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[Q] Quick a stupid question about going back to stock rom

So I now have Clockwork Recovery 3.x and running cm7. I tried straight flashing the latest T-Mobile ROM (1.22?).
It fails right away. I am not really wanting to unroot or turn S-ON. Is it failing because I am using cwr 3.x and need to flash the 2.x recovery? I thought I read somewhere that to flash a Froyo rom 2.x is needed, and 3.x is only for the GB roms...
Also, if and when I do successfully flash the stock rom, will this remove root/s-ff or the other unlocks gfree performed? And the linked thread for flashing the OTA rom instructs to rename to update.zip... is that only for the non-rooted folks?
And lastly, since the clockwork recovery 2.x has been out there for a while, thread info is quite old. Can i simply reflash the 2.x recovery using ROM Manager?
Thanks in advance.

The 1.22 is just an update zip it is not a complete PC10IMG stock rom that is why it is failing, make sure you have s-off via gfree before flashing a stock PC10IMG other wise it will turn your s-on, there is only a 1.19 complete PC10IMG rom out right now, this is pre OTA.
Yes you should be able to use rom manager to reflash older CWM recovery
Sent from my HTC Vision

fermunky said:
So I now have Clockwork Recovery 3.x and running cm7. I tried straight flashing the latest T-Mobile ROM (1.22?).
It fails right away. I am not really wanting to unroot or turn S-ON. Is it failing because I am using cwr 3.x and need to flash the 2.x recovery? I thought I read somewhere that to flash a Froyo rom 2.x is needed, and 3.x is only for the GB roms...
Also, if and when I do successfully flash the stock rom, will this remove root/s-ff or the other unlocks gfree performed? And the linked thread for flashing the OTA rom instructs to rename to update.zip... is that only for the non-rooted folks?
And lastly, since the clockwork recovery 2.x has been out there for a while, thread info is quite old. Can i simply reflash the 2.x recovery using ROM Manager?
Thanks in advance.
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Ill try to help a fellow tampa area guy out
the stock rom your trying to flash isnt going to work with CWM 3.XX your need to replace it with 2.XX. flashing a stock rom will not remove root or s-off.
when i go back and forth using CWM from 3.xx to 2.xx i follow these directions... there super easy... and i have never had a problem with it.
1. Install clockworkmod from market.
2. Flash Clockworkmod recovery from Rom Manager.
3. Navigate to clockworkmod/download/koush.tandtgaming.com/recoveries (or where ever your recovery was downloaded to. This can be done in File Manager, Astro, or Androzip.
4. Mine was "recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.3-vision.img". Rename it to "recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.3-visionXXX.img" or something obviously different.
5. Download clockworkmod 3.0 from hereish:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893933
6. Move your recovery.img to clockworkmod/download/koush.tandtgaming.com/recoveries and name it recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.3-vision.img
7. Go into ROM Manager and Flash Clockworkmod recovery, it will say its still 2.5.1.3 when your done. Reboot into recovery and you'll be welcomed by a new orange 3.0
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of course you can just reverse these directions to go back to 2.xx...
you shouldnt have to change the stock rom name to "update.zip" just flash the zip like you would any other rom through CWM...

Thanks WarBird! I think I'll just flash the recovery images using flash_image. Can you confirm what joemn said though? If I want to flash the stock ROM, do I need both the PC whatever and the ota?
Also
make sure you have s-off via gfree before flashing a stock PC10IMG other wise it will turn your s-on
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This doesn't make sense. Based on this, you're saying that if I have s-on, flashing pc10img will... turn s-on...?

fermunky said:
Thanks WarBird! I think I'll just flash the recovery images using flash_image. Can you confirm what joemn said though? If I want to flash the stock ROM, do I need both the PC whatever and the ota?
Also
This doesn't make sense. Based on this, you're saying that if I have s-on, flashing pc10img will... turn s-on...?
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You are misunderstanding me, what I am saying is if you rooted via the old method and don't have radio s-off via gfree flashing a stock PC10IMG will turn your s back on, and what I told you about the 1.22 update zip is correct.
Sent from my HTC Vision

Ah I see. Since I was late to the G2 game, I did use gfree to get s-off as mentioned in my op. Thanks!

