Sadly it would appear that Three in the UK are not currently listing the Samsung Omnia 7 as available dispite WP7 listing them as a carrier
Anybody got any inside info on why this is?
Professor Simon Peach said:
Sadly it would appear that Three in the UK are not currently listing the Samsung Omnia 7 as available dispite WP7 listing them as a carrier
Anybody got any inside info on why this is?
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Omnia 7 in the UK is available through T-Mobile / Three / Orange. But following a series of great deals for this handset, I can confirm it's currently out of stock on T-Mobile, so I assume that is the case with Three. For the past few weeks Omnia 7 has been offered for £15.33/15.00 pm on T-Mob/3 respectively.
I wonder if the device is being heavily subsided by Microsoft/OEMs or the carriers themselves?
I.e. are the carriers trying to get rid of their Omnia 7s or is it a concerted push by MS to try and increase their share of the market..?
Casey_boy said:
I.e. are the carriers trying to get rid of their Omnia 7s or is it a concerted push by MS to try and increase their share of the market..?
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I don't think it's a MS attempt, because all the other WP7 handsets retain their £20-30 pm price bracket, at least in the UK market. (HTC 7 Trophy being the only exclusion). The Omnia7 (the 16GB edition) was offered in Germany, from T-Mobile @ 199eur (~£176) on PAYG, as well.
It seems strange, though, cause if there is one WP7 device that enjoys some success, that's the Omnia7. Just a wild guess, the Omnia7 was close to hit end of stock, and was offered on discount to clear.
T-mobile appear to be absent of Omnia 7's too ?
The reason I looked is that I ordered one earlier in the week for my father, he had play with mine before saying get one to replace his wm6.2
colleague wants a cheap smart phone again I showed him mine & said look for a Omnia 7 on T-mobile or three, from £15 the three deal comes with .5 GB of data
I got a report that the phones ain't there.
Orange don't have an Omnia just a Mozart
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Hey does anyone know if any networks are claiming exclusivity to the Touch Pro 2 in the UK and even when its likely to be with the different GSM companies.
My TyTnII is getting very worn down and I dont fancy buying a second SIM-free phone to get the Pro2 to replace it.
i am also (and for a looooong time) eagerly awaiting the answer to this question!
my kaiser looks like it got imported from the classic starwars era, or has just been fighting the taliban in afghanistan, call buttons are just red or green haphazard scratches and the windows start button...lol its not even there anymore!
Mobilegazette have it hitting t-mobile in the UK, Germany, Netherlands, Austria and Czech Republic in June.
Orange retentions UK, confirmed it's on their list of coming soon but no specific date.
O2 release
Any word on an o2 release as i cant see why it wouldnt but would be nice to know that i dont have to change networks to get it.
Then again o2 keep tight lipped on everything until it is actually released.
lets hope its not the same farse on tmobile that the MDA Vario 4 was.
chris10230 said:
Any word on an o2 release as i cant see why it wouldnt but would be nice to know that i dont have to change networks to get it.
Then again o2 keep tight lipped on everything until it is actually released.
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I had a meeting with a sales rep from o2 the other day with a view to switch from Vodafone to o2 and he mentioned that they are looking at getting some updated HTC models in soon and whilst he couldnt give names he hinted at the diamond2 would be one and the pro2 may be another.
He also said that they put their devices through a long testing period before release so they can put their custom ROM in.
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I had a meeting with a sales rep from o2 the other day with a view to switch from Vodafone to o2 and he mentioned that they are looking at getting some updated HTC models in soon and whilst he couldnt give names he hinted at the diamond2 would be one and the pro2 may be another.
He also said that they put their devices through a long testing period before release so they can put their custom ROM in.
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Which means a release in late-2010 for upgrade customers over retentions. I am willing to put alot of money on this to be the case.
EViS said:
Which means a release in late-2010 for upgrade customers over retentions. I am willing to put alot of money on this to be the case.
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Yeah which is why im not holding out on O2 for anything with the Pro2.
At the moment I am considering taking the upgrade on orange to the touch HD, selling my original touch HD (bought sim free) and then buying the Pro2 sim free when it comes out.
