Yes, for those of us updating to the latest version of the beta Mango, they told us over and over again to backup your backup. Well, make sure you do. When you uninstall the current zune client (to reinstall the new version, as instructed) it cleans out the folder that contains your backup.
I just kept the zune 4.8 beta installed.. but I made multiple backups anyway just to be safe
Where is the backup kept?
C:\Users\YOU \AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update
If the worst case scenario happens and you lose all your backups, couldn't someone just reset their NoDo phone to stock, make a backup on the way to Mango, and then just share that backup with those that have their same device? Is a backup specific to a serial number or something?
I believe the backup is tied to the device. You'd need to flash back to a stock ROM.
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If the worst case scenario happens and you lose all your backups, couldn't someone just reset their NoDo phone to stock, make a backup on the way to Mango, and then just share that backup with those that have their same device? Is a backup specific to a serial number or something?
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yes, backups are coded to a single phone and encrypted, so you can not use another phone's backup files.
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I will borrow this thread...
Can I move a backup from one computer to another?
I just updated my phone at work and want my backup at home.
(not mango or developer-related, official update)
nizzon said:
I will borrow this thread...
Can I move a backup from one computer to another?
I just updated my phone at work and want my backup at home.
(not mango or developer-related, official update)
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I would think so, I don't it's locked to 1 device, but don't think it matter what PC it's on. I have uninstalled & re-installed Zune multiple times on my PC & my back-up has always worked. Granted it's the same PC, but just uninstalling & re-installing Zune could cause a conflict if that were the case.
So I backed up my original backup, and now I have another backup in my update folder which I can only assume is the backup from when I went from Mango beta to beta2. I assume I can just scrap that backup and copy my old backup back in when it's time to go to Mango RTM?
Isn't it enough to Backup the File in C:\PreMangoState?
Push.
Could you please answer my question?
for people just to copy and paste...
%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update
Your backup from Zune is stored here, Not in "C:\PreMangoState" (that was done by some script that is floading around, it should be 1gb+ in size)
When you change Zune versions, it tends to overwrite this folder so when you make your backup, BACK IT UP!
Happend to me once, thank god I had an issue with my phone and have insurance !
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for people just to copy and paste...
%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update
Your backup from Zune is stored here, Not in "C:\PreMangoState" (that was done by some script that is floading around, it should be 1gb+ in size)
When you change Zune versions, it tends to overwrite this folder so when you make your backup, BACK IT UP!
Happend to me once, thank god I had an issue with my phone and have insurance !
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Then I will get in double trouble (MANGOed my OMNIA 7 and my girlfriends HTC HD7)
In only have a backup of the PRE MANGO STATE Folder.
I did not backup my backup from ZUNE folder cause there was no word of that on any Site I read.
Example:
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/get_the_mango_update_now._without_being_a_developer.-06-30-11
(this was the method I used)
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/weve-updated-to-windows-phone-mango-so-can-you
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Then I will get in double trouble (MANGOed my OMNIA 7 and my girlfriends HTC HD7)
In only have a backup of the PRE MANGO STATE Folder.
I did not backup my backup from ZUNE folder cause there was no word of that on any Site I read.
Example:
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/get_the_mango_update_now._without_being_a_developer.-06-30-11
(this was the method I used)
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/weve-updated-to-windows-phone-mango-so-can-you
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Pre-mango state might have it, but, the Microsoft way is in that folder. Check the folder size, if it's over a few gb, then you should be ok (WP7 with nothing install in it, is about 440mb as backup (I did a clean backup)).
I did that windowsphonehacker thing when I did it and my Premangostate was like 5kb, a xml file and the real files were all stored in the
%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update
Good luck... If your missing it, just go to 7720 and prey they allow upgrades from that...or break it and do an insurance replacement
DavidDC:
You're probably ok as long as the file size is appropriately large. The cremangostate files should be a backup of the files created by Zune in the above mentioned "windows phone update" folder.
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Hey All.
With all the great roms out of late it seems all i am doing is flashing my poor little JasJam.
The only anoying thing about it is that i can't seem to see any way to restore stuff like game and program save states.
Just as an example Pocket Informate losses all its contact photo links and you have to go back and relink them all. Another is a game call Tennis Addict where I can't seem to get it to go back to a previous save state.
I have even tried taking a copy of the directory of the game before the flash, then reinstalling it and copying the directory over the top and still no luck.