[Q] Why is my clockworkmod reverting to 2.5?

Everytime I flash the the new zip version (3.0.0.5) and then reboot, it reverts back to the old version.
Thanks!
Device: HTC Desire (S-On)
ROM: Gingervillain 2.1
Radio: 32.54.00.32U_5.14.05.17
RIL: HTC-RIL 2.2.0131HM

How are you flashing?

Off thou flash it through recovery your just fake flashing it. You need to actually flash it through fastboot but you need S-Off. There is a way to do it without fastboot. Just Google it. You use the terminals emulator instead. No idea if it works though
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as meaple has said, its only a fake flash, so it doesnt actually flash it.
i couldnt get it to work through the terminal method either due to protections (s-on) but i have now s-off, so it let me flash via fastboot first time

Can I do it with unrevoked or do I have to s-off? (assuming i won't make it with the terminal)

sushi30 said:
Can I do it with unrevoked or do I have to s-off? (assuming i won't make it with the terminal)
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I've never been s-off and I flashed it successfully during rooting with unrevoked.
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yes you can do it with unrevoked, but you would have to unroot first, and then go unrevoked with custom recovery

hi, i have the same problem, but i am s-off
i tryed to flash via android flasher, fastboot, an via recovery with the .zip file.
everytime the same Oo

Are you sure your S-OFF?
Because then it should work!

derfrost said:
hi, i have the same problem, but i am s-off
i tryed to flash via android flasher, fastboot, an via recovery with the .zip file.
everytime the same Oo
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Zip is not what you need. You need to get an img file of the recovery you want to flash. You can then do that via Fastboot or Android Flasher etc. Flashing the zip from wherever is still just fake flashing.

dzumagos said:
yes you can do it with unrevoked, but you would have to unroot first, and then go unrevoked with custom recovery
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No. you don't have to un root. You can flash unrevoked on a rooted device
If you are s on, use unrevoked. Else use the following from fast boot:
fastboot flash recovery cwm_.img
Swyped with my Starburst based Desire. Please ignore any typos or grammos.

S-Off but on 6.16hboot w/o root access?

okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.

First download and flash amon RA FNMA thru bootloader. In that recovery you can flash superuser and binaries. There is an option for it. U are already s-off so you r almost there.
Support TrevE !!

Hey,
Did you install a recovery when you turned s-off? I had it happen once when switching roms that something must have went wrong between the rom and super user and I had to run recovery to get it back to a previous version of super user in order for it to work and be able to manage root, even though I already had s-off.
and if you didnt flash the recovery then:
defiantly listen to the post before me, go flash the amon recovery!
Good luck let us know how you do!

Your right steve i didnt flash a recovery but because i thought i could do it in my recovery after the ruu install but it turns out that the ruu must have taken it off because i have never really use ruu just zips so is there a clockworkmod file that i can change use in the bootloader flash update method?
Where can i find that other recovery program 2nd poster?

grabbed that recovery here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
then usb toggle through recovery to get the su flashed and good to go.
thank you

actually no bueno!! su app still wont update says root access failed when i try to update it and also busy box not installed and also i dl an app to check root access and it says root is not on device so what i have is a supersonic device with s-off and custom recovery working and also was able to flas su through recovery yet i still get messages from apps saying device is not rooted??? I guess i spoke to soon.
Im just going to try and flash a custom rom from recovery and hopefully the system files will load correctly i will do a nand back up for this one first of course.. ill be back.

i used energys newest release and holy kentucky durby batman it works my system files are back to root access.Maybe has to do with something then from the stock ruu bacause i went to the bootloader after putting energy back on and it says hb6.16.1002 which is what i got with the stock ruu i used, and s-off still and root access available. awsome.

