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App2SD...????????????????

Sorry Guys if am asking this Question here....i have searched full XDA Forum for this ....got ans too but still have confusions.....
1st of all wanna know what is App2SD....Hope its the application to transfer all your application installation to SD card....
2nd i have tried several methods listed here in forum...but no result.....SD card is having full space and phone memory is just 50 MB left.....
Tried Defrost application and selected all installation to external media....(Hopefully this is the correct method...but didn't figured out for me yet....)
Tried to give EXT3 partition to SD of 512 MB...but here i don't know the full procedure and really confused how to go about.....
Tried for Froyo ROM's as i believe its having inbuilt capability to install all app to SD card....No result yet....
I requet all my frnds here to just giude me to the right path...i am sure i will do the rest ..... really confused with a lot of explanation given in forum....
One more small help needed...i need to have HTC Default dialer application as some of the ROM has removed it with some other application....
Waiting for reply....

pranavd1980 said:
Sorry Guys if am asking this Question here....i have searched full XDA Forum for this ....got ans too but still have confusions.....
1st of all wanna know what is App2SD....Hope its the application to transfer all your application installation to SD card....
2nd i have tried several methods listed here in forum...but no result.....SD card is having full space and phone memory is just 50 MB left.....
Tried Defrost application and selected all installation to external media....(Hopefully this is the correct method...but didn't figured out for me yet....)
Tried to give EXT3 partition to SD of 512 MB...but here i don't know the full procedure and really confused how to go about.....
Tried for Froyo ROM's as i believe its having inbuilt capability to install all app to SD card....No result yet....
I requet all my frnds here to just giude me to the right path...i am sure i will do the rest ..... really confused with a lot of explanation given in forum....
One more small help needed...i need to have HTC Default dialer application as some of the ROM has removed it with some other application....
Waiting for reply....
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Someone please guide me........please

Instead of bumping your thread have you tried looking at the thread of the chef released rom for your phone as you might realise that others have same issue with the rom or not. I did a quick search of forums and i managed to find the answers within seconds.
We cant support your rom as we dont know what you are using / version and questions regarding that rom need to be posted in the correct forum thread

A|ex said:
Instead of bumping your thread have you tried looking at the thread of the chef released rom for your phone as you might realise that others have same issue with the rom or not. I did a quick search of forums and i managed to find the answers within seconds.
We cant support your rom as we dont know what you are using / version and questions regarding that rom need to be posted in the correct forum thread
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Sorry M8...But i am really confused with several ROM's and Methods listed here...
I will follow your instructions in future....Sorry Again....

Different roms work differently and you really need to try one, then ask about it in the chefs rom thread and if you dont like try another. Swapping roms and trying to use the same instructions on each may not work so you are only confusing yourself.

A|ex said:
Different roms work differently and you really need to try one, then ask about it in the chefs rom thread and if you dont like try another. Swapping roms and trying to use the same instructions on each may not work so you are only confusing yourself.
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Thanks Again.....

A2SD is indeed moving apps to the external memory. A lot of custom roms have it. It requires an EXT partition on your memorycard, an easy way to do that is to get rom manager from market
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judging by your post, you have already rooted your phone
here's an example how to do it with Official Froyo HTC Sense ROM v1.0c, which has built in old A2SD. I think it should work
- backup apps and system data with Titanium Backup Donate
- copy sd card content to pc in disk drive mode (by doing this, you will also copy your backups)
- download rom, radio and put them in root folder of your sd card
- you need to have some sort of recovery (whether it's update.zip in root, or permanent recovery - it's your choice)
- say a little prayer
- enter hboot -> recovery
- wipe all alvailable options (it depends on your current settings): data, cache, davlik cache, ext
- flash radio, it will ask for you to reboot from recovery, do it, it will restart few times, don't interrupt process of instalation.
- flash rom
-after you finish it, don't reboot, instead partition sd card using standard options: swap 0, ext2 512, fat32 rest, sd: ext2 to ext3 (this will format and partition your sd card, you will loose it's content
- reboot your phone, it will last longer than usual
- copy your sd card content from pc back to sd
- install titanium backup donate and restore system data and apps, it should force apps you previously had installed to sd
- reboot phone to finish restore
- install quick system info and check if your A2SD storage is partialy filled with data
-you should have your current apps and settings with A2SD enabled

