[Q] Developers Stopped Developing a Sense Rom? - Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I love my epic but I miss sense....I've read that devs were deving a sense rom, but did that stop due to the gingerbread updates?
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i hope not....im also looking forward to seeing a sense rom on this phone...Devs have tried but never produced a stable build....rumor has it,well it was awhile ago,that ACS was secretly working on a sense 2.1 build but like i said its a rumor...just have to wait and see

Weren't there two little kids in 3rd grade working on this at one point, or was that finally proven to be a hoax? That had me very confused for a while.

bagelicious said:
Weren't there two little kids in 3rd grade working on this at one point, or was that finally proven to be a hoax? That had me very confused for a while.
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That was nook color.
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Did the TB kill the devepoment for our Dinc?

Probably not, but it sure seems like the forums got real quiet the last few days. Just sayin....
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donnyp1 said:
Probably not, but it sure seems like the forums got real quiet the last few days. Just sayin....
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got to agree. does seem a bit quiet. i am keeping both (well, the inc goes to the daughter but i will keep tweaking it for her) so i want the devs to keep working on the inc.
It's probably temporary, the Inc community will last for a while.
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Recently (as in a few days ago) coming from an Eris, which was 'end-of-life' in the middle of last year, and then received Gingerbread almost instantaneously after it was released to the public thanks to our fine devs here at XDA, I highly doubt the DInc will die out any time soon. This phone has way too much potential.
I expert it do die down in time, but the CM machine will keep chugging. Honestly, so long as Cyanogen has a DInc ROM, I'll be content. I use launcher pro, and prefer stock android over anything else, so not having new versions of sense isn't a big deal to me. Sometimes I like to jump on the MIUI train, but I always end up back with Cyanogen. They always support their phones so well, I imagine development for cm will continue long past the DInc's shelf-life.
I think even if it does dwindle, it will only be minor. As long as we have CM and a good maintaner we should always have something new and better to throw on our phones. The only thing is I've always wanted to see AOSP roms with tv-out but I see very little future in anyone dev that now that interest in it has died down.
I have been tryin z roms lately with very good success, and their cameras are the bomb. Aosp is nice an smooth, but i like the option to switch atound alot, plus cm camera just isnt that good. Im runnin miui gb now, with zero issues, kinda shox me for a first release just how good this rom is. I would love to see gb sense though just to have it.
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Only for a while guys go check out the specs on the Incredible S on engagdet
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nerogold said:
Only for a while guys go check out the specs on the Incredible S on engagdet
Not gonna lie, that phone looked sharp.
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The devs have shifted focus to the Thunderbolt to give it a jump start in the root and rom arena. After this happens I'm sure we'll seen new stuff for the DInc again. Shoot! Someone will probably port the TB ROM to DInc.
Smabbage said:
The devs have shifted focus to the Thunderbolt to give it a jump start in the root and rom arena. After this happens I'm sure we'll seen new stuff for the DInc again. Shoot! Someone will probably port the TB ROM to DInc.
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That rom has been leaked, figure it would have been ported by now.
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I can't speak for all developers but I myself will be returning to work on the Inc as soon as the major crap is done with the Thunderbolt such as CWM and CM 7. I'll still be here but not full time just yet.
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Smabbage said:
The devs have shifted focus to the Thunderbolt to give it a jump start in the root and rom arena. After this happens I'm sure we'll seen new stuff for the DInc again. Shoot! Someone will probably port the TB ROM to DInc.
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I just don't see the rom being much better granted the new Sense might be cool to look at.
DINC // CM7 RC2 // SLAYHER#9
I may be completely wrong in saying this but i think the tb is actually going to increase the amount of dev on the dinc. When you look at the evo and dinc there are roms that run on both. From what ive heard of the tb its basically a evo just a lil bit better. So as soon as a good way is made for easy transfer of rom from tb to dinc or to evo we will have more options on the dinc. Plus as soon as the problems are sorted out of how to get tb roms and code to run on the dinc we will be getting more updates to stock releases.
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I can't speak for all developers but I myself will be returning to work on the Inc as soon as the major crap is done with the Thunderbolt such as CWM and CM 7. I'll still be here but not full time just yet.
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Good to know you have our back.
I had an Iphone 4, didn't like iOS so I decided to go check out the thunderbolt, I was less than impressed. No 4g around me, and I didn't want to pay $100 on top of giving my iphone 4 back. So I picked up an incredible, and couldn't be happier. Its such a solid phone. Perfect size.
I personally cannot wait until people start (hopefully) coming back to the Inc, it's been dead here lately, more than usual anyway.
Don't want to see the Inc die.
I Am Marino said:
I personally cannot wait until people start (hopefully) coming back to the Inc, it's been dead here lately, more than usual anyway.
Don't want to see the Inc die.
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Yes it has, no new roms, no ipdates, only cm nightlies, and all forums slow. Its too bad, this phone still has alot to offer. But hell, when i gey new toysi play with them more also, so i cant blame thosr wjo got thetb
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donnyp1 said:
Yes it has, no new roms, no ipdates, only cm nightlies, and all forums slow. Its too bad, this phone still has alot to offer. But hell, when i gey new toysi play with them more also, so i cant blame thosr wjo got thetb
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Makes sense, I watch the EVO forums still rock, Nexus One forums will always be rocking, and with the Inc being such a close relative, just surprised activity has fallen off a little.
Yeah, im just hopin tgings start pickin up soon. There are alot of roms that could be ported, but nothing as of lately.
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Where are all the devs?

Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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/facepalm
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Maybe renaming it to the epic is hurting us, lmao
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locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Well, devs are staying behind because we are all starting to see how the game is going. Too many Android phones are coming out at once and money ain't coming any faster. I'm sure if people paid devs to come dev for the device, we'd have more devs...so if you want to pay for someone's E4GT, go right on ahead. If you don't want to, just wait it out. This phone is already pretty sweet and the problems we do have, a dev probably won't be able to fix those..so..yeah.
This phone is sick dude, just enjoy it and be happy that you don't own a device where you have to depend on the devs just to be able to get through the day.
Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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The Epic scene was pretty good. A lot of people came from that Evo...smh, the Evo messed the whole game up if ya ask me. Now people willl sit around and say their phone is garbage if it doesn't have the same dev scene that the Evo had.
Little do most people know that the Evo was damn near the same device as the Desire, N1 and Dinc. So most of the reason why its scene was so great was because a dev from any one of those phones could just port their roms over and all they had to do was swap out the hardware files and the kernel. Other than those 2 things, everything was damn near exactly the same.
Yeah I think we just have to be patience
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I've seen a few well known devs from the HTC Evo post here, so I'm pretty optimistic.
Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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what do we really need here? cyanogen and miui and stock roms. that is asking alot but that would be epic. for now i am loving starburst. love asop but don't remove touchwiz launcher and widgets. just my opinion.
I had the First Epic and the Dev's there were GREAT. We may not have had as many as some phones like the Evo but the ones we had did great work and who needs 100 roms to choose from when the ones we had did the trick. We had some great Roms and Themes and the fixes came pretty fast.
I have not rooted this phone yet mainly because I have not felt the need. The only thing I am missing is WiFi Tether. I am sure when this LOS gets worked out and the devs get their hands on the original source we will see much more. I am grateful for anyone that helps make this phone better, but it is pretty dang good out of the box. The best I have ever had.
Where did u hear that from
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OG epic scene was great.... kinda started slowing down with the whole froyo debacle, because it was pretty well known sammy was already working on ginger.... so evsryone was waiting for the final, correct source.... still are i think... i gotta check... gf has my epic and id love to see a finished gb...
cordell12 said:
Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Now?? pffft what are you talking about? They want that **** out on launch day! wtf you slacking devs that dont get paid and do this all for free?? Get back in the sweatshop and do work that requires more thinking than a sweatshop worker in china but gets "paid"(donations) less! These devs should worship us and do what we tell them when we tell them! When a phone is released that very day we expect EVERY MOD imaginable, every "bell and whistle" and a choice of at least 10 roms and 10 kernels..
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Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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I cant wait until viper comes over! That will be the first custom rom I run on this phone.
ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Haha right?!
i have been spoiled
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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sense is pretty hard to get working on a non HTC phone. I dont think I've ever heard of a sense rom (that fully worked right) ported over to a non htc phone(at least that I know of). It's not impossible(from what I hear) but it is very very very difficult(so I hear)
locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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God I hope not, ****ing devs lol
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Development?

