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Sadly i am still experiencing a crackling and failing BT connection while on the phone with someone after upgrading from 1900 to 3500 (it did improve on my side)
I dont think this can be resolved at the time, so its not really my question. (but if there is a fix, please say so )
My real question is this:
Is there any way to use this headset to listen music on?
So that if i play an MP3 the music comes out of the earpiece of the BT headset and not out of the PPC Speaker?
Come on guys, i cant imagine i am the only one who wants to listen to music through his BT headset
My understanding is that the Blue Angel platform is not capable of doing this. I believe that there is something called ADP2 profile that is necessary to make this work.
Rick
same problem here
Is there anyone out there who uses their mda in combination with bluetooth without problems like sudden disconnects or crackling soundz?
To: Sabofx
I am using a Plantronics M2500 headset with my PDA2K and it is not bad. I previously used the Jabra BT250 but there was so much static that I stopped using it.
With the M2500 I sometimes get a little static at the beginning of a call (but no where near as loud as the Jabra) but it generally goes away in a couple of seconds as long as I have 2 to 3 bars of signal strength reception.
I normally carry my PDA2K on my right side and wear the headset on the same side. Then when I get in my truck, the PDA2K is placed in the mount on my dashboard about 1 meter from the headset.
One thing I have noticed though, if I am talking on the phone via the headset and I am holding the PDA2K in my hand and moving it around at arms length the static tends to come back. If I place the PDA2K on my desk or in the car mount so it is stationary, the static goes away.
Also, in observation, there is no way I get more than 3-5 meters of distance before loosing the bluetooth signal. For example, I can keep a connection while I am putting gas in my truck but as soon as I walk about 5 meters away from my truck, I lose the connection. Also, ocassionaly I have lost the connection with my PDA2K on my belt (right side) if I have on a heavy winter coat. This only happens ocassionaly though.
Hope this helps.
So I've got a pair (if you can call it a pair) of Motorola Motorokr S9-HD Headphones.
I can connect them to the phone just fine, but when I cover the bottom portion of the phone with my hand the signal drops out completely and I was wondering if anyone else experiences this or if it's just me.
So surrounding the bottom portion of the phone (with the Home, Menu, Search and Back buttons) with my hand and the signal drops out. Headphones on, phone in front of me.
Same thing happens if I push the phone up against my chest/stomach, no signal. Sometimes to the point that it disconnects entirely.
Normally I would be like "no big deal, I just won't do that." But the phone being in either my front or back pocket causes the same effect, making them kind of useless.
So, end result, is it my headphones, my phone, or both? Can you test the headset you have and see how it works out for you?
I've attempted this on stock ROM with Root, Fresh 5.3, and DC 3.2.3 with the same results each time.
I tihnk the BT and WIFI ant's are on the bottom
teh CDMA is on top -- if i cover the top, i can go from 4 bars to 0 barz
if i cover the bottom the wifi drops a lot
i think the BT ant is pretty weak .. couldn't go more than 10 ft from a laptop doing audio streaming
i'll try the BT later on when i get home unless someone else gets to it first
strung said:
I tihnk the BT and WIFI ant's are on the bottom
teh CDMA is on top -- if i cover the top, i can go from 4 bars to 0 barz
if i cover the bottom the wifi drops a lot
i think the BT ant is pretty weak .. couldn't go more than 10 ft from a laptop doing audio streaming
i'll try the BT later on when i get home unless someone else gets to it first
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Well if the BT antenna isn't on the bottom, then why is it when I put my hand over the bottom the signal drops?
I want to see if anyone else can replicate this issue..
I have the same headset. I tried everything you did and it works for me. I occasionally get a breakup of audio, but it is not related, however it is the headset.
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I have the same headset. I tried everything you did and it works for me. I occasionally get a breakup of audio, but it is not related, however it is the headset.
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Damn, that sucks. I hardly used the damn thing. Thanks for checking it out, I would have assumed it was the phone.
Sirchuk said:
Well if the BT antenna isn't on the bottom, then why is it when I put my hand over the bottom the signal drops?
I want to see if anyone else can replicate this issue..
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i'm saying the tooth antenna IS (probably) on the bottom hence why you cover it up it dont work as good. sorry my grammer sucks
I would swap it for another one. While generally I find the headset to be a great improvement over past Bluetooth Headsets, I am still not impressed that after 15 years that bluetooth has been around that it has yet to impress me as a wireless medium.
This headset is still only class 2 and Bluetooth 2.0. Where are all of the Class 1 and Bluetooth 4.0 devices?
