Today morning I got a mail from developerATbadaDOTcom(i can't post e-mail address due to low post count ) for bada 2.0.0 b1 sdk release. Ya I got the access to the sdk , many others also might have got the mail. In that they had mentioned new features of the sdk followed by notes. One thing which they had mentioned in the notes was a bit questionable. It said : You cannot use NFC and Wi-Fi direct features in previously released bada devices due to hardware limitations. Upcoming devices with full support are required.
Does this mean users of S8500, S8530 and other WAVE models won't have Wi-Fi direct or does it seems to be a mistake from their side to mention it like that?
Sorry to post in this section, I couldn't post in Bada Software Development, again due to lack of posts.
no
Wifi-direct is not the same as NFC
Wave I & II doesn't have NFC chip so they can't use NFC apps
it is so normal to get this
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I know that working of NFC requires some hardware. Just wanted to know the same about Wi-Fi direct.
wifi direct will not be available on all 'old' wave models, wifi-direct technology needs different hardware (like 802.11N do not work on old 802.11G chip..)
I was under impression that it can be supported through software if the device is Wi-Fi capable. Thanks for clarifying it.
guari said:
wifi direct will not be available on all 'old' wave models, wifi-direct technology needs different hardware (like 802.11N do not work on old 802.11G chip..)
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As I know, Wifi direct don´t need new hardware because is only a protocol over Wifi.
802.11N vs 802.11G is different, because it operates in different frequences, so it needs different hardware.
The galaxy S has wifi direct feature(as mentioned in wikipedia).... So probably the wave and wave 2 has it too... I think the devices that support wifi hotspot feature can use wifi direct.....
Wifi Direct & Bluetooth 3.0:
1.Transfer speed : almost similar to Bluetooth 3.0(7.28 mb in 27 sec @ 2.15mbps video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7UhqLu4hKg from 1:00)
2.Other possibilities: In gaming wifi direct could make multiplayer connection, etc......
Anyways most of us use Bluetooth & wifi direct mostly for file transfer, we would not be losing any great feature from our waves but those who need wifi direct for other purposes which is not available in Bluetooth 3.0 would be a bit unhappy in-case we don't get Wifi direct.
wave s8500 and s8530
both have 802.11 b/g/n
that means it can operate wifi direct
but not NFC because it needs extra hardware
I correct myself, wifi-direct needs particoular hardware but probably wave s8500/8530 have it. (wikipedia says galaxy S is certified for wifi-direct and the hardware is probably the same)
jake792 said:
Wifi Direct & Bluetooth 3.0:
1.Transfer speed : almost similar to Bluetooth 3.0
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I read at various places that Wi-Fi direct can achieve max speed of the standard the device supports, means a 802.11n compatible device can achieve a speed of 300Mbps (theoretical) when connected via WiFi direct. So it might be a plus over Bluetooth 3.0.
mayank7_d said:
I read at various places that Wi-Fi direct can achieve max speed of the standard the device supports, means a 802.11n compatible device can achieve a speed of 300Mbps (theoretical) when connected via WiFi direct. So it might be a plus over Bluetooth 3.0.
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Oops.. Sorry for a misguiding video... here is the one which shows the real capability of Wifi direct:http://thehandheldblog.com/2011/06/20/wifi-direct-galaxy-s2/
Theoretically Wave should have wifi direct because:
1. Galaxy s is wifi direct certified device
2. Wave & Galaxy s have same wifi chip Broadcomm bmc4329.
source: Galaxy s:http://www.ubmtechinsights.com/reports-and-subscriptions/investigative-analysis/samsung-galaxy-s/
Wave:http://www.ubmtechinsights.com/reports-and-subscriptions/investigative-analysis/samsung-galaxy-s/
Hoping for wifi direct on wave........
I asked @samsungbada on twitter regarding this. Now awaiting their reply. In the meanwhile can anyone who has upgraded to leaked bada 2.0 confirm that Wi-Fi direct is there or not?
I can confirm that it is not there
wave supports wifi direct
read its data sheet!
the firmware has wifi direct named as all share!!!!!!...........lol
It is not the same
look at this video to understand what we mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCEawDprnOQ
mylove90 said:
It is not the same
look at this video to understand what we mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCEawDprnOQ
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It's just like quick setup or PBS feature. The speeds are nothing special. Standard Wan Speeds. Should be possible on Wave.
Are you sure about Wave don't supporting NFC? I read somewhere that Wave has this chip. What about gold pins next to case opening button?
NFC is definitely not there, still unclear about Wi-Fi direct.
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does our xperia play will get a bluetooth tethering in its new official update of android 4?
I tested the rom by doomlord, it has bluetooth tethering option in settings, but it didn't worked. Anyone knows, where we are going to get that?
Bluetooth tethering? Lol. Bluetooth tethering is not even needed nowadays as most of the gadgets in today's times already come with Bluetooth preloaded.
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
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does our xperia play will get a bluetooth tethering in its new official update of android 4?
I tested the rom by doomlord, it has bluetooth tethering option in settings, but it didn't worked. Anyone knows, where we are going to get that?