Is there a seperate place on the phone that this info is stored in.
Or is there a restore these programs after Flashing.
Cheers and Beers.
The only restoring I have been able to do is the entire restore. You just have to make sure you keep track of what backups go to what ROMS. You cant restore an LVSW backup onto a Black ROM. You flash the ROM to what OS it belongs to and then restore the backup.
Nice thought...I haven't ever heard of an app like that for Windows Mobile platform, but I used them for my old razr, slvr, and v3i back in the day...
Try backing up pim.vol and pocketinformant.vol
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Try backing up pim.vol and pocketinformant.vol
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Where are these files located? I'm working on an application to solve these problems for myself and just uploaded the early beta here...
Settings Savior v0.1
All it does so far is backup and restore registry settings, but files are my next thought. Then possible assisting with application installs.
Thanks,
Rob
Yea i didn't think there was any magic fix for this.
I just had having to start things all over again.
Especially when you have spent hours playing one game.
Cheers
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Where are these files located? I'm working on an application to solve these problems for myself and just uploaded the early beta here...
Settings Savior v0.1
All it does so far is backup and restore registry settings, but files are my next thought. Then possible assisting with application installs.
Thanks,
Rob
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Good idea Let me know how it goes.
I've had good luck with Sprite Software's SpriteBackup. If you do a full backup, do a hard-reset, then run a special program, it will snapshot the "default" state of your phone. Flash the new ROM, and run the restore program (from SD) -- it won't try to restore anything from the old rom onto the new ROM, but it will restore your programs and almost all settings. Check the FAQ on their site, and carefully read and follow the instructions exactly.
Make absolutely sure you have encryption turned OFF before you do the backup, or your backup file will be encrypted -- and your hard reset will blow the key away (and you won't be able to restore!).
I wouldn't try this between different ROMs, like LVSW->Black/etc... but I've had great results from Black 1.0 -> Black 2.0 -> Black 2.5 -> Black 3.
Oh -- make sure you delete your ActiveSync relationships (delete each component separately so it removes all 'synced' contacts, emails, etc, then delete the server), and delete any IMAP and POP3 email accounts BEFORE you do the backup. If you're using IMAP or Exchange, the phone will repull the info from the servers when you restore (just recreate your mail accounts).. if you're using POP3.. well... get your ISP to support IMAP - you'll be happier with it.
I just updated to Froyo (Fresh 3.1.0.1), and I made several Titanium Backups prior. When I created a backup in the past, I would copy and paste the TitaniumBackup folder from the sdcard to my desktop just in case anything ever happened to my phone.
After updating to Froyo, I went to reload all my data, but Titanium failed to recognize the backup after I cut and paste it from my desktop to my sdcard.
I'm not so much worried about the apps as I am about the SMS and what not. How can I get Titanium to recognize the backup?
Thanks for your help!
did you mvoe the back up before you installed titanium? i have moved it after a few times (as i back up mine as well) and have run into this problem. I ussually just uninstalled and reinstalled titanuim once the folder was backa nd it worked fine.
as a note if your back up is from a 2.1 rom. make sure to go through the list when you tell it to restore all and uncheck 2.1 specific system components (ie checkinService_update 2.1, googleTalkserive_update 2.1) this reduces problems as well
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did you mvoe the back up before you installed titanium? i have moved it after a few times (as i back up mine as well) and have run into this problem. I ussually just uninstalled and reinstalled titanuim once the folder was backa nd it worked fine.
as a note if your back up is from a 2.1 rom. make sure to go through the list when you tell it to restore all and uncheck 2.1 specific system components (ie checkinService_update 2.1, googleTalkserive_update 2.1) this reduces problems as well
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That worked. Cheers, mate!
And I appreciate the heads up on the system components!
Ah, just noticed one thing didn't work -- perhaps I deleted it from the backup file.
Which files do I need to restore to retrieve my SMS?
what application do you use for SMS? i believe it stores it under "accounts" it has a tiback up icon I could be wrong cant test it for sure. Normally mine updates itself to current after getting a message or 2 (i have google sync on) so i think something is synced elewhere as well maybe some one else knows a little more about this. Glad you at least got some of it restored.
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what application do you use for SMS? i believe it stores it under "accounts" it has a tiback up icon I could be wrong cant test it for sure. Normally mine updates itself to current after getting a message or 2 (i have google sync on) so i think something is synced elewhere as well maybe some one else knows a little more about this. Glad you at least got some of it restored.
