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Is the desire always connected ?

Hi,
Coming from an HTC HD1 and HD2, I've just bought my HTC Desire yesterday. And wooow, it's amazing ! Really faster than the HD2 !
It seems that my Desire is always connected to the 3G/EDGE network. How can I see if I'm connected or not ? I've set "enable always on mobile" to OFF, and "Auto Sync" to OFF. But I still see the E icon with grey up and down arrows.
Is there an app to disconnect data after x minutes, if the device is not used ? On windows mobile, I was using WM Long Life to do that trick. I don't know if there is something similar, because I'm very new to Android.
Thanks

Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks toggle to turn it off. Alternatively, you can use the mobile network toggle widget, from HTC, on one of your homescreens.
About turning off the data after x amount of MB - I use 3G Watchdog. Search for it in the market, it's really good, plus comes with a useful homescreen widget etc etc. lol
Hope that helps.

pim said:
I still see the E icon with grey up and down arrows.
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Grey means they're not doing anything. They turn white when transmitting/receiving.

dpk said:
Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks toggle to turn it off. Alternatively, you can use the mobile network toggle widget, from HTC, on one of your homescreens.
About turning off the data after x amount of MB - I use 3G Watchdog. Search for it in the market, it's really good, plus comes with a useful homescreen widget etc etc. lol
Hope that helps.
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Thx for the answer. I went through Settings -> Wireless & Networks and turned off the connection. But this option totally prevents the phone from being connected to the 3G network. When I turn it back ON, then the phone automatically connects to the network.
What I want is the phone being able to connect but not permanently.
For example, I check my mails, the phone connects, retrieves the emails, and when no more data is being downloaded, disconnects after xx seconds.
It would drain less battery than being always connected.
I've searched for watchdog, but it isn't what I'm looking for.

Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks toggle to turn it off. Alternatively, you can use the mobile network toggle widget, from HTC, on on
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Thx for the answer. I went through Settings -> Wireless & Networks and turned off the connection. But this option totally prevents the phone from being connected to the 3G network. When I turn it back ON, then the phone automatically connects to the network.
What I want is the phone being able to connect but not permanently.
For example, I check my mails, the phone connects, retrieves the emails, and when no more data is being downloaded, disconnects after xx seconds.
It would drain less battery than being always connected.
I've searched for watchdog, but it isn't what I'm looking for.
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If its not transmitting data, it does not use any more power then if disconnected. Don't worry about it.
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would highly recommend juice defender. managers disconnection of data at set times to conserve battery.

I have found APNDroid widget to work quite nice. Click to network on, check mail, update everything, then click off. Still not quite what you are looking for, but perhaps a solution. I am currently on 6 month contract in India & the mobile data rates here is ridiculously expensive. 1mb = 40min phone call in price. So it works quite well for the battery drain & cost saving here.

Why use APNdroid when there is a native widget, which does the exact same thing? (add widget, settings, mobile network)
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thanks. Didn't see that far.

KrewCial said:
Why use APNdroid when there is a native widget, which does the exact same thing? (add widget, settings, mobile network)
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thanks, didn't know that
anyway I use apndroid also, because when I click the Htc gadged, the apn connection is estabilished.
Apndroid adds a suffix to the apn name, thus it's impossible to connect (and pay fees ) if I don't want to

[Q] Is there a way to disable data?

I just bought the Defy for my younger sister and was just wondering if there is a way to turn off the data since I only want her on wi-fi. I know there's apps out there like extended control but is there anything I can change in the settings? I did some searching but found nothing on the forum if I missed it can you guys point me the right direction? Thanks a bunch!

When in Europe I use an app called APNdroid from the market. It kills edge & 3G but leaves wifi and voice/text running. If you want to kill EVERYTHING but wifi, hit airplane mode then wifi.

I suppose it depends on your service provider, but if you set up nonsense information in your APN (i.e. it can't find a server) then it won't be able to access 3G data. I've set up 2 APNs on my phone, one to allow and one to turn it 'off'. Works like a charm.
Well, for me, anyhow.

+1 for APN renaming.
Sent from my MB525

Go to market, find this--> APNdroid
Install it & put on desktop.
This will help stop the Defy from using GPRS.
Edmond.

there are dialog in settings that allow to disable all mobile data transfers over gsm/umts networks

Settings > Data Manager > Data Delivery > All mobile Data (untick)

sarge78 said:
Settings > Data Manager > Data Delivery > All mobile Data (untick)
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My T-Mo USA phone does not have that choice.

scrannel said:
My T-Mo USA phone does not have that choice.
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Yeah I looked for that too but didn't find it so I'm just using the app. Thanks for all the help!

