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Like to say put one of the new mobile dual core processors in it.
No
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Just to expand a little, the processor is not socketed here like it is on most desktops and laptops, so it's not as simple as dropping in a new one. I think it's actually a BGA soldered down on the board.
From a pure theoretical standpoint, if there is a pinout compatible processor in the same BGA form-factor, you could remove the existing processor (cover everything else on the PCB with kapton tape, heat it in a special oven, pop off the BGA, clean off the solder pads) and then solder the new one down (precisely align the chip, a task typically handled by a machine during assembly, and then bake it in the oven again). I actually have seen technicians successfully replace BGAs by hand before (using tweezers, soldering irons, and heat guns no less), but the success rate is understandably not great.
So realistically, it's not possible...
and were it to be done, it could potentially either cost me a phone, or cost more than a phone to have done. What about replacing everything inside the phone? like, because i really like the look of my g2 more than anything. I mean dont get me wrong the speed is why i got it, but the look has certainly grown on me.
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and were it to be done, it could potentially either cost me a phone, or cost more than a phone to have done. What about replacing everything inside the phone? like, because i really like the look of my g2 more than anything. I mean dont get me wrong the speed is why i got it, but the look has certainly grown on me.
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I wouldnt think about it to much its almost imposible because even if you manage to replace the cpu on your g2 with a dual core its not gonna work because the board is not gonna support it and other componants too. its like trying to replace a celeron M on on a laptop with an i5 without changing your motherboard .
its gonna take a while for dual core smart phones to take of and by that time there is gonna be a successor for G2 that will look better. if you are not happy with the speed you are getting maybe you should look into trying different ROMs and kernels to OC .
and for changing everything in your phone all together where are you going to find a board and otherthings to fit into g2 easily ?
imho its just a bad idea
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I wouldnt think about it to much its almost imposible because even if you manage to replace the cpu on your g2 with a dual core its not gonna work because the board is not gonna support it and other componants too. its like trying to replace a celeron M on on a laptop with an i5 without changing your motherboard .
its gonna take a while for dual core smart phones to take of and by that time there is gonna be a successor for G2 that will look better. if you are not happy with the speed you are getting maybe you should look into trying different ROMs and kernels to OC .
and for changing everything in your phone all together where are you going to find a board and otherthings to fit into g2 easily ?
imho its just a bad idea
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I think he's just having a little buyer's remorse. Seeing as how those dual-core phones are in sight now I know I feel the same way, but all in all, the G2 is an awesome device and I don't think I'd trade it for that Tegra 2 garbage (yet )
With enough resources (skills/time/money) almost anything is theoretically possible, for example it's theoretically possible to turn a Honda Civic into a rear wheel drive sports car with a Corvette engine, but the effort and money it would cost would make doing so an unwise proposition.
in two years with g3 comes out itll have 4 cores. lol
Oh, buyers remorse is not the issue. I'm simply thinking of the future. My phone is hella fast now, i just know that the things they'll be able to do once they start really adding dual cores to phones are going to be downright ridiculous. I mean, my g2 is oc'd stably to 1.5 ghz up from 800 mhz. It's literally so fast that when i first got it it annoyed me, because everything happened instantly compared to my cliq. so accidental screen touches were common. But the reason why i ask, is because if the trend continues, In about 6 months we'll have ~1.3 ghz dual core processors in phones, with better video cards, and hella memory. And with 4g internet speeds becoming the norm. So the reason i ask, is because if you're phone is that fast, in the form factor of the g2, you could basically have your self the worlds most portable netbook. I would like this. ha ha. luckily i wouldnt have to wait too long, as i have an upgrade every year.
edited: because oh hell no was my phone running at 800ghz
You'll drive yourself nuts thinking like that. In another six months the tegra devices will be outdated, the best you can do is just get the best you can when you have the opportunity and wait for the next upgrade cycle. Just think, when all these tegra guys are still under contract, we'll be upgrading to a newer generation of processors. It's an endless cycle.
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Theoretically, you can make android run on a dead monkey's brain soaking in a bottle and all wired up.
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Theoretically, you can make android run on a dead monkey's brain soaking in a bottle and all wired up.