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I'm using Handcent, but I don't think it matters because the text messages use to be viewable in the HTC client and all third party apps.
I've got some apps that i need in android, so when i test a new build i have to install them all again.
So i'm wondering if there is a way/script that is installing the apps automatically when the build is making a new data.img?
Is there a way to make it myself? It works the same as linux on the pc?
I know you can have multiple build on your sd card, but it won't fit on my sd card. That's because i have a 2gb card and already 1,8gb is in use(android and maps for winmo tomtom)
Thanks in advance.
Well if you have the actual APK, just drop it in the AndroidApps folder - it'll get installed automatically.
Otherwise, Titanium Backup FTW. The free version is still very powerful, but application restoring is kinda painful on the free version - the paid-for version has a '0-click' batch restore, and I've heard it's very fast. I keep considering buying the app, I probably should
I have not been able to find out how to restore backed up programs using Titanium Backup. I did my backups for the programs that I wanted, deleted my data.img so I could try a new build, and when it rebooted Titanium Backup was not there. I reinstalled Titanium Backup thinking it would find the backed up files again, but apparently it stores the backups in the data.img file. I am not sure if this happens to be an issue that I have encountered solely or not, but it kinda aggravated me that it didn't do what it was supposed to do.
Any advice or knowledge of what I may have done wrong?
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I have not been able to find out how to restore backed up programs using Titanium Backup. I did my backups for the programs that I wanted, deleted my data.img so I could try a new build, and when it rebooted Titanium Backup was not there. I reinstalled Titanium Backup thinking it would find the backed up files again, but apparently it stores the backups in the data.img file. I am not sure if this happens to be an issue that I have encountered solely or not, but it kinda aggravated me that it didn't do what it was supposed to do.
Any advice or knowledge of what I may have done wrong?
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It stores the backups on the root of the sdcard in the folder TitaniumBackup. I have version 2.9.4 installed.
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It stores the backups on the root of the sdcard in the folder TitaniumBackup. I have version 2.9.4 installed.
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I checked that directory after I performed my backups, and the files were there, but when I reinstalled the app after wiping the data.img, the directory was empty. Apparently I must have needed to rename the directory prior to reinstalling Titanium Backup or something.
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I checked that directory after I performed my backups, and the files were there, but when I reinstalled the app after wiping the data.img, the directory was empty. Apparently I must have needed to rename the directory prior to reinstalling Titanium Backup or something.
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Probably when you where installing TB again, it emptied the folder.
Sounds likely. I will have to test that theory later on when I go to try a new build, if I remember to do so.
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HI
I'm facing follwing isssue.
I'm the owner of DVP,
I have last backup from August 2011
few weeks ago my phone was broken,
Dell repleaced this with a new one...
how to restore the backup on this new DELL ?
i tried simply copying backup to the restore point but no luck ...
zune can see the restore point but is unable to restore the data...
I have very important SMS messages in the backup which I need...
is there the option to load it or maybe the option to open the backup on PC ?
P
You can't restore a previous backup to a new phone; you can only restore it to the same hardware you backed up.
If you lose your phone or suffer hardware failure, all your SMS and app save data is gone; sorry. Crazily, device backup is a feature Microsoft believes isn't needed in WP7; if you diagree and feel your data is important to you, vote for the feature at WP7 User voice.
popi2003 said:
HI
I'm facing follwing isssue.
I'm the owner of DVP,
I have last backup from August 2011
few weeks ago my phone was broken,
Dell repleaced this with a new one...
how to restore the backup on this new DELL ?
i tried simply copying backup to the restore point but no luck ...
zune can see the restore point but is unable to restore the data...
I have very important SMS messages in the backup which I need...
is there the option to load it or maybe the option to open the backup on PC ?
P
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Unfortunately, if you performed the backup via Zune, the files are linked to the old device id... If I remember well, I read that they're encripted using this value,
so you can't restore them into another device...
Looking at what you wrote, I don't think you made a backup of your sms with the application you can find in this forum, and then saved them using something like WPV app data backup. In this last case you get back your sms...
Those Acer phone are usually pretty good, wanted to buy one of these too, but decided to go with another model instead. I think it's a very good buy at that price!
Hi
So I don't really mind if I have to hook it up to the computer or anything, I just want a really complete backup solution. It should backup pretty much everything I have on my SD Card.
