyanogenmod. I want to be able to go back to my current state, if possible.
If I install the official 2.3 (when it is released) will I then be able to downgrade easily to my current ROM and state? Will I be able to install cyanogenmod if I have official 2.3?
Thanks
pinkfloydhomer said:
So should I wait for the official 2.3 or just go with cyanogenmod now?
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Up to you. I like Sense, especially customised so I'm in for official release, more precise, their derivatives.
pinkfloydhomer said:
What will Sense 2.1 give me?
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Recent apps and toggles in notification drawer, home screen personalisation, HTCSense.com, moar content on HTC hub, moar eye candy, Friendstream integration.
pinkfloydhomer said:
What will the official 2.3 update give me that current cyanogenmod won't?
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Legendary social networks integration.
pinkfloydhomer said:
How long until a cyanogenmod based on the official 2.3 is released?
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Till the end of time approximately.
pinkfloydhomer said:
Can I take a full snapshot backup of my phone in it's current state and always be able to restore it, ROM, installed apps, settings, contacts and what not?
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It would be responsible to do a nandroid backup before you do anything.
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If I install the official 2.3 (when it is released) will I then be able to downgrade easily to my current ROM and state?
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Yes if you do a nandroid backup.
pinkfloydhomer said:
Will I be able to install cyanogenmod if I have official 2.3?
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Yes.
Will cyanogenmod feel faster and more responsive?
pinkfloydhomer said:
Will cyanogenmod feel faster and more responsive?
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Yes, it's much faster than any Sense-based ROM. And you also get the latest Android available (at the moment: GRJ90 - I've heard it's 2.3.5 with nightlies).
Keep in mind though that Cyanogen is pure Android (with many mods and tweaks), so it'll look much different than official ROM.
You know 2.3 won't be available on HTC Desire, just Desire HD and Z. You shouldn't wait anymore
CyanogenMod is very fast, very stable and very awesome
I'm using CM7.1 and its running perfectly
I still don't understand why people are so in love with Sense, it clogs up your phone and is sluggish.
I've never looked back since going with CyanogenMod, its faster, more flexible, stable, customizable
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Hi,
first of all, you can simply root your phone, you can only benefit.
After that you have rooted your phone you have the ability to do a complete screenshot of your rom(nandroid backup) and roll it back whenever you want.
So with a done nandroid backup, you can simply try most of the roms!
But i would suggest that you wait a few days after the release of the 2.3 update, so the devs can cook their roms.
So AOSP(Cyanogenmod) vs Sense
i am not very familiar with cyanogenmod but i will probably choose it one day (next android version)
they build many great features in their rom and its abolutly worth trying!
And i think with a little search affort you can find most of the Sense Features!
but i am with Sense Roms, but will change if they get too outdated!
A big reason to stay with Sense is Htc Sync (Outlook Cal Sync), i have tried MyPhoneExplorer but it isnt the same.
Also the whole Social thing is so nice integratet, you can share from everywhere(website, sms,...) things with others, with a nice shortcut.
Also the camera app is very nice(dont know the current from cyanogen) but i have the sense3 cam on my mobile and its brilliant
But mostly i think its a look/feel thing
I remember some situations where i thought a aosp would be nice but most of the time i am good with sense
My conclusion is if you want a complete solution stay with sense, if you want to change and customize everything go with cyanogen
Edith: After trying Cyanogen Nightly#147 for a few hours, i saw what i miss in (stock) cyanogenmod:
First minor downside is the need for bluetooth when using the fm-radio.
Ok now i started the Camera to see whats up here, and the aosp camera is quite good,
focus solution could be better and the app is ugly as hell but thats not important.
But what for me is important is a good Calendar Solution, and here sucks Stock Android!
No Offline Calendar, you need a Google or Exch.-Acc to open the app, also its ugly and i dislike it.
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Hello,
I just received my HTC Desire, i'm quite happy, he's very nice !
I would like to know if it is possible to upgrade it CM6.
I'm already using a HTC Magic and I really like the battery life in CM6.
I made a picture of the software settings inside so you can see the version i'm running.
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Thanks for your help !
Yes, you can root. I had the exact same version when i rooted.
Use this method: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...e-now-with-hboot-0-80-and-os-to-1-21-support/
Its really easy, just read it carefully and ask any questions if you need.
Good luck
Thanks
I just created the goldcard, now let's see next...
After reading alot of threads and post, I think I'll stay with the stock rom.
