[Q] Data++ vs a2sd - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What to choose ?
And what are the differences ?

i want to use this ROM

in A2SD+, both .apk and Dalvik-cache of the app you downloaded goes to sd-ext, only app data is on NAND
in data++, you flash a custom hboot, which makes /data partition bigger and that allows to move only .apk to SD-ext, dalvik-cache stays on NAND with app data
data++ is faster because apps run from dalvik-cache.

In data++ i need to do some partitions ? (now i have EXT3)

You need S-OFF and custom partition table for data++ rom's.
EXT3/4 on SD is also usually needed.
http://alpharev.nl

Tried to s-off, get some error and can't no s-off =(
The error on 3 step

if you use a rom with data2ext or data2sd or ap2sd+ right now you cant s-off
either flash Oxygen ROM or stock rooted rom
and then do s-off

dzumagos said:
if you use a rom with data2ext or data2sd or ap2sd+ right now you cant s-off
either flash Oxygen ROM or stock rooted rom
and then do s-off
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I S-OFF'd using Alpha-rev while having an A2SD+ rom installed.

lucky you then

dzumagos said:
lucky you then
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No, I'm lying, I forgot I had to revert to Teppic74's stock ROM, then S-OFF'd, then installed the A2SD+ ROM I thought I'd used to S-off! My bad!

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data2ext and not enough space to install apps

I've just updated my RCMixHD 3.5++, wiping up everything, to 3.6 without the data++ with data2ext and I was wondering why it seems like I can't install anything when I get to having 342MB of free space, I've been trying like mad wiping up and reflashing.
has anybody an idea on what I can do?
UPDATE: it seems I can push the installations through adb with success...
anybody an idea? could it be the latest Market version breaking something?
it's quite IMPOSSIBLE to get all the APKs I could want from market or anything outside it without having the Market app working...
Is your phone saying it has free space but still cannot install the apps?
i have this same. info screen says i have a lot of space and when i try to install something i become warning screen that say, i don't have enought space
Cm7 partition image??
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KevAmiga said:
Is your phone saying it has free space but still cannot install the apps?
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I reflashed and having 330MB free it says it cannot download, fixing permissions via recovery doesn't do much...
When you installed RCMixHD 3.5 D++ did you install the cm7 hboot which is recommended for this rom? If you did, before you install D2EXT rom, you need to revert your hboot back to Bravo stock for it to work correctly!
bobsie41 said:
When you installed RCMixHD 3.5 D++ did you install the cm7 hboot which is recommended for this rom? If you did, before you install D2EXT rom, you need to revert your hboot back to Bravo stock for it to work correctly!
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When I installed RCMixHD++ I didn't install che cm7 hboot (namely it was said that having s-offed with AlphaRev could be enough), so I think that now that I have the 3.6 without the ++ I could just wipe everything and flash it. Maybe it's just a problem of the missing Vending.apk and patching.
s-off itself doesnt give you anything in terms of space
but it allows you to change your hboot (partiton layout) so you can have more space for apps. so if you didnt do cm7 partitions and installed data++ rom... well the point of data++ roms is to have cm7 partitions layout...
dzumagos said:
s-off itself doesnt give you anything in terms of space
but it allows you to change your hboot (partiton layout) so you can have more space for apps. so if you didnt do cm7 partitions and installed data++ rom... well the point of data++ roms is to have cm7 partitions layout...
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now I don't have the ++ version anymore, so you're missing the point: I now have the 3.6 with data2ext, no ++, no different layout needed, still I can't download apps but I can push them with "adb install"

[Q] Only CM7 on my Desire, no other.. Why?