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So you have seen/used one of the Chinese Android Tablets then?
The qualcomm platform itself is designed to be able upgrade. For example the 7227 platform should be upgrade to 7230, without need pcb redesign. Just need to replace the main processor. That is what i know from one qualcomm representative.
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Physically, no. But you would wait to wait a year and get any of the new shiny devices with 3x ram 3x video card capability and 3x cpu over wasting time on upgrading a phones processor.. no?
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I think he's just having a little buyer's remorse. Seeing as how those dual-core phones are in sight now I know I feel the same way, but all in all, the G2 is an awesome device and I don't think I'd trade it for that Tegra 2 garbage (yet )
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That screen shot from your phone that's in your signature looks amazing
Just remember what you need your phone to do. Not what's the best of the best. For me the reason I got a g2 is because my cliq didn't have flash and didn't run gba and snes as fast as id like. Once those two problems were solved I was very happy and am right now.
Sure once in a while I think it sucks that the nexus s hits higher benchmarks etc... but my phone does everything I want it to as of right now. So I am very content.
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So you have seen/used one of the Chinese Android Tablets then?
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ZING! lol nice one
Yes, this is an angry rant but this needs to be done.
After this forum has to endure relentless abuse from people about certain hardware decisions surrounding Windows Phone, I find it more than mildly amusing that these 3 flagship phones:
HTC One X - 4.7" Quad Core 1.5GHz 8MP
HTC One XL - 4.7" Dual Core 1.5GHz LTE 8MP
HTC One S - 4.3" Dual Core 1.5GHz 8MP
All have one thing in common: No SD Card Slot.
And the gorgeous Sony Xperia U/P phones are using android-laughable, mere Dual Core 1GHz "old" chips in 2012.
That being said, I love the direction new Sony Mobile is going in. Eye-catching phones with reasonable specs. Nothing overboard like 4.7" Quad Core. All we hear in here is specs specs specs, yet we are seeing a regression in certain areas among specific phones in the Android world. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard someone say Windows Phone is crap because 16GB no SD card slot is not going to be enough I would be retired.
What do Windows Phones need?
CPU: Modest Dual Core CPU only for the accompanying GPU to play nice games.
Handsets: More handsets on more carriers, and more nice ones like the Lumia 800/900. Would love to see Sony get into the Windows Phone game but that will not happen until Apple starts suing them too. And hey, if the S is popular enough that may happen.
Apps: More apps.
And that is it. Because a fantastic looking phone that is stable, smooth, has great battery life, and a huge library of apps is the recipe for success.
end rant.
I don't pay any of that junk attention, it's usually always the same people anyway....they'll see a shiny, new Android phone and the first thing they do is say "see, WP doesn't have this..it's a failure..". I read something the other day that made me literally laugh out loud: they said the"Windows fanboys" would change their tune about multiple cores...if the phone already comes with it, why wouldn't it be supported!?! I have repeatedly said I own an Evo 3D and an HD7, one has a single core processor, the other, a dual core processor...guess which one is smoother?
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I don't pay any of that junk attention, it's usually always the same people anyway....they'll see a shiny, new Android phone and the first thing they do is say "see, WP doesn't have this..it's a failure..". I read something the other day that made me literally laugh out loud: they said the"Windows fanboys" would change their tune about multiple cores...if the phone already comes with it, why wouldn't it be supported!?! I have repeatedly said I own an Evo 3D and an HD7, one has a single core processor, the other, a dual core processor...guess which one is smoother?
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Well, sometimes it is hard to ignore the junk when you read it everyday. A large part of the noise went away when bans were handed out.
But what is wrong with us all when specs matter regardless of how useable those specs are? I am beyond curious to see what battery life they 4.7" ultrasharp, ultracore phones are going to have and how people will be able to justify it.
I like my car fast, but I do not think its acceptable if I need to refuel constantly and carry around a fuel cannister in my trunk cuz the gas mileage sucks.
I agree, that's why I lol. ..some folks you just can't please: a person posted that you can't download mp3s over the air with WP, I said you can with the right app ( I use the full version of easyring ), they then complained that it wasn't free like Android lol...