You can use the app"Droidwall",you can disable 2G,3G, and use only WIFI

You can try a battery saving app called "juicedefender".
The original function of it is turning off data when the screen is off, but you can use its widget to turn off data completely.

Changing to WiFi only Data?

When I installed my ROM, and on first boot I was given an option for when to use data.
Wifi only, or WiFi and Mobile Networks.
Now, I am going on holiday in a week and wanted to switch it to WiFi only to avoid data roaming charges.
Can anyone help, I cannot find it in the settings.

Settings > wireless and networks > mobile network.
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Obviously I looked there first. There doesn't seem to be a "WiFi Only" option.
If I just deselect Data Roaming, will that essentially do what I want?

Yes, just turn off mobile network and turn on WiFi.
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In the widgets > settings widgets you can choose mobile network and wifi network (as well as gps and bluetooth) screen widgets so you can toggle them on and off.... when not wanting to use mobile data, its good to have those widgets on one of your screens (as the dashboard widgets are usually missing one or another of those 4 essentials)
saves time from going into the settings repeatedly just to turn something on or off.

callum_crouch said:
Yes, just turn off mobile network and turn on WiFi.
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If I turn of mobile network, wont I be unable to make calls or receive texts?

TylerDurdenK said:
If I turn of mobile network, wont I be unable to make calls or receive texts?
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It is stated in the setting that it enable/disable data packet usage over mobile network. It has absolutely nothing to do with your phone call whatsoever. What makes you think that way?
Just kidding. In extreme cases, to prevent data on moblie network, one uses firewall to block access to any applications that try to access it.
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All you need to do is deselect Mobile Network. Even the description says its used to connect to the internet.

a question really easy

[SOLVED] WiFi not working properly? 3G/4G stays on due "My Account" App

So when i am home i have my WiFi on, which means my 4g is off. Now when the WiFi is on, i can not receive or send pictures. Also cant use the web or do anything like that but just send and receive text/calls.. and reason to this? maybe i have certain settings on that i don't know about? If i remember right, my wifi worked properly a few days ago.. but i cant remember exaclty. Help please? Thanks

no one knows?

Power cycle your router?

I've been having a different wifi issue. at home I have only edge coverage but I have petty good cable internet so obviously I want to use my wifi but for some reason the phone connects to wifi yet still uses the mobile network unless I turn off mobile data. My wifi sleep policy is set to never btw. Any ideas?
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Also if I turn off mobile data while connected to wifi then turn it on while still connected it stays on wifi fine. Its like the mobile radio is preventing the wifi connection from fully initializing or something

Same issue!
kenvan19 said:
I've been having a different wifi issue. at home I have only edge coverage but I have petty good cable internet so obviously I want to use my wifi but for some reason the phone connects to wifi yet still uses the mobile network unless I turn off mobile data. My wifi sleep policy is set to never btw. Any ideas?
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Also if I turn off mobile data while connected to wifi then turn it on while still connected it stays on wifi fine. Its like the mobile radio is preventing the wifi connection from fully initializing or something
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I am having the same issue. I have to go into airplane mode, then turn on wifi to actually be able to use it... otherwise seems to default to mobile radio...

I have the same issue..this is what i do to work around it though:
1. Go to Settings>Wireless and Networks>Mobile Networks
2. Uncheck packet data, and then check it again.
Once i do this, my wifi works again, let me know if it works for you.

jmr533 said:
I have the same issue..this is what i do to work around it though:
1. Go to Settings>Wireless and Networks>Mobile Networks
2. Uncheck packet data, and then check it again.
Once i do this, my wifi works again, let me know if it works for you.
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That does work but its a frustrating step lol
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jmr533 said:
I have the same issue..this is what i do to work around it though:
1. Go to Settings>Wireless and Networks>Mobile Networks
2. Uncheck packet data, and then check it again.
Once i do this, my wifi works again, let me know if it works for you.
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yes, does seem to work, but agree it's frustrating.... Hope they fix this soon.

Got this from the battery thread. This actually fixes the wifi issue on my SG2
The program is called Llama and can be downloaded from the market. I deleted all the default events and just added these 2. Hope this helps for all of you with this issue.
Originally Posted by paprcut View Post
Here are a couple of things that really helped my battery life:
- Install Llama and launch it
- Add an event called WiFi
-- Add condition: WiFi Connected (any network)
-- Add action: WiFi Sleep Policy (never sleep)
-- Add action: Toggle Mobile Data (off)
- Add another event called WiFi Disconnected
-- Add condition: WiFi Disconnected (any network)
-- Add action: WiFi Sleep Policy (sleeps when screen turns off)
-- Add action: Toggle Mobile Data (on)
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Try freezing "my account". It toggles data even with WiFi is on. Try it and let me know.