It seems that there is no way to backup actual rom and also, no way to have led working.
It seems that CM6 is not yet ready for Bravo(htc desire), so I'll wait for something fully working...
The Transporter said:
After reading alot of threads and post, I think I'll stay with the stock rom.
It seems that there is no way to backup actual rom and also, no way to have led working.
It seems that CM6 is not yet ready for Bravo(htc desire), so I'll wait for something fully working...
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I have everything working with a modified version of DJ DROID, including leds.
You cant backup you current "pre-root" rom because to FULLY backup your rom, you need root. But you can backup contacts, SMS, etc with My Backup Pro, its a 1-time operation.
The roms based on the HTC froyo leak, aka v2.04 + nem radio v5.x are usually pretty fast and stable. Also, current MoDaCo r4 is shaping really well.
What we're still missing is a fast, stable, no bull****, no SENSE, AOSP rom. We have some good ones (like OpenDesire) but they're not exactly there yet. Cyanogen will be great too, if it goes well.
My advice is to root and go with DJ DROID or some other rom based on the HTC leak, they're VERY fast. I cant go back to android v2.1 now that im used to 2.2.
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I have everything working with a modified version of DJ DROID, including leds.
You cant backup you current "pre-root" rom because to FULLY backup your rom, you need root. But you can backup contacts, SMS, etc with My Backup Pro, its a 1-time operation.
The roms based on the HTC froyo leak, aka v2.04 + nem radio v5.x are usually pretty fast and stable. Also, current MoDaCo r4 is shaping really well.
What we're still missing is a fast, stable, no bull****, no SENSE, AOSP rom. We have some good ones (like OpenDesire) but they're not exactly there yet. Cyanogen will be great too, if it goes well.
My advice is to root and go with DJ DROID or some other rom based on the HTC leak, they're VERY fast. I cant go back to android v2.1 now that im used to 2.2.
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It seems that DJ Droid is very sexy indead
But as you said, I found Sense very nice, but I prefer my stock applications.
My best desktop is CyanogenMod 6 (Android 2.2) when it will be done (but the RC1 is really stable, I use it every day on my Magic), LauncherPro and that's it.
Nothing more, nothing less
Here on the phone, I've installed LauncherPro, removed Sense, and it's already a bit better.
I miss the PicasaSync ! But I love the Dialer, so much more faster and nice than the stock one !
I know, such a question is asked every day but since the froyo OTA was released many roms changed completly and many new roms were created, too.
Unfortunally I dont have the time to test all of them, so I just wanted to ask for your suggestions
Which froyo-sense-rom do you use and is it worth flashing?
I have to say that I really haven't used any other custom ROM, but I've stuck with LeeDroid too. I'm currently using 1.6a as it has been perfectly stable with lots of nice apps not included in other ROM's. I love it also because it's updated almost daily. I'm still using 1.6a since 1.7 is based on the official HTC Froyo ROM and it's not as stable yet. I'm waiting until it's as flawless as 1.6a and upgrading then
on stock froyo 2.2 rooted (hboot .80) cause I can't be flashing custom roms for fixes daily. Need a stable (doesn't have be super speedy) rom with froyo and rooted for everyday use!
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I have to say that I really haven't used any other custom ROM, but I've stuck with LeeDroid too. I'm currently using 1.6a as it has been perfectly stable with lots of nice apps not included in other ROM's. I love it also because it's updated almost daily. I'm still using 1.6a since 1.7 is based on the official HTC Froyo ROM and it's not as stable yet. I'm waiting until it's as flawless as 1.6a and upgrading then
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Exactly the same for me atm - would like to have a daily useable rom which is built from the ota. Maybe I will give 1.7b a try
From the beginning I've only wanted root access with the stock HTC ROMs as my daily use. I rarely flash additions and whatever I do is for long term use. I don't have time for problems and fussing around with new variables, bugs and shortcomings. Stock MFG ROM releases generally have excellency in stability, consistency, integrity and reliability which is exactly what I'm after. So I'm using the rooted HTC 2.2 ROM. Every mod or hack I needed is working on it. Battery life is still excellent. I couldn't be happier.
