When I do a nandroid backup it appears to also include the apps that are installed also. Does this mean I can remove the actual apps from the SD Card to save space or does the nandroid backup merely reference the app from the SD Card, therefore meaning I have to leave them where they are?
EDIT: I've just viewed my SD Card on my notebook pc and can't find where the .apk's are located. Where are they stored if I move them to SD?
xybadog said:
When I do a nandroid backup it appears to also include the apps that are installed also. Does this mean I can remove the actual apps from the SD Card to save space or does the nandroid backup merely reference the app from the SD Card, therefore meaning I have to leave them where they are?
EDIT: I've just viewed my SD Card on my notebook pc and can't find where the .apk's are located. Where are they stored if I move them to SD?
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NANDROID backups EVERYTHING. every setting, shortcut, app, etc.
now what you see on your SD are some files that apps put there - like map application stores downloaded maps, your downloaded mp3 go there etc. NANDROID does NOT include that.
however it DOES include the .android_secure folder. inside this folder there is android app data moved to SD with froyo a2sd (move to SD/USB storage in android > settings > applications) you cannot see this files but they are there. these are NOT apk files, these are some data files. the data files are settings in apps. if you somehow manage to delete .android_secure you would lose all saved games and apps settings (of the apps that stored this info in .android_secure(
.apk files, if present on SD at all, will be on ext partition (invisible in windows) however it only applies to ROM that supports A2SD+ (some custom obviously, and it is there only if you formatted your SD to FAT32 + EXT3/4) NANDROID also includes SD-EXT.
to sum it all up. after you make a NANDROID, yes you can delete stuff from SD - this will only delete whatever app had there (like some fancy ringtones for facebook, downloaded maps of google maps, downloaded voices of SVOX or some game files like levels or sounds etc), but NOT this app settings or login files stored in .android_secure (unless you delete that too obviosly). so in case of restoring a NANDROID you would have your whole internal back + sd-ext + .android_secure. but if you deleted stuff from SD apps would have to redownload it or re-do it. but their settings would be untouched (like 'remember me' in some app login would still work fine)
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looking back at your original Q:
yes you can delete stuff from SD now, NANDROID has nothing to do with it. it only backups .android_secure from SD - app settings, remembered login etc.
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Now that Froyo has been released, I'm sure many of us will try to take advantage of the install to SD option. When doing this, is it necessary to move apps back to the phone to before backing up with TB? When restoring apps, will TB know how to properly handle apps installed to SD at the time of backup?
Also, somewhat OT, but where are apps actually stored on the SD card when moved?
TB doesn't care where your apps are and will even help you move them (IME). As to where they go, that is still a mystery to me. I have looked all over and haven't seen them unless I am missing something which is quite possible.
TB backups (at least for me) are in /sdcard/TitaniumBackup, stored as a properties file and a tar file.
As for SD card apps, I don't have any installed there, but the app has restore preferences that indicate that it can backup and restore apps to internal or SD storage...however, I only see the option to put apps on SD card from TB once they're installed by holding down on them in the list.
Looking for a way to set folders to install to EXTERNAL SD card (Not the actual apps). Not like apps2SD...just the folders the apps create for settings and such.
You can specify what location/folder to store pictures taken with the camara too, be it internal or external SD.
This is a setting in the camara app...but most apps dont provide an option like this.
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We have System, Internal, and if you install External micro SD.
You install Titanium Backup, or other apps that can back up stuff and their own settings, i.e. backup GO launcher settings. When you make your Titanium Backup(s) it creates a folder on INTERNAL storage. Now in the event that something (un-thinkable ) happens to your phone like dropping in water or ran over by MACK truck etc...(you get the point) you can't get it to power on you wont be able to get to any of your files on internal SD. Hopefully your External micro SD would survive and you could take it out, in one of the above examples.
So...that's why I ask if this can be done to bypass the INTERNAL SD in a way. I would actually use the internal for music and movies and put files that I want to make sure stay safe on the EXTERNAL SD. Most of us transfer mp3's and movies etc...from computer so we have copies.
Yeah one could just backup the INTERNAL SD from time to time. But we all know how sometimes this is overlooked.
Not sure if it's something about the way Samsung partitoned the storage or in EEPROM settings or something. On cyanogen mod roms though it had a setting that allowed for this. Phones with less internal storage like HD2 stored the apps on internal and their created folders to external card if one is installed, makes me lean towards the sofware.
P.S. if just move those folders to the External SD the apps dont look their for them.
Thanks for all feedback!
the 2 way i'm familiar with
CM7, has a build in option to do that
you could probably download CM7 source code and dissect that
Link2SD, can do exactly what you want, which is why i always use it to install my apps directly to my External SD card
AllGamer said:
the 2 way i'm familiar with
CM7, has a build in option to do that
you could probably download CM7 source code and dissect that
Link2SD, can do exactly what you want, which is why i always use it to install my apps directly to my External SD card
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I wish I could DEV but um more of a tester ! I downloaded some kitchens before but just couldn't get anything going so gave up. Guess I know my place. HAHA
Link2SD sounds like it may work I have to try it. It gives plenty of options!
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Well on titanium backup you can change itnto backup to the sd instead, just click menu> preferences> backup folder location. At first its set to mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup, you got to press back and select external sd card and titaniumbackup, or if your sd card already has a titanium folder, just select "detect" and it will find the folder on the ext sdcard
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but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
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Well on titanium backup you can change itnto backup to the sd instead, just click menu> preferences> backup folder location. At first its set to mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup, you got to press back and select external sd card and titaniumbackup, or if your sd card already has a titanium folder, just select "detect" and it will find the folder on the ext sdcard
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Wow thanks...I knew you could change the location, but that's new to me the DETECT feature that's cool.
