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i have sense on my evo again because everywhere i went no matter my signal, the bars on cm6 showed 1-2 rarely 3 never 4 and the 3G was painfully slow. ran tests and i got .1 mbps on cm6, flashed sense to see if my phone was the problem and it got 1mbps, ten times faster? can anyone explain the potential problem here? its killing me cuz i love aosp but the 3G is killin me
Always had the same issue here. One of the reasons I stay on a sense based rom.
mic.mayorga said:
i have sense on my evo again because everywhere i went no matter my signal, the bars on cm6 showed 1-2 rarely 3 never 4 and the 3G was painfully slow. ran tests and i got .1 mbps on cm6, flashed sense to see if my phone was the problem and it got 1mbps, ten times faster? can anyone explain the potential problem here? its killing me cuz i love aosp but the 3G is killin me
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And just a suggestion, install a senseless ROM... Built off sense but has sense removed... Will be the closest thing to AOSP but will keep your speeds and 4g working.
The signle meter on CM6 only has 4 bars, the Sense one has like 8. You are getting the same coverage.
Secondly, wrong forum. This is development.
Third. I have slow 3G on CM6 roms too. I have no idea why, and everyone else will tell you it's Sprint. But I can be in the same place, and run speedtests and Sense based ROMs are always faster.
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Yup. Sense will always have better 3G signal. Sometimes when I am on CM the signal even drops down to 1x.
Thats irrelevant .. he also posted the speeds he was getting. OP, I don't know what's wrong; doesn't happen to me. Is it on all aosp roms? Try messing round with the settings
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
oops i thought i posted in q&a, my bad.
and i understand the whole bar ratio but on sense i get like 7 bars out of 8 rather than 1 out of 4. seriously it is almost ALWAYS 1 bar and it drops to 1x a lot! its never faster than about 125kb/s on a speedtest no matter where i am. its almost like theres a governor bogging it down
ALSO: ive flashed gingerbread roms galore, all the same issue.
On a AOSP rom the 4 bars are the 4 low bars outta the 6 in sense, so if u see only two bars then ur short 4 which gives u horrible battery. Also kernels play the biggest role in data if u want to believe it or not...
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mic.mayorga said:
oops i thought i posted in q&a, my bad.
and i understand the whole bar ratio but on sense i get like 7 bars out of 8 rather than 1 out of 4. seriously it is almost ALWAYS 1 bar and it drops to 1x a lot! its never faster than about 125kb/s on a speedtest no matter where i am. its almost like theres a governor bogging it down
ALSO: ive flashed gingerbread roms galore, all the same issue.
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I had the same problem until I flashed a Sense rom, re-flashed the newest radio after first boot. Updated the profile then restarted the phone. I then could flash any AOSP rom with no speed problems. But every time i go back to a sense rom I must do that again if I want to go back to AOSP...
I don't know if it will work for you, but it did for me...
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I had the same problem until I flashed a Sense rom, re-flashed the newest radio after first boot. Updated the profile then restarted the phone. I then could flash any AOSP rom with no speed problems. But every time i go back to a sense rom I must do that again if I want to go back to AOSP...
I don't know if it will work for you, but it did for me...
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thanks. i will try that right now actually.
Home>Menu>Settings>Wireless & networks>Mobile networks
Make sure "Data enabled", "International data roaming", and "National data roaming" are checked, and "System select" is on Automatic.
And before you freak out, all of the EVO plans on Sprint have unlimited roaming.
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Home>Menu>Settings>Wireless & networks>Mobile networks
Make sure "Data enabled", "International data roaming", and "National data roaming" are checked, and "System select" is on Automatic.
And before you freak out, all of the EVO plans on Sprint have unlimited roaming.
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hahahahaaha thanks i already know all that. and yes its all checked.
well it seems that the radio flash and updating the profile worked some magic. speeds are up above 700kbps
EDIT: nope. back to horrible speeds jk
can i get some feedback from more CM users please? this is so confusing
I had the same problem on cm6. Still don't understand why but I'm sticking with a sense rom. I get the best results on myns roms. Fresh was almost just as bad as cm6 as far as speeds go. Kinda weird imo. Maybe someone can explain?
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If I had to guess, its due to the fact most sense based roms have the carrier spyware built in. (ksoftiq I think is the process name)
But, thats just a guess, I'm probably wrong.