Hello everybody, i have a question for you all.. My problem: I have a s-off Desire with Alpharev CM7, CWM Recovery 4.0.0.5 and latest radio on it. I have tried to install many, MANY roms, but all, except 2, have the same problem.. After installation from the recovery, i only see the joker face from Alpharev, and nothing more. AceSMod007, RcMixHD, VillainRom and many more.. The only 2 exceptions are MIUI, that comes to its own bootscreen, but looping and no boot, and CyanogenMod, that works great. Why that? I have tried to install Hboot Sense, Hboot stock, but nothing.. Anyone should help me please? Many thanks, regards
have you partioned you sd, if not make an ext partition of 1GB with Gparted
If you are using cm7 hboot try upgrading to cm7r2 hboot from alpharev.nl as the roms mentioned require it.
TopGear63z said:
have you partioned you sd, if not make an ext partition of 1GB with Gparted
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Yes both with ext3 (by cmw) and ext4.. hboot r2 but others too
Are you doing a full wipe before flashing the rom? This is needed when switching roms.
Only use cm7 hboot if your using cm7 or a rom that was designed to use that hboot. Otherwise stick with stock unless specifically required by the new rom untill you got it working.
If not maybe your recovery is messed up, try a different version.
Back up your sd and use 4EXT recovery to start from strach. Create aligned partitions with this recovery. Mostly, the boot loops happen when hboot is too small for the rom or ext partition(s) is broken or not aligned. Also you can fix your partition with e2fsck.
Try InsertCoin CM7, and do everything what is said above, should be fine then
mercianary said:
Are you doing a full wipe before flashing the rom? This is needed when switching roms.
Only use cm7 hboot if your using cm7 or a rom that was designed to use that hboot. Otherwise stick with stock unless specifically required by the new rom untill you got it working.
If not maybe your recovery is messed up, try a different version.
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maybe that is.. I have installed alpharev stock hboot and reflashed original RUU, tomorrow i will try to root my phone again..
PS. with others Alpharev hboot, RUU won't upload, so, if you need to flash a RUU, is important that you install STOCK ALPHABOOT

[Q] about cm7r2

Hello I haven't undrestand something about s-off .
My desire is s-off with Hboot 0.93.0001 do i have to do something to go to cm7r2 or I am ok as it is (since it is s-off)?
Well you are okay as it is but if you wanna get more space for your apps then you may wanna go with cm7r2 so that your partiton allocation of your phone's internal memory is changed and used more efficiently.
Details on how to get cm7r2 is on alpharev.nl
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Also, bear in mind that with CM7r2 hboot, you will have to download a Rom compatible with CM7r2. The stock Rom or any roms that requires more than 145mb on the system partition will not be compatible and will cause the phone to bootloop.
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itachi1706 said:
Also, bear in mind that with CM7r2 hboot, you will have to download a Rom compatible with CM7r2. The stock Rom or any roms that requires more than 145mb on the system partition will not be compatible and will cause the phone to bootloop.
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Little correction: If one flashes a rom which doesn't not fit in /system, one will stuck at splash screen and not in a bootloop.
maximum cm7r2 partition
Hi - i want to Flash the Runnymede 4.0.3. does it only support a max. 2gb partition? cause when i make a 4gb partition it doesnt work with ap2sdx
Please read the requirements in the rom's thread. Also search the thread. Then all your questions should be answered.
itachi1706 said:
Also, bear in mind that with CM7r2 hboot, you will have to download a Rom compatible with CM7r2. The stock Rom or any roms that requires more than 145mb on the system partition will not be compatible and will cause the phone to bootloop.
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This happened to me when I was trying to install Runnymede (and I wanted the A2SD+, for which I believe you need CM7r2). I was running stock ROM and couldn't get back into it to run 4ext.
Does that mean I was doing it in the wrong order? Do I need to run 4ext first to prepare everything, then flash the hboot, then flash the ROM from recovery?
Briggykins said:
This happened to me when I was trying to install Runnymede (and I wanted the A2SD+, for which I believe you need CM7r2). I was running stock ROM and couldn't get back into it to run 4ext.
Does that mean I was doing it in the wrong order? Do I need to run 4ext first to prepare everything, then flash the hboot, then flash the ROM from recovery?
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Yes. CM7r2 is too small for the stock rom to be used. And you can reboot into 4ext by pressing the volume down and power button at the same time, navigate to recovery with the volume button and confirm selection with power button. There just wipe everything and flash your rom.
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...nevermind...

Custom roms don't work...