So what is going on? Any speculation? Development has been stale lately for the Inc2. We do have a great selection of very functional roms, and I appreciate that but not much new in a while. Have developers left or abandoned this device? And yes I know some developers have chosen not to post on xda anymore, but I am still not seeing much. I am not trying to sound ungrateful, this is just a general query.
Miui is still very much alive and kicking. That's good enough for me!
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Yea Miui is nice. I was just hoping we would see some new Sense based Roms, or possibly some more themes for Sense based roms. I miss the days of the Droid 1 I guess, where there were so many different choices.
There is a new rom in development. The developer had a thread to get beta testers.
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Yup, it was JoelZ. I'm one of the testers.
Yea I saw that. Thats good news. Does anyone know if it is Sense or AOSP?
No idea yet.....
stelv said:
Yea I saw that. Thats good news. Does anyone know if it is Sense or AOSP?
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im actually going to be one of the testers Im excited, as a right now we dont know much yet but I could keep you guys inform Im sure JoelZ9614 is cooking something good for us
I've noticed more Roms popping up on rootzwiki and of course, my favorite, themikmik.
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TSM Gingerbang and Skyraider are my two favorites...I was just getting the itch to flash something new. I think I have flashed every rom there is for Inc2. I have a list started for people over at Droidforums: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-incredible-2-roms/176783-roms-list-2-3-roms-htc-droid-incredible-2-wip.html
I don't get good battery on Inc2 HD for some reason, but there are some nice features in their roms. I ran Inc Sensation for a long time. I don't really like some of the things Root said over here at xda. If he wanted people going to his site he could have handled it without the vulgarity, but thats neither hear nor there.
Have you tried liquid? I like newts roms, while I am waiting on a more final build of his I tried liquid and I love it...
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Liquid is nice, but I still like miui.
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Could someone send me a link for liquid or any other sweet roms? Not miui because I used that on my Samsung fascinate and it basically bricked it. Thanks.
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phones are all different. I switched between sense, AOSP, MIUI and never bricked my device. Samsung device can't compare to HTC. That is just a bad assumption.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293882
stelv said:
So what is going on? Any speculation? Development has been stale lately for the Inc2. We do have a great selection of very functional roms, and I appreciate that but not much new in a while. Have developers left or abandoned this device? And yes I know some developers have chosen not to post on xda anymore, but I am still not seeing much. I am not trying to sound ungrateful, this is just a general query.
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honestly relative to the size of the small root community there are tons of options for the end user
aosp alone has miui, cm7, tsm poolparty, liquid, omgb, omfgb...with all still in active development
sense has dozens of roms, from sense 2.1, 3.0, and 3.5 to choose from
i mean what else do you want? 500 new roms a day?
and really to put out new roms it takes awhile...ive personally been screwing around with 2 or 3 side projects in addition to the roms i have out for this phone and the samsung fascinate
people do this for free, and given how many choices are out there, there is plenty to keep you occupied flashing for a long time
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honestly relative to the size of the small root community there are tons of options for the end user
aosp alone has miui, cm7, tsm poolparty, liquid, omgb, omfgb...with all still in active development
sense has dozens of roms, from sense 2.1, 3.0, and 3.5 to choose from
i mean what else do you want? 500 new roms a day?
and really to put out new roms it takes awhile...ive personally been screwing around with 2 or 3 side projects in addition to the roms i have out for this phone and the samsung fascinate
people do this for free, and given how many choices are out there, there is plenty to keep you occupied flashing for a long time
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Yes you are right. There are a good amount of options. I am also grateful of how well most of the Roms work for the Inc2. I was just kind curious to see if we were kind of low on the list for future development, but I wasn't taking everything into consideration. I guess I just have too much free time on my hand and I need to be more patient.
I also enjoy your and TSMs work, you guys produce some great roms!
jeremytn86 said:
Have you tried liquid? I like newts roms, while I am waiting on a more final build of his I tried liquid and I love it...
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Yes I ran Liquid for a while. It ran pretty well. I have it as one of my backups.
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i mean what else do you want? 500 new roms a day?
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We leave that to Newt and his half done army of roms
06stang said:
We leave that to Newt and his half done army of roms
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lol
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06stang said:
We leave that to Newt and his half done army of roms
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Half done army? Or army of half done?
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[Q] HTC'S Sense in the future?