I have the same issue with cm6 and the latest gb asop roms. Not with the display of the bars, but on asop roms only at my work I will bounce between 1x and 3g. I will lose data, then go to 1x, then back to 3g constantly. When holding, the signal isnt too bad, but it is almost as if the phone cannot pick between towers or something. I have tried multiple radio/pri combos and such and have no solution. Also tired switching back to sense and updated profile and prl.
Edit: Could it also be location based? This only happens at work in Burbank, CA. Just about everywhere else I am around LA I do not have this problem.
I suffered from this on cm. On gb I get great speeds for a while then it will act crazy and get slow. I reboot and it goes back to being fast again.
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if u ever notice some of those extra processes running in the background of sense like IQRD or IQ agent for example... i believe some of those are qualcomm based programs that help ensure good data transfer speeds. And it's funny that we all hated sense because of those extra background processes that seem to slow the whole system down but some of them are actually helping to keep data speeds up in sense roms. Obviously in AOSP those processes are not present therefore speeds arent always as reliable and may drop in and out. Im just speculating on this and have no concrete proof but i did read up on one of the processes and it points to qualcomm's cdma based technology development so im assuming there is a correlation.
I just tried connecting to my Wifi at work...and I have really low signal...meanwhile, my Nook Color has full bars...anyone else having this problem? Was running CM7RC4 updated to CM7 Final...still same thing...
Yeah, I've noticed the same thing while running CM7. I was on stock Sense before and was getting really strong Wi-Fi signals. Then after going through CM7 nightlies, RC's, and now I'm on CM7 Final I am still getting quite weak signal strength.
Now the trade off is that I get much better battery life from CM7 than from Sense. So I'm okay with it...
Really? No one else?
I've been *****ing about this and no one responds to me like I'm crazy. Cm7 has weak wifi as compared to sense. It seems to even get weaker when I'm holding it with my left hand. When I hold with my right hand it boost right back up. This has been a problem since cm6 but like I said people think I'm *****ing; I know they're aware of this but I guess they can't explain why sense has better wifi reception/performance.
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Yeah...I get the same thing man...but it's weird...my Nook Color running CM7 doesn't do it...
I switch back and forth from MIUI to MikFroyo pretty often. Although WiFi and 3G show stronger signals in Sense, the actual performance/reception is the same. I think AOSP signal strength indicators are more true to life...and Sense pads the numbers. Download Real Signal and test it...dBs are the same no matter what ROM you're on.
My Wifi Drops
I've noticed a similar issue, the AOSP ROMs do have a sightly different number of "bars" for 2g/3g/voice, and I can still make and receive calls when it says I have service.
But my wifi (as many others) does seem to suffer, I actually lose connection some places in my house, where previously running a Sense ROM I did not. Happens at work as well. I did read in another thread other people confirming that the wifi drivers in AOSP are not as good as the sense ones, in addition the GPS drivers seem to have issues as well. No one seems to know why yet, just that it happens. I haven't confirmed dBm levels between the two, but I will probably do that tonight.
RavenII said:
I just tried connecting to my Wifi at work...and I have really low signal...meanwhile, my Nook Color has full bars...anyone else having this problem? Was running CM7RC4 updated to CM7 Final...still same thing...
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yep. seeing the same thing.. I can barely see the networks around me.. -m
was there ever a fix for this issue
There is a freedom patch which fixes this.
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There is a freedom patch which fixes this.
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Link, please?
I don't have a link because I used ROM Manager to download it. ROM Manager is nice and I am pretty sure you can download this patch with the free version.
Or google Aggressive-Freedom-v0.8.5-UNIVERSAL-signed.zip
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My 3g has not been running much. It has been switching to 1x. What should the new updates be now radio updates? I live in KS and I think the issue is I need to update radios
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Any ideas
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mine was doing the alot too but i flashed the newest radios as of 07/04/2011 and it stopped going into 1x alot
I started having this problem recently as well, I live in the Boston area. I believe I have the latest radios, 2.15.00.05.02. I had been running the stock rooted rom, which only shows a 3G icon regardless of actual connection speed. I noticed that when I flashed the Synergy Sense 3.0 ROM that my phone was sitting in 1x most of the time. I tried flashing Deck's ASOP 1.2.1 and was seeing the same speed issues. I ran a Speed Test on each of the ROMs and was getting less than 100kbps. I'm currently back on the stock rooted ROM while I try to debug the speed issues.
