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Anyone have Handcent delete all your messages for no reason?

I had a ton of text message threads in Handcent.. Just rebooted my phone like I do all the time. And all of a sudden they were gone! I tried to do a data restore from Titanium but that never seems to work for texts
Not the end of the world.. Just curios as to why it happened..

I have read before that sometimes HC will FC if too many messages are present on a thread, I guess this could be qualified as another side effect for a database that has become way too large for HC to handle.

This just happened to me again. After a manual reboot.. ALL of my text messages are gone. They're gone from the stock messaging app too so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I did a Google search and see other people are having this problem as well with just the stock messaging app. Any ideas on a fix? I'm missing some important text messages.... ugh..

Just noticed my saved wireless networks are gone after the reboot as well....
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thenags said:
This just happened to me again. After a manual reboot.. ALL of my text messages are gone. They're gone from the stock messaging app too so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I did a Google search and see other people are having this problem as well with just the stock messaging app. Any ideas on a fix? I'm missing some important text messages.... ugh..
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I can't help you with the root cause of the problem - I've never had it happen to me but a couple of friends have (all msgs wiped).
If the messages are missing from Handcent, they will also be missing from the stock app - there's no difference because the messages are (or should be) in the same place and you're just choosing to view/send them with Handcent or the stock app (or another of your choosing).
I CAN, however, help you try to minimize the effects of this happening in the future, as well as keep multiple records of your SMS...
I use two apps, together. The first one, called SMS Backup & Restore, by developer Ritesh Sahu has been a god send for me. You can backup all your messages and restore them, fully - it even gets the conversation threads in the right order by date upon recovery. In addition to manual backups, you can schedule backups.
While backing up is fast, I have to warn you that deleting all current messages (if you have a lot) and restoring them can take time. Restoring them, however, shows you a status bar so you can track its progress while deleting them just says "deleting" and you never know how long it will be. (The same dev also has a sister program for phone call logs - it's lightning fast and just as reliable/effective).
The other app I use is called "SMS Backup" by dev Christoph Studer (if you have trouble finding either of these in the market, look them up by searching for the dev's names). What this app does is work quietly in the background to send / upload your SMS to your Gmail. You can set which label you want to apply to them in Gmail, and then in Gmail set a filter to have them skip right over your inbox. This app also lets you have them appear as read when they are uploaded. All in all, you never even realize it's working and your Gmail will never be the wiser, until you have to refer back to an old SMS - maybe a phone number or address or some other vital info sent to you over text... and you can just go and find it at that time safely recorded in your Gmail.
I hope that helps!
Best of luck. If you're having trouble beyond disappearing texts, you may have other more serious underlying issues...

The problem with the backup apps are obviously I need to run them. Who thinks to do a backup prior to doing nothing more than a reboot?! It's crazy that the phone just deletes them on it's own. Searching on Google shows that this problem is wayyyy too common.

thenags said:
The problem with the backup apps are obviously I need to run them. Who thinks to do a backup prior to doing nothing more than a reboot?! It's crazy that the phone just deletes them on it's own. Searching on Google shows that this problem is wayyyy too common.
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who will do backups on a regular basis? folks that have lost data in the past. the more significant the loss, the better their backup habits.
i do backups. it seems the previous poster does. heck, i bet you start doing backups too.
the more you work with technology the more likely you are to ensure that your important data is at least duplicated. things like pictures, audio, video, text should be considered. this goes for desktops, laptops, netbooks, phones, etc. if it stores data, runs an OS and a users interacts with it...it will fail eventually.
sms backup works quite nicely. i found it after i lost my text messgs once.

I run Titanium every single night by schedule and nandroid every other night. I also have automated backups on all my PC's. But I send and recieve at least 1000 texts a day.. So when my texts randomly delete themselves at 5pm.... A backup made at 2am does me no good for my text messages....

Then modify your backup routine. I your backups won't recover your data...you are using the wrong tool. Sms backup can backup every X hrs.
Trust me..there is always a way to protect data that you find important.
I agree, the app shouldn't erase your data.
you can complain and cry....or...complain and recover.
The choice is solely up to you.
Good luck.

I back up all of my texts to my gmail, makes for great searching!

