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What is using my battery??? not a whine thread

I have been getting terrible battery life since I mistakenly reset the battery statistics in recovery.
I have recalibrated my battery, but I am only getting like 8 hours.
What can I use to see what is using the battery? I think there is something in spare parts, but I am not sure what to look at there.
Any apps or methods would help me determine what is chewing it up is much appreciated.

Bielinsk said:
I have been getting terrible battery life since I mistakenly reset the battery statistics in recovery.
I have recalibrated my battery, but I am only getting like 8 hours.
What can I use to see what is using the battery? I think there is something in spare parts, but I am not sure what to look at there.
Any apps or methods would help me determine what is chewing it up is much appreciated.
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It could just be that your phone is incorrectly reporting how much battery life you have since you reset them, and a couple days of usage will just allow it to gather more data and get more accurate.
But if there is an errant app draining your battery, a combination of spare parts and an app called SystemPanel should allow you to narrow it down to what's causing problems.
Plug your phone in for a minute, then unplug it, let the phone sit with the screen off for 25 minutes or so, then go to spare parts->Battery History, then choose other usage and since last unplugged. The running % should be close to the screen on %. If the running % is way higher than screen on, that means something is running while your screen is off.
I paid for the full version of systempanel for the system monitoring feature, but i think you can use the free version to just check which apps are running. Things like google voice should say running, but just about everything else should say background. If you have an app that you downloaded, but haven't been using in a while saying service, there's a good chance that's what's causing your phone to run the batteries out. Garbage apps like Grooveshark (which I still use because I can't live without grooveshark) will run even after you could have sworn you closed out of them.
The paid version of systempanel makes things easier because you can set it to monitor, then come back and look at what apps have been using cpu cycles even when the phone isn't being used. The system processes are always going to use cpu cycles, but apps like Swype will (or did at one point) keep the phone from properly sleeping, and you can tell by all the cpu they're using even when the screen is off.

Ah, that is a good point. 2 apps that I did change were I installed Tiger Text (neat app but rather sure that drains the juice) and I put on a different version of swype.
Thanks for the tips, I will run with that.

More reading I am doing I think the mistake I made, is that I reset my battery statistics when my battery was only half full.
I put in a full battery, reset statistics, and will let it drain, that should calibrate the phone correctly.
Thanks for the tips though, I will keep those in mind.

[Q] A Case for Task Killing?

First, the set up.
I have an Incredible running Skyraider 2.52 with the 2.6.32.15-adrynalyne kernel. I use SetCPU to set some rather aggressive battery preservation, chief among them being the profile that sets the CPU to 245mHz on screen off (using the Powersave scaling so as to eliminate CPU polling). I have Autokiller set to near absurd levels (the Ultimate preset). I even use Autorun Killer to disable some nonsense apps from starting at boot. Needless to say, battery is a priority.
Also, I should note that I am using the 1750 mah Seido battery.
This morning, I charged my phone to 100% (even a little beyond that, as I charged it with the phone off, but not until I hit the green). I unplugged the phone from my car charger at 9:20 AM. Wifi, Bluetooth, and mobile network were all off. I literally did not touch my phone for the next ten minutes, and yet...
By 9:30 AM, I was at 90%!
I quickly started up Froyo Task Killer, which allows me to force stop programs through Android's own task management. I closed several useless but likeable apps (like ONN and G4) and put my phone back in my pocket.
By 12:47 PM, after not touching the phone again, I was at 80%.
Clearly, you can see the difference in battery usage while otherwise in standby.
Is this a clear case for killing tasks, or is there something else at play? I know that task killers are a cause for serious debate, and 2.2 doesn't play nice with them, but this is a pretty weird case.

You're making an assumption that the battery discharge rate (or rather the displayed rate) is linear. In my experience, this is not the case.

