I hate to do this but did you guys see this. I really wish we were so close on the Epic. Is our phone really so different(I admit I don't know much about the differences)?
I have been following a Twitter that I think should be showing the commits but haven't seen any changes in a while. Has anyone heard anything recently? Are people still working on it? Ready but wait for the source to GB? Or has it been given up on?
Waiting on source from GB
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I almost posted this the other day, but I figured i'd get flamed cause it probably affects us 0% that they have it
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No dude? When did the Fascinate get source?
EDIT: *Chanting* MAKE A PORT! MAKE A PORT! MAKE A PORT! MAKE A PORT!
We'd have a better change getting official gingerbread tonight than getting a port of thay imo
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I agree with Zanderman. Although ports seem to "sound easier" to accomplish, that isn't always the case. I've heard lots of talk about it being easier and a lot more productive if we got Devs to build it once source is released opposed to porting it. patience is key here, which a lot of us don't seem to have anymore -__- I'm confident our Devs will get it working soon tho, we just need good ol' Samsung to release code, which they like taking their sweet time with -__-
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But isn't the only difference that affects the Rom, the different bands that Sprint and Verizon use? They're both CDMA, so if we built a AOSP GB Kernel, we could probably use their ROM, but if not, it'd be easier to port than the GSM Galaxy S and variants. Keyboard shouldn't affect the ROM much.
But they don't have Source either! How did they get it is my question.
Bump and a thanks if you answer my question
Because their developers decided they needed to build their own, and got it right. We have to wait becase we know we're getting future updates.
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Let me say this right off the bat the devs here are the best. I haven't tried any of the custom ROMs but from what I've read most people are happy with them.
So having said that I am wondering if Samsung / Sprint actually recruited the devs to help them make the best ROM available would it make the Android releases go faster?
My gut instincts tells me no. The devs here do it for the love of what they do and do it for free. I have to admire the talents and inspiration being put into the custom ROMs that we may never see in production releases due to the custom crap they put into it in hopes it all works.
Apple do have an advantage over this but still hinders innovation.
Bottom line is devs keep up the good work despite of us *****in at Sprint / Samsung about 2.2 and beyond.
Darkk
they didn't drop DK28 for no reason. they wanted the input.
Exactly. Why actually hire the devs here, when they can "leak" DK28 and get them to work for free. haha
I can tell you for a fact Sprint looks at XDA work...
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Don't think they would knowingly higher an xda dev just because they would fear more of leaks and infrormation not being safeguarded as they do with there army of zombi devs....
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for sure
they could for sure if they got everyone from SDX!!!!!!!!!
Just had an overthought out reply about software development vs cooking.. but then read the OP and realized it didn't say google..
The devs here could probably match sprints work.. probably not Samsung..probably close but their not known as being the greatest software company in the world anyway..
Their are very different fields of expertise, and comparing these level of skillsets is like comparing apples to oranges..
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they could for sure if they got everyone from SDX!!!!!!!!!
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SDX has been crickets, lately. At least the Epic section has. I liked the place, too.
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SDX has been crickets, lately. At least the Epic section has. I liked the place, too.
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must be to busy with a trying to update a junk phone to 2.2
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must be to busy with a trying to update a junk phone to 2.2
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The Moment was an awesome phone "was",still has great dev support though...
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The best thing about the Moment was sdx. Pos phone that became serviceable thanx to those guys. I think their Epic forum will liven up when they get the source.
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Ok I just got this phone I had the EVO 4G/Then got the EVO 3D..well the Development was awesome with those 2...So I figured on how damn sweet this Epic Touch is..I figured the Development would be smokin..Ya i know phone only been out for a few weeks...I love this damn phone..Im done with HTC CRAP...I just hope that there are some Good Developer that comes over this way an make some good Roms for this Phone...Hey you people can responde i dont care hell if you want to ***** or talk crap go for it lol I dont care..I just like to see other peoples thoughts...