DraginMagik said:
Then modify your backup routine. I your backups won't recover your data...you are using the wrong tool. Sms backup can backup every X hrs.
Trust me..there is always a way to protect data that you find important.
I agree, the app shouldn't erase your data.
you can complain and cry....or...complain and recover.
The choice is solely up to you.
Good luck.
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Where is the option to backup every X hours? I've been through the settingss several times and don't see it

I've been using Handcent for 1.5 years now with no issue but just saw this with a customer who has the Thunderbolt. All messages are gone and she was not on the latest version which is 3.9 now. I've got 3.82 on my Evo so I'm going to leave it there till I know what's going on with this.

Lost Titanium Backup Freeze ability !

I can't find titanium backup freeze ability anymore; I did freezed tethering manager like 3 days ago; Should i reinstall Titanium? Also i hit restore from within titanium and I do not get a list of applications anymore.
Help will be great; I am new to rooting and everything that goes with

Did you try re-installing your pro key?
No idea on lost backup.

toy4x4 said:
Did you try re-installing your pro key?
No idea on lost backup.
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I upgraded from titanium, paid for it with my gmail but never got a "key" it just upgraded the one on the phone; I know it is weird but that is what I got.
i am new to this like i said b4; don't know much for that i apologyze if I sound stupid.

rock571 said:
I upgraded from titanium, paid for it with my gmail but never got a "key" it just upgraded the one on the phone; I know it is weird but that is what I got.
i am new to this like i said b4; don't know much for that i apologyze if I sound stupid.
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Go to market, and search for titanium backup, then install titanium backup pro key. That should work.
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parusia said:
Go to market, and search for titanium backup, then install titanium backup pro key. That should work.
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That is the one I have installed; the latest; no key anywhere in my google email. The application list is empty, when i go to batch to do anything; it notifies that it is foing batch but there is no applications; i tried to fix it with permissions from rom mannager; no luck; tried TB problems; no luck;
this app has lots of negative reviews that i obviosly overlook when paying for it all the way.
I am an IT guy, that is my day job, but not too savy with phone mod; that is how I am learning

You don't get a key in your email, the free version looks for the pro key app.

Try uninstalling both apps on your phone, reinstall the Regular version, open it up, then go install the pro, open it up. Let me know if that doesn't work.

Mitallust said:
Try uninstalling both apps on your phone, reinstall the Regular version, open it up, then go install the pro, open it up. Let me know if that doesn't work.
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That is a good try I guess but before i do it; do you know if it will grab the pro+key version i have already paid with google? i am done sending them a nasty email about contacting my visa department for a refund under fraud, but also told them i would love to keep the app; only if it works; i got several apps installed and this is the first one giving me head aches; giving my unfamiliarity with root and what to do or where to fix a problem file;
i did a nandroide backup when rooting but i think i did not had TB Pro yet at that time; i installed the Pro + Key after; it worked for like 2 days and stopped after running permission with rom manager to try and fix the dialer using LCD Resolution. I think it meesed up after that.
i do have a Drop box backup from TB but at this point i doubt it works; i tried to restore and it just beeps saying it did but it did not

Mitallust said:
Try uninstalling both apps on your phone, reinstall the Regular version, open it up, then go install the pro, open it up. Let me know if that doesn't work.
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Got my answer to my last post just trying that solution that seemed logial enough.
It worked; thanks mitallust; the app icon on my screen is the one for TB only (silverone) does not shows the golden one, also does not show TB pro in the applications tray on the screen, but the app is there on the phone. Weird stuff; will do a restart see whats up.

rock571 said:
That is a good try I guess but before i do it; do you know if it will grab the pro+key version i have already paid with google? i am done sending them a nasty email about contacting my visa department for a refund under fraud, but also told them i would love to keep the app; only if it works; i got several apps installed and this is the first one giving me head aches; giving my unfamiliarity with root and what to do or where to fix a problem file;
i did a nandroide backup when rooting but i think i did not had TB Pro yet at that time; i installed the Pro + Key after; it worked for like 2 days and stopped after running permission with rom manager to try and fix the dialer using LCD Resolution. I think it meesed up after that.
i do have a Drop box backup from TB but at this point i doubt it works; i tried to restore and it just beeps saying it did but it did not
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Glad to see it is fixed. Just to answer this point, since the Pro Key is an actual app purchase through the Marketplace, it will remember your Key when you re-install.