Finally did it today with ROM manager huh......
Thanking all for support...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Some Q's about Desire Setup & others

Hi Mates,
I have owned my Desire for 2 weeks and it is the first Android device i have had. I have done a lot of searching the www and XDA for answers to the following questions but not come across anything yet. Please could some of you help me out with answers to the following questions:
1) APN & MMS settings - Is there no automatic method of having these settings detected from the SIM card and operator? I find it hard to believe that with Android we have to manually do the settings!
2) I have saved on my SD card Root the file PB99IMG.zip but to prevent it from being read everytime i try to go in to Bootloader mode, i changed the name to PPB99IMG.zip so now it is ignored by the Bootloader. My question is, if i wanted to restore this ROM file can it be done without renaming it to the standard protocol (PB99IMG.zip) can i use the Recovery menu to restore .zip? If so does it give the exact same result that it would if run from Bootloader?
3) I have Titanium Back up Pro version installed. it allows almost any of the installed applications to be moved to the SD card. Are there any that should NOT be moved to SD card, such as Titanium itself, RomManager, Call blockers or Profile applications etc etc?
4) I have formatted my 16GB SD in to one Fat32 primary partion of 14GB and created another Primary partion ext4 of 2GB. I'm using a standard official ROM 2.29.405.5 which has been Rooted using UnRevoke 3.22 which I think installed CWM Recovery. So my question is does the standard ROM make use of the Ext4 partion or only Custom ROMS and is this the best / correct Ext to have used?
5) Apart from the first Boot loop that i got after my very first NAND back up using CWM (just needed to restore the back up that it made to recover it) I have not had any issues. But it could not format and partion my SD I had to do that manually using GParted with puppy Lynix. Also i do not have S-Off either. Should unrevoke 3.22 give me S-Off or is that another process such as AlphRev? Is there a process that only give S-Off without changing the Recovery mode?
6) I can not seem to send e-mail from Hotmail using the built in Sense mail application. anyone have a solution for that and also how to get all the mails from various accounts delivered to a single Inbox? I have 1 x Hotmail and 2 x Gmail accounts and whilst they are all selectable from the account picker they are not combined in the Inbox. I'm currently using TouchDown 2.0 for a fully syncronised Hotmail account due to the built in mail client not being syncronised with the Web accounts. Anyone give any advise about a better set up using Sense functions?
I think thats about it for now. Thanx for anyone who can answer any of the above, I love this phone and it is gona lead to trouble with me and the wife!
Happy new year to you all!!

angusc said:
Hi Mates,
I have owned my Desire for 2 weeks and it is the first Android device i have had. I have done a lot of searching the www and XDA for answers to the following questions but not come across anything yet. Please could some of you help me out with answers to the following questions:
1) APN & MMS settings - Is there no automatic method of having these settings detected from the SIM card and operator? I find it hard to believe that with Android we have to manually do the settings!
2) I have saved on my SD card Root the file PB99IMG.zip but to prevent it from being read everytime i try to go in to Bootloader mode, i changed the name to PPB99IMG.zip so now it is ignored by the Bootloader. My question is, if i wanted to restore this ROM file can it be done without renaming it to the standard protocol (PB99IMG.zip) can i use the Recovery menu to restore .zip? If so does it give the exact same result that it would if run from Bootloader?
3) I have Titanium Back up Pro version installed. it allows almost any of the installed applications to be moved to the SD card. Are there any that should NOT be moved to SD card, such as Titanium itself, RomManager, Call blockers or Profile applications etc etc?
4) I have formatted my 16GB SD in to one Fat32 primary partion of 14GB and created another Primary partion ext4 of 2GB. I'm using a standard official ROM 2.29.405.5 which has been Rooted using UnRevoke 3.22 which I think installed CWM Recovery. So my question is does the standard ROM make use of the Ext4 partion or only Custom ROMS and is this the best / correct Ext to have used?
5) Apart from the first Boot loop that i got after my very first NAND back up using CWM (just needed to restore the back up that it made to recover it) I have not had any issues. But it could not format and partion my SD I had to do that manually using GParted with puppy Lynix. Also i do not have S-Off either. Should unrevoke 3.22 give me S-Off or is that another process such as AlphRev? Is there a process that only give S-Off without changing the Recovery mode?
6) I can not seem to send e-mail from Hotmail using the built in Sense mail application. anyone have a solution for that and also how to get all the mails from various accounts delivered to a single Inbox? I have 1 x Hotmail and 2 x Gmail accounts and whilst they are all selectable from the account picker they are not combined in the Inbox. I'm currently using TouchDown 2.0 for a fully syncronised Hotmail account due to the built in mail client not being syncronised with the Web accounts. Anyone give any advise about a better set up using Sense functions?
I think thats about it for now. Thanx for anyone who can answer any of the above, I love this phone and it is gona lead to trouble with me and the wife!
Happy new year to you all!!
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1. Use APN Backup and Restore App. Desire Stock Rom for the region does automatically have APNs. But I've not seen them autodetect on rooted Roms.
2. You cant use rooted recovery to flash it. File name has to be same. Why should you have to keep it on the card. Keep it on a CD/Hard drive. Copy it to goldcard only when needed. When you need it, use the card on a PC to rename it. Also you can run the RUU as exe file from Windows
3. Widgets shouldnt be moved. System apps shouldnt.
4. Froyo Rom (Stock rooted) cant use it. Use a custom A2SD+ rom /Data2ext rom. Ext2 has maximum compatibilty. ext4 is the best but with limited support. ext3 is slower than both.
5. Alpharev gives S-Off. Unrevoked for desire doesnt. Rooting automatically puts the recovery on it. You need it for most basic purposes, including the process of S-Off
6. No idea.

