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[Q] How to get Froyo: T-Mobile unlocked now on o2

My desire was purchased on T-Mobile (has T-Mobile startup screen), I also bought an unlock code from them. I'm now using my o2 contract sim in the phone. I'm interested in updating the software to FROYO but have no idea how to go about it.
I don't want to do anything complicated and am happy to wait for an official release. I've read the network sends an update direct to your phone. In my case would this come from T-Mobile or o2?
When I check for system updates it says none are available. My software number is 1.15.110.11
I've looked around the forum for ages but I still can't get a definite answer to my question.

You can be waiting for a very long time for froyo from a network provider.
It's easy to debrand and upgrade your phone. Create a goldcard & download an official ROM. Then you can simply upgrade OTA. There's loads of guides on this forum.

Hi there!
Understand your situation, since I had almost exactly the same circumstances (mine is running on orange)! I couldnt get a definite answer either, so bit the bullet anyway and did it, here is how:
1-rooted the phone by UnrEVOked method (really couldnt be bothered by the goldcard etc method; this method was easy, just had some driver install problems since the guide isnt too good on this point, but its easy to figure it out)
2-Installed the new radio
3-installed the generic rooted 2.2 ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775, just by doing an easy straighforward update from the sdcard by going to the bootloader.
Phone was still UNLOCKED,and all running ok. Just had an issue where the phone would say "sim card changed, do you want ot load settings etc". Say NO, otherwise you lose your wallpapers, scenes, etc settings, and you have to redo the whole shebang.
Hope your experience is same as mine, im a noob too, so dont take anything for granted (your phone may have different firmware from mine etc), and make doubly sure before you go ahead!
Good luck.

k.aalai said:
Hi there!
Understand your situation, since I had almost exactly the same circumstances (mine is running on orange)! I couldnt get a definite answer either, so bit the bullet anyway and did it, here is how:
1-rooted the phone by UnrEVOked method (really couldnt be bothered by the goldcard etc method; this method was easy, just had some driver install problems since the guide isnt too good on this point, but its easy to figure it out)
2-Installed the new radio
3-installed the generic rooted 2.2 ROM ... just by doing an easy straighforward update from the sdcard by going to the bootloader.
Phone was still UNLOCKED,and all running ok. Just had an issue where the phone would say "sim card changed, do you want ot load settings etc". Say NO, otherwise you lose your wallpapers, scenes, etc settings, and you have to redo the whole shebang.
Hope your experience is same as mine, im a noob too, so dont take anything for granted (your phone may have different firmware from mine etc), and make doubly sure before you go ahead!
Good luck.
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Hi mate.
I'm in exact the same situation (German T-mobile 2.1 Softnumber: 1.15.110.11). Your guide looks awesome!!! Can you please please please write it in a bit detail?? from a factory branded 2.1 to root, then to froyo?? please??
I read the UnrEVOked guide from rootmydroid.co.uk
but looks like I only need to the first half for your step 1?
does it root the phone ? does it wipe all my settings and apps???
I also don't know what to do with the radio in your step 2??
can you please help??!! THX soooooooooo much !!!!

Hi thanks for the replies, very useful info.
Does rooting the phone invalidate the warranty?? That's what's putting me off doing it and why I'm happy to wait for an official update.

Hey forgot10!
The step 2 of unrevoked guide is installing the ROM of your choice. Just pick the new ROM you want (from many here and other forums, I just picked a rooted generic 2.2), and install as per part 2 of the unrevoked guide.
2.2 requires a new radio, which is linked and shown in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775. Installing the radio doesnt wipe the data, but you seem to need to WIPE (from the recovery image) before putting the new ROM. So use TItanium Backup, or MYbackup, to save your apps, and user data on the SD card, then when the new ROM is installed, you reinstall one of those apps (from market) then rewrtie your apps/data!
As per warranty, check the other threads to be sure, but i think, yes it does invalidate your warranty, but im not 100% certain!
Regards

k.aalai said:
Hey forgot10!
The step 2 of unrevoked guide is installing the ROM of your choice. Just pick the new ROM you want (from many here and other forums, I just picked a rooted generic 2.2), and install as per part 2 of the unrevoked guide.
2.2 requires a new radio, which is linked and shown in {newbie cannot posted link }. Installing the radio doesnt wipe the data, but you seem to need to WIPE (from the recovery image) before putting the new ROM. So use TItanium Backup, or MYbackup, to save your apps, and user data on the SD card, then when the new ROM is installed, you reinstall one of those apps (from market) then rewrtie your apps/data!
As per warranty, check the other threads to be sure, but i think, yes it does invalidate your warranty, but im not 100% certain!
Regards
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Thanks mate! it make much better sense for me now!! Im gonna try it next weekend!!

