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Why to change the ROM?

Hello All,
I am using the O2 UK stock ROM for alreadz 2 monthes. now iam wondering if i should try to flash the device with one of the ROMs here.
can anyone tell me if i should do it or not, what is the advantage of flashing a new ROM?
thank you

Mostly to improve performance and stability, also to fix some problems.
All new roms comes with new AKU version, this is something like SP for Windows systems.

before you flash
always read the 1st post or 2 of the rom you are flashing.
all the info you should need is there
this way you won't be back and your next post won't be....
"help i have bricked my diamond"
good luck and have fun!

When you are happy with your phone now, don't flash it.
If you have issues, see if a new rom fixes it.

its all about the speed man!!!
and making it look unique

Flashing always has its small or big issues.
When you don't know what flashing is about anyway, why would he bother?

I first flashed a new ROM with ELFin and the speed was mind-blowing, not to mention the extra free space and RAM. For me, it's a must.
Just make sure enough people have downloaded and commented on its reliability and stability as well as the above (i.e. speed, RAM etc).

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sorrowt said:
Hello All,
I am using the O2 UK stock ROM for alreadz 2 monthes. now iam wondering if i should try to flash the device with one of the ROMs here.
can anyone tell me if i should do it or not, what is the advantage of flashing a new ROM?
thank you
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If you are happy running your stock O2 rom then just keep it that way & maybe just read up on customizing your phone.
Rom flashing on a £400 phone should only really be done if you know what your doing, so if you do decide to flash a custom rom to your phone then you better get busy reading up on the do's & especially the dont's otherwise you could end up with a £400 brick
read the wiki's
read the tuts/info/ posts on cid/ sim/ security stuff.
read read then read again is my advice, because it's amazing the amount of people that brick their phones just by pure ignorance.
For me it's a no brainer I like modding anything & everything nm just phones hehehe
Any's good luck on which ever you choose to do

It it works and you are happy with it don't flash. It really all depends if there is any thing in the new rom that you want.

what do I need to do?

Hi guys
I have a totally stock phone atm and I want to mod the UI. To be honest Im not sure where to start! I want to get a few things running such as the analogue clock and a custom theme. My questions are pretty noobie so please bear with me:
1)DO I need to flash the ROM and what benifits does this give?
2)I have read about there being an old and new manilla. How can I tell which I have and do I need to upgrade if I get a new one?
3)what are the chances of me bricking my phone if I mess with this stuff? (especially the ROM flash)
4)I have experience modding phone UI's but I have never done a smartphone before. Is there anything specific I should know regarding the differences before I start going too in-depth?
any and all advice would be great, cheers

watchinthewheels said:
Hi guys
I have a totally stock phone atm and I want to mod the UI. To be honest Im not sure where to start! I want to get a few things running such as the analogue clock and a custom theme. My questions are pretty noobie so please bear with me:
1)DO I need to flash the ROM and what benifits does this give?
2)I have read about there being an old and new manilla. How can I tell which I have and do I need to upgrade if I get a new one?
3)what are the chances of me bricking my phone if I mess with this stuff? (especially the ROM flash)
4)I have experience modding phone UI's but I have never done a smartphone before. Is there anything specific I should know regarding the differences before I start going too in-depth?
any and all advice would be great, cheers
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If you follow crackwhores guide, you cant go wrong. You wont be sorry if you flash a cooked rom. Flash NRG28's latest Rom, or one of Dutty's or Miri's, just check out the Rom Development Forum and see which one takes your fancy. I have found NRG28's to be best for me, but they all have something to offer, for me, the biggest benefit is the difference in speed, i couldnt believe how much faster my HD was the first time I flashed it. If you get stuck with anything, just ask and someone will be able to help.

watchinthewheels said:
Hi guys
I have a totally stock phone atm and I want to mod the UI. To be honest Im not sure where to start! I want to get a few things running such as the analogue clock and a custom theme. My questions are pretty noobie so please bear with me:
1)DO I need to flash the ROM and what benifits does this give?
2)I have read about there being an old and new manilla. How can I tell which I have and do I need to upgrade if I get a new one?
3)what are the chances of me bricking my phone if I mess with this stuff? (especially the ROM flash)
4)I have experience modding phone UI's but I have never done a smartphone before. Is there anything specific I should know regarding the differences before I start going too in-depth?
any and all advice would be great, cheers
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1. No, there is no NEED to. But a non-exhaustive list of benefits include updated applications, faster response times, less bugs, etc.
2. If you go to the settings tab in TouchFlo and look down at the About section, it tells you what Manila version you have.
3. Most flashing issues are completely recoverable these days. However, there is always that miniscule chance that you muck up your device completely . However, if you follow my guide you really can't go wrong.
4. There are some tutorials on skinning and Manila modding in this forum. I would suggest reading through them!

thanks guys, that's put my mind at rest a bit! Time to get flashing

HTC standard ROM on T-mo TP2 possible?