I have tried all the Plantronic, Jawbone and Numerous Motorola devices and have been left wanting. I will probably be returning this headset as well. Although it has good sound quality, the earbuds (event he smallest ones) are too big for my ears and they do not seat down inside like a quality pair of tips. The phone breaks up especially while on the phone, but for listening to music, it is in general quite a good device.
The biggest problem with going wired headsets is that people have quit making a good wired stereo heatset with mic.
well, I have had 20 or more BT headsets, and, the only one I have EVER had that played music without breakup is the Jawbone Icon..
Sure the sound sucks, its mono and tinny, but I never lose signal with pandora, slacker, or sd card music with this headset..
motorola s9HD was one of the worst ones I had for losing signal from my phones..agree that its a shame that no one is able to make a HQ STEREO BT lightweight headset that doesnt drop signal yet..
the backbeats are damn good for music, world better than my s9s. ive got the 903 but the 906 are supposedly even better
I have the same issue with the motorolas, not as bad as you but I do get the breakup if i carry the phone in front of me. I have the Shure 530 headphones which kick ass so I got a Sony BT Transmitter, I think it is the BT15 or maybe the BT30, works perfect for me, I clip it on the front of my shirt plug in the Shures and presto bluetooth. The receiver even has a built in mic, works about as good as the Motorolas.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=sony+bt15&rlz=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=10714892124428811058&ei=YH43TJrnAdWfnwf_ob2ABA&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CC0Q8wIwAg#
I can't for the life of me remember which one I have but be advised one of them has a mini usb charger the other requires a specific cradle, i go the one that has the mini usb, didn't want to carry around a specific charger for this.
So, I bought a Belkin Bluetooth receiver yesterday to get rid of my 5 meter (15 feet) cable to my amplifier. The devices pair up nicely and sweet music streams out of my loudspeakers.
But I notice that when Bluetooth is activated it can mess up my WiFi. If I have the phone laying down on the sofa or on my living room table its OK. But if I pick the phone up and if I have my hand on the upper half of the Desire, the music starts to lag and the WiFi disconnects and reconnects. It keep on doing that until I remove my hand. Have anyone else experienced this problem?
This is only 3 meters (9 feet) away from the Bluetooth receiver, noting blocking the signal. Also, I can not move away from the receiver more than 5 meters (15 feet). If so the reception is lost. Disappointing because it should be more like 10 meters or 30 feet before signal lost, at least with clear sight...
Currently I'm on Open Desire 4.0.34 and radio 5.10.05.23, but I have tried with both newer and older radio releases.
Just thinking, is the Desire poorly designed regarding the RF-area. Or is it my phone that is broken? Cause I use Spotify alot and I don't have room for almost all music in the world on my SD-card, so WiFi is important
I have the same, the WiFi areal seems to be located at the top half of the phone. You just need to hold it by the bottom half.
Recently I came across a very strange issue with my Defy. Whenever i wanted to listen to music with my defy via the external connected speaker the phone was getting almost completely unresponsive, the touch screen was going wild - apps running themselves, random buttons pressed themseves etc. Most of the time I streamed the music with Digitally Imported radio or Tune-In Radio and I thought that these applications use a lot o memory and processor and simply my phone doesn't manage to run them and multitask and be fast while I'm using them. But with some time I notced that the freezes and unresponsiveness are only an issue when connected to the speakers, and not when the music is played by the internal speakers or even my headphones.
The speaker I own is a JBL On-Call one (really good sound btw ) but I notced that it conducts an electric current through the wire which Im using to connect the speaker to the Defy , and this causes the problem. I could even feel the current on the wire's jack wth my bare finger. This never happend when the phone is connected to any other speakers or headphones.
So just out of my interest I created this thread here, so maybe it helps other people to find the reason for a similar behavior in theirs phone.
Grounding is not good enough for the JBL as the Defy picks up even a very little leak current flow from the connected external ground. If you have a PC tower casing or other appliances with metal casing, try connect the JBL speaker's jack ground to these casing while connected to your Defy and play a music. I assumed you should know the little wiring experiment here. Worried not as nothing will harm your Defy with this test.
Hi all,
I bought a pair of Plantronics Backbeat 903+ headphones yesterday.
Thought I'd put a quick review and warning for anyone that is thinking of using BT headphones for anything that is latency sensitive.
I will use them mainly for music. Probably rarely for phone calls unless I happen to be listening to music when I get a call.
Sound quality is quite good. They sound fuller and not as harsh as the stock headphones that came with the Note.
Better than I expected, but there is a lack of highs. It was very noticeable when compared to my cheap, corded, Philips SHL9500 foldable headphones that I usually travel with.
Had to nudge the highs up in the EQ of Power Amp to be able to hear the treble well.