You make an excellent point. However, in most ordinary circumstances, and certainly while running stock Eclair, I usually found that the first 10% battery drain took longer, certainly longer than 10 minutes.
Either way, 1% per hour is, all strange battery magic aside, pretty remarkable for a phone that is in standby with screen off in pocket. Especially when given the lengths I've gone to in attempts to extend said battery life.

once froyo hit i uninstalled my task killer.... haven't looked back since.
I currently run SystemPanel by NextApp.
It will prove to you that task killing is practically a placebo but I highly recommend it just to be aware of whats ACTUALLY killing your battery.
I use the stock battery and the OEM 1500mah. I am pretty happy with what I can get out of the extra capacity battery.
Try turning off 3G when you don't need it using the HTC widget.

If you can't stand the stock apps that always start up on your phone but don't want to delete them do as I did and get the full version of titanium backup (3.99) and freeze all the apps. Out will pretty much just like the name says, freeze the apps. You can then thaw them out when you need them.
I got almost 2 days up time and like 12 of those were up on the 1500 battery. Now I have the 2150 i am at 50 hours up and 10 hours awake with still 50 percent to go, that's first charge too, can't wait till it breaks in
Oh and I was reading somewhere that one of the roms has a problem like that. It might be the skyraider
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If you can't stand the stock apps that always start up on your phone but don't want to delete them do as I did and get the full version of titanium backup (3.99) and freeze all the apps. Out will pretty much just like the name says, freeze the apps. You can then thaw them out when you need them.
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Autostarts would probably be an easier way of doing this.

kensikora said:
You make an excellent point. However, in most ordinary circumstances, and certainly while running stock Eclair, I usually found that the first 10% battery drain took longer, certainly longer than 10 minutes.
Either way, 1% per hour is, all strange battery magic aside, pretty remarkable for a phone that is in standby with screen off in pocket. Especially when given the lengths I've gone to in attempts to extend said battery life.
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why would you bother having a smartphone if your intent is to leave it in the pocket? I get about 24+ hrs uptime one one charge (stock bat). Generally on WiFi, GPS, and Max Brightness for half of it.
Charge at work since I'm at my desk and no problems. Battery life is great, but if you don't want to use the phone in attempts to get max life, seems quite pointless to own such a powerful device.
Skyraider 3.1

You can go into battery info in the settings and see what is causing battery drain.
In my experience, most drain is when I'm inside a building with poor reception and my phone is on overdrive trying to find signal. Usually I turn on airplane mode and use WiFi if that's the case.
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Maybe its the kernel. Also I would stop killing the apps, not to save battery but because since they were stopped by the user, the Android system might start them up again almost instantaneously. But this depends on core processes and weather Android is done processing any info or other stuff from that app.
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MMBosstones86 said:
why would you bother having a smartphone if your intent is to leave it in the pocket?
Skyraider 3.1
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I am not aiming for battery life alone, but I like to leave work and not need to recharge for an hour before I head out. I leave it in my pocket at work because, well, I'm at work. Although I do usually get in a few levels of Angry Birds or Shoot U.
The question is, how can I minimize battery use when my phone is idle so that I have the battery to screw around with it when I want to or have time.
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mihneagabriel said:
If you can't stand the stock apps that always start up on your phone but don't want to delete them do as I did and get the full version of titanium backup (3.99) and freeze all the apps.
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I never knew what that did. I knew the feature existed, but hadn't bothered looking into it. I already bought the full version for totally hands-free installs, so I guess I can now take care of Peep and Flickr.
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Autostarts would probably be an easier way of doing this.
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I had never heard of Autostarts. I seem to find that any apps that aim to disable startup entries always fail to list the apps I am most interested in blocking, but for 90 cents, I am definitely willing to give it a shot.
Edit: I haven't had a chance to determine its effect on battery life, but Autostarts is brilliant. It makes so much more sense to actually change startup entries than to try and stop a task after it starts. I also was unaware of how many events trigger apps to start. That is one powerful app.
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The 10% drop at the beginning has nothing to do with apps or task killing. It's a bug, the battery isn't telling the software the correct percentage it is at. Killing apps won't do anything to fix it.
If you want to 'fix' it, do a bump charge. Turn off your phone when it hits green, keep it charging till it hits green again.