What i want to do is have Orange announce the Pro2 then see what deal they can concoct to keep me on the network when I come to review my contract in a month or 2
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Yeah which is why im not holding out on O2 for anything with the Pro2.
At the moment I am considering taking the upgrade on orange to the touch HD, selling my original touch HD (bought sim free) and then buying the Pro2 sim free when it comes out.
What i want to do is have Orange announce the Pro2 then see what deal they can concoct to keep me on the network when I come to review my contract in a month or 2
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It had better come out on o2 as i really dont want to switch to orange and really cant be arsed with the move to a new network, come on o2 and bring it to us earlier than 6 months after the full realease of the phone!
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It had better come out on o2 as i really dont want to switch to orange and really cant be arsed with the move to a new network, come on o2 and bring it to us earlier than 6 months after the full realease of the phone!
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I dont mind which network takes it - Orange would be less hassle for me as im already there but I just want a network to confirm it and put it on a coming soon page so i can plan leaving or working on getting a pre-order in
Phone will be out on orange later this month, maybe towards the end as it should not conflict with the launch of the omnia hd which is due this week, T Mobile will be getting the touch diamond with a view to picking up the touch pro 2 in july. Nothing on o2 or vodafone as of yet.
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Phone will be out on orange later this month, maybe towards the end as it should not conflict with the launch of the omnia hd which is due this week, T Mobile will be getting the touch diamond with a view to picking up the touch pro 2 in july. Nothing on o2 or vodafone as of yet.
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Arvin - have you got any press release or anything from Orange to back this up? Really want to see what they want to start pitching it at so i can work out what i do/dont want to spend with them!
HTC Touch Pro2 price and availability confirmed @ Clove (UK)
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Arvin - have you got any press release or anything from Orange to back this up? Really want to see what they want to start pitching it at so i can work out what i do/dont want to spend with them!
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work for orange, its on coming soon page on our internal board.
i talked to HTC yesterday and got release date of 05.06 for the U.K and Germany.
Timossss said:
i talked to HTC yesterday and got release date of 05.06 for the U.K and Germany.
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Hope this is correct
thats what i got in writing from htc (without any commitment as observation of course). If we compare the time periord of release of the diamond and touch pro it was aprox.the same, so it could be true.
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work for orange, its on coming soon page on our internal board.
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Any idea how long internal coming soon turns to official coming soon/release. My commitment date on the contract just passed for my TyTnII and i am looking to upgrade ASAP!
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Any idea how long internal coming soon turns to official coming soon/release. My commitment date on the contract just passed for my TyTnII and i am looking to upgrade ASAP!
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well the omnia hd went on mid april and its being launched this week now, the touch pro 2 came on around the same time frame and should land end of this month or begining of june. supplier problems hindered the launch of the omnia hd though , was meant to be last week so might have pushed the touch pro 2 back a bit
The Expansys website has been updated to say...
Availability: Normally less than 5 days
I sent an email to them asking if this is the case and when we can expect it to be release.
This is the reply...
Many thanks for your enquiry , please be advised that the Touch Pro 2 is out towards the end of June.
I hope this aint true.
Cant find a 16GB Omnia 7 anywhere, i heard it was gonna be in Germany. Just wondered as wanted to know if i could find out exactly what NAND memory they are susposed to be using for it. If i find out, ill be tempted to remove my 8GB memory and solder in the 16GB NAND memory. If it dosnt work, ill just have to send it in to the service repair centre..... hey wait a minute, couldnt i just send it in to them and ask them to do it for me so i dont void my warranty??
I am hoping that the 16GB Omnia 7 is the one destined for Verizon with LTE compatability.
unfortunately i doubt it. you already have the focus which is pretty much the same inside except it has the microsdslot! so your best bet is to get the focus!
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unfortunately i doubt it. you already have the focus which is pretty much the same inside except it has the microsdslot! so your best bet is to get the focus!
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The Focus is on AT&T, I am talking about Verizon. Verizon has had all the other Omnia's (i910 and i920) so I don't see why they wouldn't get the 7. I am just hoping it will be compatible with the new LTE network that will be up and running in my area. (plus an expandable memory slot )
Well it's definitely true that all the Omnia 7 in germany seem to have 16GB as they are already available in most online shops here. But sadly I couldn't find anyone who has this device atm.