I just thought about this right now. Can the standard HTC ROM be flashed to the Tmobile TP2? Or would we have to wait for the HSPL? Im pretty sure you can flash other standard ROMs right? [like those in different languages]. So is it possible to flash an HTC ROM to the Tmo version at this point? Maybe this belongs in the ROM development section, sorry if it does, but i think its a general question.
Also, how do you check to see if you have CID unlocked your phone, [using the hardware keys]? i did a search of it, but couldnt find it again.
forgive me if im double posting, i did a search for these questions, but couldnt come up with a definitive answer. Or a clear one, for that matter. So i thought its better to ask yourself.
anyways, thanks for the time and the replies guys.
-josh.

No one? looks like 59 other people are interested.. haha. any answers?

No. I skimmed through your question quickly. I bet it's already been asked like 5 other times.
Right now, the HardSPL for our phone is being developed. Once that's done, we can flash other ROM's. Right now, we're stuck with the T-Mobile ROM. And there's no way to CID unlock yet, either. So, just wait for the HardSPL. That's all we can do. I got a PM going around, I guess they're looking for some native thing...Here's the message...
Don't forget to use the tool provided in this thread! The sooner we find somebody with a Hynix internal memory, the sooner we can have Hard-SPL on our Touch Pro 2's! If you've already done this, please ignore this message.​
Do that if you wanna get the HardSPL going faster. I guess it's just like the lottery, whoever has the lucky device! That's how YOU can contribute to the community. Got it?

You can't because even if it's a stock rom, it's not customized for your device. Even if we ignore slight hardware differences, there's also the case of people with a European unlocked model being unable to install the Asian Rom because it's the "wrong" device.

solsearch said:
You can't because even if it's a stock rom, it's not customized for your device. Even if we ignore slight hardware differences, there's also the case of people with a European unlocked model being unable to install the Asian Rom because it's the "wrong" device.
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You can, it would just have to be modified by the cook, making it a "custom ROM". That will be possible in, I'm guessing, a month, once HardSPL is working on our phones. It'll be way better with custom ROM's, but we gotta just wait.

Oh, I meant you can't right now. Not that it's impossible without the right tools and time enough. But to just download the rom and try to flash it without any extra steps or tricks isn't currently possible.

Hey Guys,
just wanted to tell you, that i am writting this post via my T-mo TP2 which i flashed via Goldcard to original HTC European Firmware.
Everything works perfectly fine!
If byou ned a Goldcard just contact cmonex.
Hopefully helped you
ImmortalShadow

ImmortalShadow said:
Hey Guys,
just wanted to tell you, that i am writting this post via my T-mo TP2 which i flashed via Goldcard to original HTC European Firmware.
Everything works perfectly fine!
If byou ned a Goldcard just contact cmonex.
Hopefully helped you
ImmortalShadow
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Or we can wait for HardSPL, lol. That'll be easier for most, and be less bothersome for the cooks.
But it's good to hear that you got a custom ROM! I hate that T-Mo crap

Yeah, T-mo ROM really sucks...
HTC ROM runs much smoother, consuming less RAM, and allowing me to use icq and skype, which is the biggest plus.
Now my TP2 really is (In my oppinion) the best phone on the market

True, can't wait to flash a chefs rom to get rid of all the bloatware!

Total newcomer wanting to install a new ROM on a straight out of box Orange UK Hero.

