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How do I know if I have ENG or Radio S-Off??

I have to be honest, I followed a fairly technical guide to root my DHD and although I got the gist of it, I'm not sure if it left me with just ENG S-Off or Radio S-Off as well.
Is there a way to check for both?
Cheers.

You can check in bootloader it will say if you are eng off or not and if your cid is 1111111111 your radio s off too
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

- hold power button and select reboot then ok
- after hitting ok, wait 1 sec then press and hold power + vol down
- the phone will enter bootloader mode
at the very 1st line it should say ENG S-OFF
for RADIO S-OFF
- press vol down until you get more info
- if you see CID11111 that means you have RADIO S-OFF
else you don't

Excellent, thanks very much to both of you..........

Mine says
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT.0.85.0007
....
...
...
...
..
What does that mean?
What s-off do I have?

Defectus said:
Mine says
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT.0.85.0007
....
...
...
...
..
What does that mean?
What s-off do I have?
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That is only radio s-off.i believe
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Defectus said:
Mine says
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT.0.85.0007
....
...
...
...
..
What does that mean?
What s-off do I have?
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Indeed that is radio s-off.
Hboot s-off looks like "ACE PVT ENG S-OFF"
The ENG stands for engineering.

Thanks guys. It's a bit confusing.
I'm gonna flash a new radio today. Do I only need radio s-off or do i need eng -s-off too?
If so, i guess you can apply it after you've radio s-off'ed?
Edit: So now I used the s-off easy one click tool.
Now I have ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
Do I still have the radio s-off?
As joliko stated you can have both. How does that work anyway?

Once you've entered the bootloader (Volume down + power on) if it says eng s-off you obviously have eng s-off you then select system info or something like that and it says the CID:xxxx. For example my phone which is now radio locked due to loading LeeDroid 1.3 based on the latest 1.72.405.3 ROM and not realising I needed to run Radio s-off says CID-VODAP021. What you want is CID:1111111 (not sure how many 1's but you get the idea). My advice after reading many pages it make absolutely sure you have radio s-off before running any updates or flashing any ROMs period. It is also highly reccomended to have eng s-off and also super user access (root access). From what I have read Radio s-off is a higher or more superior access to eng s-off. Having Radio s-off (otherwise known as Super CID) enables you to unlock any simlock and also load the latest HTC 1.72.405.3 ROM without loosing any root access or s-off.

Yoshi_523 said:
Once you've entered the bootloader (Volume down + power on) if it says eng s-off you obviously have eng s-off you then select system info or something like that and it says the CID:xxxx. For example my phone which is now radio locked due to loading LeeDroid 1.3 based on the latest 1.72.405.3 ROM and not realising I needed to run Radio s-off says CID-VODAP021. What you want is CID:1111111 (not sure how many 1's but you get the idea). My advice after reading many pages it make absolutely sure you have radio s-off before running any updates or flashing any ROMs period. It is also highly reccomended to have eng s-off and also super user access (root access). From what I have read Radio s-off is a higher or more superior access to eng s-off. Having Radio s-off (otherwise known as Super CID) enables you to unlock any simlock and also load the latest HTC 1.72.405.3 ROM without loosing any root access or s-off.
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actually you have more options with eng-s off as you can use fastboot commands. were if you just only had radio-s off you can't use fastboot but your right in the fact that you won't lose s-off were eng s-off is just the hboot been patched an so flashing new firmware with upgraded hboot you will lose the sercurity been off.

how do i know if I am ENG or Radio S-OFF
BOOTLOADER says:
VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.09.0000
RADIO - 3805.04.03.22_M
eMMC-boot
what does that mean?
I am planning to change my radio to be compatible with ARHD 1.1.2

radio s-off but no eng hboot
Sent out of my Free Candy Van.

Before, after I had used Easy Eng S-Off Tool, I had Ship S-Off. After that I found out I can't flash splash img using fast boot, I ran the tool again and I had now Eng S-Off.
But in the system info, the CID is not 111111.
Does that means I had lost my Radio S-Off?
I'm now on CyanogenMod7 RC-1 with Eng S-Off.
I just now tried this One click Radio S-OFF (windows recognized well my DHD in Device Manager), but it said "Unknown Error, probably connections" (usb cable works fine).
Edit: I restored the backed-up rooted 1.32 and do Radio S-Off. Things ran smooth. Now I have both Eng S-Off and CID 11111.
And by doing so I realized how big Sense Roms are. Clean backed-up rooted Sense 1.32 = 525MB. TB Fusion 3d (Sense 2.1 + 3.0) with some apps (not big): 765 MB. Clean MIUI 1.7.5 = 232 MB. CM7 RC1 with many apps = 457 MB.

Hboot 1.02.0000

Can I downgrade Hboot 1.02.0000 to get S-OFF?