So now that CM7 is official and nearing from my opinion a completion and MIUI is being worked on and becoming more stable I was just curious on what others had to say about a Sense Rom. I know it's been talked about before and ports have been released on here but they never seemed to kept being worked on. So is their any chance a Sense Rom(even sense 2.0 or 2.1)would be considered as a next project to try and run on this Phone or is it something that simply cannot be achieved?
Just curious don't flame me lol
I would love to see sense but others would rather see everything work on aosp roms first
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sRs DoLLaR mEnU said:
I would love to see sense but others would rather see everything work on aosp roms first
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Yeah me too I mean i thought MIUI was never going to be ported let alone ever stable but with its newest release today it fixed the big issues...along with CM7 i.e. Wimax. I came to sprint in May and this Epic 4g is my first phone with them(bought it cause it had a big enough screen and a keyboard) and prior to that on T-Mobile with the HD2,MYtouch 4g and 3g slide...I've always had HTC but took the risk of switching thinking that this phone would easily have a sense rom..huh I really hope someday it would be successfully ported on this awesome phone
There was some sense development going on awhile ago by Xboxfanj. I think he's still working on it, but his time might have been occupied by getting MIUI stable enough to be a RC.
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well now that miui is RC and stable (enough)..hopefully him and other dev's will look into seeing if sense can be worked at. I know CM9 might be next after CM7 is finished but hopefully besides that this will be under consideration..It would be awesome if it worked
Ok I'm gonna start working on this again. Wish me luck.
-xboxfanj
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Phantomg93 said:
Yeah me too I mean i thought MIUI was never going to be ported let alone ever stable but with its newest release today it fixed the big issues...along with CM7 i.e. Wimax. I came to sprint in May and this Epic 4g is my first phone with them(bought it cause it had a big enough screen and a keyboard) and prior to that on T-Mobile with the HD2,MYtouch 4g and 3g slide...I've always had HTC but took the risk of switching thinking that this phone would easily have a sense rom..huh I really hope someday it would be successfully ported on this awesome phone
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Yah shouldda kept the HD2 LOL... I hear they have a almost everything working ICS Rom (Even camera!)
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Yah shouldda kept the HD2 LOL... I hear they have a almost everything working ICS Rom (Even camera!)
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ugh i know it was XDA'S #1 development phone once but i wanted to stay up to date and got the mytouch 4g...not one of my best decisions i know but eh its whatever lol^-^

[req] [dev] Anyone Care To Help Port?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233863
I am not sure if I am doing this right because I do not generally post links. If this is wrong, please remove it as I did not intend to disobey the rules. Now, this was the last rom I was running on my Hero before I got this beast of a phone. I loved this rom and I thought the apps were themed greatly. I am not a fan of iOS, but to me it does look clean and served as something fresh. I feel with the many different ports of ics, whether it be from sprint leaks or from aosp, that something fresh would be awesome. Swamp is doing a great job chipping at Sense, and I think it would be nice to have something else new and exciting. Personally, I am not a dev and would have no clue about how to go about porting this, but if a dev could work on this or at least teach me the basics of how to do it, that would be amazing.
Dear god, why would you want that garbage on your phone. You want iOS? Just open your app drawer. Tada! IOS!
I care less about the launcher as I obviously could use any replacement launcher. I like the look of the music, messaging, and other basic apps.
rizdog23 said:
I care less about the launcher as I obviously could use any replacement launcher. I like the look of the music, messaging, and other basic apps.
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You're looking for a theme then rather than a ROM.
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Is that Gingerbread? I thought the last update for the Hero was Eclair
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Is that Gingerbread? I thought the last update for the Hero was Eclair
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Thats why xda is such a great community. There even a JB dev thread over in the HeroC forums. I'll probably have my old hero on 4.1 before my E4GT.
I originally rooted androids cauze i got tired of my hero running Cupcake when Froyo was in the works. Crappy carriers make great catalysts.
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They even finally got MIUI running on the HeroC. Hence the reason I love this community so much. The Hero ended up getting Froyo, GB, Honeycomb, ICS, JB, and god only knows what else can be done.

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