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I pretty much silenced the entire quadcore android leaks...what MS needs to do thread when I posted 2 sources stating that multi cores were coming. I know N8ter got banned and he was the biggest one, who else got banned?
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I pretty much silenced the entire quadcore android leaks...what MS needs to do thread when I posted 2 sources stating that multi cores were coming. I know N8ter got banned and he was the biggest one, who else got banned?
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Wow, N8ter got banned? I guess i been away for a while. I stopped paying attention to XDA for a while, because of him & a few others.
Ok, back on topic. Yeah, these specs do seem a little stupid, but this is even on WP7. I must say that the OEM's need to make better devices & give better choices on memory size. At least give a few versions; 8/16/32 GB. Not force everyone to one size. 16 GB is good enough for me for now, but I can see how some people could use more. 8 GB is just laughable IMO for that matter, but some people just don't need that much space I guess.
He forgot to mention they will be available in 16 32, and I think 64 gb variations.
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Well, sometimes it is hard to ignore the junk when you read it everyday. A large part of the noise went away when bans were handed out.
But what is wrong with us all when specs matter regardless of how useable those specs are? I am beyond curious to see what battery life they 4.7" ultrasharp, ultracore phones are going to have and how people will be able to justify it.
I like my car fast, but I do not think its acceptable if I need to refuel constantly and carry around a fuel cannister in my trunk cuz the gas mileage sucks.
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I have to agree with this. I disappeared because of the constant Android fanfare here and the lack of action by the moderators. I had to constantly ***** about it in PM to them because they would hand out a warning to me and allow them to continue ruining the experience here.
I honestly don't think that these specs going on in the mobile world are going to last though. It's very reminiscent of the power wars with PCs a few years back. Ultimately, efficiency won out and not "omg I have 7ghz." And I think you're seeing that with Windows 8, where no new specs are required. We're seeing that with Windows Phone - where an older snapdragon feels like a newly released processor.
I'm honestly happy with my HD7, I have been since day one. The OS, the apps, and the experience has done nothing but improve every single day. With the exception of HTCs HORRIBLE driver release and bugs, it has been as solid as solid can be.
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He forgot to mention they will be available in 16 32, and I think 64 gb variations.
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You guys know how I feel about this. I one of the big supporters of the cloud, pandora, zune pass, etc when it comes to music. While I would love a little more space, I have a boat load of music on my phone, I stream even more, and I have 7gb left after a year and a half lol.
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He forgot to mention they will be available in 16 32, and I think 64 gb variations.
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Forgot? The 4.3" Samsung Focus S comes in 16/32GB options as well in the same phone. The HTC One S 4.3" is 16GB. So I need to get a 4.7" phone in order to enjoy 32GB if I want an HTC One? Maybe that will change but as far as I see there are no variations.
But to be balanced I agree phones should come in 16/32GB variations. The Cloud is not a good answer for why only 8GB.
This is hilarious!
It takes android phones 4 cores to get near the smooth experience windows phone offers with only one core.
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This is hilarious!
It takes android phones 4 cores to get near the smooth experience windows phone offers with only one core.
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Since this General forum is so quiet recently,proves that the reason I remained silence is correct due to the typical WP7 fans like above?
if bashing android like you said making you happy,then just do it.
just want to say single core android can run as smooth as WP7 when it only build to run easy stuffs like on WP7.
Will back to my silent state again...think and experience always make you better....
I think the forum is generally silent because you don't spend time tinkering with WP, it works. My point (and I think the Op's) is that having multiple cores on a cellphone doesn't guarantee a speedy user experience. No matter how much we go back and forth, some people can't accept that there are a select few that actually enjoy their phones without worrying what the other guys are doing .
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I think the forum is generally silent because you don't spend time tinkering with WP, it works. My point (and I think the Op's) is that having multiple cores on a cellphone doesn't guarantee a speedy user experience. No matter how much we go back and forth, some people can't accept that there are a select few that actually enjoy their phones without worrying what the other guys are doing .
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I'm not sure the op had a point. It just seemed like the loling about certain new android phones having undesirable attributes. It seemed more about the sd card than the cores, anyway.