Cherokee007 said:
Can I downgrade Hboot 1.02.0000 to get S-OFF?
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I also wanted to know how to downgrade the hboot 1.0.2. other way is that alpharev update version of its software and included in this a patch for the new version hboot.
continue in the search.

lordstein said:
I also wanted to know how to downgrade the hboot 1.0.2. other way is that alpharev update version of its software and included in this a patch for the new version hboot.
continue in the search.
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try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277266

just to be clear - this doesn't work
There is no S-OFF for HBOOT 1.02.0000 on the MT3GS.
In your travels you may have also found links to this encouraging post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1277266
I've tried this method, walked through it all, even tried some other things and generally wasted a lot of time...
So just to be clear for those searching and finding this wonderful link to a possible method... IT DOESN'T WORK.
ESPRESSO PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT 1.02.0000
cm7.1
and used to have S-OFF until the F*&ing warranty replacement came 2.2.1ing along

HTC lets you unlock your bootloader
go to htc or look on here and you should find out how to do it its for us with 1.02 but i havent been able to do it let and having a unlocked bootloader is the same thing just for the hboot 1.02 like s-off is for hboots lower i hope i helped

[Q] Searching Stock HBOOT 1.03 (accidentally downgraded)

Hi Everybody
My Marvel is S-OFF (by XTC) and had HBOOT 1.03 with CMR 5.0.2.6 (thx alquez) when I flashed the Europe Stock ROM*.
This is 1:1 the same ROM version that was already installed, so I thought it won't change anything.
But it downgraded HBOOT 1.03 to 0.90 - and of course I don't have a backup (so stupid - I know!).
Device is still S-OFF and running, but I'm not sure if HBOOT 1.03 would be better? I also couldn't find HBOOT 1.03 anywhere.
That's why I would like to ask for some advice. Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards,
jimbows
* "RUU_Marvel_HTC_Europe_1.33.401.2_Radio_47.10.35.30 29H_7.46.35.08_release_185724_signed"
Device Details:
MARVEL PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-0.90.0000
MICROP-0451
RADIO-7.46.35.08
Apr 8 2011,17:45:10
ROM: 1.33.401.2

I think you would only get it back if you flashed official RUU. However, you shouldn't encounter any problems with older version... you're still S-OFF and rooted which is all that really matters
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

I don't know how you are going to mash this into your phone, but here it is ( I think)
*not it

@CitizenLee, thank you for your advice. I'll probably have to wait for a new official RUU to be on the safe side.
@thehumble1, thank you too for finding this.
I could try "fastboot flash hboot *.nb0" - but I don't know if I should risk it :/
Just out of curiosity, what's the source of the file?
I also found "hboot_1.03.0000_cdf32d1_R2.nb0" in
"OTA_Marvel_HTC_ARA_1.47.415.1_R3-1.33.401.2_release_1962180a3pobq6iq5cju2t.zip".

This is from the TMoUS exe rom:
RUU_Marvel_TMOUS_1.62.531.3_Radio_47.10f.35.3032_7.48.36.17M_release_202047_signed.exe
I started the ROM, found the ROM.zip file and opened it to get the hboot file.
pretty sure that fastboot should work then for putting it on.

[Q] DHD doesn`t boot after original OTA update

Hi Folks,
a little problem here with my Desire HD.
what i had:
Original Desire HD (no root, no nothing)
I made an OTA update in my working Phone.
Update starts, ends with Mistake and from now on I see only the white Background and the htc logo.
what i did there after:
Readed thousands of manualy how to root, to get s-off, a newer radio or whatelse..
I updated the Bootloader from 2.00.0027 to 2.00.0029
Unlocked the Bootloader with htcdev
Updated the Recovery Image to ClockworkMod Recovery v5.8.0.0
Flashed a CyanogenMod
Locked Bootloader again
But it doesnt start -.-
Bootloader says:
*** RELOCKED***
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
H-BOOT-2.00.0029
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.14.52.27
eMMC-boot
Dec 22 2011, 14:28:19
At the moment i Dont know what to do?
Must i downgrade my HBOOT? But how, without working Android?
Must i do it to "ACE PCT ENG S-OFF" But how, without working Android? *G*
Must i change the Radio version?
Pls help me a bit out of it a bit

Did you flash the boot.img before you relocked?

bananagranola said:
Did you flash the boot.img before you relocked?
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no, and i see that this is the problem.
thanks man.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168500 the third part helped out (do it with all points )

[Q] S-OFF WFS a510b!???

If someone know it is possible to s-off on htc wildfire s a510b please tell me..
this is information
MARVEL PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-0.90
MICROP-0451
RADIO-7.46.35.08
SOFTWARE NUMBER 2.26.841.4
BASEBAND 47.10.35.3029H_7.46.35.08
ANDROID VERSION 2.3.5
..So i already try create goldcard with no succes..also flashing via pg76img file,update ruu files and so many other staff..:crying:
read almost everything about this phone on xda...if someone know how to s-off pls..write it..
I would very much appriciete yours help...

sanoxxx said:
If someone know it is possible to s-off on htc wildfire s a510b please tell me..
this is information
MARVEL PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-0.90
MICROP-0451
RADIO-7.46.35.08
SOFTWARE NUMBER 2.26.841.4
BASEBAND 47.10.35.3029H_7.46.35.08
ANDROID VERSION 2.3.5
..So i already try create goldcard with no succes..also flashing via pg76img file,update ruu files and so many other staff..:crying:
read almost everything about this phone on xda...if someone know how to s-off pls..write it..
I would very much appriciete yours help...
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If I remember correctly your hboot was exploitable when HTC released the first method to unlock via htcdev. The send out 2 downloads the first was a hboot and the second was a radio update. If people flashed the second one first the phone became s-off because some of the partitioning changed. You could try that if you can find the files but your phone model seems strange to me. May I ask what country you got the phone in?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk

heavy_metal_man said:
If I remember correctly your hboot was exploitable when HTC released the first method to unlock via htcdev. The send out 2 downloads the first was a hboot and the second was a radio update. If people flashed the second one first the phone became s-off because some of the partitioning changed. You could try that if you can find the files but your phone model seems strange to me. May I ask what country you got the phone in?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk
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Country is Bosnia&Herzegovina
I search it for that files but i can't find it anywhere!!!
thnx for your help anyway...