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but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
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Yeah my point...Getting them to the SD is no problem its the apps wont look their unless they have the option to change default location like above mentioned titanium settings.
Side note: seen the post from Cyanogenmod about CM7 being "in progress" the option is there to set default under applications so all shall be fine soon for this anyway.
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but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
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Were you talking about my post? If so then all the apps do work properly, its just moving the backups you make on titanium to the sd card, not the app itself
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i'm not talking about backups, i'm talking about Apps that are moved forcefully to run from SD, you can do that using TI
but some Apps behaves erratically after that, only SD compatible Apps are unaffected
I have an application called "Copilot GPS" that uses 15 MB in data/data
Upon close consideration most of that is a single file - libcopilot.so
It is located in /data/data/com.alk.copilot/mapviewer/files folder
In "Manage Applications" "Move to SD card" is enabled for this app.
If I move it to SD - will the libcopilot.so be moved? The reason I am asking is that this page:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Apps2SD
says:
Not all of the application's data is actually moved to the SD card; the dex files, private data directories, and native shared libraries remain in internal storage.
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As far as I know .SO files are libraries
If I move it to SD and app doesn't work - can I reverse "Move to SD card' process? I also own full version of Titanium backup, so I can take a backup as well. I never mover any apps to SD before.
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I have an application called "Copilot GPS" that uses 15 MB in data/data
Upon close consideration most of that is a single file - libcopilot.so
It is located in /data/data/com.alk.copilot/mapviewer/files folder
In "Manage Applications" "Move to SD card" is enabled for this app.
If I move it to SD - will the libcopilot.so be moved? The reason I am asking is that this page:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Apps2SD
says:
As far as I know .SO files are libraries
If I move it to SD and app doesn't work - can I reverse "Move to SD card' process? I also own full version of Titanium backup, so I can take a backup as well. I never mover any apps to SD before.
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If you move the app to the SD card then you can always move it back to the phone if it doesn't work anymore. However, developers usually denote whether the app can be moved from internal storage to the SD without causing a problem to the functionality of the app and if not then the option won't show up on your phone. Newer versions of android have made apps like "app 2 SD pro" obsolete by adding the feature you are referring to with the check boxes to denote whether the app can be moved but even on stock version 2.2 you can go to app details and move the app manually. Most apps can exist on the SD card without causing problems with functionality anyway, most of them that are marked for not being able to be moved are ones that are either system apps or third party versions of system apps where your phone could lose overall functionality if your SD were to be removed or go defunct. I hope this helps!
Moving the app as you describe will not move the lib file to the sd card. It will only move the .apk from /data. You need to use an app like link2sd to move the data files and libs to the sd card.
Can anyone tell me what the settings should be on my Galaxy S3 in order to save a Titanium backup to the external SD card? While I had Titanium and used it on my HTC Sensation without a problem, I have encountered that when I have it on my T-mo Galaxy SIII, it saves the backups to the internal 16 GB memory by default, not the SD card. This is a problem because the backup is erased when I instal a new ROM and wipe the partition. Recently I installed a new ROM and found out that when I went to recover all my apps they were gone and were not on my SD card backed up (even though I had ran it and completed a backup). My pics and videos were still on the SD card so I know that it was not formatted itself when I installed the new ROM.
My current backup folder shows as: /mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup
Should it be something else in order to save to my external 64 GB SDCard? Should any other settings be changed to something else? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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That should be the right folder. /sdcard/ refers to the external microSD for our phones. I just checked my TI settings and that's the same folder I use.
In your 64gb micro SD create a folder called "TitaniumBackup" <----this is very important!
Then open up Titanium Backup app and hit menu button, then go to Preferences.
Scroll down and select *Backup folder location.
Press "Detect", then "Whole device".
Once its done you will see /mnt/extSdCard/Titaniumbackup in the list. Select it. (the other one is gonna be /mnt/titaniumbackup thats internal sd)
Then select "Use the current folder".
If it asks you to transfer data you can which will transfer your existing back in the internal to the new one. Up to you. Or you can just start a whole new backup which will now store in you micro sd card.
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That should be the right folder. /sdcard/ refers to the external microSD for our phones. I just checked my TI settings and that's the same folder I use.
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Wrong
it's /mnt/extSDcard
Or you can connect your phone to your computer and pull the titanium backup folder from your phone for safe keeping while you flash. Then once everything is booted up again you can reconnect and drag and drop the folder back on the phone.
Hello guys, I have some questions about data generating and mainly modifying Google Play billing information, hope I can find answers here...
Each time I open Titanium Backup or Google Play has some update on apps, my external SD Card will generate 2 folders which are "data\com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup" and "Android\data", the second one will have some system apps folders inside suck as "com.android.gallery3d" and "com.google.android.apps.maps". I rooted my G3 and use ES file explorer to manage my files. But I didn't experience such issues in my previous Galaxy Note, which means those apps or system won't generate any app data on external SD Card. Most importantly those app folders (13+ folders) are empty and all 0.00 KB!
It is somehow annoying and I can't ignore it so each time I access my external SD card I will have to delete them manually. I wonder what is the problem and how can I tweat the system so that it won't generate it in SD card again, internal storage folder already contained all those app data folders!
External SD Card's folder (root):
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Inside the "Android\Data" Folder:
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What? Nobody here can help me? Someone should know...
I think you're a little too much stressed with pretty much nothing to worry about.