Range is better than I expected too. I'm just in a small apartment, but I could walk all around the room and into the next room and around the corner (losing line of sight), with no noticeable difference in sound. This was further than the 10m range they claim.
I also put the phone in my jeans pocket and it continued to work fine. I'd read some reviews complaining that it needed line of sight or would drop out, but no such problems for me.
Battery life is awesome on these. They claim a full charge will last 7 hours. I used them for 3-4 hours last night.
When I turned them on this morning, they said they had 5 hours remaining. I probably wasn't listening constantly over the 3-4 hours last night as I was starting and stopping apps, so that is probably about right.
Also, when you turn them, a voice announces how many hours the battery has left which is handy since there is no visual indicators.
Comfort for me was very good. I had them on for almost 4 hours last night and didn't notice them most of the time. Although when I took them off, my ears were a little sore from the buds being in there, but with most in ear phones my ears get sore sooner than that and I notice it whilst they are still in there.
Note that the cord between each ear is quite short and only just reaches around my head. I can fit 2 fingers between the cord and my head, but only just, and I have a shaved head. I also tried on the Jabra Sports in the shop, but they didn't feel as comfortable to me, and also the cord was quite a bit longer and I thought it may get in the way or get caught on something when exercising. So best to try them on in a shop to check if they fit your head.
One thing I didn't realise about bluetooth headphones is that they introduce latency. It seems to be about 500ms.
You can test the latency by connecting the BT headphones and then changing your ring tone. When you audition different ring tones it will play them through both the phone speaker and the headphones, and you will hear the lag.
In addition to listening to MP3s, what I primarily wanted them for was for music apps and recording, so that I wouldn't have a cord getting in the way, or have to be restricted to the length of the cable.
It's not too big a deal with the multi track programs I use (Loopstack and Audio Evolution mainly, with FourTracksPro) as I can adjust the latency, but it means I have to change it depending on whether I'm using the BT headphones or not).
But for apps that require live input and monitoring (like drum, guitar, piano apps that you play and want to hear yourself playing live), the latency makes them not really useable.
I can still use these headphones to record guitars and vocals through the Note's microphone, but I just need to adjust the latency which is annoying.
Any music app that is program/sequence based like Caustic or Easyband, is not too much of a problem as you don't really notice the latency, apart from the fact that what you see on the screen is slightly out of sync with what you hear.
Also for games that require the audio to be in sync with the screen, the 500ms is not really useable (I have a game called Beats, which is a rhythm game and you need the screen and audio to be in sync).
For video, though using the stock video player, it is in sync, so there must be some latency compensation going on in the software which is good.
When I tried youtube, using the youtube app, it is out of sync at the start, but then it gets into sync, so there is some kind of buffering or compensation giong on there too.
So, if it's just listening to music or watching video is what you want them for, I thin they are really good.
If you want to use them for games or music apps that will be negatively impacted by the latency, then you are probably better off sticking with corded headphones.
I will probably end up carrying corded phones with me when I travel for the times when I don't want any latency.
But for walking around, exercising, just casual use, the Backbeat 903+ headphones are really good and am happy to be free from a cord for those situations.
Cheers,
Rich
good review...I was planning to pick one up.
richlum said:
Hi all,
I bought a pair of Plantronics Backbeat 903+ headphones yesterday.
Thought I'd put a quick review and warning for anyone that is thinking of using BT headphones for anything that is latency sensitive.
I will use them mainly for music. Probably rarely for phone calls unless I happen to be listening to music when I get a call.
Sound quality is quite good. They sound fuller and not as harsh as the stock headphones that came with the Note.
Better than I expected, but there is a lack of highs. It was very noticeable when compared to my cheap, corded, Philips SHL9500 foldable headphones that I usually travel with.
Had to nudge the highs up in the EQ of Power Amp to be able to hear the treble well.
Range is better than I expected too. I'm just in a small apartment, but I could walk all around the room and into the next room and around the corner (losing line of sight), with no noticeable difference in sound. This was further than the 10m range they claim.
I also put the phone in my jeans pocket and it continued to work fine. I'd read some reviews complaining that it needed line of sight or would drop out, but no such problems for me.
Battery life is awesome on these. They claim a full charge will last 7 hours. I used them for 3-4 hours last night.
When I turned them on this morning, they said they had 5 hours remaining. I probably wasn't listening constantly over the 3-4 hours last night as I was starting and stopping apps, so that is probably about right.
Also, when you turn them, a voice announces how many hours the battery has left which is handy since there is no visual indicators.
Comfort for me was very good. I had them on for almost 4 hours last night and didn't notice them most of the time. Although when I took them off, my ears were a little sore from the buds being in there, but with most in ear phones my ears get sore sooner than that and I notice it whilst they are still in there.