The 16GB version is now widely available in Germany.
Many online shops got them. Some of they say it's the Tmo branded one, but they are still sim-lock free and the only branding that will not go away, is the start screen animation (there is no hardware branding).
Yes,
i have bought one yesterday in a t-mobile shop.
Without a phone plan from t-mobile. When you buy it in the shop it coast´s more than in the online shop of t-mobile.de. There you can buy the Samsung Omnia 7 also without a phone plan.
The Omnia 7 has 16 GB. It is a nice device. Very fast.
No reboots like the user of HD7 reports and really nice display.
I have fun with this device
care to link to any of those stores? i only find them on ebay.
Here are some links. Dont know about shipping though. Just drop them a line and they should ship it internationally.
http://www.handyattacke.de/handys/s...gb-ebony-black-t-mobile-hardware-software.htm
http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/0,4855,2963-_122595-0-10452;CNC-0,00.html
http://www.techniktrade.de/product_info.php?info=p41689_T-Mobile-Omnia-7-16-GB-sw-tm.html
http://www.n1shop.de/a-612-781658-0...WTM.html?sid=f197ed1d37a7ef7ee346adda23dc8078
http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Omnia-7-T-Mobile/dp/B0047UJQJK
You can only get them in Germany for some reason.
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Here are some links. Dont know about shipping though. Just drop them a line and they should ship it internationally.
http://www.handyattacke.de/handys/s...gb-ebony-black-t-mobile-hardware-software.htm
http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/0,4855,2963-_122595-0-10452;CNC-0,00.html
http://www.techniktrade.de/product_info.php?info=p41689_T-Mobile-Omnia-7-16-GB-sw-tm.html
http://www.n1shop.de/a-612-781658-0...WTM.html?sid=f197ed1d37a7ef7ee346adda23dc8078
http://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Omnia-7-T-Mobile/dp/B0047UJQJK
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Cool, I just asked about that in the Omnia 7 thread... Anyone knows if one of these shops sells branding free (hardware and software)?
Amazon doesn't mention if it's 8GB or 16GB
There are no branding free omnia 7 phones here in Germany. They all come from tmobile.
But, you can delete all the installed tmobile apps. The only thing that stays is the tmobile boot up logo (max. 3 seconds) and the search page IN the internet explorer when you press the hardware search button. Mms seems to be locked to tmobile so far too.
There is NO hardware branding on the device itself. No stickers, nothing. The package comes also unbranded and tmo is not even mentioned anywhere.
I'm using the phone with a german o2 sim so its not simlocked either. Overall I would buy the phone again in a heart beat if I had to chose. Impressed with everything so far and eagerly waiting for the 1st update
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You can only get them in Germany for some reason.
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Does anybody know if an unlocked Omnia 7 16GB purchased in Germany would work fine in France (language, network, etc...) ?
Thank you very much.
yes, it'll work perfectly fine
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Does anybody know if an unlocked Omnia 7 16GB purchased in Germany would work fine in France (language, network, etc...) ?
Thank you very much.
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Yes, the device is unlocked, you can put any carrier sim into it and yes you can switch regional format & language to french. Be aware that only T-mobile branded devices have 16 GB of storage - the unbranded have only 8 GB. Fortunately a lot of shops sell the branded devices without a contract. I'd recommend to flash the I8700XXJK1 Firmware found in the Omnia 7 forum to unbrand the device. You will also receive faster updates from Microsoft with an unbranded device because they don't have to be approved by the carrier.
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Yes, the device is unlocked, you can put any carrier sim into it and yes you can switch regional format & language to french. Be aware that only T-mobile branded devices have 16 GB of storage - the unbranded have only 8 GB. Fortunately a lot of shops sell the branded devices without a contract. I'd recommend to flash the I8700XXJK1 Firmware found in the Omnia 7 forum to unbrand the device. You will also receive faster updates from Microsoft with an unbranded device because they don't have to be approved by the carrier.
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Thank you very much I may travel to Kehl soon...
They sell in Finland sim-free omnia7 16GB.