[Q] How to super Optimized Tmo Sammy S2 for best battery performace?

So I switched from the iphone with edge to the Tmo S2 with Jugg 5.0 ROM + Go Launcher. I really appreciate the 4g speed. However, the overall experience is not as smooth as the iphone and the battery life sucks big time. I normally have to constantly plug the phone in whenever I can. It works ok when I'm at work but when I'm out all day my battery won't last more than half a day. It's so bad to the extent that I have to turn off my phone and turn on when I need to call or text so I can keep the phone alive the whole day. I tried Juice Defender but it didn't help my battery at all.
Yesterday I spent a few hours on XDA and I came up with these solution to my battery problem:
+DarkSide Digital Warfare v2.7 ROM (couldn't find 2.5.1 version)
+Flash Synergy Kernel over (supposed to give better battery)
+SetCPU app (auto detection)
+Zeam launcher
So far, it seems to be better on the battery. Is there anything else I could add to make my battery last longer? I need the phone to last at least the whole day without charge. I'm constantly on 4g looking up stocks, reading news, email, google voice, grooveip, facebook, turn by turn navigation, music, netflix, youtube ...
Thanks,

Welcome to Android.
From what it appears, you seem to be a heavy user. The most you can get out of a Android device with heavy usage is 3/4 of a day (14-18hrs) tops.
You have 2 choices, either you travel with the power cord not to far away and plug it when you need it or you invest a whooping 10$ and buy another battery.
There are tricks to keeping your battery healthy but lasting all day as a heavy user will be very difficult.

If this is a new phone it takes a week or so for the battery to settle in a hold a charge well. After a week or so you'll notice your battery is lasting longer. Also make sure that nothing is keeping your phone awake 100%. Some apps don't play nice and cause issues. Welcome to Android.
Note: navigation kills battery fast, when your using it try to plug into a car charger or something.
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There are a lot of things you can do to improve battery.
1. Juice Defender (which you say you have already tried)
2. Limit the number of widgets you run or run no widgets like I do
3. Turn the screen brightness down all the way
4. Don't use Live Wallpaper, also, try to pick a dark coloured wallpaper since white/light colours seem to use up more battery.
5. Uninstall apps you don't use.
6. Turn off GPS unless you need to use it.
7. Turn off sync completely or only have your gmail sync. I don't need to be notified when I get a facebook message so I don't need it syncing every few minutes or every hour, I can check that manually myself.
8. Turn off animations.
9. Close background apps that are running that you aren't using.
10. Use Task Manager to close open apps when you are done using it. Task Manger is your friend.
11. Enable Power Saver Mode.
etc etc.
Those are the main things that I tend to do. I plug my phone in every night before I go to bed as well so I am not sure how long my battery actually lasts. But typically after 16hrs of use I still have 60% battery when I go to bed.
Currently my phone has been on for 7hrs 15mins and I have 87% battery. So you can do the math. I am not as heavy a user as you seem to be, but hope this helps. Peace.

Check out this video it helps show you how to save battery. Enjoy!

Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
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1. Juice Defender (which you say you have already tried)
2. Limit the number of widgets you run or run no widgets like I do
3. Turn the screen brightness down all the way
4. Don't use Live Wallpaper, also, try to pick a dark coloured wallpaper since white/light colours seem to use up more battery.
5. Uninstall apps you don't use.
6. Turn off GPS unless you need to use it.
7. Turn off sync completely or only have your gmail sync. I don't need to be notified when I get a facebook message so I don't need it syncing every few minutes or every hour, I can check that manually myself.
8. Turn off animations.
9. Close background apps that are running that you aren't using.
10. Use Task Manager to close open apps when you are done using it. Task Manger is your friend.
11. Enable Power Saver Mode.
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I'm up 5hr 45mins on battery and my battery is at 41%. Let's see if it will last for today. I will put Juice Defender in tonight to test out the battery tomorrow.