Note that the cord between each ear is quite short and only just reaches around my head. I can fit 2 fingers between the cord and my head, but only just, and I have a shaved head. I also tried on the Jabra Sports in the shop, but they didn't feel as comfortable to me, and also the cord was quite a bit longer and I thought it may get in the way or get caught on something when exercising. So best to try them on in a shop to check if they fit your head.
One thing I didn't realise about bluetooth headphones is that they introduce latency. It seems to be about 500ms.
You can test the latency by connecting the BT headphones and then changing your ring tone. When you audition different ring tones it will play them through both the phone speaker and the headphones, and you will hear the lag.
In addition to listening to MP3s, what I primarily wanted them for was for music apps and recording, so that I wouldn't have a cord getting in the way, or have to be restricted to the length of the cable.
It's not too big a deal with the multi track programs I use (Loopstack and Audio Evolution mainly, with FourTracksPro) as I can adjust the latency, but it means I have to change it depending on whether I'm using the BT headphones or not).
But for apps that require live input and monitoring (like drum, guitar, piano apps that you play and want to hear yourself playing live), the latency makes them not really useable.
I can still use these headphones to record guitars and vocals through the Note's microphone, but I just need to adjust the latency which is annoying.
Any music app that is program/sequence based like Caustic or Easyband, is not too much of a problem as you don't really notice the latency, apart from the fact that what you see on the screen is slightly out of sync with what you hear.
Also for games that require the audio to be in sync with the screen, the 500ms is not really useable (I have a game called Beats, which is a rhythm game and you need the screen and audio to be in sync).
For video, though using the stock video player, it is in sync, so there must be some latency compensation going on in the software which is good.
When I tried youtube, using the youtube app, it is out of sync at the start, but then it gets into sync, so there is some kind of buffering or compensation giong on there too.
So, if it's just listening to music or watching video is what you want them for, I thin they are really good.
If you want to use them for games or music apps that will be negatively impacted by the latency, then you are probably better off sticking with corded headphones.
I will probably end up carrying corded phones with me when I travel for the times when I don't want any latency.
But for walking around, exercising, just casual use, the Backbeat 903+ headphones are really good and am happy to be free from a cord for those situations.
Cheers,
Rich
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Thanks for the reviews. I am looking for ones to go to the gym.
I actually own the same model. Owned the previous model up until i wore it out. It's a perfect set of bt headphones to work out with and it's discreet when wearing it around. It fairs well functionality-wise; haven't had an issue with my note.
Thanks for the review.
I have just bought my Note2 and Plantronics 903+ and as i am a normal user (phone calls and music) it is really awesome.
But I have few issues with this and i need your confirmation
1) The Music forward and backward buttons doesn't change the music track? I have my corporate mail and hence have set up PIN lock in my phone. Is that dur to auto locking of phone with PIN or the Bluetooth buttons are not compatible with Samsung Note2?
2) While making calls outside, the noise cancellations is pretty good, but at times i hear some disturbing sound/noise in the call and i am pretty sure it is only through the Bluetooth i hear the noise.
The forward and back buttons work on my Note 2.
You have to hold them for a few seconds otherwise they just do volume up and down.
I'm using N7 player.
I notice that the headphones get A LOT of wind noise when outside. I notice it a lot when riding my bicycle. But, also when just walking.
I've since bought a pair of Jabra Halo 2 and use them most of the time now. They are more comfortable and sound better. Plus, I can connect them with a cord for zero latency.
I use the Plantronics if I'm going to be sweating a lot.
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Nice review and good advice for all potential buyers. However, I feel a clarification about BT latency is in place. Not all bluetooth headsets introduce so much lag. I'm an avid Motorola S10 user and altough some delay is present, it's nowhere near the 500ms OP estimated for the Plantronics set. In fact, even rhytm games like Tapsonic are still playable on the S10, which leads me to believe the delay is more around the 50ms mark. Huge, half-second lag seems to be more a sign of bad implementation by the manufacturer than limitation of the bluetooth standard. Let's not forget that Playstation 3's joypad uses BT technology, but it's implemented so well that tests found it to be practically lagless down to less then a frame ([email protected]) compared to wired connections.
Is that low latency for media playback, or phone calls?
When you connect BT headphones to your phone (or PC) they make 2 connections. 1 for phone calls and 1 for media playback.
Both of my BT headphones have low latency for phone calls because they use a lot lower quality when in phone mode.
But both have high latency for media playback mode. (ie. Anything other than phone calls)
The amount of data required for the BT controllers is a lot less than that required for stereo audio.