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Chances are "No" for getting BT tether or DUN via BT in the official ICS release. BT is remarkably slow for most devices, even with EDR BT 2.x+ , Really need to be using BT 3 or BT 4 to see any kind of decent PAN speeds.
Still, I've seen a few apps that do tethering that support bluetooth. I think "Barnacle" supports it, if it likes your chipset. Although they may have removed it in more recent versions.
It is possible to do if you have root (or the right ROM), but is unlikely to be very supported. Most people prefer WiFi tethering.
Silverstarjigar said:
does our xperia play will get a bluetooth tethering in its new official update of android 4?
I tested the rom by doomlord, it has bluetooth tethering option in settings, but it didn't worked. Anyone knows, where we are going to get that?
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do you realise how slow bluetooth is?
ryocoon said:
Chances are "No" for getting BT tether or DUN via BT in the official ICS release. BT is remarkably slow for most devices, even with EDR BT 2.x+ , Really need to be using BT 3 or BT 4 to see any kind of decent PAN speeds.
Still, I've seen a few apps that do tethering that support bluetooth. I think "Barnacle" supports it, if it likes your chipset. Although they may have removed it in more recent versions.
It is possible to do if you have root (or the right ROM), but is unlikely to be very supported. Most people prefer WiFi tethering.
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fma965 said:
do you realise how slow bluetooth is?
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+1 on the why would you bother its so slow
hello everybody,
as i understand from HTC website that NFC is for communicating 2 devices that has the NFC chip installed (Near Field Communication) .
is that TRUE?
or im missing something here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1600963
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604276
http://www.nfclabels.com/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jwsoft.nfcactionlauncher&hl=en
Thank you dansharpy,
but as u can see in my post i'm little confused here!!
and sorry all these link i've been through before that's why i got confused.
From HTC Website
http://www.htc.com/mideast/help/htc-one-x/#faq
Q: What is NFC?
A: Near Field Communications (NFC) is a wireless technology that makes nearby devices communicate with each other as simple as a touch or being close to it.
NOTE 1: The close-proximity makes the transaction more secure.
NOTE 2: Smartphones will have a chip that will enable the two-way communication by either touching them together or being on a close proximity.
Imagine it as a short range bluetooth that can read 'tags' and transfer information between devices (i.e. android beam sends contacts between 2 devices with NFC)
Hope that helps!
dansharpy said:
Imagine it as a short range bluetooth that can read 'tags' and transfer information between devices (i.e. android beam sends contacts between 2 devices with NFC)
Hope that helps!
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Thank you! dude
bought wave II s8530 a month ago and when wifi is ON the signal strength is 40-70% even i am in front of wireless router, and if i go in another room the signal is loosing or barely gets 10%. i had nokia e72 before and in front of wireless router i got 100%, and in another room like 50-80% of the signal, so its not the wireless router.
if its for help i flashed team elite 3.0 for this device, but the problem persist before i flash.
i spotted today if the bottom of the wave is showing to the router i get 95% wifi signal, if i change that position i get 40-60%(every refreshing is different value). the results are from BadaSI.
other information, GSM, GPS and BT are with no problems-no weak signal.
sw ver: s8530xxlb1 and csc ver: s8530xenlb1
please someone advice me how to solve this problem. tnx
hello
I am afraid, we have to live with this problem. almost every wave phone has this problem.
So far there is no solution to it.
if anyone knows it please let us know.
Maybe difference between bada 1.x and bada 2...
Because I have same problem...
Will investigate...
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I know that modder psycoy, in his custom (here) made something; this is changelog:
Exclusive Patch WiFi/Data booster
But I don't know what he do!
watch to /SystemFS/Driver/ directory, here you can find hardware settings into .txt files for wlan, camera, bluetooth, speaker.. etc
i am noob with this so please tell us what to do.
i found that folder with stune, and i see these files.
guari said:
watch to /SystemFS/Driver/ directory, here you can find hardware settings into .txt files for wlan, camera, bluetooth, speaker.. etc
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Thanks, but I compared them with WinMerge and they are the same
mm... when I search for hardware settings I found them only here...
alternatively it could be replaced the wifi related .so driver file with one more performing of another firmware version (if exists)..
anyway, in case of bad wifi signal, be sure that your are assigning the correct ip address to your wave (not one assigned to other network components..) and that your network is on a low used channel..
the percentage value reported by bada API could be wrong like eg. the battery percentage (as the one read by badaSI), with my S8500 I can connect to my router (G protocol, not even N) up to 10-12 meters of distance through multiple rooms.
Other solution to improve connection speed/stability can be by tweaking the TCP/IP parameters by forcing the protocol to be more agressive but I don't know how doing this on bada..
this is the wifi drivers files
bada 1.2 and bada 2.0
Thanks guary! However there aren't .so files in psycoy lupin III CFW (I don't find them). It's so strange
I am looking to purchase one of those new Fitbit Flex bands and i saw that it only does android devices that support bluetooth 4.0. On there website it seems like the only phones they have is galaxy 3 and note 2. Is there anyway for us galaxy nexus owners to get bluetooth 4.0??