HTC Evo, want to do a froyo 2.2 stock

Hello all I just received my Evo yesterday. I managed to Root the phone using Unrevoked 3.21. But, now I just want to wipe everything and build my phone from the ground up. I wanna do the latest android so froyo 2.2 and on stock HTC Sense. Can anybody link me to a guide that will lead me to the right direction? Thanks.

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Hello all I just received my Evo yesterday. I managed to Root the phone using Unrevoked 3.21. But, now I just want to wipe everything and build my phone from the ground up. I wanna do the latest android so froyo 2.2 and on stock HTC Sense. Can anybody link me to a guide that will lead me to the right direction? Thanks.
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You got lots and lots of reading to do. There is no specific guide, you need to learn what ROMs are what.
Good luck building your phone from the ground up and then adding in Sense.
Why did you root if you didn't have a reason to do it? You were at 2.2 and HTC sense when you bought the phone.

First things first....
1) Have you made yourself familiar with recovery mode yet and what it can do?
2) Have you done a nandroid backup yet? This should of been the first thing to do after rooting.
If you have not done this and need help just post back so u can be directed to the right walkthrough.
If you have done this and want to use your phone with the latest software and root capabilities, then I would suggest downloading the latest HTC 3.30 from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819838 It has not been officially released yet but seems to be very stable and contains some official fixes. I have flashed it myself and seems to be working fine. Make sure you do a full wipe and backup before flashing. This should put your phone to stock w/ root capabilities and let you build on the latest software from the ground up.
**By the way...if you are planning to use themes then download the "deOdexed" version, otherwise, get the "Odexed".
Hope this helps.

All I did was root my phone and downloaded Titanium Backup and got rid of some Sprint apps. That's about it... but no, I am not really familiar with recovery mode and nandroid back up. So, all the help I can get is always welcome. Thanks.
Also, when I do a complete wipe and reinstall the stock rom, the Sprint apps will also be included?

If it is the stock rom then unless whoever posted it took these out, then they should be on there. Can't remember for sure, but I believe the stock 3.30 will take you to exactly like stock except rooted and with new software version.
Couple things you should do first....
1) Read through this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790427
2) Search for how to do nandroid backup and get that done first. Without it, you have nothing to recover if something does not flash properly.
3) Read, read, read.....if there is something you don't understand search these forums or the internet. If you can't find the answer then post something.
**If you are rooted do not take the OTA updates. It could really screw things up. Check in these forums first because something will be posted about it.

[Q] 2.3question

Hi guys great site. Just a few questions before i try and load 2.3 to my stock 2.2 defy. Can i go back to 2.2 incase i need to send my phone for repair at some point in the future. And what is the best thread to use for instructions and files. I am from the uk and on orange
Thanks
Djc

Just one quick question for you: Have you even tried to SEARCH for an answer prior to posting?
I know that there are some good souls around that will answer your question even if it was answered thousand times before. I, however, won't.
Good luck.

yes i have but there are contredicting answers all over the forum so that is why it is best to ask and hopefully someone could give me a straight answer
djc!!

djc151084 said:
Hi guys great site. Just a few questions before i try and load 2.3 to my stock 2.2 defy. Can i go back to 2.2 incase i need to send my phone for repair at some point in the future. And what is the best thread to use for instructions and files. I am from the uk and on orange
Thanks
Djc
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Yes, you can downgrade. One thing you have to remember - NEVER EVER flash leaked 2.3 Motorola ROMs straight to your phone. You have to use fixed releases with Nandroid backup that you restore via Clockwork and special SBF to flash immediately afterward.
Cyanogenmod and MIUI (most popular 2.3 ROMs) are pretty much safe.

