So this may be a dumb question but... If I watch a netflix movie on my phone as I normally would, would that be the same as if I tether to my ps3 and watch netflix on there? I am inclined to say it is but curious.
That's a yes and a no answer.... 4G network? have you ever tried using an HDMI cable between your phone to output it to a TV? The resolution needed for your phone requires 1/16 the total size of a full HD stream for a larger TV. If there is an option on your evo for streaming quality... then yes it could be the same. But in normal use if Netflix does their job right, then it will be MUCH less quality than a ps3 stream. There isn't enough bandwidth on our 3G network to get a real stream for an HD picture. even if no one else is using the 3G network, it is only like 2M. 4G isn't much better...
if you're on wifi, remember your phone can only handle so much anyway.
I didn't answer your question, but at least you're better educated.
If you think about it, it's like a copy of a copy. The quality will deteriorate as you move from one medium to the next
they have to compress it to get it to stream to your phone. compress compress compress.
Yep, if you use netflix on the ps3, its trying to get a full 1080p picture, which requires at least 6mbps. Watching on the phone requires less than 1mbps.
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I spend a lot of time towing my wifes horse trailer around so to keep an eye on whats going on back there and to help reversing I bought 4 wireless cameras and a receiver/screen unit. Except now the dash is getting a bit cramed with screen/phone/satnav.
I've got the satnav onto the phone now (Navmii) and was wondering if there's a way of getting the camera feeds onto the phones screen as well.
They all broadcast on variations of the 2.4Ghz frequency so I'm guessing that a wifi/BT enabled device should have the hardware involved in receiving a signal.
Anyone care to comment.
Cheers all
Jon
2.4Ghz is just the spectrum. It won't be possible to recieve video without some extra hardware.
Probably the simplest solution getting that video on your phone (which isn't simple at all) would be to set up an in-vehicle computer with some AV jacks, run the video to that, and then pipe the video over wifi to your phone. You'd get video, but it would be delayed based on various factors.
So, yes, you can do it, but it's such a pain that you'd be better off sacrificing the extra dashboard real estate.
I bought the more expensive mhl cable and when I connect to any TV at all when I stream nextflix or play any movie the quality is horrible. Its hard to even make out what's going on. Is there a rom or something to fix this?
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hustlerman said:
I bought the more expensive mhl cable and when I connect to any TV at all when I stream nextflix or play any movie the quality is horrible. Its hard to even make out what's going on. Is there a rom or something to fix this?
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try and stream a hq quality youtube video and see what pic is like. ive noticed most time trying stream netflix the quality of netflix is causing it to give bad pic.
I tried it. It looks good only with HQ YouTube. Is there anyway to get normal streaming videos or Netflix to look good. I saw a YouTube video were a guys gs2 looked perfect with all streaming
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well there are some hd movies on netflix or a movie from market will both look good idk about if there way get reg netflix to look good i havent seen it done.
a lot of shows on the the netflix app is like 480p at best thats why when shown on your 720p-1080p tv it would look very uhh.. bad. You probably need to find shows and movies at higher resolution for it to look crisp.
Well it definitely isn't showing in 480 . Its so horrible I can't even make out faces. There has to be something wrong. Cause the cable is useless
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Well it definitely isn't showing in 480 . Its so horrible I can't even make out faces. There has to be something wrong. Cause the cable is useless
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obviously if viewing hq youtube videos produces a good pic then the problem lies within the netflix app itself and its lower quality being streamed. the cable is serving its purpose you just need to stream hd quality video
netflix sucks on my phone
I notice this as well and if you look very closely the same distortion can be seen on the phone as well. I hope we get a better netflix app. I can't believe my wii gets better picture than this great phone. This totally sucks.
Netflix just needs to get it together and make there **** all hd...no reason y I should have to watch low quality picture on phone or streaming on my flat screen
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It has nothing to do with this or your NHL HDMI converter. Its more then likely the sync issue between your TV and output of signal from your phone. I can almost assume your outputting to a plasma? Which has a higher refresh rate then a LCD has, this is the problem. Your phone can't satisfy the output request of the plasma, in other words it can't keep up. On a LCD it would look pretty good.