Brotha Noompsey said:
Got this from the battery thread. This actually fixes the wifi issue on my SG2
The program is called Llama and can be downloaded from the market. I deleted all the default events and just added these 2. Hope this helps for all of you with this issue.
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Actually saw this tread and had Llama installed with these 2 profiles added and was till getting this issue... Going to try Freezing My Account to see if that helps... I know it helped with my wifi issues on my G2x.
Update: Nothing seems to work now. Can't have Wifi and cell radio on at the same time... can get calls but nothing else...

I've seen it occasionally as well. I haven't needed to reboot though. It usually recovers after I toggle WiFi on and off and mess with some other things.

Splaktar said:
I've seen it occasionally as well. I haven't needed to reboot though. It usually recovers after I toggle WiFi on and off and mess with some other things.
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I notice the same issue and I also toggle wifi on and off to get it to work back again.
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Same here. I have to toggle wifi on/off and sometimes reconnect through wifi settings to get it back.
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Same here. It's really annoying
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Medikay said:
Recently I have noticed that the wifi on my phone stops working randomly...even though it says it's connected. Usually I can solve this problem by rebooting; should I return the device?
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Yes, either return or warranty exchange for a new one, I have not noticed this issue with my device at all.

I've been having the same issue and it definitely causes excessive battery drain. Sometimes toggling wifi off then on works. Other times it requires toggling mobile data off then on.
I had it happen just now and tried freezing 'my account' in titanium backup as suggested and my 4g indicator immediately turned off. Sweet! It seems that 'my account' is the culprit!
Edit: I really wish this topic wasn't merged...I think there were a couple 'wifi problem' threads talking about different issues. To clarify, my problem was that while on wifi my 4G indicator would sometimes turn on and consume more battery and (sometimes) force all data to use 4G instead of wifi. Really annoying!
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[Q] WiFi not working properly? 3G/4G stays on
My mobile data doesn't always turn off when wifi is on. Any ideas?

same here ,dont know what that is

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Mobile Data Not Turning Off

Hey there. I don't own this phone but my friend in another country does. They don't have great tech support so I thought I'd ask here. For some reason her mobile data button is greyed out. It's on, but not allowing her to turn it off. Anyone know what could be the problem? I've attached two screens that might be useful but they're in Russian. Any help would be great, thanks.

Habulda said:
Hey there. I don't own this phone but my friend in another country does. They don't have great tech support so I thought I'd ask here. For some reason her mobile data button is greyed out. It's on, but not allowing her to turn it off. Anyone know what could be the problem? I've attached two screens that might be useful but they're in Russian. Any help would be great, thanks.
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Isn't that WiFI?
Anyway it is LOCKED, this means that is can not be turned off. Does he installed any program that locks WiFi? Also tell him to check WiFi/mobile data settings.

Krystiannnnnn said:
Isn't that WiFI?
Anyway it is LOCKED, this means that is can not be turned off. Does he installed any program that locks WiFi? Also tell him to check WiFi/mobile data settings.
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No, wifi is on but mobile data is still used. It seems like it has higher preference over wifi. Everything is straight out of the box with no user installed apps.

Habulda said:
No, wifi is on but mobile data is still used. It seems like it has higher preference over wifi. Everything is straight out of the box with no user installed apps.
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Hmmmm
Turn off phone > Take out SIM card > Turn on phone > Turn off WiFi > reset developer settings > Take in SIM card > restart phone.
Also you said that mobile data has got bigger preference than WiFi. In that case make sure that option 'switch to mobile data' is turned off (see ss).
If this won't work, I think that she may need to reset factory settings.
Also when this problem occurred?

Krystiannnnnn said:
Hmmmm
Turn off phone > Take out SIM card > Turn on phone > Turn off WiFi > reset developer settings > Take in SIM card > restart phone.
Also you said that mobile data has got bigger preference than WiFi. In that case make sure that option 'switch to mobile data' is turned off (see ss).
If this won't work, I think that she may need to reset factory settings.
Also when this problem occurred?
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Ok will try that, but I've been looking around and there's an update for it I think so we'll do that first and see if anything happens.
And this was pretty much straight out of the box. Bought the phone, came home, started setup, turned on wifi and then all that she sees later is that her mobile data is gone.

Well, did he/she tried to connect to other WiFi network, what happenes then? I know it's not up to WiFi but I'm curious what will happen.

Thanks for the help guys, but the last software update seemed to fix the bug. Everything works fine now.