Thanx for your fast reply DroidZone!!
I'm assuming that "APN Backup and Restore App" only works if you already have the APN and MMS settings installed?
Regarding the APN and MMS settings....so do you know which file the Regional settings are saved in? And would it be possibly in theory to collect this info from all the Regional ROMS and compile a single file that would allow Auto set up for any Region or country being visited?
My old Windows phone used to be the same with manual settings being required but in later WM6.5.5 relaeses this was all done automatically no mater i was in Nigeria, UK or China. It would be nice to have that flexability for Android.

angusc said:
Thanx for your fast reply DroidZone!!
I'm assuming that "APN Backup and Restore App" only works if you already have the APN and MMS settings installed?
Regarding the APN and MMS settings....so do you know which file the Regional settings are saved in? And would it be possibly in theory to collect this info from all the Regional ROMS and compile a single file that would allow Auto set up for any Region or country being visited?
My old Windows phone used to be the same with manual settings being required but in later WM6.5.5 relaeses this was all done automatically no mater i was in Nigeria, UK or China. It would be nice to have that flexability for Android.
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True you already need the settings. But some custom Roms (I forgot which one. Check Leedroid's page on XDA) have a huge list of APNs which come built in. But the better solution is to ask your service provider for the APN settings intially and then backup with this app.It's not one file, so it cant just be copied and imported. This app is the best solution. As you learn about roms, you will learn how to incorporate this app into your rom so that it will autosinstall.

By the way how to send mms? I did not see mms option when creating messages from the sms app.
Sent from my HTC Desire

[Q] Moving EVERYTHING to SDcard or just "a part" ??

Hey Guys! Im new on this forum (even though i have made this account some time ago, i never used it )
So.. i just Rooted my HTC Desire, which i've been so afraid of. But now i had to to it regarding the lack of SD-card installing.. BUT! now i installed this neat app called something like "app2sd" which unlocks the installing to SD-card, but it just unlocks the feature like the FroYo update unlocked, just on some other apps?
So my question is.. CAN i move the WHOLE app to my SD-Card, and can i do it without flashing a custom rom or whatever? (which i am afraid of doing) because i want some of those GAMELOFT apps and the main app does still fill up some space unfortunately..
I hope you get what i'm saying (im not the best at english, but im trying )
If you didnt understand me, and want to help me, just tell me and ill try slicing it in pieces
Thanks in advance!
- Mathias