If I understand correctly, SD cards are being designed this way so that both system and user memory are combined into one; that way, there's no longer a hard system app limit, aside from of course the SD capacity. (I could be completely off.)
But all in all, what's the point of a thread on this? If you consider lack of SD card to be a dealbreaker like the people in the OP supposedly did, then yes, you won't be buying the One X. So what? Buy something else. Perhaps if there'd been a system change that made Android no longer support SD cards, then it'd be amusingly ironic. But you're talking about 3 phones here..
Not really anything new since the past two nexus phones haven't had SD slots, but it's definitely not going to help HTC with sales. Personally, I won't even consider buying a phone unless it has expandable storage. I passed on the Palm Pre back in the day for that very reason even though at the time it was the nicest phone Sprint had and I was stuck with a three year old Sanyo dumbphone.
It's a shame OEMs are following in Apple's footsteps with regard to non-expandable storage (unless you buy a whole new device for more money) and none removable batteries.
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This is hilarious!
It takes android phones 4 cores to get near the smooth experience windows phone offers with only one core.
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Not really on topic to this fora, but this being XDA we should at least try to keep information on here accurate.
It's a very common misconception that hardware will be able to fix Android's stuttering when it's a software issue. It comes down to the fact that Google hasn't optimized the Linux kernel for Mobile Devices instead of PCs. It doesn't give priority to the UI with CPU usage, so if something else wants CPU time the UI performance will suffer. Not to mention a thread can only run on one CPU so the other cores would just sit idle regardless. Hardware rendering has also always been available, but due to it's overhead there are times when it can actually hinder performance.
The article below deals primarily with Android, but the underlying issues apply to pretty much all operating systems.
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
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I'm not sure the op had a point. It just seemed like the loling about certain new android phones having undesirable attributes. It seemed more about the sd card than the cores, anyway.
If I understand correctly, SD cards are being designed this way so that both system and user memory are combined into one; that way, there's no longer a hard system app limit, aside from of course the SD capacity. (I could be completely off.)
But all in all, what's the point of a thread on this? If you consider lack of SD card to be a dealbreaker like the people in the OP supposedly did, then yes, you won't be buying the One X. So what? Buy something else. Perhaps if there'd been a system change that made Android no longer support SD cards, then it'd be amusingly ironic. But you're talking about 3 phones here..
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what he's trying to say is that all the Android fanboys come in here and poke fun at and chant failure to all the WP phones that don't have removable storage and that now has come back at them with the newer android phones not having removable storage where as the WP8 phones will.
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what he's trying to say is that all the Android fanboys come in here and poke fun at and chant failure to all the WP phones that don't have removable storage and that now has come back at them with the newer android phones not having removable storage where as the WP8 phones will.
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Three new android phones don't have removable storage, yes, I get that. So what? There are so many other new devices that, if an android fanboy don't want the One X, he don't have to get it. Saying "haha you can't get these particular devices" isn't actually saying anything, when the dissers have a varied enough ecosystem to draw upon. Maybe if they were all HTC fans (but HTC isn't even the #1 seller anymore, so..)
nicksti said:
Yes, this is an angry rant but this needs to be done.
After this forum has to endure relentless abuse from people about certain hardware decisions surrounding Windows Phone, I find it more than mildly amusing that these 3 flagship phones:
HTC One X - 4.7" Quad Core 1.5GHz 8MP
HTC One XL - 4.7" Dual Core 1.5GHz LTE 8MP
HTC One S - 4.3" Dual Core 1.5GHz 8MP
All have one thing in common: No SD Card Slot.
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I am perfectly fine if an android phone doesn't have a SD card slot. Those are on the big side of the big-small continuum. I don't think I would want a phone without a micro SD card slot unless it was a cheap and small phone. Even then, I don't know if I would do one without a micro SD card slot. Of it is cheap, the it probably won't have much in the way of storage space.
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Wow, N8ter got banned? I guess i been away for a while. I stopped paying attention to XDA for a while, because of him & a few others.
Ok, back on topic. Yeah, these specs do seem a little stupid, but this is even on WP7. I must say that the OEM's need to make better devices & give better choices on memory size. At least give a few versions; 8/16/32 GB. Not force everyone to one size. 16 GB is good enough for me for now, but I can see how some people could use more. 8 GB is just laughable IMO for that matter, but some people just don't need that much space I guess.