DroidNo0b said:
Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
I'm up 5hr 45mins on battery and my battery is at 41%. Let's see if it will last for today. I will put Juice Defender in tonight to test out the battery tomorrow.
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You could run Juggernaut with Faux Kernel and Gideon's battery scripts. Or Telus T989D stock ROM lightly tweaked with same kernel and script. Got good results on those as well. Good luck.

Btw, has anyone had tremendous increase in battery life using the after market extended battery?
Thanks,

Use fox star rom
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DroidNo0b said:
Btw, has anyone had tremendous increase in battery life using the after market extended battery?
Thanks,
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If you are talking about extended batteries that don't require a custom enlarged back cover, you will not get the battery increase that you are looking for, not even close. I cannot speak for the heavy duty ones that require an enlarged back as I do not own one

Gideon's scripts are great with Juggs. Underclock it as well like 384-1080 is a great setting. Also let die all the way down and charge all the way up and repeat for a few cycles. And don't stare at your phone every few seconds either lol! Another thing are the notification lighting buttons at the bottom. Drop to 1.5 seconds.
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yoft1 said:
If you are talking about extended batteries that don't require a custom enlarged back cover, you will not get the battery increase that you are looking for, not even close. I cannot speak for the heavy duty ones that require an enlarged back as I do not own one
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I have the extended 3800mah battery. It's insanely fat and makes the phone look hideous. On top of that I really don't feel like the battery lasts all that long at all. It's in my pocket all day at school and by 3:30 I'm at 35%. This thing cost me 65$. Total ripoff. I'd suggest spending 20$ and buying two more regular batteries. See what that does for you all
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A few things you can do on ANY ROM to improve battery life.
*) Decrease screen timeout to the lowest possible setting.
*) Adjust screen brightness to the lowest level you can tolerate.
*) Decrease the backlight key timeout to the lowest setting ( or off if you have the option )
*) Be sure to only have wifi and gps on if you are using them.
Those will help quite a bit in general however, a ROM like Juggs is meant to really take advantage of the power of your device so its probably wise to move to a different one if max battery is your goal. I love Juggs but had to move on to the AOSP stuff. Also, heed the advice above, allow the ROM a few days to "settle" before making a switch or even a judgement of its performance.

Thanks for the replies guys. So my phone lasted for 9hrs today which is a little bit of improvement. I was streaming netflix for half an hr on the train on the way back home so that may have drained the battery. I have just installed JD, will post back how it goes tomorrow.
So the extended battery is a no go eh. I really don't want to lug around a few extra batteries. I want to carry as little as possible. I normally carry my phone and my ipad but now I tend to not use the ipad much now because the S2 screen is pretty gigantic for a phone.

DroidNo0b said:
Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
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I know the point was already made but just to reiterate, you can get 2 Anker extended batteries (same size as regular battery) and a universal charger for like $20. This will leave you with three batteries. One for the charger, one for the pocket, and one for the phone. With this system its pretty easy to always have one full battery ready to go and one charging. The battery is small and can just go in your pocket, or maybe even in your wallet depending on your preferences. It solves the problem completely. I don't think you are going to do much better because if you are a heavy user then your battery is going to be used because your phone isn't going to be sleeping.
Good luck.

tablador said:
I know the point was already made but just to reiterate, you can get 2 Anker extended batteries (same size as regular battery) and a universal charger for like $20. This will leave you with three batteries. One for the charger, one for the pocket, and one for the phone. With this system its pretty easy to always have one full battery ready to go and one charging. The battery is small and can just go in your pocket, or maybe even in your wallet depending on your preferences. It solves the problem completely. I don't think you are going to do much better because if you are a heavy user then your battery is going to be used because your phone isn't going to be sleeping.
Good luck.
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If you read my post above. I'm against the idea lugging around too many things. It's also a hassle to swap the battery and keep them all charged. I may be a heavy user but it's not like I use the phone all the time. I use the phone heavily early in the morning on the way to work and after 5pm on the way home after work. The commute each way is roughly 45 mins. In between the commutes i make a few calls and texts through GV. I don't think i'm that of a really heavy user.
Anyway, it's noon and I'm at 75% with JD on and setCPU to 384-1084mhz which is pretty promising.