I was just about to post a thread on this as well because it is frustrating me a lot. when i first got the phone i was full bars every where and now , especially after rooting , I have terrible signal and most times cant load web pages or download from market unless im on wifi
I have 2.15.00.09.01 radio is that the newest
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An update on my situation. My 3G magically started working again last night. I think my 3G issue may have been related to the SMS/data outage that hit the Sprint network in the past 48 hours.
What data outage did they have
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All i was aware of was an sms - mms outage like he said but im still experiencing these issues. It now seems to only be certain webpages. I can't make any google searches and some websites will only load once in a great while.
Yeah I'm still having 1x issues. It sucks. So what is the new radio or a d l link for it would be great
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Check my sig for radio downloads. I am currently on the newest radios, and everything works perfectly for me.
Flash a rooted Sense ROM, based on the Evo (this disqualifies MikG, Director's Cut, Synergy and other Sense 2.1 ROMs, because those are based on the Evo Shift (I've had issues with Shift-based ROMs not reactivating)
Go into EPST (Dial ##3282#, Choose edit mode), enter your MSL code (download and use MSL Reader from the Market to get it), Data Profile, hit the menu button and choose restore. Just sit there, your phone will reboot and everything will go back to default. This should fix your 3G issue.
Then, just wipe everything and flash your favorite ROM!
I've tried about many ROM's such as miui, CM7, decks, etc.... I've had no luck, the wifi is just so horrible in many places where in a sense ROM I'd have perfect wifi or good, compared to poor wifi disconnecting after a while.
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I use CM7 and have absolutely no problem with my wifi. Have you tried CM7? If so, have you tried anything else?
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I use CM7 and have absolutely no problem with my wifi. Have you tried CM7? If so, have you tried anything else?
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Yeah I've tried it just bit ago and the past days as well but I'm sure it isn't a hardware issue because on nrg 3.5 rom from Nov18 my wifi works perfect where I would I couldn't get wifi signal at all on cm.
The problem is that sense doesn't show the right signal. Compare the speeds and you'll see what I mean
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Crossrocker said:
The problem is that sense doesn't show the right signal. Compare the speeds and you'll see what I mean
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It has nothing to do with speed, please read what I said... I lose signal on aosp ROM's on common areas that I get nearly excellent coverage in, note I tested this with airplane mode on to ensure my wifi doesn't disconnect and switch to 3G. A couple of other others on the miui thread have also said that same.
I'm using the new aosp ROM ice cream sandwich for my phone and wifi works like a charm. Using it now
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xyience said:
I'm using the new aosp ROM ice cream sandwich for my phone and wifi works like a charm. Using it now
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I'm guessing it has a new kernel? I will flash it tomorrow to see how it works, just to clarify, you are talking about the alpha build right?
CaliBoyPhillip said:
It has nothing to do with speed, please read what I said... I lose signal on aosp ROM's on common areas that I get nearly excellent coverage in, note I tested this with airplane mode on to ensure my wifi doesn't disconnect and switch to 3G. A couple of other others on the miui thread have also said that same.
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I don't think you understand what I said. Sense shows the wrong wifi signal. It shows 3 bars for me while aosp shows 1. Aosp shows true signal because I am far from the router
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702
Are you using the included kernel or flashing custom ones? While your signal may show lower, you shouldn't notice a drop in actual connectivity. Flashing an incompatible kernel, like a Sense kernel, can mess up your wifi.
I'm on MIUI right now showing a full wifi signal. I haven't used Sense in a very long time, but I don't remember getting better wifi reception while I was using it. I'm using Tiamat right now, maybe try a different kernel next time you flash AOSP and see if that helps. There are also a few tweaks you can do to help with your wifi signal, like changing the wifi scan interval in build.prop, but I haven't actually done anything like that since my signal is fine.
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plainjane said:
Are you using the included kernel or flashing custom ones? While your signal may show lower, you shouldn't notice a drop in actual connectivity. Flashing an incompatible kernel, like a Sense kernel, can mess up your wifi.
I'm on MIUI right now showing a full wifi signal. I haven't used Sense in a very long time, but I don't remember getting better wifi reception while I was using it. I'm using Tiamat right now, maybe try a different kernel next time you flash AOSP and see if that helps. There are also a few tweaks you can do to help with your wifi signal, like changing the wifi scan interval in build.prop, but I haven't actually done anything like that since my signal is fine.