The development will come. I too came from the evo and was spoiled a little. I am really happy with how things are going though. So hang in there. Rumors have it there are top developers working on things right now... Hope they are right.
Also in all seriousness there are at least one of these threads per day that pop up lol.
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theres no development like htc development. hell the HD2 is still poppin in the dev section. lol. shoulda did ur research on cdma sammy phones. nice drop off in rom/mods, but there is some. maybe by dec will see is nice bump in roms.
Atleast you posted in the right section...
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Ya i know how sammy phones are with updates etc..i just couldn't pass up the big ass screen an the specs of this thing ..so far im loving this phone..im running it stock an she dam quick alot quicker then the Evo 3D rooted...ya i will be patient on the development...
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Out of all the phones this one needs the least amount of development. But the Devs we got are great.
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R1ptide said:
Out of all the phones this one needs the least amount of development. But the Devs we got are great.
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Wouldn't go that far. Its. Nice. but needs some work!
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Wouldn't go that far. Its. Nice. but needs some work!
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Needs the least compared to all the others. My phone doesn't have the signal/los issues others do.
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I think I'd have to somewhat Agree with R1ptide. The phone was so great I ran it stock for almost 2 weeks. And im a Modder and Flashaholic.
But really give the phone 3-5months minimum before complaining about dev's =)
We have some awesome developers already, and they're doing great work. Heck we have guys that don't even own the phone building kernels, and removing CIQ for us. I am pretty confident that you will have a fine selection of kernels, ROMs, and themes to pick from over time.
Lets spend more time encouraging and praising the guys and gals we do have working hard for us, and giving up their own time... instead of complaining about "this isn't nearly as good as EVO development".
I came from GSM att atrix slow development but I'm sure it will pick up. Atrix is kinda dead because people are rude just wait and it will pick up
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What do you need developed? Cm and miui will take a while due to
Cdma and Wimax. We have some awesome devs. I know Bubby from the og epic and he does amazing stuff, and absolutzero has been working on his ROM getting that all good, viper just got
an et too. I think we are just fine. Just request what features you want.
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What's wrong with trying to learn to do some things on your own? All these Devs had to start somewhere. So why wait around and complain? Sure, coding may be a big leap, but things like changing most graphics isn't that difficult. Take the time, do a little research and before long you won't be reliant upon others. Plus you'll have the satisfaction of your phone being Your phone.
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What's wrong with trying to learn to do some things on your own? All these Devs had to start somewhere. So why wait around and complain? Sure, coding may be a big leap, but things like changing most graphics isn't that difficult. Take the time, do a little research and before long you won't be reliant upon others. Plus you'll have the satisfaction of your phone being Your phone.
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any idea where the 'interested' can find some groundwork tutorials to learn rom building?
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What do you need developed? Cm and miui will take a while due to
Cdma and Wimax. We have some awesome devs. I know Bubby from the og epic and he does amazing stuff, and absolutzero has been working on his ROM getting that all good, viper just got
an et too. I think we are just fine. Just request what features you want.
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All I really want is a AOSP rom, doesn't necessarily need to be CM7 but I figured if anyone can do it it will be their team first, but now that ICS SDK is out and source code probably soon I have my doubts that it will come at all to this phone.
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Hello everyone.
Im a HTC Faithful and currently using an Evo 4g still. This phone is starting to show its age and im thinking of picking up a Epic Touch.
But looking at the dev section, it doesnt seem that there are that many roms in progress, let alone any updated ICS roms. There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on.
Im just wondering where all the ICS roms are. If i moved over, id prob want to stick to ICS.
Anyone move from Evo to Epic Touch and feel that there are enough roms? That its being supported as much as other HTC phones?
Any input?
Depends. The Stock Touchwiz Roms from samsung has plenty of development here. The AOSP side we just barely got a CM7/KANG that has quite a few bugs. For some those bugs arent a problem, but for me it didnt pass as a daily driver.
Also the whole Clockworkmod-fused-with-the-kernel/rom on this phone will give you a headache if this is your first time rooting a Samsung Phone.