Mitallust said:
Glad to see it is fixed. Just to answer this point, since the Pro Key is an actual app purchase through the Marketplace, it will remember your Key when you re-install.
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Cool. thanks

Does Samsung Cloud restores app data?

Has anyone already tried this in real life?
Does it backup ALL of the app data like game progress and every single detail like Apple does with its iTunes backup?
I find this really really useful.
Thanks!

Nobody has tried it yet?

Good question, that would actually be really useful!

Well, this is a little embarrassing. But, last night I went to clear cache in recovery after making some changes in my disabled packages. I accidently did a factory reset, instead. I can confirm that it does reinstall your apps and reinstalls the theme etc. I don't play games on my phone, so I cant help you there. I had to resign in to banking apps, xda, re add my card to Samsung pay etc.
So, Ill have to say, no, it does not restore every detail as you mention. Mostly it restored my settings and "look and feel" aka theme/icons. My contacts where back, and txt messages where back (but the txt messages could have been the AT&T service). It did download my custom font, but didnt apply it.
In summary: It put my apps back on my phone I had downloaded but I to resign in to everything. I also had to import my package disabler pro script. Contacts where back in as well. I was also disappointed I had to set up all three of my emails again. I wish the cloud service acted like smart switch, but it does not.
Oh and be warned the phone is extremely laggy during restore operation. The phone also becomes pretty hot during the operation. In total it took me about 30 minutes to get back everything 100% the way I had it.
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the1stSecond said:
Well, this is a little embarrassing. But, last night I went to clear cache in recovery after making some changes in my disabled packages. I accidently did a factory reset, instead. I can confirm that it does reinstall your apps and reinstalls the theme etc. I don't play games on my phone, so I cant help you there. I had to resign in to banking apps, xda, re add my card to Samsung pay etc.
So, Ill have to say, no, it does not restore every detail as you mention. Mostly it restored my settings and "look and feel" aka theme/icons. My contacts where back, and txt messages where back (but the txt messages could have been the AT&T service). It did download my custom font, but didnt apply it.
In summary: It put my apps back on my phone I had downloaded but I to resign in to everything. I also had to import my package disabler pro script. Contacts where back in as well. I was also disappointed I had to set up all three of my emails again. I wish the cloud service acted like smart switch, but it does not.
Oh and be warned the phone is extremely laggy during restore operation. The phone also becomes pretty hot during the operation. In total it took me about 30 minutes to get back everything 100% the way I had it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N930A using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Thanks!
Well, that's quite disappointing. I read articles saying it could restore app settings, but it seems it's not like iTunes still, where it restores an exact copy of your previous setup.

I have this now on my S7 Edge and so far it always fails to backup the App section, there is always an error. The other sections complete without issue.
Are your App backups working prior to doing a restore?

Sensamic said:
Thanks!
Well, that's quite disappointing. I read articles saying it could restore app settings, but it seems it's not like iTunes still, where it restores an exact copy of your previous setup.
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No prob! Yes, I agree in being disappointed. Hopefully they will tweak the service to be more comparable to an iTunes restore. Or, it's possible we are missing something? I do not find any in depth settings for back and restore for Samsung Cloud. As far as I can see its either "on or off".
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App backup doesn't work here too. Other sections fine but no app backup.
SM-N930F cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi

maddoc17 said:
App backup doesn't work here too. Other sections fine but no app backup.
SM-N930F cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
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If you have any apps or data from apps on the SD card or are using the card as adoptable storage, it wont work.

the1stSecond said:
Well, this is a little embarrassing. But, last night I went to clear cache in recovery after making some changes in my disabled packages. I accidently did a factory reset, instead. I can confirm that it does reinstall your apps and reinstalls the theme etc. I don't play games on my phone, so I cant help you there. I had to resign in to banking apps, xda, re add my card to Samsung pay etc.
So, Ill have to say, no, it does not restore every detail as you mention. Mostly it restored my settings and "look and feel" aka theme/icons. My contacts where back, and txt messages where back (but the txt messages could have been the AT&T service). It did download my custom font, but didnt apply it.
In summary: It put my apps back on my phone I had downloaded but I to resign in to everything. I also had to import my package disabler pro script. Contacts where back in as well. I was also disappointed I had to set up all three of my emails again. I wish the cloud service acted like smart switch, but it does not.
Oh and be warned the phone is extremely laggy during restore operation. The phone also becomes pretty hot during the operation. In total it took me about 30 minutes to get back everything 100% the way I had it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N930A using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Hi, it reinstall theme ? so if i root my Boom Note 7 and install avengers theme, Samsung cloud will be able to get it back on my new note 7 ? ^^

