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Anyone can answer about data connection?

When I read the HTC Desire user manual, it said that I need to turn on the "Data Connection" setting to have internet connection.
Well, this is understandable ... but, does it has automatic connection on demand?
On Windows Mobile, I dont have to specifically turn on data connection. Whenever an app is trying to reach the internet, it will turn on the data connection automatically.
And of course, it will turn-off the data connection automatically as well, when there is no internet network activity.
Does this also the same in Android?

It should turn on automaticly when you try to use online services...
But you can turn it on in Wireless & Network

You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.

By default MENU -> Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile network was off on my device, meaning it would not connect to internet via 3G (I could still make/receive calls). However, I chose to use WiFi for set-up when I first started the phone, so maybe that's why.
Anyway, I guess that is the setting they are talking about.

Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
Zappza said:
You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.
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gogol said:
Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
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NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...

So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
pantera70 said:
NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...
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I do remember the old days of the HTC Hero which had the option of background data usage. I think that was more to do with the version of Android than anything else. I recently had the Nexus One and on the new 2.1 version of Android, you can either switch data on or off, no automated connections on data usage.

When the phone is sleeping (screen off) nearly everything is powered down anyway, even if the data connection is 'on'. Apps will wake the device (an power up radios as required) to do their updates when they need to.

gogol said:
So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
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The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.

Ok then
I think it has different meaning compared to the Windows Mobile.
In the COMM MANAGER, there is "Data Connection" toggle which normally is OFF. And this does not mean that the device cannot use 3G data connection.
While on Android, its data connection toggle setting means to enable or disable 3G data connection completely.
I think that is the difference, if we look from Windows Mobile point of view.
Thanks.
Zappza said:
The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.
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Is the desire always connected ?

Hi,
Coming from an HTC HD1 and HD2, I've just bought my HTC Desire yesterday. And wooow, it's amazing ! Really faster than the HD2 !
It seems that my Desire is always connected to the 3G/EDGE network. How can I see if I'm connected or not ? I've set "enable always on mobile" to OFF, and "Auto Sync" to OFF. But I still see the E icon with grey up and down arrows.
Is there an app to disconnect data after x minutes, if the device is not used ? On windows mobile, I was using WM Long Life to do that trick. I don't know if there is something similar, because I'm very new to Android.
Thanks

Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks toggle to turn it off. Alternatively, you can use the mobile network toggle widget, from HTC, on one of your homescreens.
About turning off the data after x amount of MB - I use 3G Watchdog. Search for it in the market, it's really good, plus comes with a useful homescreen widget etc etc. lol
Hope that helps.

pim said:
I still see the E icon with grey up and down arrows.
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Grey means they're not doing anything. They turn white when transmitting/receiving.

dpk said:
Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks toggle to turn it off. Alternatively, you can use the mobile network toggle widget, from HTC, on one of your homescreens.
About turning off the data after x amount of MB - I use 3G Watchdog. Search for it in the market, it's really good, plus comes with a useful homescreen widget etc etc. lol
Hope that helps.
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Thx for the answer. I went through Settings -> Wireless & Networks and turned off the connection. But this option totally prevents the phone from being connected to the 3G network. When I turn it back ON, then the phone automatically connects to the network.
What I want is the phone being able to connect but not permanently.
For example, I check my mails, the phone connects, retrieves the emails, and when no more data is being downloaded, disconnects after xx seconds.
It would drain less battery than being always connected.
I've searched for watchdog, but it isn't what I'm looking for.

Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks toggle to turn it off. Alternatively, you can use the mobile network toggle widget, from HTC, on on
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Thx for the answer. I went through Settings -> Wireless & Networks and turned off the connection. But this option totally prevents the phone from being connected to the 3G network. When I turn it back ON, then the phone automatically connects to the network.
What I want is the phone being able to connect but not permanently.
For example, I check my mails, the phone connects, retrieves the emails, and when no more data is being downloaded, disconnects after xx seconds.
It would drain less battery than being always connected.
I've searched for watchdog, but it isn't what I'm looking for.
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If its not transmitting data, it does not use any more power then if disconnected. Don't worry about it.
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

would highly recommend juice defender. managers disconnection of data at set times to conserve battery.

I have found APNDroid widget to work quite nice. Click to network on, check mail, update everything, then click off. Still not quite what you are looking for, but perhaps a solution. I am currently on 6 month contract in India & the mobile data rates here is ridiculously expensive. 1mb = 40min phone call in price. So it works quite well for the battery drain & cost saving here.

Why use APNdroid when there is a native widget, which does the exact same thing? (add widget, settings, mobile network)
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thanks. Didn't see that far.