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It has nothing to do with this or your NHL HDMI converter. Its more then likely the sync issue between your TV and output of signal from your phone. I can almost assume your outputting to a plasma? Which has a higher refresh rate then a LCD has, this is the problem. Your phone can't satisfy the output request of the plasma, in other words it can't keep up. On a LCD it would look pretty good.
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I believe his "blurriness" is referring to the resolution and not the refresh rate. The refresh rate translate to the smoothness and clarity of movements on the screen. I can see what you think he meant by the blurriness, but ultimately, the resolution on netflix is too low to be projected with clarity on a 1080 lcd/plasma screen.
and damn 4.5 years on here with no thanks.. here is one.
+1 - Teo032, there's your thanks.
Anyway, Netflix automaticly cuts the quality down if its not streaming on wifi
Remember when Netflix was first released, it was only to a few phones. The dev masters had to develop work arounds and hacks to get the apk to work. Soon Netflix caved (so we think) and made it available to the masses. You don't think the engineering that went into the final development of the app will prevent total streaming from phone to TV? The Netflix apk is for personal use, for your personal phone, not for streaming to some capture software to be pirated off of some torrent web site. Just put yourself in their shoes. To keeps the deals they made with the production companies, that had to appease them somehow. You can't stream HD quality content from your Netflix app on your phone to any TV out there, no matter if its LCD or plasma. They don't want you to. Its only intended to be viewed from your phone.
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People pay Monthly for there Netflix services...you can stream from ps3 to your TV why would it matter that your deciding to use your phone? Either way your paying for the service...bottom line is Netflix is primarily low quality movies...
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ps3 requires a TV, same thing with xbox360. You needs a TV to view Netflix, Hulu+ with game consoles. That's a given. But your smartphone already has a viewable screen. No need to attach any TV. So, they can purposely lower the quality. One of the MAJOR concerns with the movie (old school) studios is piracy. They flawed it from the get go. INTENTIONALLY!
Believe you me! I'll be watching "The Human Centipede" from Netflix on my HD 70" 240hts LCD TV from my phone RIGHT NOW if it can be done. With good quality.
Sorry, but it can't be done.
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Nope I tried on 2 LCD TVs. And no the picture on my phone will always look great while the TV is unviewable. And I can have a megavideo movie playing on my phone that looks excellent when the TV quality is still horrible as well. Is there any app out that may help this problem?
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Found this and it looked like a bargain. £27.75 delivered in white. black one is currently £50 quid. Should be just the job.
Nokia MD-310 Wireless Music Reciever - White
will let you all know how it goes.
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Received my apt x receiver and now the review,
The build quality if the unit is top. It's a gloss finish plastic construction but it's got good weight to it and the button has a nice feel too. The blue light isn't harsh and I'm surprised at how nice it looks in white. I was going to tuck it out of view but now I've got it I don't think I will.
Nfc doesn't work properly with my s3. It detects it but the s3 has it down as an unrecognised tag. I'd guess that there is no industry standard way to get Nfc to ok a bluetooth connection. Press the button for a few seconds, a quick scan and we were paired. Since Nfc only serves to save a few seconds in pairing this won't be a big deal though it is a little annoying that this simple easy just works method of pairing didn't work.
Audio lag? - watched a few minutes of russel howard on iplayer and the audio seems to me to be in time with the video which is great news obviously as it can be used for more than just straight audio streaming. There might be a very slight lag if i was pushed to admit it but I found it more than tolerable. Its a massive improvement on previous iterations of bluetooth.
Sound quality is very good. I didn't play any flacs to test the limits of apt x but I did have a couple of 320kbps mp3s. These sounded rich and clear. I was genuinely surprised by the sparkle and depth. I'm used to bluetooth streaming though though my head unit in the car but this is another level of fidelity. It sounded absolutely great on my nad separates. The other option was a marantz networked dac media played but for now I'm very happy with this indeed. I'd like to hear it side by side to a premium hifi dac. It would have to be astounding in order to convince me to spend more than this though, not because I'm tight or not really bothered about sound quality, but because this offers exceptional value for money and totally surpasses by expectations for audio streaming over bluetooth.
In comparison to a direct line out I would say that bluetooth streaming has a clear edge. This might change with voodoo sound, but still, not bad eh!
£27 quid and the old hifi has been dragged kicking and screaming into 2012 and it sounds pretty damn good to boot!