Hi thanks for your reply, and just an update on this ,
I am now running 2.3.4 fine with no problems only bit i dont quite understand is the overclocking values mentiond in the guide i followd, but i suppose there is no need to overclockk for my use at this time maybe i will learn it in the future, i have installd all the software to do it.
here is the brilliant guide i followd, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135901
Thanks to the auther of that thread and all the people who helped in making it possiblle
djc

Hi guys is there a guide to rollback to my nandroid backup incase i need it for warrenty purposes one day,
thanks
djc

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Assuming you are coming from 2.3 (Eg CM7), the gist:
While starting up the phone press and hold volume up to go into bootloader mode.
Connect to computer via USB and start RSD Lite (version 4.9) and flash your 2.2 SBF (Look at sticky on dev forum) from which you had originally created the nandroid backup.
Load it up, root, restore nandroid to get back applications and data.
Search dev forum for complete guide.

tejus.k.v said:
Assuming you are coming from 2.3 (Eg CM7), the gist:
While starting up the phone press and hold volume up to go into bootloader mode.
Connect to computer via USB and start RSD Lite (version 4.9) and flash your 2.2 SBF (Look at sticky on dev forum) from which you had originally created the nandroid backup.
Load it up, root, restore nandroid to get back applications and data.
Search dev forum for complete guide.
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Hi i lookd in the sticky you above mentiond and i can not find my version of sbf, i had 2.2.4 orange uk is there a diffrent way or not ?
thanks
djc

2.2.4??
Okay I haven't heard about such a version of android ever...it has been either 2.2.1 or 2.2.2
Sorry I guess I can't help you, I don't know anything about carrier specific ROMs and such...

tejus.k.v said:
2.2.4??
Okay I haven't heard about such a version of android ever...it has been either 2.2.1 or 2.2.2
Sorry I guess I can't help you, I don't know anything about carrier specific ROMs and such...
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Maybe your right and i have got mixed up with numbers at moment i am running 2.3.4 but maybe i was running 2.2.2 before, it was definat 2.2 so if .4 is not heard of then i will go with .2 but looking in that thread there is no orange UK version do you know how i get this or is there a diffrent one/version i could use, and is the version information able to be pulld from my nandroid backup.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126907 <-- this version sais it is UK and doesnt mention Carrier specific so guess this is the one to use for me, So to confirm do i follow the same set of instructions as before from here " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135901 " but change "shadow4.5.1-134nandroid" for my own nandroid backup and "shadow4.5.1-134fixed.sbf" for "FixedSBF_3.4.2-177UK.sbf" from this thread " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126907 " or is the Non-Fixed Full sbf better to use.?
thanks again
djc

cloogshizer said:
Just one quick question for you: Have you even tried to SEARCH for an answer prior to posting?
I know that there are some good souls around that will answer your question even if it was answered thousand times before. I, however, won't.
Good luck.
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What an arse

Yeah it is 2.2.2/2.2.1...
I can't reply to that cos like I said I don't know about carrier specific roms and such, so I hope someone else in the know replies. Good luck

Was my flash successful ?

I was using the 3.4.2-164 France ROM and I wanted to get rid of motoblur. Someone advised me to install a custom rom based on nordic.
So I decided to install this custom one (Nordic II edition by iaio72):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040777
So I installed the fixed sbf, deblur 3.4.2_177-005_nordic as specified. I did not do anything else at the moment because something is bothering me. RSD Lite said I successfully installed this fixed SBF (PASSED was written). However, nothing had changed when the phone rebooted. My applications are still here. The phone is still rooted. And the system version number is 34.164.3 Retail FR.
Is this normal? Or did something go wrong?

I've read a similar issue abt defy b4 try wiping n flash again...
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if you flash a fixed sbf, you need to install the correct nandroid backup for it, otherwise system and cdt partitions will not be overwritten (these are the codegroups - cg31 and cg39 - missing from a fixed sbf). and your apps are still there because you didnt do a data wipe before flashing, it is strongly recommended to do it before every flashing. heres a thread you should read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
sent from my cm7 defy...

Thanks for your help.
I am under the impression that if I wipe it now, it will cause trouble. Am I right?
Do you think I can simply follow the rest of the steps for NORDIC II and safely install the NORDIC II recovery ?

my advice would be to start over, wipe, flash, nandroid and the rest.
sent from my cm7 defy...