I recently rooted my desire with unrevoked. I have cwm 5.0.2.0 recovery, but I can't seem to make custom roms work. I first tried to flash the 3.5 htc sense Cool Sense rom, but it got stuck after the boot image. Then I tried Leeroid and Cyanogenmod, but they both entered bootloops. Before I started the flashing, I updated my radio from 5.11.05.27 to 5.17.05.23, but I didn't update the ril. Could it have anything to do with that?
Or could it be the hboot? I don't know much about it, but its version 93.0001, and because I s-offed my phone with revolutionary, it says "AlfaRev Revolutionary" on top. Do I have to flash a custom hboot?
Or do all these roms need sd card partitioning? I did a 2gb partition with cwm recovery, but I don't think it worked.
By the way:
Htc desire GSM
Hboot 93.0001
Cwm 5.0.2.0 recovery
Stock 2.2 android rom
Baseband 5.17.05.23
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Hi,
I have similar problem. I rooted it with Unrevoked and s-offed it using the alpharev utility. Only roms I was able to flash were the Oxygen 2.3.2 and CyandroigenMod 7. When I tried other roms it just stuck on the alpharev splash screen, I left it like that for couple hours like that but nothing was happening...and I had the proper hboot image flashed that was required for the roms.
Do you have any advice what should I do?
Thanks.
I am not an expert, but somewhere I read that the recovery cwm 5.xx has some problem. Try the 4Ext recovery that is based on cwm and for me works efficiently.
Another question, you speak about Oxigen and Cyano, both use modified table partition. Have you changed the partition table and downloaded the right rom version for that table?
Just so you know, Oxygen and Cyanogenmod roms will work even on stock hboot and doesn't require EXT partition for it to install and run on your phone.. You'll have issues with the memory for your apps though and that's what the custom partition table and EXT partition and a2sd, data2sd etc. scripts are for.
On the other hand, some ROMs (Sense based roms most of the time) REQUIRE that you have an EXT partition on your SD for it to install and work properly. Check the rom thread and read the requirements!
As for creating ext partitions on your sdcard, I recommend using 4EXT Recovery or alternatively Gparted on your desktop computer.
This would only be true if Clockworkmod was updated to V.5.x. If I'm not mistaken, alpharev's s-off method puts in his own modified version of clockworkmod. I'm not sure if his version is based on V.5.x ...
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As stankyou said you are facing all these problems because your sdcard has no EXT4 partition.
Partition your sdcard to xyz FAT32 + 1gb EXT4
did you do a full wipe/factory reset from the recovery before flashing the custom roms ??
Thanks guys for your help. The problem was that I didn't have the sd-ext partition, so I created it and now it works

[Q] Firmware upgrade - how?

I tried installing MIUI JB rom, but during installation of zip package, I get 'symlinks error 7'.
I did some search and it turnes out that it's probably caused by an outdated firmware on my Desire. The thing is I could not find anything about how to update a Desire firmware on this forum. There are roms, hboots, recoveries, basebands... everything, but firmwares.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
impactor said:
I tried installing MIUI JB rom, but during installation of zip package, I get 'symlinks error 7'.
I did some search and it turnes out that it's probably caused by an outdated firmware on my Desire. The thing is I could not find anything about how to update a Desire firmware on this forum. There are roms, hboots, recoveries, basebands... everything, but firmwares.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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don't know where you found that information, but what does your bootloader say about your firmware anyway?
turn off your phone, hold vol down + power, type all that it says.
when you install a custom rom, you are putting a brand new firmware on it anyway, you shouldnt need to upgrade anything beforehand as you are already rooted with custom recovery.
the symlinks error is probably (though i'm not certain) due sd card partitioning. is it even partitioned, and if it is, was it done with gparted or 4ext recovery (NOT minitool or clockworkmod recovery)?
Alpharev CM7r2
BRAVO PCT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.33.1002
MICROP-051d
Radio-5.17.05.23
SD card is partitioned with gparted:
14gb fat32
500mb ext4
200mb linux-swap (appears as ext4 in 4ext)
impactor said:
Alpharev CM7r2
BRAVO PCT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.33.1002
MICROP-051d
Radio-5.17.05.23
SD card is partitioned with gparted:
14gb fat32
500mb ext4
200mb linux-swap (appears as ext4 in 4ext)
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backup your sd card, repartition from scratch using gparted (good choice!)
would recommend 1gb ext4 if you can afford the space
no swap (not necessary, and could be causing your problem)
Consider that your hboot is CM7r2. As far as I know you need stock hboot for all if most Android 4 roms.
stankyou said:
Consider that your hboot is CM7r2. As far as I know you need stock hboot for all if most Android 4 roms.
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Yh i think ur right, stock hboot for all that i seen aswell, except that new sense 4. Anyway im pretty sure symlink error 7 is hboot error
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Yup, looks like I need data++ hboot. Thanks.
..
Well, I installed data++ hboot which is supposed to work with ICS/JB roms, but I'm still getting the same error upon attempting installing the rom.
impactor said:
Well, I installed data++ hboot which is supposed to work with ICS/JB roms, but I'm still getting the same error upon attempting installing the rom.
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Flash stock hboot
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jmcclue said:
Flash stock hboot
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Yup, that worked. Thanks.
I also tried JB hboot from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1946517
It works fine, too, and I am sticking with it for the moment.

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