Thanks for the heads up ordered one:good:
Shame about the NFC but not a biggie.
Same experience
Just bought this MD-310 today, and The NFC tag is not working.. :crying:
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Why did I even bother to buy it, when I did read about you guys's failures too..
Even when paired, the sound quality is ok, but still some gabs now and then..
Got mine this morning, I'll have a play and report back later:good:
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I'm looking at buying one too, it looks like the NFC is set up for a particular app on a Nokia device, that being said, there should be no reason I can't write a simple app for us to install that will recognise that particular tag and set up the connection.
If I get my hands on one of these I'll look into it.
I seem to have a problem with aptx and wifi streaming. Try a youtube video (a hd movie trailer) and it starts to stutter almost immediately. Anyone else get this?
Maybe you should install this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.baggy.play360
Don't know if it works, but give it a try
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I seem to have a problem with aptx and wifi streaming. Try a youtube video (a hd movie trailer) and it starts to stutter almost immediately. Anyone else get this?
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Does this only stutter audio streamed over WiFi when the Bluetooth device is connected or does it do the same when playing through the phone speaker/Jack output? I only ask because I had some real beef with WiFi dropping a reconnecting and this was obviously most notable when streaming.
There is a thread. From what I can surmise gs3 doesn't play well with wideband WiFi routers.I had it on tp link, bt homehub found others through Google but all seem to be wideband. Solutions seem to be changing the settings on your router to 2.4ghz only . I changed the channel to something less crowded to and this seems to have done the trick for me without narrowing my bandwidth.
This might be well of the mark, it might just be local obstructions/rf interference. If you've got a clear line of sight then I'd try to eliminate potential sources. WiFi might be it. My tplink card used to mash my bt mouse bandwidth. Is it near a pc?
Any other ideas anybody?
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I seem to have a problem with aptx and wifi streaming. Try a youtube video (a hd movie trailer) and it starts to stutter almost immediately. Anyone else get this?
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I tried this out and it played fine, maybe yours is faulty!
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Maybe you should install this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.baggy.play360
Don't know if it works, but give it a try
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Sorted works perfectly :highfive:
My Mini Review:0-10 (10=Perfect)
Sound quality 8/10
The best BT streaming device I've used to date, beating the Blackberry by quite some margin and I would put it on par with the QED which costs considerably more.
Range/Distance 7/10
Better than most, but does have its limits
NFC
Does work but not out of the box, but can be made to work with a little effort and a couple of free apps from the market place.
Looks
Always subjective, looks ok to me, quite like the leds that illuminate to inform that the unit is connected & streaming.
Value 9/10
Well worth the asking price at £27
Things to note.
(This maybe my rom, so if this is not the same for you then not to worry)
I recommend a few pair & unpair exchanges to make sure of a good pairing, this will eliminate any choppy play back issues.
I also noticed when connecting that my Wifi would disconnect from the phone (Bit of pain when streaming from Google music). Again I recommend the above.
My overall score is 7/10 :good:
Hurry get them while there cheap :victory:
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Does this only stutter audio streamed over WiFi when the Bluetooth device is connected or does it do the same when playing through the phone speaker/Jack output? I only ask because I had some real beef with WiFi dropping a reconnecting and this was obviously most notable when streaming.
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Sorry for the brief explanation. What I meant was, that when I play e.g. a youtube video so that it is streaming over the wifi. And at the same time I listen to the sound over bluetooth from my stereos.
The result is that my audio stutters, the video itself plays fine, no problems there. But the audio starts to stutter over bluetooth and from the speakers it sounds normal.
This happens only when I use wifi and bluetooth at the same time. If the wifi is idling (streaming buffer is full or video gets loaded, or I just don't use it) it doesn't occur.
I use spotify for music and that plays good without stutter and it sounds great.
But I rarely use a2dp/aptx when watching videos, so it doesn't bother me as long as spotify works. That's the main reason I bought this. AptX and 320kbps spotify, plus the perfect 7.7" size and a great case on my livingroom table ;-)
For those who have issues with wfi disconnecting.
Try this.
Establish BT connection with 310
Disconnect mobile data.
In Wifi forget your network.
Turn wifi off then on again.
Connect back to your wifi connection. (make sure in advanced that sleep is set to never.)
Reconnect mobile data.