I already have Titanium Backup Pro and upuntil now I thought it was complete, but after completely wiping my SD Card in an attempt to install the latest RUU (which didn't work btw, but that's off topic...) and copying my Titanium Backup-stuff from a computer backup I realized it's really really incomplete. To be honest I'm not at all sure what it even is backing up... maybe my Titanium is just set wrong?
So what happened is this... like I said my SD Card was wiped but I had previously backed up Titanium to my Dropbox and pushed the whole folder to my phone after the wipe. However none of my settings for Nova Launcher were saved. My Nova settings back up was not saved. Passwords for Google, Facebook, Dropbox etc were not saved. Data from Swiftkey was not saved. Kakao Talk and SMS messaging history was not saved.
Like I said, I'm not sure what actually was saved...
I don't really mind, maybe even prefer, if I could use my computer to store these backups instead of the SD since I don't always have a lot of space left on my device.
(I think I got the filesystem thing and updating to the latest RUU didn't work - that's what landed me in this situation to begin with by the way.)
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Hi
So I don't really mind if I have to hook it up to the computer or anything, I just want a really complete backup solution. It should backup pretty much everything I have on my SD Card.
I already have Titanium Backup Pro and upuntil now I thought it was complete, but after completely wiping my SD Card in an attempt to install the latest RUU (which didn't work btw, but that's off topic...) and copying my Titanium Backup-stuff from a computer backup I realized it's really really incomplete. To be honest I'm not at all sure what it even is backing up... maybe my Titanium is just set wrong?
So what happened is this... like I said my SD Card was wiped but I had previously backed up Titanium to my Dropbox and pushed the whole folder to my phone after the wipe. However none of my settings for Nova Launcher were saved. My Nova settings back up was not saved. Passwords for Google, Facebook, Dropbox etc were not saved. Data from Swiftkey was not saved. Kakao Talk and SMS messaging history was not saved.
Like I said, I'm not sure what actually was saved...
I don't really mind, maybe even prefer, if I could use my computer to store these backups instead of the SD since I don't always have a lot of space left on my device.
(I think I got the filesystem thing and updating to the latest RUU didn't work - that's what landed me in this situation to begin with by the way.)
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Even if you pushed the whole folder back to your phone...did you actually restore the app/data using Titanium afterwards? Pushing the back-up folder back to your phone just means Titanium can access it. It doesn't restore everything unless you actually do so using Titanium.
Otherwise, making a nandroid backup using CWM recovery takes a perfect snapshot of your phone at that moment. So your texts will all be in place, passwords, settings etc. will all be as they are now. Of course, you can't really flash your nandroid over a new ROM just to restore app data, but it allows you to revert your phone back to its original state before flashing (like in your above scenario where you had a failed RUU installation)
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Even if you pushed the whole folder back to your phone...did you actually restore the app/data using Titanium afterwards? Pushing the back-up folder back to your phone just means Titanium can access it. It doesn't restore everything unless you actually do so using Titanium.
Otherwise, making a nandroid backup using CWM recovery takes a perfect snapshot of your phone at that moment. So your texts will all be in place, passwords, settings etc. will all be as they are now. Of course, you can't really flash your nandroid over a new ROM just to restore app data, but it allows you to revert your phone back to its original state before flashing (like in your above scenario where you had a failed RUU installation)
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
Yes I did restore. When I backup I do the full backup thingie in batch operations and when I restore I do the restore apps and system data + restore app data.
Yeah, I was thinking of Nandroid too but doesn't that just do non-SD card? I'm very new to Android but isn't most of the stuff I actually care about (app data and such) on the SD?
titanium doesn't restore system bits by default and google/facebook/dropbox is integrated into the OS.
You CAN force it to I believe but it WILL break things if you change your ROM at all.
IN my mind a small issue doesn't take long to sign back into those services as long as all your apps and data is intact thats all good.
If you have the filesystem thing I STRONGLY SUGGEST you up to 1.29.xyz.11 before you do any more custom rom/CWM work. Even relock/RUU, OTA then unlock and go. I had very bad experiences with this bug.
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titanium doesn't restore system bits by default and google/facebook/dropbox is integrated into the OS.
You CAN force it to I believe but it WILL break things if you change your ROM at all.
IN my mind a small issue doesn't take long to sign back into those services as long as all your apps and data is intact thats all good.