KrewCial said:
Why use APNdroid when there is a native widget, which does the exact same thing? (add widget, settings, mobile network)
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thanks, didn't know that
anyway I use apndroid also, because when I click the Htc gadged, the apn connection is estabilished.
Apndroid adds a suffix to the apn name, thus it's impossible to connect (and pay fees ) if I don't want to

Turning off mobile internet

My wife has a problem with her EVO. Not so much with the EVO itself, but with Sprint service.
Within the building she works, she has terrible reception. Because of this, if she leaves mobile internet enabled, after a 6 hour day, her battery will be at 30%.The battery status says that she spent 60% without signal. I did do the "trick" to change her phone from GSM to CDMA using that diag menu from the dial menu, but again, the issue with her is that when she is deep in her building, she doesn't have any reception.
And of course, if she disables mobile internet before she gets to work, her battery is just fine when she leaves work.
Now, I am aware that you can either hold down the power button and turn it off and/or go into the options and enable it. We use LauncherPro, so we lost the ability to add the HTC sense mobile internet toggle widget.
Here are a few questions:
1. Does the Locale application work on the EVO, and if so, does it allow you to turn on/off mobile internet on a CDMA phone based on your location?
2. Is there a widget for the HTC EVO that lets you turn on/off mobile internet that works if you're not using HTC sense? The few I've found don't appear to work on a CDMA phone, or had reported problems.

just out of curiosity... You can't use the power button because your launcher does not have that feature? ... or you are looking for an automated way?

Does verizon have better coverage there? You could always try using their towers.

Locale does indeed work on the Evo, however it might be because I don't have the specific plugin, but i don't see any parameters to just turn off mobile internet. I think you can alternatively turn on wifi and have it auto connect to wifi at her work if they have it, since having wifi connected turns off mobile internet.
Another alternative is settings profile, which i haven't used myself but from the description it looks like it functions like locale, but also has a widget.
Lastly, when I need to toggle mobile internet, i'm using switchpro widget, which does have a toggle for mobile internet, as well as 4g and a few other options.

jigglywiggly said:
Does verizon have better coverage there? You could always try using their towers.
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How do you use their towers but wouldn't that be roaming ??

Try Timerrific. It let's you use time base profiles to enable and disable stiff and its free.

I use a widget called Dazzle.
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verse187 said:
How do you use their towers but wouldn't that be roaming ??
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Yes. Which is free. I do this all day every day. Where I work, service for both Sprint and Verizon suck. However I usually have one or the other and it will pick whichever one is better. Also, in the metro tunnels (subwway in Washington DC), Verizon has great service so I maintain a connection through them almost the whole way home.
Menu > Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks
- Check data roaming
- Uncheck the guards and the sound
- Click Roaming and set it for automatic

[Q] Turn off always on mobile data

Source: Here. Point #7.
7) Turn off always on mobile data
On HTC phones, the method for turning this off is menu, settings, wireless & networks, mobile networks, disable always on mobile data. This process may be slightly different for your phone, and the name of the setting may be slightly different as well. But what this does is prevent your phone’s data from ALWAYS being on. Often times this will disable data after your phone’s screen has been off for about 5 minutes. This won’t affect your email, weather, or other apps that require syncing; your data is turned on to sync those during their regular schedule.
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Is there such option available in Arc?

Unfortunately, no. But there is an app called Green Power. You can set the intervalls according to your preferences and much more!
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Just turn off mobile data i.e. uncheck it. And then you won't connect over 2G/3G.

NeoCream said:
Unfortunately, no. But there is an app called Green Power. You can set the intervalls according to your preferences and much more!
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Thanks. But was wondering whether such option is available in Arc.
xtacy! said:
Just turn off mobile data i.e. uncheck it. And then you won't connect over 2G/3G.
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I think you didn't read my original post clearly.

I have a problem that when i turn off my screen, my data will auto connect. i turn off again and it turn back on again. how to solve this problem?

My Arc S came with a widget called 'Data traffic' that lets you toggle data on/off easily.

What is the difference between LTE and Mobile Data?

What is the difference between LTE and Mobile Data?

Lte is a type of mobile data hspa+ is another type

Mobile data is data streaming over your carriers network. It what you use to browse the internet, check emails pretty much everything on your phone except calls and texts.
LTE is the speed of your mobile data connection, currently the fastest. There are different mobile data speeds, 2g/edge, 3g, 4g/lte.
Hopes this clears this up foe you.
Edit--> beaten to the punch lol

Thank you for the explanations. While I am at home or work I was trying to decide what items to turn off. I can turn off the GPS, LTE, & Mobile Data and use just use wi-fi.

I believe mobile data already turns off/disconnects when you are connected to wifi. If you go check your "about" screen while on wifi, it will show the mobile network at disconnected.
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This ^^^^^

The difference is when your Wi-Fi signal depreciates (for whatever reason), if you still have Mobile Data enabled, your carrier's data will pick up right where Wi-Fi left off.

drwx said:
I believe mobile data already turns off/disconnects when you are connected to wifi. If you go check your "about" screen while on wifi, it will show the mobile network at disconnected.
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Yep you are correct. I turned on/off the wi-fi and the mobile network state turned on/off accordingly. Does turning off mobile data help extend the battery?
zexco said:
The difference is when your Wi-Fi signal depreciates (for whatever reason), if you still have Mobile Data enabled, your carrier's data will pick up right where Wi-Fi left off.
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Thanks for the tip!
The reason I ask is because I am setting up some NFC tags and I wanted to know what services are OK to turn off.

sonny_c said:
Yep you are correct. I turned on/off the wi-fi and the mobile network state turned on/off accordingly. Does turning off mobile data help extend the battery?
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Yes it does. WiFi uses less battery. Mobile data is right there with display for the two biggest battery consumers.

jethro650 said:
Yes it does. WiFi uses less battery. Mobile data is right there with display for the two biggest battery consumers.
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Good to know. Thanks again.