It would be my first Samsung rooting. I have looked over the instructions and saw it's somewhat different from HTC style, but nothing I can't handle.
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I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.
No where
I see that no one has answered your main question...There are no ICS ROMs available as of right now...The deves are creating a base for it so when its possible to create one, they can implment it faster.
Uhhh. I guess the dev's are working on them.
I'd be stoked if you can work faster than they can, or pay them to work faster...
But it's not like changing a battery, there's a lot of work that goes into cooking a ROM.
They want to get CM7 complete and stable as a base to use for other Aosp roms. Samsung's official ICS for our device will have touchwiz and I think 95% of us don't want that. We need Aosp roms and kernels nailed down before we progress any further. Once the devs have a stable functional base to work from other doors will open. It takes time.
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I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.
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I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.
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thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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There may not be ICS but this is still a hell of a phone. In the market oyher than the Google phone just coming out this is the top of the line. I came from an Evo and I love it
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I think its Samsung vs HTC thing
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I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.
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I think its more because Samsung is not releasing the source code, once they put it out our esteemed devs will bring ICS very fast. HTC is very fast about everything giving out source, update etc. I am just waiting for HTC to come with some phone which is a little bit better in specs and I am getting that. Samsung phones just looks beatifull. I want a phone that works as good and is backed up by support from the Manufacturer.
The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
Honestly the new Touchwiz isn't that bad. The only people making a big fat fuss over it seem to be previous HTC owners. Let me tell you, sense sucks big fat donkey balls compared to Touchwiz. I was a Go Launcher devotee prior to owning the Epic Touch. Touchwiz has proved to be ok for me.
I would still be completely happy with my day one purchase of Epic Touch even if we don't end up getting ICS until mid next year, gingerbread on this thing still flies compared to every other phone out there.
Furthermore, the OG Epic had a slow but steady dev community. Half the roms I flashed on the evo ended up being kangs or just plain crappy old skins. There were a few really good ones, salvagemod was the best vanilla AOSP. But really, the OG Epic community put out some real quality stuff, albeit at a slower pace.
Honest answer: jump in, the water is fine. Yeah, ICS will be quite nice once we get it, but in the meantime, there isn't a better phone you can get on sprint than the Epic touch.
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thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...
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Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...
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Literally was writing this verbatim! LOL. I'm guessing OP posted without looking anywhere but the EVO forum and this Q and A section or the dozens of ICS threads would have reached out and smacked him in the eye.
Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit
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The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
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I definitely agree with you in that the Evo is old news. Which is why I'm considering the upgrade to begin with. It is showing it's age more and more.
Thank you for your input.
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Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit
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Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.
Does Sammy not release source code? Aren't they legally required to do this?
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Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.
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I really don't see anyone trolling you here. Looks like a pretty tame thread to me. My comment was probably the "harshest"if you could call it that. My main point was that you stated that no one was working on ICS and I was pointing out that it would be extremely difficult to miss the fact that several devs are in fact working on ICS, MIUI, CM7+9, AOSP and more TW custom ROM's.
I don't think any of us disagree that we wish there we more things going on, but I also think people forget that the EVO dev process was not overnight. Go back to the first EVO posts and you can see that it was several weeks from release before the customization started and a couple months before things really got going. And when the EVO came out, there was zero worthy competition. Pretty much everyone jumped on the EVO train.
I don't think that anyone here is upset by your post, but I do think it discounts the efforts that have been going on for well over a month to get ICS and the other goods to this device.
"There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on." I think that statement was the one that bothered me because it clearly showed that you were making assumptions without doing any research. And we have enough people in this forum doing plenty of that already. In fact, I have never seen more dev cooperation on any other device. Take a look at the ICS thread from the beginning and you'll see some amazing teamwork. Unfortunately derailed by demanding and entitled community members and leeches, but still alive and kicking in IRC and private spaces.