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im using nextsence, i usually prefer stock roms over custom roms but this one is sweet, its like the stock rom but with a cool theme
I'm currently using the LeeDroid 1.7 Froyo ROM. Its working a treat for me at the moment, not crashes or stability issues, my only concern is that when having to reflash ROM's all the time that I will keep losing my apps. Though i'm told this is not the case if you use A2SD/A2SD+
I tried flashing 1.7b, but got no APN and couldnt add them manually. So i switched back to 1.6a
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I'm currently using the LeeDroid 1.7 Froyo ROM. Its working a treat for me at the moment, not crashes or stability issues, my only concern is that when having to reflash ROM's all the time that I will keep losing my apps. Though i'm told this is not the case if you use A2SD/A2SD+
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Try titanium backup from the market to restore apps & system data...
None.
I use cyanogenmod, its pretty stable now.
I still cant see what the fuss over sence is. Am I missing something
mercianary said:
None.
I use cyanogenmod, its pretty stable now.
I still cant see what the fuss over sence is. Am I missing something
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I used to have CM on my g1 too for long time...
I really love the sense widgets - and I can't find good replacements for them in the market
Only one choice imo if you want a stable & fast Froyo Sense. Neophyte 1.6.
Seriously - I've tried nearly every Rom including LeeDroid and this one is so much better than all of them.
atm I'm using Leedroid 1.8.
Really stable Rom - didnt see any bugs yet...
We have got many good developers here working on different ROMS.
I just would like to know what ROM are you all using at the moment and why.
I used most of the time Sense rom from Leedroid. I love his boot image and the fact it is sense rom. I tried Sense HD and I like it, but until the camera works is no good for me for day to day use. Last couple of days I use MIUI and it is really different but nice (like iphone OS but on better device)
I've used Defrost, Opendesire, Villainrom, SupervillainHD and Oxygen. Like the ASOP roms the best, as they are the fastest, allow me to choose the addons more (not 3 or more programs for one task, if i don't want to use Sense apps), and are more versatily (at least, appear to me to be so).
Moved to general as this is in no way pertaining to ROM development.
fair enough. I just tought the poll might help people to choose a rom to use/try.
I am using pinky desire classsic at the moment .
CM 6.1 RC - cause simply I hate to update alot. I'm considering it the latest satisfying my needs!
using pays sense rom
tried auraxtsense rom, but reverted back to pays
it has the best dialer i have seen in a rom.
would like to try sense HD, but wont until they fix the camera
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CM 6.1 RC - cause simply I hate to update alot. I'm considering it the latest satisfying my needs!
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I never really tried CM rom. i have to give it a go.
What does Stock mean if you've got Sense?? Sense is stock on the Desire...
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What does Stock mean if you've got Sense?? Sense is stock on the Desire...
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By sense rom he probably mean roms like leedroid etc.
On that assumption I voted stock as I'm running the stock 2.29.405.2 WWE ROM
Why? As it does all I need it to
OpenDesire
I went from stock ROM to OpenDesire 4.0.36. I do not miss Sense at all and BT keyboard now works (why, HTC, oh why?). The only thing I miss from Sense is the weather widget.
Too bad OpenDesire will not be updated any longer as from the final 4.1 version. I hope it gets Gingerbread (2.3) in the final build.
Leedroid, because it has apps2sd by default and is pretty clean and has some other nice little touches (but still pretty close to stock) like a transparent notification drawer
I tried all rom types, but in the end I return to Sense. People who say AOSP or Cyanogen are faster have clearly never used a sense rom. It's at least on par and scrolling is smoother.
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By sense rom he probably mean roms like leedroid etc.
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yes that's exactly what I mean
Teppic74's Rom and tweaks: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997
With the GPU and SD card patched kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819601
And a theme I made using UOT kitchen.
I like sense, and I wanted something relatively close to stock but with A2SD and a few other bits and pieces.
As title says..what do you think is the best ROM? and why? I have finally rooted the DHD and I want to try something new
Pls suggests me
thanks in advance for the answers
Can't really comment on Android revolution as I have never used it, don't like sense and hadn't realised there was a no sense option.
Cm 6 is great and the latest release is very stable, but...
Cm 7 brings gingerbread I have had no stability issues, and have been running it since the builds where unofficially compiled from source, current nightly builds are great.
But everyone has different needs / likes, I have been a CM fan since I first installed it on my HTC Magic and it suits me, give Android revolution a go and see what you think you've nothing to lose except your time
yea you can't compare those roms
sense vs. clean 2.2 vs. clean 2.3
depending on what u prefer
some like sense, some like a full stable 2.2, some like to play test person and use 2.3 nightly
I used PNK22 for my day to day rom. For a time had no real problems with it other then no camara yet, this was and still is the only reason i am not using it today..
lodger said:
I used PNK22 for my day to day rom. For a time had no real problems with it other then no camara yet, this was and still is the only reason i am not using it today..