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Wow... i haven't paid any attention to that guy for awhile!
But yeah... OEM is thinking that customer will not need more than 16GB of data which is wrong. And they are thinking that people would not want laggy performance, so they don't use the SD Card to prevent this.
That is what i think.
But, the problem with this, i have said many times , that people will never know that Windows Phone run smoother in One Core only, they will still believe in the number and the mouth of the representative. "2 Cores will be better than 1, 2 is bigger than 1" .
Same Sh!t, Different Day. (S.S.D.D)
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Since this General forum is so quiet recently,proves that the reason I remained silence is correct due to the typical WP7 fans like above?
if bashing android like you said making you happy,then just do it.
just want to say single core android can run as smooth as WP7 when it only build to run easy stuffs like on WP7.
Will back to my silent state again...think and experience always make you better....
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Same reason I stopped posting in here.
I'm on single core and having a extremely smooth experience.
Its also extremely annoying not having removable storage as Nicksi pointed out. That and the non removable batteries are big issue.
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What windows needs is more apps Had a windows phone for a while so many of the apps arent updated (like angry birds)
You guys think the next Google phone will have 2GB of RAM? LG just announce their new phone and it has 2GB of ram 0_o man are they crazy? Lol
http://goo.gl/ANrQ8
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My galaxy note always consumes not less than 650MB even though I always kill game apps but I don't want to always kill apps. So yes, 2GB is a big plus and would be necessary especially for hardcore users.
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Yes most likely. games and apps will get better and need better hardware
Sure. Why not include it if the price of the phones will be the same price?
More ram is always good. I'd never encountered a situation where it isn't (desktop). Besides, ram is cheap and if it won't hurt the price I'd take it.
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I dont understand why...I barely use up 1GB and thats just becoming a Standard. I'd think the Dec. '13 Nexus might have it. Definitely not in 2012 though.
Depends on how hard core you're muti-tasking. I can easily hit the 2GB limit if I'm multitasking like crazy (i.e. swtiching between XDA, the web, another forum app, gmail, music, youtube, twitter, google currents, all within a matter of minutes).
Android is so seamless though that I rarely recognize when an app has been closed down.
But couldn't android be more optimize instead? I mean no even Google uses that much ram for their device( and I don't think they will this year) and what's up with quad core ? You think that's necessary ? I haven't rooted my galaxy nexus cause I will go crazy flashing rooms like before but stock feels fast without lag with a duel core
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Why does it matter if a phone has 2GB or 3GB of RAM?
Computers... who needs 16GB of RAM? who needs 32GB of RAM?
.... we can because we can. More RAM the better, especially if it's at the SAME PRICE. This is innovation. As Android advances, it'll definitely be using more RAM. So why complain if a manufacturer will give you more RAM?
Makes no sense. It doesn't matter if it's necessary or not. That's like saying, are quad cores necessary on phones / tablets? Not really, is it nice to have? hell yeah. This the basic fundamentals of innovation and competition.
Lol is it necessary? It isn't necessary, but god knows Android can use all the help it can get before any further optimization. Plus, what the poster said before me - why not?
Damn, what a drag it is to be able multitask more. Sucks having that choice.
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The voltage draw on 2gb of ram would be crazy. Battery life will suffer
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I say the next one will have 1.5GB, not more.
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The voltage draw on 2gb of ram would be crazy. Battery life will suffer
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Exactly why 1GB has been the standard...anything more and expect a huge impact on battery
Would it be nice to have a quad core phone with 2GB ram? Sure...would it be nice to have about 1 hour on screen time or less? I don't think so...
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Exactly why 1GB has been the standard...anything more and expect a huge impact on battery
Would it be nice to have a quad core phone with 2GB ram? Sure...would it be nice to have about 1 hour on screen time or less? I don't think so...
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That's like saying NVIDIA Tegra 3's Quad-Core will use more processing power.