I am using Omnia 7 16 GB in Turkey. I brought it from Germany.
freddy28 said:
Yes, the device is unlocked, you can put any carrier sim into it and yes you can switch regional format & language to french. Be aware that only T-mobile branded devices have 16 GB of storage - the unbranded have only 8 GB. Fortunately a lot of shops sell the branded devices without a contract. I'd recommend to flash the I8700XXJK1 Firmware found in the Omnia 7 forum to unbrand the device. You will also receive faster updates from Microsoft with an unbranded device because they don't have to be approved by the carrier.
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Would this firmware work oke with the 16GB version? (as its normally flashed onto 8GB versions)
I'd love to habe the 16gb Omnia - my Provider (A1 Austria) does only have the 8GB version...
Ok, so it appears some carriers have blocked the first update that does nothing to WP7.
To take a quote from WP7 support:
[Some Mobile Operators have the right to skip one update if they wish.
However, they can't skip the next one, which would be an acumulative update and would include the previous one.
So if your mobile operator decided to block this one, you will be getting the early March one (which will include the Feb one too)]
from Microsoft Windows Phone Forum
The concern is if they block an update that does nothing, what will they do in future?
So, lets try to isolate which ones havent updated yet - if you have a BRANDED handset that HAS OR HAS NOT been updated :
U
- name the Carrier/Branding, Handset Model and Country so others know.
As updates hit these phones, I will append the date of the update to the handset on the list.
No update
ATT LG Quantum
ATT Samsung Focus
ATT HTC Surround
T-Mobile HTC HD7 (US I assume)
T-Mobile Dell Venue Pro. (US I assume)
Telus LG Optimus 7
Telus HTC Surround
Orange HTC 7 Mozart
Orange (France)
SFR (France)
Telstra LG Optimus 7Q
Telstra HTC Mozart - UPDATE - Mid march maybe
Vodafone (Spanish) LG Optimus 7
Now released
O2 Branded HD7 Released 3/3
Vodafone Netherlands HTC 7 Trophy - Released 6/3
Vodafone (Australia) HTC Trophy - release - some other regions also 3/3
Optus - Released 3/3
Vodafone AU - released 3/3
There is also a list of carriers who are apparently confirmed to be pusing it out - but I would debate this to be totally accurate (as with the above list) as they too are sourcing their information from posts by people who may not necessarily know if their phone is Branded.
http://wmpoweruser.com/carriers-who-are-confirmed-to-be-pushing-out-updates/
My t mobile hd7 has not received any updates so far.
None of my US branded devices are recieving anything
ATT LG Quantum
ATT Samsung Focus
ATT HTC Surround
T-Mobile HTC HD7
my unbranded devices received update love though...
ATT Focus
My ATT Samsung Focus has not received an update notification.
Vodafone HTC Trophy
Orange HTC 7 Mozart
I think there was an article somewhere stating that this update is being rolled out in steps to ensure that it goes out smoothly.
i think it is quite probable that MS is also sort of dipping its toe in the water before it dives in with the first proper update.
hboos said:
I think there was an article somewhere stating that this update is being rolled out in steps to ensure that it goes out smoothly.
i think it is quite probable that MS is also sort of dipping its toe in the water before it dives in with the first proper update.
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Of course this is possible, but then they go post things like:
To take a quote from WP7 support:
'Some Mobile Operators have the right to skip one update if they wish.
However, they can't skip the next one, which would be an acumulative update and would include the previous one.
So if your mobile operator decided to block this one, you will be getting the early March one (which will include the Feb one too)'
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...7/thread/f28b13c4-97dc-4930-a996-a8a3f2c4430d
Spanish Vodafone LG Optimus 7 not receiving the update either.
No love here either.
Dell Venue Pro on T-Mobile U.S.
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No love here either.
Dell Venue Pro on T-Mobile U.S.
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Is it actually T-Mobile branded firmware?
No love for O2 Branded HD7
When I asked if TmoUSA was blocking the update, I got this response from WindowsPhoneSupport...
We don't have any information on that. If you still haven't received the update please be patient and check back later. ^EB
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When I asked if TmoUSA was blocking the update, I got this response from WindowsPhoneSupport...