Questions go in the Q&A section

Since you changed kernals, you aren't going to benefit from TDJ's battsaver script you can use with the stock 2.7 kernal.
Go lower on the max frequency. Something below 800 mhz. Setting a negative gloval mV doesn't hurt, and if you can get to -62.5, that's great.
Oh, and when using data, try GSM only...
To be honest, the larger problem with battery life is typically the user. There's no real magic on making the phone last longer other than using it less. If you're going to be power using the hell out of it by using 4g for hours streaming media, your battery is going to be ****.

8Fishes said:
Since you changed kernals, you aren't going to benefit from TDJ's battsaver script you can use with the stock 2.7 kernal.
Go lower on the max frequency. Something below 800 mhz. Setting a negative gloval mV doesn't hurt, and if you can get to -62.5, that's great.
Oh, and when using data, try GSM only...
To be honest, the larger problem with battery life is typically the user. There's no real magic on making the phone last longer other than using it less. If you're going to be power using the hell out of it by using 4g for hours streaming media, your battery is going to be ****.
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Don't you think it is ironic for me to switch from the iphone to the S2 because I couldn't stand the slow 2g Edge connection then have to lower data speed to GSM (2g) just so I can use the S2 long enough?
I think the S2 is one heck of a device but the OS and Apps are not running very efficiently.
I tried the ICS ROM ARKSIDE.UCLE2:: x[BETA07.1] in the last 2 days with setCPU at 384-1026Mhz. I have had great battery life. I got home at 12 am yesterday with a 2% battery. Today it's been 7 hrs on battery and my battery is at 70%. I don't know if it is the ROM, setCPU or a combination of the two but I'm pretty happy with the phone right now. ICS is awesome too.
I highly recommend that solution to anyone having a short battery life problem with their S2.

It is a little ironic since you did bring up the comparison. What I was attempting to do was to bring the phone more into spec of an iphone to get similar battery life. You're probably going to even get better runtimes due to the battery having a much larger capacity and better screen technology. All that superior hardware packed in the t989 is going to need more juice to run.
It's great you're getting good runtimes now. From my personal experience, once I drop down to the single digit percentages, it starts lasting a lot longer per percent. If you wanted to squeeze all you can from the device, those 2000mah aftermarket cells might add another 15~30 minutes.

Severe battery drain - Juice Defender problem?

My wife and I have this phone. A few weeks ago I installed Juice Defender (free) on mine and so far it's working remarkably well. Last night I installed it on my wife's phone and the battery level dropped precipitously. She wasn't using the phone much (if at all) and eventually plugged it in to charge it up. After fully charging, the phone wasn't used - overnight it just sat on the kitchen counter and the battery went from 100% to 17%. Never had this problem with my phone and can't figure out what the deal is. Does Juice Defender have a weird reaction under certain settings or installed apps that I don't know about?

Colonel Travis said:
My wife and I have this phone. A few weeks ago I installed Juice Defender (free) on mine and so far it's working remarkably well. Last night I installed it on my wife's phone and the battery level dropped precipitously. She wasn't using the phone much (if at all) and eventually plugged it in to charge it up. After fully charging, the phone wasn't used - overnight it just sat on the kitchen counter and the battery went from 100% to 17%. Never had this problem with my phone and can't figure out what the deal is. Does Juice Defender have a weird reaction under certain settings or installed apps that I don't know about?
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I have exactly the same issue? you get anywhere with this?