It's obvious that mAh batteries are kind of outdated and there needs to be something done with battery to improve its usage.
the 2GB ram could be ondemand RAM or something of that sort. all im saying is that, hardware should not be limited due to battery usages. look at verizon, they're pumping out 4G LTE at the cost of battery life
EVERYONE!
Dalvik VM.
No need for 2GB of RAM. I totally forgot about that.
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2gb ram is itself not enough dude !!!!!!!!!!! and more over armv7 processors r not built for it yet........... any how if 2gb ram is allocated in the phone there must be compitent gigs ... to maintain it i guess 2.0ghz will be enough ..........its practically impossible till date to built phone with 2gb ram
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The voltage draw on 2gb of ram would be crazy. Battery life will suffer
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yes u r correct the battery will drain faster than even u charge it before hand
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EVERYONE!
Dalvik VM.
No need for 2GB of RAM. I totally forgot about that.
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Virtual memory is not as efficient as physical memory (its slower).... but I do agree 2gb of ram is a little overboard... maybe for tablets with native ubuntu/linux booting, but not android.
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Necessary? No, probably not. Welcome? Yes.
Provided the battery life and device price don't suffer, the more ram the better.
"So much more ram for activities"
However I'm worried that if hardware innovation moves too fast then people won't know what's actually necessary to run Android with standard apps/games. If everyone is talking about 2GB of ram in Android devices people will think that 1GB or less won't be enough. Similar to how people started understating single core processors once dual core came out.
So, the question is simple. What do you want on the next Nexus?
e.e why? are u personally gonna make jelly bean?
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Non pentile screen
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Non pentile screen
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They really need to change that =_=
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A battery that lasts all day... maybe even longer.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1628049\
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619082
Non amoled screen. Or the amoled that doesn't get burn ins even after mild usage. Thank you.
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Well I surprisingly reversed my burn in.
Anyway amoled non pentile is coming in due time. Samsung couldn't yet make full rgb at such a high pixel density...yet. but it will get there soon. Just look at the time line for their previous development from amoled to plus, and extrapolate that time.
I want at least 8mp camera, 2GB RAM, 1.5GHz Quad Core, much better GPU, microSD support, higher capacity battery and a non-pentile display (I would prefer LCD2 but its Samsung)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1628049\
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619082
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Thought this looked familiar.
Here is another.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1615880
No one mentioned the obvious, microSD slot, but that will not happen.
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I want at least 8mp camera, 2GB RAM, 1.5GHz Quad Core, much better GPU, microSD support, higher capacity battery and a non-pentile display (I would prefer LCD2 but its Samsung)
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+1 to this. Perfection.
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Thought this looked familiar.
Here is another.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1615880
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Thanks. Knew there were more. Figured the first 2 were enough.
I want the full Google experience:
Google fiber rolled out to major cities as network backbone for Nexus flagship devices. Pentaband still present for use on GSM networks with 100 mins and 100mb per month for GSM roaming included. Google voice and SIP used for voice on fiber network.
More realistically:
-16gb storage is fine, but Google experience phones are also granted 20gb on Google Drive.
-Nexus available on Play Store within 2 weeks of announcement. No carrier lock. Same $399 price.
-Super Amoled+ HD
-better GPU
-Wireless charging or at least car and desk docks with functional 3-pin at launch
-Dual core, or quad core with Ubuntu for Android
-Application settings and data auto backed up
and restored using Google Drive (especially game data)
-Air play like functionality
-Better voice control
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Only three things: better camera, MicroSD slot and please, don't make it bigger! Bigger isn't = better. Just take a look at Galaxy Note adds, only elephants can use it :-( I don't want to carry a tablet in my pocket every day.
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Everything is just about perfect. I would love to see higher premium build material and larger battery. Dual core SoC and Pentile screen I can live with.
micro sd slot, better gpu, better camera, tegra 3 or better, better battery, and most importantly, please google find a company that has better build quality than samsung like motorola or htc (and if possible waterproff)
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eksasol said:
No one mentioned the obvious, microSD slot, but that will not happen.