Worked for me (Streaming from Google music as I type)
One thing to remember with BT3 as the SGS3, uses and the same with the nokia adapter there or the Samsung HS3000 is that BT3 use the wifi card now...
Bluetooth 3.0+HS provides theoretical data transfer speeds of up to 24 Mbit/s, though not over the Bluetooth link itself. Instead, the Bluetooth link is used for negotiation and establishment, and the high data rate traffic is carried over a collocated 802.11 link.
That is why we can get the bigger bandwith but also why when we push the wifi chip while using BT we will hear stutter on high bitrate sound (I hear it when i am home and and listing to FLAC over BT and the phone uses the internet)
I know we got 802.11n wifi in the phone but still it is sending to 2 ap's witch have never been the strong side of wifi.
Tried some flac's today, all I can say is WoW :good:
How did you get nfc to work? I downloaded the app from the link but what do I set the application to open? I get a beep every time I place the phone next to the receiver but nothing happens.
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Never mind, I figured it out, had to disable tags from application manager
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Great find!
Good spot, I was about to order a QED U-Play however this looks like pretty much the same thing at half the price. How many devices can you pair it with?
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Good spot, I was about to order a QED U-Play however this looks like pretty much the same thing at half the price. How many devices can you pair it with?
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Without getting the manual out i think i remember that it pairs with up to 4 devices. I have only used it with 1. I'm sure you could download the manual from nokias website..
Here's some info regarding what I've tried and what the results have been w/ my HTC ONE. Hopefully, it can help you based on what you're trying to accomplish. Maybe with some feedback, I can see if there's any work around. Obviously, this probably wasn't entirely part of the design team's intentions for this phone, but it's fun to try.
Using a 5-PIN MHL to USB Adapter:
INTERFACE: When I plug this in to my phone, I immediately notice scrolling through the app drawer is laggy. Do you? My adapter is from Ebay, and is about a year old. It looks like any other $10 adapter I see out there, but I wasn't sure if the newer ones are better.
INPUT LAG: almost non-existent. Pressing controls take action immediately.
MIRROR: TV is a true mirror of the phone.
MOVIES: playback stutters due to the MHL1.0 24fps @ 1080 restriction
GAMES: are playable due to low input lag, but again the 24fps bites you for any game (this is MANY) that does not support changing its resolution.
Using HTC Media Link HD: Ran the update to latest (as of Jun 19th 2013)
INTERFACE: Noticed right away that my phone remained butter-smooth while also transmitting signal to the TV.
INPUT LAG: felt like about 300ms.
MIRROR: TV is not a true mirror of the phone. I immediately noticed my phone was taken over, put in landscape mode and my app drawer was different.
MOVIES: Playback seemed smoother overall, with occasional hitching (not frequent enough to deter from use).
GAMES: Games are unplayable due to input lag. Noticed a softening effect and when not lagging, probably was a touch smoother in FPS.
Other Considerations:
Hook up to a non-1080p TV: Nope. Most modern 720p TVs support 1080i, and thus tell the phone to send it 1080 signal.
Hook up a REALLY non-1080p TV: Ok, ok... so get a 8+ year old TV, or an older LCD Monitor. Yes. Whatever resolution it supports at max will make the HTC One step down from 1080 signal and tada... movies, games and interface all become butter smooth over MHL to USB.
Change the output resolution in the app: This will work if the game supports it, but many don't. Movies? Does anyone know of a good movie app that lets you change the output res?
Root your phone, it's time for ElementalX's 720p MHL HDMI output tweak since this phone doesn't support MHL 2.0: Sure, but I'm trying to find a non-rooting method first. It looks decent. Ultimately, if I have to, I will, but I'm trying not to tinker this go-round. The phone is totally acceptable to me otherwise. On Sprint, he's just begun support for us and I'm keeping an eye on the thread to see better results from the pioneers first.
References:
Hardware Info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226982
ElementalX w/ 720p MHL USB support: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249774
New finding: If your MHL adapter causes your TV to blink in and out from time to time, I figured out what it is: Turn off Mobile Data on your phone.
For me, when I'm on 3G at least, whenever it gets a data hit, the HDMI functionality cuts out causing a static, noisy output to the TV.
Fortunately Wi-Fi is OK. Untested yet with 4G.