Well the froyo a2sd do in fact move the full app. It just leaves data and dalvik cache behind on /data. But to answer your question, yes it is possible, but the best implementations of a2sd is found in the custom roms. Those are also a natural extend, when you have rooted your phone. And btw. there is no risk involved in flashing a custom rom at all. The risky part is the root process itself.
If you want proper a2sd, you must go about it in the following steps:
1. backup all files on you sd-card to your computer
2. install rom manager
3. in rom manager choose to partition your sd-card. Just pick 512 for ext, 0 for swap and the rest for fat32
4. Move all your stuff back to the sd-card, which should now show up as being 512 mb smaller
5. Pick a custom rom and download the zip file like leedroid, if you like the stock look(or find a flashable zip containing the files for a2sd)
6. backup anything necessary and flash the zip through recovery
edit: and btw. don't excuse your english. It's not bad compared to many other people on this board

mortenmhp said:
Well the froyo a2sd do in fact move the full app. It just leaves data and dalvik cache behind on /data. But to answer your question, yes it should be possible, but the best implementations of a2sd is found in the custom roms. Those are also a natural extend, when you have rooted your phone. And btw. there is no risk involved in flashing a custom rom at all. The risky part is the root process itself.
If you want proper a2sd, you must go about it in the following steps:
1. backup all files on you sd-card to your computer
2. install rom manager
3. in rom manager choose to partition your sd-card. Just pick 512 for ext, 0 for swap and the rest for fat32
4. Move all your stuff back to the sd-card, which should now show up as being 512 mb smaller
5. Pick a custom rom and download the zip file like leedroid, if you like the stock look(or find a flashable zip containing the files for a2sd)
6. backup anything necessary and flash the zip through recovery
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Thanks for the fast answer!
Well its not for breaking my phone im afraid of using custom ROM, my problem is that theres always some issues, and i've heard something about the RADIO or some stuff??
But if theres a custom ROM based on the FroYo which allows me to move EVERYTHING from my internal to external, which would you recommend, and wheres a good spot to find alot of those roms?
By the way, i also want them in danish language!

Well as for stability, those completely based on the stock roms(leedroid) are just as stable as the htc-ones. And if you are already on froyo, updating the radio shouldn't be necessary. And the only roms without danish language on here is the one labeled miui(some chinese custom rom) btw. im danish myself.
But the way you want to completely move /data to /sd-ext is called data2ext, and i personally wouldn't recommend it, as everything gets kind of laggy in my experience. This is due to the sd-card being much slower in read/write rates than the nand chip, so keep as much as possible internal without filling it up. I would recommend a2sd+ instead, which should give you plenty of space for apps as well
A great rom build on std. htc with a2sd+ is leedroid as already mentioned or auraxtsense, if you want a different theme.

Yea I see but let's keep it English as some people might find it useful :b
But now I ran into another problem .. which is, that I know used that app2sd unlocker and now I can't put widgets on my homescreen from the apps? Like handcent sms if you know it?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Yes that is because the froyo a2sd solution stores the apps on the fat32 partition which is not initialized before late in the bootprocess meaning the apps is not accessible when widgets are loaded. So using froyo a2sd you should keep apps with widgets on internal.
But with a2sd+ on leedroid or a similar Rom this won't be a problem as the ext partition is initialized early in the boot process. So go with one of the custom roms. That would be my recommendation

Alright then.. but is my data from my apps stored on my sdcard? Like I have "3gwatchdog", and it has stored all of my data transfers. Is that saved when I back up my sdcard and just install the program on my custom Rom?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

No, data from apps is still stored on the internal memory
The ONLY way to get it all onto the SD card is to use a custom ROM which includes Data2SD - but it's still a bit buggy and can lead to a quicker death of your SD card

So theres no way, that I can save my stats from my apps, so I can restore them on my custom Rom??
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

mathiasb2 said:
So theres no way, that I can save my stats from my apps, so I can restore them on my custom Rom??
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Titanium backup.

TheGhost1233 said:
Titanium backup.
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Thanks for telling me about that app! But my problem as I see it now, is that when I wanna use Titanium backup, I do need "busybox" and busybox fails when I try to install it? On the market it also says that HTC Desire is not supported?
- what am I supposed to do then?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

[Q] Link2SD

I tried to figure this out by skimming the Link2SD topic, but seeing that there were 202 pages intimidated me. I have a few simple quick questions.
1. Does Link2SD work with Android 2.3.3 or is it only for older versions of Android?
2. If I have previously moved things to SD using the native Apps2SD support, do I have to uninstall them before I use Link2SD?
3. If the answer to the above is No, is there a performance hit in not doing so?
4. Does Link2SD require an unlocked bootloader?
5. Does it work on the rooted Verizon Xperia Play running the stock ROM?
I think that's it. I'm going to probably go ahead and experiment with the program anyway, but if someone can shortcut the process by answering these questions, that would be a big help!
Thanks!