Thats strange... I was planning on installing JD myself after a couple of days without it to get a good baseline. Anyone know what the deal is?

smithdl1191 said:
Thats strange... I was planning on installing JD myself after a couple of days without it to get a good baseline. Anyone know what the deal is?
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I installed it one of the first days I got my LGOG, before it was rooted or unlocked and it killed my battery. I went through everything within the app and couldn't figure it out at all. Next step would be to contact the dev to see if he has any ideas.

Why not just use the builtin methods to save your battery?
Assimilated using the interface that interacts with the advanced internet.

I think I'm getting decent battery life with juice defender on
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Man listen you do not need addon software to save your battery. It's useless! You do not need any software or app to save battery life! It's like me using pc with norton protection LOL. Turn your sync off.

I've been using jd since the day I got my phone... No battery drain problems. I have my settings on a semi frequent sync schedule (30mins) and can get about 1.5-2 days if I let the battery get close to 0. Check your settings... Both in jd and not.
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I never partook in using these seemingly useless apps. From what I have seen over the years, these apps cannot really differentiate what processes need to run for system stability versus what is just eating up RAM and metaphorically killing the battery. I have never had success using battery saving or task managing apps, as they eventually always proved counterintuitive.
Want better battery life? Turn on Eco mode; lower your screen display; keep Wifi, NFC, and bluetooth off when not in use; and turn your vibration completely off.

JD does bring a few features you can't find in the native settings - I use it mostly to lower the screen brightness below the lowest built in setting for usage at night, as well as to quickly turn on data when I turn the screen on, and intelligently choose which type of data to connect to.
I think the main value is that I can get the best performance out of my phone (all cores, bluetooth constantly on so it connects instantly in the car, nfc on demand) when I am using it, and battery savings when I'm not. It's a very powerful tool, as long as you know how to configure it! It takes some tweaking but it's worth it.
That said, I'd contact the developers to see if you can send them some kind of log file to see what could be going on with the battery drain... They might be able to help, though JD seems to be out of active development.
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RAM utilization?

My Redmi Note 9 Pro memory usage never exceeds 3.4 of 6 gigs. on stable MIUI 12.0.1
Anyone whose witnessed more than 4 OR 6 is of none use and a overkill OR poor stock ROM utilization?
Hoping to hear from you the experts.
Thanks.

this is mostly thanks to Xiaomi overly aggressive memory management, to save battery

koshikas said:
this is mostly thanks to Xiaomi overly aggressive memory management, to save battery
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Thanks for the info.
Can changes in some or all apps to Battery unlimited and OR Auto start help in performance and utilization of more memory at the expense of battery timing?
Should the battery be charged at 20% i.e low battery or it doesn't matter.
Regards!

Mike2030 said:
Can changes in some or all apps to Battery unlimited and OR Auto start help in performance and utilization of more memory at the expense of battery timing?
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yes, setting battery unrestricted helps, but is no fool-proof way of keeping things in memory.
i also resort to locking the app to the app switcher, and have "autostart" enabled for apps that are critical to be in memory running. cant say all that works still, but relatively works most of the time. your mileage may vary.
Should the battery be charged at 20% i.e low battery or it doesn't matter.
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personally i try never to let the battery go below 35%. helps me to squeeze some more hours if i cannot charge immediately, but the main reason being, Li-ion batteries dont fare well when you deep discharge them. but they dont fare well being fully charged for extended periods either (hence all this talk of not to let phones charge overnight, unless it is managed by the phone). ideal charge range falls sort of between 35%-85%. what i usually do with RN9P, is i fully charge in the morning before work. full charge from 30%-100% takes only and hour or so and by the time its noon the battery is down to the ideal range.

koshikas said:
yes, setting battery unrestricted helps, but is no fool-proof way of keeping things in memory.
i also resort to locking the app to the app switcher, and have "autostart" enabled for apps that are critical to be in memory running. cant say all that works still, but relatively works most of the time. your mileage may vary.
personally i try never to let the battery go below 35%. helps me to squeeze some more hours if i cannot charge immediately, but the main reason being, Li-ion batteries dont fare well when you deep discharge them. but they dont fare well being fully charged for extended periods either (hence all this talk of not to let phones charge overnight, unless it is managed by the phone). ideal charge range falls sort of between 35%-85%. what i usually do with RN9P, is i fully charge in the morning before work. full charge from 30%-100% takes only and hour or so and by the time its noon the battery is down to the ideal range.
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Thanks for responding.
1. What do you imply by adding an app or multiple to app switcher and having them autostart with unlimited battery?
2. Best in your expert opinion is between 35-85%.. correct.
3. But than you say you charge to 100% before starting the day...a bit confused.
Regards!