About to purchase a Bluetooth controller , a generic mhl adapter from amazon that has been confirmed to work with the one , and a flash of the ElementalX kernel . Really hope I'll be able to play my N64oid and PSXe titles smoothly . Will definitely report back with results
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About to purchase a Bluetooth controller , a generic mhl adapter from amazon that has been confirmed to work with the one , and a flash of the ElementalX kernel . Really hope I'll be able to play my N64oid and PSXe titles smoothly . Will definitely report back with results
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With that great option to set to 720p you should be butter-smooth. Good luck and let us know!
Hey.
I am running the latest nightly of CM 10.1 on my HTC one.
I can not seem to get my mhl cable working. Once I plug it in my HTC one often shuts down. The cable isn't faulty. It works like a charm with my galaxy nexus.
Sometimes I see a mirror of my screen but it is with a really bad resolution. Sometimes it flickers and shows a picture on and off. Mostly it freezes and then shuts down. It's really annoying.
USB OTG also doesn't work. The frequency of getting a bad resolution for a little while before it shuts down worked better after I disabled USB debugging in my developer settings.
Any thoughts? Workarounds?
Thanks in advance.
HTC one. CM 10.1
Turn off any form of motion control, as that'll cause quite a few issues as well.
Correct. Thanks a lot. I turned off auto rotate and then it worked. Didn't think of that. Now the mhl HDMI setup runs flawless without lag.
HTC one. CM 10.1
It's just me or image quality it's not that good? It's not the same as computer connected with HDMI? It seems it lower bitrate or diminish image quality. I am not talking about 24 fps limitation...
Does MHL adaptor quality might have an influence, or it's all the same?
I update my kodi to latest version and i have some lags anyone has the same problem?
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Should be posted in Q&A section.
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I update my kodi to latest version and i have some lags anyone has the same problem?
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What kind of lagging? When doing what?
If you have lags in playing video check if hardware decoding works - try restarting the device if it doesn't.
If you have interface lags - then I don't know, I've never encountered such.
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I have encountered lags in certain media types on every version of XBMC/Kodi I have tried on the Fire TV except one, SPMC. When I discovered SPMC, it was instantly noticable that the video plays more smoothly than other versions. I have not had any lags since. Of course some HD streams will lag, but its because they are encoded too high and most connections cannot handle the stream, but besides high encoded HD streams I have had no lags. It kills me when people have great streams that are encoded so high that nobody can watch them. Makes me wonder if people are encoding streams too high on purpose. I am not a person that always needs an HD stream. To me if the stream is decent quality I could care less if its HD or not. I'll take a decent quality stream over an HD stream that has been encoded so high that its unwatchable any day.
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they are encoded too high and most connections cannot handle the stream
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I used to think similarly until I discovered that it's the wifi connection that is usually the buffering bottleneck. I tested this with several handbrake encodes using ten different bit-rates ranging from 5,000 kbps all the way up to 63,000 kbps; aside from the largest bit-rate there was no buffering in sight when connected via ethernet. I did a similar test with wifi, and I was only able to get up to ~12-15,000 kbps before buffering started making things unwatchable. That's about a 5 fold increase of bit-rate watchability, and the highest bit-rates were actually larger than a blu-ray's If that puts anything into perspective.
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I used to think similarly until I discovered that it's the wifi connection that is usually the buffering bottleneck. I tested this with several handbrake encodes using ten different bit-rates ranging from 5,000 kbps all the way up to 63,000 kbps; aside from the largest bit-rate there was no buffering in sight when connected via ethernet. I did a similar test with wifi, and I was only able to get up to ~12-15,000 kbps before buffering started making things unwatchable. That's about a 5 fold increase of bit-rate watchability, and the highest bit-rates were actually larger than a blu-ray's If that puts anything into perspective.
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I was not talking about local video encode, I was talking about encoded streams. You found out the same thing I was saying, that high encoded streams will be unwatchable just like I said.
I also had to connect Kodi to an ethernet cable to avoid buffering, so it's worth a try. While WiFi has higher bandwidth than 100Mbit ethernet it is not well suited for streaming since it can have temporary drops that cause hiccups. Other solution is ridiculously high cache, for me 75MB was too low for higher quality encodings. I had zero drops since using the ethernet cable.