Only restores app data for some Samsung apps like weather and clock nothing else. It does restore all apps even side loaded. It does restore most of the os settings but not all
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It restores data for some apps. For example, data for Color Note are saved and restored. Data for And Ftp are not.
Same for Desktop version and the direct cable connection version of Smart Switch.

Which one is better, the OTA cloud backup or Smart Search?

Genebaby said:
Which one is better, the OTA cloud backup or Smart Search?
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They probably use identical technologies.

On the S7 Edge Loaner that I tried, it got back the Apps, but had to re-sign into all of them. Also, No themes were applied and settings failed to carry over

It fails, dismally. Like previous reviewers have stated, Samsung's backup/restore feature does NOT backup app settings as promised. It does nothing more than reinstall apps, without any customisation, as if you've never used them before. What's more, if your new handset has updated firmware or different settings to your previous one, then you may find your "restored" apps suffering compatibility issues and causing system instability. Until Samsung's backup/restore software functions the way it's supposed to, you're better off installing the apps the old-fashioned way, or using Google's backup/restore option, which at least avoids conflicts.

You would think if anyone could get this to work it would be Samsung, using their app on their phone. Good one guys.

For those that tested this app, did your backups fully complete or did they fail near the end?
Mine always failed at the end when doing the apps, but I just got the Nougat update and the phone initiated a backup and it finally went all the way.
So I'm wondering if now it would be better.

Samsung backup is terrible.
It will definitely NOT backup game saves. I recently confirmed this. It will backup game settings, saving you a whopping 30 seconds of having to endure the tedious task of changing them to what you want, but the save games you spent hours/days on? That isnt important to Samsung.

Question Google One MMS/RCS Restore

Hey all.
Anyone else fine that pictures don't restore using Google One / when ticking the option to restore MMS. Luckily I use SMS Backup and Restore so didn't lose anything but seems like the restore function of MMS/RCS pictures is broken.

HamsterHam said:
Hey all.
Anyone else fine that pictures don't restore using Google One / when ticking the option to restore MMS. Luckily I use SMS Backup and Restore so didn't lose anything but seems like the restore function of MMS/RCS pictures is broken.
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Back in the days when I tried to use Google One backup (about a year ago), it gave out a couple errors and only restored portions of data. Nice to know that Google One backup is still useless.

Morgrain said:
Back in the days when I tried to use Google One backup (about a year ago), it gave out a couple errors and only restored portions of data. Nice to know that Google One backup is still useless.
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Okay so I back tested - 6 Pro to 5 and basically if I waited 45 minutes a notification comes up to say restore the MMS photos. That's crazy it takes that long.

My full backup worked perfectly through Google One so you know why? MMV
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HamsterHam said:
Hey all.
Anyone else fine that pictures don't restore using Google One / when ticking the option to restore MMS. Luckily I use SMS Backup and Restore so didn't lose anything but seems like the restore function of MMS/RCS pictures is broken.
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Worked fine for me

NYCHitman1 said:
Worked fine for me
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Haha! Back testing seems like I just was impatient. If I waited a notification would have popped up saying 'Get more data from your old phone'. Is that how it worked for you?

Question Does anybody use Google One for backups?