Mike2030 said:
Thanks for responding.
1. What do you imply by adding an app or multiple to app switcher and having them autostart with unlimited battery?
2. Best in your expert opinion is between 35-85%.. correct.
3. But than you say you charge to 100% before starting the day...a bit confused.
Regards!
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1) i think you already know about "autostart" and unrestricted battery setting. "locking app" in app switcher means, you go into app switcher -> long press the app you want to keep -> click on the lock icon. this implies you want to keep the app in memory
2) yes
3) while not ideal, what is critical is that the battery does not stay at 100% for extended period (like in overnight charging). when i full charge in the morning, with calls and constant use in the morning hours charge comes down to 85%-90% soon, that way i have full battery to start the day and it not hard on battery because it only stays at >90% for a few hours.

Mike2030 said:
Should the battery be charged at 20% i.e low battery or it doesn't matter.
Regards!
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You will find many varied opinions about battery charging and the advice previously given here is the most prominent.
However, I am too lazy for that so I always charge to 100% (never overnight) and discharge as low as possible ..... with all the phones I ever had, for many years, and my batteries have all lasted for years and years before showing any sign of deterioration.

koshikas said:
1) i think you already know about "autostart" and unrestricted battery setting. "locking app" in app switcher means, you go into app switcher -> long press the app you want to keep -> click on the lock icon. this implies you want to keep the app in memory
2) yes
3) while not ideal, what is critical is that the battery does not stay at 100% for extended period (like in overnight charging). when i full charge in the morning, with calls and constant use in the morning hours charge comes down to 85%-90% soon, that way i have full battery to start the day and it not hard on battery because it only stays at >90% for a few hours.
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Thanks for replying.
I was having issues with Nova Prime launcher set as default with notifications not showing once daily. It automatically turned OFF and had to turn ON manually to set for notifications and as launcher in usage access.
Same for Accubatt Pro never would charge to 100% on the app.
This is the reply I received.....
That's because device OEM's such as Xiaomi/Realme/Huawei purposely breaks the rules of Android and kills off the accessibility service when they aren't supposed to be doing so. That's all on them and something you'd either need to contact them about or buy a device from an OEM that isn't going to break such rules.
So at the moment have turned OFF System launcher and Security in usage access, to see if it helps.......
Any other guesses, fixes.
Thanks!

Mike2030 said:
Thanks for replying.
I was having issues with Nova Prime launcher set as default with notifications not showing once daily. It automatically turned OFF and had to turn ON manually to set for notifications and as launcher in usage access.
Same for Accubatt Pro never would charge to 100% on the app.
This is the reply I received.....
That's because device OEM's such as Xiaomi/Realme/Huawei purposely breaks the rules of Android and kills off the accessibility service when they aren't supposed to be doing so. That's all on them and something you'd either need to contact them about or buy a device from an OEM that isn't going to break such rules.
So at the moment have turned OFF System launcher and Security in usage access, to see if it helps.......
Any other guesses, fixes.
Thanks!
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i agree for the most part. xiaomi's aggressive background app killing is well documented, it is one of the worst offenders but not alone, checkout; https://dontkillmyapp.com/xiaomi?3
i've largely made peace, with whatsapp somehow working without delays. other are all over the place.
note: disabling usage access for security app in MIUI, breaks more things than fixing. without usage access to security app you wont be able to kill/clear-data of apps (full functionality of app page).