popasmurfn23 said:
okay so i updated to the new rom by ruu method and i was already rooted when i did it. So here is the deal now, im trying to use root required apps and its telling me im not rooted the su binary is not installed or it is in the wrong directory so i click okay and i launch my phone into bootloader mode and it shows revolutionary s-off hb6.16.00 and i am not able to get into recovery mode. So am i really not rooted? Did the update only make ir look like my s is off?
what i want to do? I want to be on s-off and rooted for reals instead of fakey.
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Keep in mind that having S-OFF and having root access are two different things even though they are usually together: S-OFF allows you to flash whatever you want on to the phone while having root access means that you have access to basically every aspect of the phone (application-wise) on that specific ROM. For example, it is possible to flash stock (which has no root access) and keep S-OFF which will allow you to flash anything else whenever.

When flashing the RUU it overwrites the custom recovery ( Ra - TWRP ) and also removes the ability for Superuser to do its job. So you broke your " root " .
I don't know if it will work in your case but try to re-run whatever method you used to gain root access in the first place. See if you can find a PC36IMG.zip that is already rooted. and then a PC36IMG.zip of a recovery.
You can flash both by booting into the bootloader. Remember to remove / delete the first ( rooted rom ) image from the SD card before you run the recovery PC36IMG.zip.
Man I hope that all made sense !

hboot 6.16/s-off revolutionary/stock recovery/no root
I had the same issue. hboot 6.16 revolutionary s-off but i was not rooted and on the stock recovery. i thought i was a goner because no pc36img i downloaded would flash in bootloader and ruu's wouldn't flash. I just recently started revolutionary and when i plugged my phone in revolutionary said 'you are already s-off, do you want to flash revolutionary clockwork recovery?' Once I hit Y (yes) it flashed the recovery and i was rooted again. this took a whole lot of guessing and checking so hopefully this helps someone

Flashing recovery with Revolutionary hboot and S-off (NO ROOT)? [SOLVED]

Hi.
While back I ran Revolutionary tool to S-off and root + CWM recovery.
Recently I ran official 2.3 RUU and used stock ROM. Now I want to try ICS, but I don't have CWM anymore. Revolutionary hboot and S-off is still ok. Tried running Revolutionary tool again, but it says I'm already S-off and tries to install CWM, but fails. Tried to install CWM manually through fastboot, but it hangs on sending file. I can still see the device with "fastboot devices".
Since I used a RUU, I don't have root access anymore.
Any idea on how to flash CWM?

IF u are still s-off u can flash a new recovery, click 4ext recovery on my sig, download and install the 4ext recovery updater app then flash recovery. to get root just flash superuser zip file
Sent from my HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
IF u are still s-off u can flash a new recovery, click 4ext recovery on my sig, download and install the 4ext recovery updater app then flash recovery. to get root just flash superuser zip file
Sent from my HTC Desire
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The 4EXT recovery updater app says it requres root access to function. But it don't have root

install superuser
Sent from my HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
install superuser
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How can that help me, when I don't have root access? The superuser apk itself does no good without root access. The 4EXT app need busybox, and busybox needs root.
This is the situation:
I want a custom recovery. But for that, I need root. And to get root, I need a custom recovery. It is an evil circle! But since I have Revolutionary hboot and S-OFF, there must be some way I can get a custom recovery.

Kresstian said:
How can that help me, when I don't have root access? The superuser apk itself does no good without root access. The 4EXT app need busybox, and busybox needs root.
This is the situation:
I want a custom recovery. But for that, I need root. And to get root, I need a custom recovery. It is an evil circle! But since I have Revolutionary hboot and S-OFF, there must be some way I can get a custom recovery.
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The first step:
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager/
Download recovery image and flash it via fastboot, or using some flasher.
Then like you did before flash Superuser .zip:
http://androidsu.com/superuser/
After that you'll have root access and you can flash 4ext recovery as well.

nlooooo said:
The first step:
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager/
Download recovery image and flash it via fastboot, or using some flasher.
Then like you did before flash Superuser .zip:
http://androidsu.com/superuser/
After that you'll have root access and you can flash 4ext recovery as well.
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I quote myself from my initial post:
"Tried to install CWM manually through fastboot, but it hangs on sending file. I can still see the device with "fastboot devices"."
So that don't work for me, sorry. Seems I can't write to recovery partition. Didn't work with the Revolutionary tool either. The only thing I can think of, that could work, is if the Revolutionary tool could see the device as untouched by the tool, and start the process from the beginning.