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It was mentioned... just didn't read =P
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Still don't understand the need for 2gb of ram on a phone. There is no app that utilizes that, no arm processor manly enough to thrash 2gb of ram and it's just a battery suck just to have 2gb of ram. The I need my this or that instantly just doesn't justify keeping bigger ram in a phone for the battery drain and almost instantaneous output for a .5 second gain. This is one of those things where efficiency of software, hardware and better I/o from storage need to be hammered down. The whole 2gb of ram thing is just ludicrous for a handheld. Much bigger gains are to be had from discrete gpu ram and faster storage. And those cost more money and suck battery too. But while we're making corny wish lists gddr5 ram and ssd in the next phone. And octo core. Why stop at 4 even though there is no use for it? And just to blow it out I don't want a battery on my next phone. Just terminal leads for a 12volt I can carry in a back pack. That way it solves the whole non/removeable battery thing in one fell swoop, the phone will be lighter and and can accommodate all our ludicrous technology wants. Or is it needs?
Dear Santa, I really like what we have. Id be happy with an a15 dual core, sgx543mp2 and all the other accoutrements omap chip sets have and an SD card slot in the jelly bean phone debut. I was a really good boy this year I promise. Love spanky.
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The Note 3 is rumored to have 3GB of RAM. I believe that is a first for smartphones. But does it actually mean anything for real world performance or is it just for the spec sheet. Are there any use cases where 2GB is not sufficient?
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The Note 3 is rumored to have 3GB of RAM. I believe that is a first for smartphones. But does it actually mean anything for real world performance or is it just for the spec sheet. Are there any use cases where 2GB is not sufficient?
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You know, since we do not have any phone with 3GB we really don't know that?
But we can speculate, and 2GB did bring marked difference to the table with more apps that can stay suspended in memory so we can easily come back to them @ later time. Basically, there will be no other bonus beside better multitasking, unless someone figures a way to run 2 systems @ once (for whatever reason that may be) or we get into very advanced gaming (that GPU performance would not allow anyway) with huge framebuffers and AA. To date, I have not found any case where 2GB was not enough, no single app that would eat more than 1GB of ram - supposedly you can write an app that would use all available memory as storage for levels and textures and whatever just to increase smoothness of gameplay, but that would not make it a requirement, only an added option, since the game must be designed to run on some lowest common platform (within reason).
So in a way it will certainly mean "something" for a smoothness, just how much depends on your uses and application developers, for now I don't think you will see any difference from more memory, because it will be dwarfed by faster CPU and GPU speeds.
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The Note 3 is rumored to have 3GB of RAM. I believe that is a first for smartphones. But does it actually mean anything for real world performance or is it just for the spec sheet. Are there any use cases where 2GB is not sufficient?
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well ram does make little significant in multitasking and gaming but apart from it there is no much gain as of now 2gb is enough to perform all task and it works great as of now. we rather need more ram demanding games and apps to utilize the power of it, so yes as of now its a co. specs sheet to launch a new smartphone , its future proof but to catch up with it we need a more demanding android platform,games and app.
Samsung are only doing it for the sake of the specs bump. I'm probably going to wait for the Note 4 myself, maybe we will need more ram by then.
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You never needed more than 2GB of RAM because the system is optimized to leave certain ammount of free RAM thereby closing applications designated as "unused",which might not be regarded so much unused by us after all.So in my opponion a device with 3GB of RAM will be significantly faster and smoother.
I have more than 1GB of ram free in 90% of the cases so 3GB is overkill for now.
3GB won't really make a huge difference since we already have 2GB memory on our Note2...
I have no money so I guess I'll just wait for Note 5.
Nothing better, no difference !
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When earlier everyone has 1 gb.. people use to say 2 gb wont make any difference.. bt now a days 2 gb is necessary... so i think 3 gb will soon come into action...
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When earlier everyone has 1 gb.. people use to say 2 gb wont make any difference.. bt now a days 2 gb is necessary... so i think 3 gb will soon come into action...
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The more the merrier!
1 gb was fine but with the s3 it did get hogged up.
2 seems good but its stretching it!
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3GB won't really make a huge difference since we already have 2GB memory on our Note2...
I have no money so I guess I'll just wait for Note 5.
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Watch it will make a difference. When we get 4.3 from Sammy our beloved Note 2 will seem to get slower and laggy. With each new firmware update, the files get bigger and also the apps need more memory.