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I've been sticking to the stock kernel that the ROM's have and savaged. I'll give the tiamat kernel a try with miui, what Tiamat version are you using so I can try it if not maybe I'll try getting a phone replacement to see if I might have a fault or evil mojo evo that hates aosp lol! hardware 004 here.
CaliBoyPhillip said:
I've been sticking to the stock kernel that the ROM's have and savaged. I'll give the tiamat kernel a try with miui, what Tiamat version are you using so I can try it if not maybe I'll try getting a phone replacement to see if I might have a fault or evil mojo evo that hates aosp lol! hardware 004 here.
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I've heard that 004s can be problematic, I have a 003 and only get issues when I go a while without wiping fully. I'm using 4.1.0 right now, start there and maybe try other versions if you want. I ran SZ for a while and it started off smooth but eventually got laggy and unresponsive at times despite anything I would do (wiping caches, etc). Switched back to Tiamat and all has been working well since.
Give it a go, if it doesn't work for you then maybe it's some kind of hardware issue. Just to be sure, do a full wipe and try to avoid restoring anything unless you absolutely have to - definitely don't restore system data. Unfortunately you can't take your phone in to Sprint and get a replacement since your wifi is dodgy on AOSP. If it happened on stock then you might have a case.
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plainjane said:
I've heard that 004s can be problematic, I have a 003 and only get issues when I go a while without wiping fully. I'm using 4.1.0 right now, start there and maybe try other versions if you want. I ran SZ for a while and it started off smooth but eventually got laggy and unresponsive at times despite anything I would do (wiping caches, etc). Switched back to Tiamat and all has been working well since.
Give it a go, if it doesn't work for you then maybe it's some kind of hardware issue. Just to be sure, do a full wipe and try to avoid restoring anything unless you absolutely have to - definitely don't restore system data. Unfortunately you can't take your phone in to Sprint and get a replacement since your wifi is dodgy on AOSP. If it happened on stock then you might have a case.
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I've been using the tiamat for now and it seems more stable on wifi, funny though, the wifi seemed bad on the default miui kernel. I also moved my router to a higher place on a shevel with nothing steel or bad around it. Oh and don't worry my local sprint store in Los angeles is a big time Hispanic corporate... they replace devices for any complaining here to avoid issues with the people lol! I got to love it.
Edit: you are leet according to your post count ahaha.
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CaliBoyPhillip said:
I've tried about many ROM's such as miui, CM7, decks, etc.... I've had no luck, the wifi is just so horrible in many places where in a sense ROM I'd have perfect wifi or good, compared to poor wifi disconnecting after a while.
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i used to have a problem like this, click in the link in my sig and go to the Q&A section in it and follow the steps on how to fix the wifi issue. if you have any questions or anything feel free to post it in that thread. hope i helped ^_^
Hello there,
I've been having this issue with the 4g/wimax feature for a long time and I'm not too sure if it's just me or anyone else, but perhaps someone can help me. When I'm using a sense rom (evo classic, synergy, etc), my 4g seems to stay on without dropping. The signals are all good, even when it's on its weakest bar, I am still connected. However, every time I use evo deck 1.3 stable/1.3d, my 4g seems to drop like crazy. The signals become weak and I often find myself disconnecting online. It becomes annoying whenever I'm browsing and would have to constantly refresh.
I like sense roms and all, but I prefer aosp due to the speed and performance. I haven't tested any other aosp roms yet, but I know I like evo deck do to everything being a clean install. I would love it if someone has a 4g fix for me or can recommend me a good sense/aosp rom.
Thank you.
Same issues here with the same ROMs actually. Would love to see an answer. Thanks.
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Unfortunately, its the AOSP kernels. There's nothing you could do other than go back to a sense rom.
Its the exact same reason why data transfer via USB cable to the sdcard is sooooo slow.
I had the same dilemma and ultimately, I hate sense I rather deal with these two main issues.
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There's a fix for it if you look around it involves editing a few files to change the scan and disconnect intervals which allows it to scan faster + take longer to disconnect so it drops less. Basically it will refresh itself in the background for you
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Ah I guess ill switch back to sense.
And I already have that tweak where I can edit the wimax values and 3g values. Still same thing. I guess its the aosp kernal.
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