Did you try with erase recovery command, and then flash recovery?
If that doesn't work, 2.3 RUU and start from scratch.

nlooooo said:
Did you try with erase recovery command, and then flash recovery?
If that doesn't work, 2.3 RUU and start from scratch.
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Seems to hang on erase command too. Screenshot:
I'll try to do another RUU.

I managed to flash CWM! Just had to change computers. Weird, since my Windows is fairly fresh and had all the right drivers.

[Q] Can't flash recovery with ADB, 'waiting for device'

My Desire was rooted before with a custom ROM. I've flashed back the original firmware, therefore the root was gone.
I followed the tutorial at this thread but I get stuck when I want to boot into recovery. The standard holding power and volume down procedure didn't work so I used ADB to boot into recovery. My device rebooted, but I get the red triangle and after that the 'Can't open /cache/recovery/command' error. I found out this means that the recovery isn't proparly installed.
When I use ADB to flash clockworkmod recovery Ithe message '< waiting for device >' remain standing. My Desire is in the HTC Sync modus, I see My HTC in windows device manager.
What is the next step to take? I've bricked an tablet before so I want to do the right thing.

Are you s-off? Also you use fastboot to flash the recovery, not adb.

chromium96 said:
Are you s-off? Also you use fastboot to flash the recovery, not adb.
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Good point, I was forgotten all about s-off and on, it was a long time ago that I rooted my Desire.
I think I am not, beacause flashing the ROM of HTC also gives me a non-rooted phone. I'll check it this evening. Is using the tool from htcdev.com/bootloader the best way to become s-off?

musicfreak said:
Good point, I was forgotten all about s-off and on, it was a long time ago that I rooted my Desire.
I think I am not, beacause flashing the ROM of HTC also gives me a non-rooted phone. I'll check it this evening. Is using the tool from htcdev.com/bootloader the best way to become s-off?
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No that will unlock your bootloader, not give you s off. Use revolutionary.

I found out I'm s-off, after I flashed clockworkmod recovery I used unrevoked to root. The rooting didn't succeed, I get the message 'failed to get root. Is your firmware to new?
I was on RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release, I have flashed an older stock ROM from the list on this page (1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984), and will try it again.
I'll let you know what the results are.

musicfreak said:
I found out I'm s-off, after I flashed clockworkmod recovery I used unrevoked to root. The rooting didn't succeed, I get the message 'failed to get root. Is your firmware to new?
I was on RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release, I have flashed an older stock ROM from the list on this page (1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984), and will try it again.
I'll let you know what the results are.
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After you flashed recovery, there was no need to use unrevoked. All you had to do was boot into recovery and flash superuser.zip file. That would have rooted your existing rom.
However, what is your ultimate aim? If you want a ROM, you can simply flash the optimal hboot for the ROM (optional but recommended), boot into recovery, full wipe and flash the rom. The ROM will already be pre-rooted.

musicfreak said:
I found out I'm s-off, after I flashed clockworkmod recovery I used unrevoked to root. The rooting didn't succeed, I get the message 'failed to get root. Is your firmware to new?
I was on RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release, I have flashed an older stock ROM from the list on this page (1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984), and will try it again.
I'll let you know what the results are.
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Don't use unrevoked. just flash the super su zip using cwm.

eddiehk6 said:
However, what is your ultimate aim? If you want a ROM, you can simply flash the optimal hboot for the ROM (optional but recommended), boot into recovery, full wipe and flash the rom. The ROM will already be pre-rooted.
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You're completly right, I was somewhatconfused, it has been a while since I last flashed a ROM, I was to much happy with Oxy ZM. :silly:
Everything is ok now, I've flashed succesfully. Thanks.