If you have the filesystem thing I STRONGLY SUGGEST you up to 1.29.xyz.11 before you do any more custom rom/CWM work. Even relock/RUU, OTA then unlock and go. I had very bad experiences with this bug.
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Hi. Thanks for your reply.
I totally would upgrade to the RUU if HTC there wasn't this small issue of the RUU not working. I live and bought my phone in Sweden and my CID confirms it's a european phone - however when I run the RUU it formats the phone and transfers about half the ROM then setup says "nope, wrong ROM." and leaves me with a dysfunctional OS. I'm also on a Mac so I have to run Windows 7 in VM Ware Fusion and starting that stupid RUU-file and everything takes AGES. I've already spent the better part of a day and night trying to get it to work and if I'm opening that RUU one more time with VM Ware if it doesn't work I think I'm gonna hang myself. So very very very sick and tired of that bullcrap. So... for now I'm either waiting for access to a Windows computer so I can try all of the RUUs and see if my phone's transmutated into the wrong region OR I'm awaiting an S-OFF mod so I don't need to use RUU.
As for the logins and such, it's not only google/facebook/dropbox. It's also Twitter, Evernote, Swiftkey and well... pretty much everything. Chrome seems to be logged in. AnkiDroid didn't get to save it's data (which luckily is saved in the cloud... and backed up manually).
Google Music offline data would be nice to keep to since it's pretty slow to sync. Plus I have to look-up what I actually want everytime I reflash.
Also, if I'm only flashing an upgrade to my current ROM must I really enter all the passwords again anyway?
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Hi. Thanks for your reply.
I totally would upgrade to the RUU if HTC there wasn't this small issue of the RUU not working. I live and bought my phone in Sweden and my CID confirms it's a european phone - however when I run the RUU it formats the phone and transfers about half the ROM then setup says "nope, wrong ROM." and leaves me with a dysfunctional OS. I'm also on a Mac so I have to run Windows 7 in VM Ware Fusion and starting that stupid RUU-file and everything takes AGES. I've already spent the better part of a day and night trying to get it to work and if I'm opening that RUU one more time with VM Ware if it doesn't work I think I'm gonna hang myself. So very very very sick and tired of that bullcrap. So... for now I'm either waiting for access to a Windows computer so I can try all of the RUUs and see if my phone's transmutated into the wrong region OR I'm awaiting an S-OFF mod so I don't need to use RUU.
As for the logins and such, it's not only google/facebook/dropbox. It's also Twitter, Evernote, Swiftkey and well... pretty much everything. Chrome seems to be logged in. AnkiDroid didn't get to save it's data (which luckily is saved in the cloud... and backed up manually).
Google Music offline data would be nice to keep to since it's pretty slow to sync. Plus I have to look-up what I actually want everytime I reflash.
Also, if I'm only flashing an upgrade to my current ROM must I really enter all the passwords again anyway?
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Not sure if its not vmware thats breaking your RUU..... you can check your CID in fastboot and verify, if its supposed to work then its supposed to work, its vmware breaking it.
Hey at least you can flash a ROM right? 10 minutes entering passwords again is a lot less problems than a lot of people have encountered (including me, I got a corrupted super laggy file system IO after CWM and the disappearing SD card space bug hit at once).
As for nandroid, yes it doesn't touch your sd card but otherwise its 1:1 I've always gotten back from a nandroid with everything exactly as it was
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Not sure if its not vmware thats breaking your RUU..... you can check your CID in fastboot and verify, if its supposed to work then its supposed to work, its vmware breaking it.
Hey at least you can flash a ROM right? 10 minutes entering passwords again is a lot less problems than a lot of people have encountered (including me, I got a corrupted super laggy file system IO after CWM and the disappearing SD card space bug hit at once).
As for nandroid, yes it doesn't touch your sd card but otherwise its 1:1 I've always gotten back from a nandroid with everything exactly as it was
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Maybe. But it's very strange that VM Ware would be breaking a RUU isn't it?
Either way it means I need access to a Windows computer, either because VM Ware is breaking or because it's too darn slow. Indeed I have checked my CID in fastboot and it does say euro (well, I don't remember the CID itself but it correlated to euro).
Thanks for all your help. Greatly appreciated.
no probs good luck
edit: are you sure you are unbranded. If you are branded (Carrier handset) you need the carrier's RUU
its not that strange vmware breaks it, you are doing something that requires low level write access via USB.