Adding Bluetooth 4.0 support into the Galaxy Nexus would require an hardware change. There's no way to add support as a software/firmware update.
It would be like asking to transform a USB mouse into a wireless mouse. The required hardware just isn't present in the wired mouse to easily do it.
Bluetooth 4.0 can be made backward-compatible, as it can contain classic bluetooth connectivity and offers two additional operation modes: Bluetooth High Speed and Bluetooth Low Energy.
If your host device isn't Bluetooth 4.0 compliant and the device that is connecting is compliant with dual mode implementation, it will attempt to make a classic Bluetooth connection (obviously without the new features like either High Speed or Low Energy modes).
I would suggest finding out which Bluetooth 4.0 implementation mode the Fitbit Flex was used (single mode or dual-mode). If it is made with Bluetooth 4.0 dual-mode, you'll be able to use it with your Galaxy Nexus. If not, you'll have to wait until you upgrade your device to a Bluetooth 4.0-compliant model.
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Adding Bluetooth 4.0 support into the Galaxy Nexus would require an hardware change. There's no way to add support as a software/firmware update.
It would be like asking to transform a USB mouse into a wireless mouse. The required hardware just isn't present in the wired mouse to easily do it.
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After doing some searching it seems to be because google is too lazy to help us out at the moment. IT IS POSSIBLE and doesnt require hardware change, just drivers. Which then makes me think..Im surprised all these guys on XDA cant make a driver, but im not exactly sure what that entails so im sure its harder than it sounds.
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I have PX6-HA5393-MAX10-CP updated with the VIVID10. Loving everything about that, however I purchased a Cobra SC201 dashcam with 5.0 Bluetooth and dual band 2.4ghz & 5 ghz wifi. My head unit cannot recognize either of the dashcam's Bluetooth or wifi networks to connect. The dash cam is visible and accessible with other devices such as phone and laptop. Only the head unit can't detect the dashcams wifi or Bluetooth networks to connect. The head unit is 2.4 ghz wifi only and the dash cam claims it's dual wifi (2.4/5.0 ghz). Both claim 5.0 Bluetooth. I have tried manually adding and connecting to dash cams wifi using different encryption keys with no success. Same issue before update to VIVID10 also.
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I have PX6-HA5393-MAX10-CP updated with the VIVID10. Loving everything about that, however I purchased a Cobra SC201 dashcam with 5.0 Bluetooth and dual band 2.4ghz & 5 ghz wifi. My head unit cannot recognize either of the dashcam's Bluetooth or wifi networks to connect. The dash cam is visible and accessible with other devices such as phone and laptop. Only the head unit can't detect the dashcams wifi or Bluetooth networks to connect. The head unit is 2.4 ghz wifi only and the dash cam claims it's dual wifi (2.4/5.0 ghz). Both claim 5.0 Bluetooth. I have tried manually adding and connecting to dash cams wifi using different encryption keys with no success. Same issue before update to VIVID10 also.
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- The Bluetooth is crippled and only works for phones and certain obd adapters
- The max10 can't do 5ghz... only 2.4
- The camera software will not do wifi cams.
Bob_Sanders said:
- The Bluetooth is crippled and only works for phones and certain obd adapters
- The max10 can't do 5ghz... only 2.4
- The camera software will not do wifi cams.
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Bob,
Thanks for the follow up! Has anyone been able to successfully bypass the internal wifi/Bluetooth with USB wifi/Bluetooth adapter installs on these Android head units. I've read rumors of wifi bypass of others that know someone, but have yet to find any helpful links. Also not sure I follow regarding the camera software not doing wifi cams. Are you referring to Dasaita's DVR camera apps?
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Are you referring to Dasaita's DVR camera apps?
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As far as I know... yes. The app is trained to look for cams on usb and on the dedicated dvr cam plugin. I have not been able to get it to look elsewhere for cameras.
From what I understand, some people have had LIMITED success with usb bluetooth adapters. Some have managed to get them recognized, but then they operate in the same crippled fashion. The bluetooth regardless of what bluetooth system you use, will only recognize phones and some basic obd2 adapters and as far as I know, no one has been able to work around that.... and this is not just Dasaita... but pretty much all of them.
would rooting fix this limitation?
Bump - anyone out there was able to get Bluetooth for anything other than phones/OBD devices to work with any of these Android head units?
I have tried three off-the-shelf Bluetooth dongles and playing with the BT "drivers?" in the list for BT under Factory settings (i.e Head Unit > Settings > Car > Factory Settings > BT).
No luck!
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Bump - anyone out there was able to get Bluetooth for anything other than phones/OBD devices to work with any of these Android head units?
I have tried three off-the-shelf Bluetooth dongles and playing with the BT "drivers?" in the list for BT under Factory settings (i.e Head Unit > Settings > Car > Factory Settings > BT).
No luck!
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No, you cannot. See above posts.
UIS7862 FYT based units work, including BLE.