If the rumors are true then I will be the first in line for the new note 3
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When earlier everyone has 1 gb.. people use to say 2 gb wont make any difference.. bt now a days 2 gb is necessary... so i think 3 gb will soon come into action...
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I had far lesser RAM on my DHD last year and I was contended even if the games load a tad slower compared to higher tier phones.
IMO The huge bump for the RAM is to accommodate a heavier version of any given UI.
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The more the merrier!
1 gb was fine but with the s3 it did get hogged up.
2 seems good but its stretching it!
Watch it will make a difference. When we get 4.3 from Sammy our beloved Note 2 will seem to get slower and laggy. With each new firmware update, the files get bigger and also the apps need more memory.
If the rumors are true then I will be the first in line for the new note 3
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I'm trying to save for a lot & house so having a new phone for me might get irrelevant for my needs in my new house. But anyways, Good luck on your future phone
I think right now 3GB of RAM is just future proofing. Nothing ever challenges the Note II's 2GB.
With that said, the more the merrier.
IMO, it will increase performance ..Personally, I need 3 Gb.. I have more than 400 app which all have at least one function I want. I multitask a lot. Moreover, I have more than 10 background running apps Eg. Gmd gesture control, Gmd s pen control, swipepad, swipapp, air control, control center,magic unlock, lmt pie control, ..... Blah blah.
So, if I start to run more other apps, I always got over 90 % of my 2 Gb and I sometimes feel my phone become sluggish though not always .. So 3 Gb will be perfect for me
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Samsung might be planning for things to make use of the 3GB .. If they didn't make that much difference, it's always good to have them ^^ with hopefully the snapdragon 800 2.X GHz .. I don't know if it will be worth upgrading from note 2, we'll just wait and see.
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I regularly see free RAM drop to under 200MB, though I do have quite a few apps running. I see this more as Android effectively utilising RAM than anything else.
But with RAM being so cheap, why not have more and keep more in memory? Reduce I/O delays and flash wear, reduce battery use, and with higher and higher res screens, app assets will just keep increasing in size (4.3 supports up to 600+ DPI for example).
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I think right now 3GB of RAM is just future proofing. Nothing ever challenges the Note II's 2GB.
With that said, the more the merrier.
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A year ago 1Gb ram was said to be enough, now 2 Gb is enough so if we are going yo run note 3 for a year then it is going to be enough cz we all know that samsung is going to put a lot of bloat in note 3.
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Also, from 1 to 2 it is doubling it. 2 to 3 is only 50%.
Beside this, sometimes the time will come android being a fat memory wasting pig. But this won't be happening within the next some years.
They will improve stats and will make you believe you need them, so you hang on buying the latest ****.. Over and over again. That's like modern economy works .
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Also, from 1 to 2 it is doubling it. 2 to 3 is only 50%.
Beside this, sometimes the time will come android being a fat memory wasting pig. But this won't be happening within the next some years.
They will improve stats and will make you believe you need them, so you hang on buying the latest ****.. Over and over again. That's like modern economy works .
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Yeah exactly. The specs get bumped to create the impression that your current device is sub par. Even 1gb ram would be enough if Samsung didn't keep adding more and more useless features in every new device. Things like smart pause and s health are totally unnecessary for most people.
The only reason I even run TouchWiz is that the battery life is better than aosp. If it wasn't for that then I'd be totally happy with boring old vanilla Android on my note. This is the first phone I've ever had that I can feel free to use as I please and be confident that it will easily get me through the day and even well into the next.
Yeah the Note 3 may improve on that slightly but it's still not much of a reason to upgrade. Unless it has some miracle feature which significantly changes the way I use my phone, I'll wait for the Note 4 or 5. I just can't see it though. A minor spec bump and a raft of useless bloat just aren't getting me excited.
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Lol. May be the new touch wiz with Android 4.3 is going to be 2gb in itself. ?........
I was updating my brothers nexus 4...4.3 is a 160 MB OTA update.... almost the size of a full aosp rom. So may be Samsung 4.3 rom is going to be 2gb....
Note 3 will be having 3gb ram!
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