But I digress, the main point, you probably wouldn't be disappointed by picking up this phone. IMO, it is the best out right now and a quick look around will show you that the number of ROMs is about to hit a stride. The dates of release can show you that new work has just arrived and its beginning to look a lot like EVO-town in here.
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Coming from the Evo 4G and writing guides and helping people on those forums for a while, I bought an E4GT.
Compared to the Evo just development wise on XDA, there aren't as many ROMs or as much development going on.
But phone wise, its a great phone and a great upgrade from the Evo 4G. Personally I use Launcher Pro/ADW so slapping that over TouchWiz is great.
Rooting is simple. There are auto roots going on and not as much of a pain as the Evo 4G. Also flashing things like Radios, ROMs, etc are faster as well because of the difference in phone speed and boot speed.
As for ICS, there was something in the works, but I think there hasn't been any much development on it.
I'm curious if anyone has any idea as to whether or not the recent developments in ICS for our device has impacted CyanogenMod's decision to support us with CM9. I'm looking for *Official* support. Cause I think that would be totally dope. Is anyone in communication with them?
This isnt "official" but i think it had no real impact because all the drivers were already made
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My bad I read the above post wrong
I should go sleep
Bad Cold and sleep deprevitions does not help ppl think straight
I thought you asked if fb17 helped cm9 get better or something along those lines
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/progress-on-cm9
Read this. We have a chance for official support
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I would say the chances are very good that we get full CM9 support. The biggest issue is that the latest build are using leaked closed source kernel rather than one built straight from sources. Assuming ICS gets released for this phone we will eventually have access to the source.
Even then there will be chunks of proprietary code that may need to be worked around. Thankfully other than the CDMA and 4G radios, we share a lot in common with the international GSII which should mean what works for them should work for us and vice versa.
Anyone else BORED?! I wanted this phone so bad, and I was extremely excited when I first got it in December. Its still a beast of a phone, but the flashaholic in me is BORED! (Especially coming from an EVO 4G) Am I alone in this?! When AOKP/CM9 first arrived it was exciting, but the TW ICS leaks got old pretty fast. And who wants ICS anymore with the arrival of Jelly Bean! It just seems as if everything has slowed down CONSIDERABLY....and I get why....it just sucks!
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Anyone else BORED?! I wanted this phone so bad, and I was extremely excited when I first got it in December. Its still a beast of a phone, but the flashaholic in me is BORED! (Especially coming from an EVO 4G) Am I alone in this?! When AOKP/CM9 first arrived it was exciting, but the TW ICS leaks got old pretty fast. And who wants ICS anymore with the arrival of Jelly Bean! It just seems as if everything has slowed down CONSIDERABLY....and I get why....it just sucks!
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If you're bored then you aren't taking full advantage of all the incredible ICS ROMs available.
Take a walk on the wild side and flash a new one each week until someone ports Jelly Bean, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm sure if it can be done one of our Devs will do it but most of them are focused on getting source for ICS right now so they can improve on their existing ROMs and build new ones.
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Anyone else BORED?! I wanted this phone so bad, and I was extremely excited when I first got it in December. Its still a beast of a phone, but the flashaholic in me is BORED! (Especially coming from an EVO 4G) Am I alone in this?! When AOKP/CM9 first arrived it was exciting, but the TW ICS leaks got old pretty fast. And who wants ICS anymore with the arrival of Jelly Bean! It just seems as if everything has slowed down CONSIDERABLY....and I get why....it just sucks!
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I feel the same, and yes I flashed all ROM that are currently on first page of developers section. So yes I taste the full potentials of many ROMs but no single one satisfy me like to keep one as daily driver.
if youre bored you havent flashed my roms.. i make new builds daily.. i just dont post them here.. they change too much.. you can find me on irc, or look around and i bet you can find the roms...
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if youre bored you havent flashed my roms.. i make new builds daily.. i just dont post them here.. they change too much.. you can find me on irc, or look around and i bet you can find the roms...
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Ill definitely check them out! I need something new!