TL;DR Has anyone had issues backing up MMS using Google One and successfully fixed the issues? Mine randomly works whenever it wants to and then wipes itself out
I have been a Google One subscriber for a few years now and I have found that the backup piece of it doesn't work right with MMS. I have a case opened with G One support that is now about 1.5 years old and still they haven't fixed the issue. What I've seen is that MMS either doesn't backup at all or it will backup for a few days and then just randomly get wiped out during a subsequent backup.
I've gone through 3 different pixel phones, 3 OS updates and too many to count versions of G One, Drive, messages, play services, etc yet nothing seems to fix this.
Of course when I had posted on this forum about the 12L issues and eventually ended up performing a device wipe and then also used the Android online flash tool, I lost nearly a gig worth of MMS pictures. I was so pissed bc what I thought was happening, wasn't. I do always make a backup with SMS backup and restore app and still do have that database but I've found that restoring from that app ends up causing duplicates and weird corruptions (unless something has changed in the past year).
I had this case open with G One support and saw it was still open so I replied to it and let them know the issue was still happening after all this time and why hasn't it been fixed yet. They basically responded back with tier 1 troubleshooting steps I've performed a million times which by the luck of the draw, may or may not fix anything. If it does fix it, it works for like 2 or 3 days and then it's broken again anyway. This case is supposedly escalated and they have "reached out for updates" to the dev team but I've basically gotten zero useful info.
Does anyone else have this issue and have successfully fixed it on your own or somehow had Google fix it? If interested, I can list out all the troubleshooting steps I've done but essentially, the super troubleshooting step is a factory reset and I've also reloaded the OS completely. I've also deleted nearly all my text that had pictures in there (but after restore showed as a blank spot where a pic should be but nothing) just in case there is corrupt data anywhere. I now have about 25 or so pics that have come in to my messages since the last round of troubleshooting and again, randomly it backs them up showing the MMS database is like 70-90MB (as it's growing from new pics) and then randomly it'll wipe it out and I'm back down to under 200KB and that's where it stays until the next time it randomly works.
Very frustrating

Sounds weird but I never had that issue. Why don't you try a SMS back up tool?

I've had this issue extensively with Google One backups. It will say MMS is backed up, but never restores it. Or it only restores half of them or something like that.
I switched to Swift Backup and honestly it's 100% better. It's like an old TWRP backup. I've had to wipe my phone many times due to mess ups, but swift backup has helped me restore all my data.
I also talked to G One support, all they told me is to not restore data, then download the app on a fresh wipe, and restore a backup. But even then the app doesn't work like it's supposed to.

DRatJr said:
I've had this issue extensively with Google One backups. It will say MMS is backed up, but never restores it. Or it only restores half of them or something like that.
I switched to Swift Backup and honestly it's 100% better. It's like an old TWRP backup. I've had to wipe my phone many times due to mess ups, but swift backup has helped me restore all my data.
I also talked to G One support, all they told me is to not restore data, then download the app on a fresh wipe, and restore a backup. But even then the app doesn't work like it's supposed to.
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Thanks for the input. I downloaded Swift to see how that works out. I am still wanting G One to be fixed bc it's so nice to have everything all done "in house" but I'm at my whit's end with G One and it's terrible SMS/MMS backup. Everything else seems to backup and restore just fine. I just don't how Google can't code software to work with its own stuff correctly yet various 3rd party devs can do it.

jrg67 said:
Thanks for the input. I downloaded Swift to see how that works out. I am still wanting G One to be fixed bc it's so nice to have everything all done "in house" but I'm at my whit's end with G One and it's terrible SMS/MMS backup. Everything else seems to backup and restore just fine. I just don't how Google can't code software to work with its own stuff correctly yet various 3rd party devs can do it.
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Swift is pretty good because it can use that extra GOne storage to upload backups. I haven't had an issue with it yet. Reminds me of the old TWRP backups or Titanium Backups. I would love if GOne would work properly lol. I want to use it too. But it is just super unreliable with MMS specifically, and then some app data doesn't restore properly. Google not being able to have a backup solution as good as iCloud/iTunes is baffling to me too. But you can still use GOne but just don't backup SMS/MMS and use Swift for that. Unfortunate you have to use third party but this has worked really well for me.

I only got android one because I ran out of storage and couldn't do back ups iv not used mms in ages so couodnt tell but I did get a message saying about mms back up sorry not much help I mainly use WhatsApp to send pics and recently used rcs

Yes, I do and it makes me sad it doesn't work consistently

The thing about swift for me is when I restore my backed up messages, all my blocked spam gets restored too. Wish the devs would work out a workaround for that. Sounds silly I guess but it would be a pretty neat feature for swift.