Thanks. I followed your advice and started from the beginning. It's restoring the custom rom right now.
From what I read in your should-be-stickied thread, it is the CG version which prevents from flashing an older ROM. Is the CG version the same for every Froyo ROM? Or is there a difference between 3.4.2 and 3.4.3 ? (I'd like to install the most up to date official blurless ROM but I'd like to be able to switch back to my country official Froyo)

the cg version is the same for all froyo roms, so you can switch between them the way you want. i'd say try cm7 first, its the best rom ive seen so far!

I'm a bit scared of CM7. Its thread is full of bug and malfunction reports. It the most promising ROM around though and I'm really looking forward to the final product. However, the feedback is too frightening at the moment.
Do you think it is safe to use an asian ROM (not chinese) in europe?

dont know, havent really tried, but afaik everybody has the same hardware (mb525) except china (me525), so you could give it a shot! and im using cm7 nightly 110808, and i havent had any problems with it so far!

That's really tempting but I'll wait to see more positive feedback in the official thread. I know that thousands of people are actually using it and love it but I also know that tons of people just mod their phone for the sake of modding it. And I don't do it just for the thrill of it, really.
I tried the asian official ROM. My phone doesn't detect my provider anymore. I guess it was a long call. I just hope I didn't screw something up. I'm downloading the official CEE deblured. I hope I won't have to come back here with a bricked phone.

the asian rom probably uses a different baseband, download defy baseband switcher, and choose the correct baseband, this should solve the problem! The CEE version is also really good, my fathers using it, no bugs so far. on more thing: if you try cm7, and you dont like it, you can always return to stock froyo, you wont lose the downgradeability! so you should definitely give it a shot!

I installed CEE, motoblur is gone and everything works out of the box. I know there are still tons of apps slowing my phone down but I'm done looking for trouble today. I'll keep an eye on CM7, see if they sort things out.
Thanks for the help.

[Q] Regular Flasher but noob to Deft - Help Needed

Can anyone give me some pointers please ?
My kids have had Defys (green lense) since last christmas. Rooted them straight away but have never tried to flash them.
So ... rooted ... green lense .... running 2.1 (!) .....
Looking to flash them a gingerbread ROM. now ive done this loads on my HTC Desire and Asus Transformer so im ok with the principle ... but loads of the ROMs for the Defy are suggesting other methods rather than flash the zip via CWM. Some are saying I need to go to Froyo first ?!
Can anyone recommend an easy (stable ish) Gingerbread ROM to flash from the current state of these Defys ??
Cheers.

cm7 2.3.5 very stable and fast

pmp326 said:
cm7 2.3.5 very stable and fast
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cheers ... but is that going to mean a flash to froyo first ? is there a preferred froyo rom to flash to first ??

unfortunately yes no way to get around it

the first time i tried i was very confused too. then i found out you don't have to worry about cwm, it's included in the 2nd init. all you need after rooting is to install 2nd init, reboot into recovery and do your tricks from there. it is recommended to wipe data/cache and dalvik cache first before choosing "select zip from sd" to install your preferred rom.
and yes, you need to goto froyo first. gingerbread apparently is not compatiple to eclair from my understanding. the recommended froyo rom to use is Nordic, but i just update to my carrier's official stock froyo (telstra, Australia). worked perfectly.
you can follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065798
there's only one thing missing from that instruction, basebandswitcher. read up about it and make sure you select the correct baseband for your carrier. otherwise you might get weak or no cell signal.
there are better and simpler instructions elsewhere if you google for it, but i guess i'm not supposed to refer anything outside this forum

just as a note, beware that if you flash a froyo sbf, yo will most likely not going to be able to restore it to 2.1 even with another SBF ( it's a thing mototola is doing now, called e-fuse )
just be informed of that.

cheers guys. got so used to flashing Desire and now Transformer it seems like its a whole new world on the Defy

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cheers guys. got so used to flashing Desire and now Transformer it seems like its a whole new world on the Defy
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same here dude, i m from india and i m cuming from galaxy 3 but noob at defy. The most irritating thing here is that u cant go back to previous version or may be it looks messy bcoz i have not done it yet.

Please guys, read this thread before starting threads. All your queries are explained in detail here.
[GUIDE] All-in-One Defy Beginner's guide