I feel the same way. Thinking of just getting the SGS3 since I still have an upgrade left.
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I feel the same way. Thinking of just getting the SGS3 since I still have an upgrade left.
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You realize there's like 2 roms so far for the SGS3, right?
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if youre bored you havent flashed my roms.. i make new builds daily.. i just dont post them here.. they change too much.. you can find me on irc, or look around and i bet you can find the roms...
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PM me please I never ever used IRC want to try something new.
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Jelly has been out for like 4 days
if you want things that fast get a nexus
I found myself to be "bored" as well, but then I realized that the reason was because of the stability I was getting on Blazer 4.0 (four months of use!).
Still looking for my fix, I started testing out all the new offerings on here. I ruined one GS2, "unbricked" it, bought a white one, then stopped in the GS3 forum to see that PH was making a Blazer rom for that too.
So I picked up a GS3 to keep me busy in my down time.
You could probably go back to your Evo and start having fun again since our work is so boring over here.
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+1 why not create your own ROM instead of insulting all our devs here, why do you need to complain for something that you didnt even developed or created
Where in irc is everyone?
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Bored seems to be a strong word. I don't think it's that the devs stopped working because there's still plenty going on. They are working hard with what they have but that's just the thing - they don't have a lot to work with. No source, nothing.
Things might be a bit more "exciting" for you if we had real access to Cyanogen or just AOSP in general but we don't. No offense to the devs involved in AOSP roms and the AOKP rom, but they are highly hacked in order to make them work decently on this phone.
For one we're dealing with the Exynos processor - not the S4. Also, Samsung sucked on their source release, from what I understand it was incomplete and will probably be the same with ICS. There's also the emergency call issue the CM team found which is why our phones not supported. Again, that's because of the incomplete source Samsung gave us citing 'proprietary code' being the reason it was incomplete.
So if you'd like to tell someone how bored your experience is with this phone - tell Samsung. Otherwise it's falling on deaf ears around here.
I stopped coming back because way too many people complain about everything...oh well
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I'm only bored because I have found a stable daily driver.
Yes, it's exciting to have the latest, but ****s got to work.
Major props to chris41G and crew. I throw money at these guys as much as I can because without them, you would truly know what it is to be bored with your phone... Amazing stuff these guys are doing without source! :highfive:
i am still on aokp 37, even tho 40 is out i'm holding out for source. it's just sort of a pain to backup and reflash and set everything when i feel like it's so close to being "next level". 37 does have a few hiccups but it's been my daily driver since the day it was released.
with the gsiii out and jellybean as the new hotness, i really hope sammy doesn't hold out on us too much longer.
all that said, i don't think it's fair to criticize the scene here at xda (not that "being bored" is major criticism at that) as it's really samsung holding everything up.
dazednconfused said:
You could probably go back to your Evo and start having fun again since our work is so boring over here.
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Come on dazed don't put on your sensitive hat. Dude didn't mean it as an insult we all love your work. And appreciate just like all the other devs. I think a lot of his point is really contributed to how the leaks have just slowed down. And how jb is basically out now and we still don't have the official ics update and source for our phone. I feel the same way and I am a flashaholic too. But I am confident once we do get out update plus source we are really gonna see a whole new world open for our device. It's just patients
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cas8180 said:
Come on dazed don't put on your sensitive hat. Dude didn't mean it as an insult we all love your work. And appreciate just like all the other devs. I think a lot of his point is really contributed to how the leaks have just slowed down. And how jb is basically out now and we still don't have the official ics update and source for our phone. I feel the same way and I am a flashaholic too. But I am confident once we do get out update plus source we are really gonna see a whole new world open for our device. It's just patients
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I don't have my "sensative hat" on, I was just stating that if he's not happy go elsewhere. I don't put my stuff on the level as other devs here anyway. I dont consider myself a dev. The things they do are amazing. I would've never released anything without them and their work. So at least so some consideration to them and word it more to Samsung if that's what he's complaining about.
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