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Thanks for that.
At this stage, I am just compliling a list of branded phones that have not been updated - as they get updated, I will ammend the list and append the date of the update next to the carrier.
I love that, Microsoft say they dont know if a carrier has blocked an update...
otech said:
Thanks for that.
At this stage, I am just compliling a list of branded phones that have not been updated - as they get updated, I will ammend the list and append the date of the update next to the carrier.
I love that, Microsoft say they dont know if a carrier has blocked an update...
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Well, in the support team's defense, they probably wouldn't be given that information, especially the Twitter branch of it... At least not this early. I think they're just tiering the updates, and maybe holding them off until they fix this Samsung issue...
Bass Ackwards
You need to compile a list of people that HAVE received the update, not people that have not: Microsoft directly said the first update would NOT be rolled out to everyone.
Also, what's the big deal ? It's just a pre-emptive update, not something that actually matters.
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You need to compile a list of people that HAVE received the update, not people that have not: Microsoft directly said the first update would NOT be rolled out to everyone.
Also, what's the big deal ? It's just a pre-emptive update, not something that actually matters.
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Actually, it has the first batch of OEM software updates, so it does matter.
I am monitoring the update thread for those that have.
Samsung Focus with AT&T here and still without an update. I wish there was another way to get them.
Neither me or my mate have received updates on our T-Mobile Samsung Omnia 7s
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Microsoft directly said the first update would NOT be rolled out to everyone.
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Sorry, I must have missed that: link please?
It certainly doesnt say that on the announcment page: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...t-windows-phone-update-and-how-to-get-it.aspx
Hi,
I have a locked Omnia 7 on Orange. I have an OS version of 7392. I was expecting to get the mango update but still Zune says my phone is up to date.
Has anyone in the UK received Mango for their Omnia 7 on the Orange network?
Thanks for your help
Graham
Yeh - Both me and my sister got it on Orange about 2 weeks ago. It's random though as far as i can tell wheteher you are in the early rounds or not. Even if your carrier has approved it.
Thanks.
Do you know how long i should be waiting for the update?
Hmm i'm not sure, there is this on the windows phone blog...
"For example, we're working with Orange in Europe to resolve a couple technical issues that are temporarily preventing us from delivering updates at full throttle to all its Windows Phone customers. "
http://wmpoweruser.com/o2-germany-claims-to-have-a-32-gb-nokia-lumia-900/
Wishful thinking but is this why O2 UK haven't any stock?
That is surely a mistake otherwise they would be shouting about it wouldn't they?
EDIT: well it seems that post has been updated with confirmation from O2 Germany of the spec. Interesting.
In a way I am glad of this, I now know to get one from Germany if the UK spec ones if they ever show have just 16GB, Hate the fact that we get everything last in UK, At least O2 Germany appear to be doing their customers proud with such a great Handset, Well Jel
When it says "confirmed by O2 customers service" here's what I picture happened;
WMPowerUser: Please can you confirm how much memory the Lumia 900 has?
Customer Service: Sure, let me check that for you.
At this point, they consult the website / catalogue, which as we all can see says 32Gb.
Customer Service: That phone has 32Gb memory.
WMPowerUser: Brilliant, thanks. Goodbye.
O2 had the omnia 7 with 16 gb of memory while everybody else had it with 8 gb of memory, i think that there is something here.
So are you saying Nokia have a seperate production line producing 32Gb 900's solely for the German market?
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O2 had the omnia 7 with 16 gb of memory while everybody else had it with 8 gb of memory, i think that there is something here.
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That was T-mobile, not O2
I believe the Germans also have a 32GB HTC One X, I wonder why they get these privileges on storage
I just can't see this, it'd sort of sound like suicide for Nokia as it'd alienate customers in other countries.
well like i said, o2 did have a history of producing larger storage in their devices, so i would not be suprised, and so what now there would be an option for 32 gb noia lumia 900!
O2 updated the page and it now shows 16GB.
Wow they certainly made a big Typo there lol, Well spotted.
Funnily enough I emailed Nokia earlier today to ask for confirmation and now it's been corrected. Seems the journos didn't clarify things after all.