netizenmt said:
I tried to figure this out by skimming the Link2SD topic, but seeing that there were 202 pages intimidated me. I have a few simple quick questions.
1. Does Link2SD work with Android 2.3.3 or is it only for older versions of Android?
2. If I have previously moved things to SD using the native Apps2SD support, do I have to uninstall them before I use Link2SD?
3. If the answer to the above is No, is there a performance hit in not doing so?
4. Does Link2SD require an unlocked bootloader?
5. Does it work on the rooted Verizon Xperia Play running the stock ROM?
I think that's it. I'm going to probably go ahead and experiment with the program anyway, but if someone can shortcut the process by answering these questions, that would be a big help!
Thanks!
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EDIT:
1. YES - works on 2.3.3
2. NO I didn't have to uninstall them, just link them.
3. No but some programs may need to be uninstalled and reinstalled before they work. And some apparently don't like being linked.
4. Apparently not.
5. Yes, it appears to.

netizenmt said:
I tried to figure this out by skimming the Link2SD topic, but seeing that there were 202 pages intimidated me. I have a few simple quick questions.
1. Does Link2SD work with Android 2.3.3 or is it only for older versions of Android?
2. If I have previously moved things to SD using the native Apps2SD support, do I have to uninstall them before I use Link2SD?
3. If the answer to the above is No, is there a performance hit in not doing so?
4. Does Link2SD require an unlocked bootloader?
5. Does it work on the rooted Verizon Xperia Play running the stock ROM?
I think that's it. I'm going to probably go ahead and experiment with the program anyway, but if someone can shortcut the process by answering these questions, that would be a big help!
Thanks!
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1) Yes
2) No
3) No
4) No (just root)
5) Yes

I want to set up a partition on my SD card so I'll have to format the card first, so all most of my apps will be half deleted because I have used app2sd on them. If I copy the current contents of my SD to my PC and then copy it back after I've created the partition, will everything be ok ?.

mug2k said:
I want to set up a partition on my SD card so I'll have to format the card first, so all most of my apps will be half deleted because I have used app2sd on them. If I copy the current contents of my SD to my PC and then copy it back after I've created the partition, will everything be ok ?.
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Yep thats the best way
Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk

mug2k said:
I want to set up a partition on my SD card so I'll have to format the card first, so all most of my apps will be half deleted because I have used app2sd on them. If I copy the current contents of my SD to my PC and then copy it back after I've created the partition, will everything be ok ?.
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I resized mine instead of formatting. This is the guide I used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254987

[Q] Deleting old app data

Hi there.
I've used two RUU in the last year on my DHD. After a phone restart, I go straight to the Marketplace to redownload the apps I had before using the RUU.
Some of the apps don't automatically download, and I can't remember them all so there's probably some old applications and associated data on there.
The SD card is getting full so I was wondering if there was an app out there I could use to remove all app data except that of apps which are currently installed.
I'm running a stock DHD on the latest 2.3.5 ROM with Sense 3.0.
Thanks for your help!

Easiest way I find personally...
Back up your contact list, photos, music, ring tones and the settings files on the main programs you can remember - Even better, use the HTC program
Format the card.
Plug it into the phone and let it load it's file system and then make a back up of that on your PC for future use. Just remember to back up your new contacts, photos etc...

Go to recovery or 4ext / CWM and delete Dalvik
EDIT: Later you can delete them one by one those which you don't use

I think SD maid can do that... I've heard it works pretty good.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

On SD card there is directory called \Android\. There are apps data.

Flacid Monkey said:
Easiest way I find personally...
Back up your contact list, photos, music, ring tones and the settings files on the main programs you can remember - Even better, use the HTC program
Format the card.
Plug it into the phone and let it load it's file system and then make a back up of that on your PC for future use. Just remember to back up your new contacts, photos etc...
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Best and safest way.

I got a question about filesystem on SD card.
If you format it ext4 - how is it speed-wise? Actually what are main advantages?
And can windows7 then normally recognize "disk drive"?