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Quite a problem ! all hardware functioning with cm 7
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Quite a problem ! all hardware functioning with cm 7
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what build?
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what build?
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hardware has been functioning for me since build #1, currently I am running build #18
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hardware has been functioning for me since build #1, currently I am running build #18
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good
just a question..there's update manager or something like this in the CM7?
I mean, if I install build 18 then build 19 is released how can I upgrade?
download it from thread and flash or use rom manager (the paid version) to get notified and download it on your mobile + update
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good
just a question..there's update manager or something like this in the CM7?
I mean, if I install build 18 then build 19 is released how can I upgrade?
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by simply installing the zip, you dont need to wipe anything as long as only a small amount has changed. Using rom manager or rebooting into recovery and installing zip with that will work.
but, if there is a large change you will need to wipe data etc. Just make sure you dont wipe your sd card
can someone give me a link to the "stable" version of cm7? the development forum is a bit confusing cause there are too many links of CM7 and I can't understand the one you are talking about
h t t p ://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=ace
There is not yet a stable ROM of CM7 for Desire HD.
I'm running Nightly Build #14 smoothly.
Greetz
i loved CM7, but i also liked the integration with sense so i went with revolution, but i prefer the gingerbread keyboard
I'm currently running Android Revolution 2.0.8 with a few customisations of my own and I love it. That said I can't use a ROM which doesn't have Sense UI.
If I could put up with not having the additions that Sense UI adds to a ROM, I'd probably be using a CM7 nightly.
It's Revolution 2.0.9 now (fast developer ), but I find this best for my needs personally. It's all about individuality, so try each one you like the look of and stick with the one that works best for you.
Hey guys
I'm flashing my mom's Desire (she has no need for any extra features above the desire's stock ones) so I'm wondering if you have any recomendations on a very stable and fast ROM?
I would have installed the stock desire rom, but since I rooted and s-offed the device already it seems a waste to lose it.
Thanks alot for your help
Oh and Sense is a must, she just learned how to use it, if i give her an AOSP rom she will have to learn to use it again...
USE THE SEARCH!!! This question was asked soo often.
Sent from Oxygen
LeeDroid - great rom!
New Leedroid's hd port is best for me so far.
ZedeN said:
she has no need for any extra features above the desire's stock ones.
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But if she doesn't need extra features, why do you flash it?
ZedeN said:
but since I rooted and s-offed the device already it seems a waste to lose it
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Can't you install stock s-offed and rooted?
Why would you root it at all when she doesn't need any extra functions? Also, you choose wrong timing to do so with official Gingerbread release in the upcoming weeks.
But, if I was doing so, I'd flash AuraxTSense 8.4.
sorry to barge in but i was wondering the same question! i know whats the OP need, he bought a new phone and giving the Desire to his mom. am i right?
even if you are not, i just bought SGS2 today and giving my Desire to my mum. need recommendation too. the most stock look and can be stable and no performance decrease in a long run. cuz i am gonna be away from her when college opens, so i dont want the phone to have trouble.
S-offed, rooted, Cm7 r2 hboot. but i'll go back to stock hboot maybe.
Try SGBS ROM!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124810
Teppic74's ROM's are all stock and I started out on them. They're great and have some great power saving features hard coded in.
Would be great for your mum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997 - Teppic's Thread
2.10.405.2 INIT.D ROM v2.0
This version is mostly identical to the first except it has a minor mod to enable init.d scripts. No scripts are included, so this won't affect anything in itself. However, it gives much greater flexibility for mods, and is required if you want to make some of the changes below. This version of the ROM doesn't include the radio, so you must flash an up to date version yourself if you don't have one already. You do not have to install the first ROM before this. Updates: latest Superuser app and new boot image (closer to stock).
Download ROM with init.d Support (2.0)
Radio 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=422094&d=1287437934 <- Powersaving pack to flash at recovery AFTER ROM Flash
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=404595&d=1284981062 <- A2SD+ highly recommended so that your mum doesn't run out of room after a week of using the phone because contacts, emails and other app data also eat internal storage. Hit me up if you don't know how to partition her SD card to have an EXT4 partition
Basically, if you just flash the first two download links in the quote, you'll have rooted ROM that is entirely stock. No extra features or anything that isn't in the HTC RUU. Then if you flash the powersaving mod, nothing changes featurewise but internally the phone will use less power and her battery will last longer. She won't need to do a thing. With A2SD+, all you need to do is go through installed apps every now and again and move them to the internal storage (as the phone is "tricked" into installing apps on the EXT4 partition instead of on the phone itself, which means more apps available to be installed but just as fast as normal).