Hi guys,
This is my first post so please forgive my ignorance. I have just received a brand new HTC Hero from Orange UK as a replacement for my previous Hero that went faulty.
Anyway, I really want to install the Hero 2.1 ROM. However I have only ever messed around with OS changes when I used to install leaked updates to my BlackBerry.
Can anyone point me in the direction of a comprehensive guide to doing everything I need to do to install Hero 2.1 ROM or explain it to me?
Thank you all for any help that you can offer.

http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/297764/the-how-to-guide/
keep in mind that the 2.1 roms available are not fully functional yet. if you want something stable with everything working as intended go for mcr3.0, but that shouldn't stop you from testing new roms! just a note.

double post

Thanks for the link. I'm a pretty big idiot when it comes to this stuff but I'm always willing to give it a shot.
Is there much difference between MoDaCo 3.0 and the 2.1 ROM? I'm just looking for something that is a bit faster or more up to date than a 1.5 Orange UK OS.

For faster than stock, I would suggest modaco 3.0, since 2.1 will be on the way in the new year, and it isn't quite ready for everyday use yet.
But its up to you. Just don't go installing any rru updates if you want to root or install a custom ROM in future.

check out changelog of each of their final releases..and u'll wats added to them ..and wats still not working

RRU updates?

byakkotai said:
RRU updates?
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if you make that a question you might get an answer.
if you want speed go for modaco. the 2.1 roms tend to lag here and there, and as i said are not suitable for daily use. they work great for an early preview, but that's it.

Ahh OK sorry to keep on asking what are probably inane questions. I'm guessing since nobody has mentioned RRUs with MoCaDo, that they aren't involved.
I'll see how that ROM goes, hoping it uses HTC Sense UI as I really like the look of it but it's not essential.
I think I have to update the Radio for the MoCaDo update.
I'll probably post again if the change doesn't go well or I can't do it LOL
Thanks again guys.

Information about bootloader, bootstrap recovery etc ?

Dear community,
We have our Defy section which is totally awesome. Now it's time to begin the real work here.
I wanted to spend some time with the Defy Android development and wanted to know if we could gather information about the bootloader, kernel and the bootstrap recovery here.
I just want to know how Motorola tries to secure their phones and how we could work around the protection.
Every helpful post is welcome. Let's see if we can beat Motorola and make the Defy one of the best phones around (or is it already?...no doubt is awesome!)
Best regards,
DunkDream

This site should be of some use.
https://www.droid-developers.org/
lots of info about motorola devices and all about the boot processes, hardware ect. Hope this helps.

And see here. Custom recovery is on the way along with custom roms.

I didn't understand if for the defy there is still a bootloader problem to solve or if it's a question to find cookers who have time to make a defy custom rom...Anybody have some fresh news?

Trust me since Handler got his defy you will have a custom recovery and roms. He does good work, just be patient

He does seem confident about it I sure hope to get froyo on this rugged little beast

Damool said:
He does seem confident about it I sure hope to get froyo on this rugged little beast
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Yes, at least for C2DM capability!
I'll buy a beer to Handler when he suceeds!

anyone know where can i find a Tmo defy sbf?

It seems that Handler already started to work with the Motorola Defy.
Hope he realizes that the Defy is such a great phone.
I'm sure that he'll do it...he'll get us a receovery method and custom Roms.
AND he can be sure to get a donation if he succeeds. That's a point of honour.

Hope then good news from Handler...
Anyway this is my very firt android device I know few things about cooking in the android world I cooked some winmo roms and I don't know if there are similarities. Many of you have some experience in this field so I ask you an advice on where I could start to learn the structure of the android roms and the tools to use...

kibiwi said:
Hope then good news from Handler...
Anyway this is my very firt android device I know few things about cooking in the android world I cooked some winmo roms and I don't know if there are similarities. Many of you have some experience in this field so I ask you an advice on where I could start to learn the structure of the android roms and the tools to use...
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This might help: http://twon23.blogspot.com/2010/11/android-for-beginners.html
Just a few links i put together on my blog to help android newbies. Some of it may be a bit basic but it has got some useful stuff there.

kibiwi said:
Hope then good news from Handler...
Anyway this is my very firt android device I know few things about cooking in the android world I cooked some winmo roms and I don't know if there are similarities. Many of you have some experience in this field so I ask you an advice on where I could start to learn the structure of the android roms and the tools to use...
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Thanks I'll have a look at it I am a bit curious to learn more on Android...

I remember doing a TP (test point) helped to flash cracked bootloader on my older Motorola...
Can it apply to our Android device?
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Hi,
i guess no one will do it!
Maybe there is no interesst in cooking own bootloader to kill closed booloader from moto.
Hacking the bootloader will also be easy for hackers (perferct hackers )
But no one do it.

it seems all people with the capacity to hack the bootloader aren't interested in doing it.