Wait, it's S-OFF and rooted? Why not give RCMix S Evolutionary Sense v2.0 a go?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988570
I've been using it personally since the end of May. No problems at all, just lacking updates (but the developer is busy withj real life, so that's that)
It's using the new Sensation and 2.3.3 Android version and, it's sense, and, it looks sexy.
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Also, excuse my tutorial-like post above. If you can S-OFF and root the phone chances are you know half of that!
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Also, excuse my tutorial-like post above. If you can S-OFF and root the phone chances are you know half of that!
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I wouldn't put my money on it if I was you. Hint: check the newest Leedroid thread and see massive number of people trying to squeeze /system of 145mb on oxygen hboot. All rooted and have s-off. No offense on the op.
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But if she doesn't need extra features, why do you flash it?
Can't you install stock s-offed and rooted?
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It was my phone for less than a week over the easter, rooted, s-offed installed rcmix v8 then I got myself my new Desire HD and been using that (sig).
For the Desire I installed RCMix's rom since i didn't mind any bugs, restarts and force closes since i thought i would update it on regular basis with the new versions. But as soon as I got my new phone, I left the country (student in uk) and just came back this week for holidays, and my mom has been complaining with reliability so I'm returning her phone to the most stable build of 'stock-like' rom.
If you mean flashing a RUU and then rooting and s-offing that just seems a bit of a waste of time. Since it's already rooted and s-offed i would like to keep it that way.
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Why would you root it at all when she doesn't need any extra functions? Also, you choose wrong timing to do so with official Gingerbread release in the upcoming weeks.
But, if I was doing so, I'd flash AuraxTSense 8.4.
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Read above and the official GB for desire is unknown time away from now, HTC if i recall corectly have loads of problems with the lack of memory and they still havent given a release date. So as far as I know GB might come in months.
Thanks for the ROM name, i will check it out!
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Teppic74's ROM's are all stock and I started out on them. They're great and have some great power saving features hard coded in.
Would be great for your mum.
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Thanks a lot man, that sound like exactly the ROM she needs, I will check it out and thanks for the tutorial, i knew most of it but thanks for the effort
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Wait, it's S-OFF and rooted? Why not give RCMix S Evolutionary Sense v2.0 a go?!
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I might give it a try but im using sense 3.0 on my DHD and even with the newer CPU and more memory and more frequent updates it still has a few glitches. I searched through the thread and it seems that the ROM still requires some bug fixes (ppl talking about bugs with headset and other small bits and bobs)
Thanks everyone for your replies, I will check out the rom's and see which one will suit her best!
No probs.
I'm using a D2EXT modded version and I don't have any problems with the headset. The v2.0 is pretty ironed out, 2.1 is where people seem to be having issues. But for your mum I guess the Twppic74 ROM would be best, definitely!
@theguybefore Eh, but they're all pretty clear that you need the Cyanogen hboot? I guess you're right!
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Read above and the official GB for desire is unknown time away from now, HTC if i recall corectly have loads of problems with the lack of memory and they still havent given a release date. So as far as I know GB might come in months.
Thanks for the ROM name, i will check it out!
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That's old info. Latest news is that it passed QC and should be released in the next three weeks.
Forget 3.0 etc port stuff etc., you know you need rooted stock. She doesn't care for Sense 3.0 but cares if bluetooth doesn't work with handsfree.
Pretty sure bluetooth works ok with this ROM. It's hit and miss and dependant on hardware. The RCMixS ROM as I said has bee really ironed out. There's also the InsertCoin ROM which he's more up to date with advancements!
Hope you find the Teppic74 ROM well! Served me well for many months.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App
I've been using [ROM][03/06][STABLE][Sense2.1+3.0 GB]InsertCoin CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.0.8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
Superb ROM - Once I'd managed to install it (only recently acquired a Desire from a Hero upgrade) it's been excellent.
I can't find fault: Bluetooth (inc car kit), camera, video, iPlayer, GPS, Speed etc etc all running nice and smooth.
The only thing is that the arcade boot screen might not be to your Mom's liking - although boot time is good.
Cheers,
Rob