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Just curious as to how difficult it would be or if its even possible/worth it to try at all? I know there are themes but I thought I'd ask anyways and I think it would be bad ass
First off, yes. But it's not that simple.
It's definitely possible, as the Sense UI has been ported a couple of times. The only issue is, you need a dev to do it. And to be honest, nobody shows much interest in the TouchWiz UI, Its just a bad android skin. Probably because of the HUGE list of bugs in the UI and the removal of Google Search in favor of Bing, and other random adjustments. Maybe one or two .apks will be ported, but i just don't see any reason to port TouchWiz other than to screw around. And even if, i would hope it would be a rom from The Epic, Captivate, or Vibrant. The fascinate's software simply blows.
And if it does happen, I will be suprised. It wont be easy, as The Fascinate has very different Hardware than the Incredible.
Try out Touch of Photons 2.2. Its over on alldroid's forum under dinc device stuff. It wont let me post the link here since I'm new. I used it for awhile and everything seems to work. Its not a fascinate port. Just a rom that gives a similar feel. The only thing i know that wont work is the Samsung widget option, but other than that its nice. All your camera stuff will still work since rosie is still in it.
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I do believe there is a YouTube video if u wanted to check that out too.
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clabbin said:
Just curious as to how difficult it would be or if its even possible/worth it to try at all?
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not worth anyone's time to port a 2.1 ROM. When the Fascinate is updated to Froyo then that might change, but as others said the interest in the TouchWiz UI is pretty low
Aren't we like behind the times with froyo?
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Really?! I never would've thought it.
I guess you'd better get started developing it.
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I was just asking, I'm no developer, but I have seen other devices with it, I apologize if I offended you or interupted your texting
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You obviously missed my point. Your question was akin to telling people standing in the rain that it's raining. We all know our phone is running an outdated OS, that's why the current CM7 port is under way.
and don't worry, there won't be a release after gingerbread in a while because google is making sure that some fragmentation is going to be removed, which will allow manufacturers to catch up to the google release cycle
I'm not so sure.. And while I was interested in getting 2.2, i've been running that since December. While 2.3 is the latest, I don't believe it offers much of an improvement over 2.2, so other than just saying I'm running 2.3, I don't know what the big deal is, maybe someone can enlighten me and make me anxious for 2.3?
With that said, my guess is most people will be happy with 2.3 for all of about a week. Then they will be wanting something else for their pathetic lives.
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I'm not so sure.. And while I was interested in getting 2.2, i've been running that since December. While 2.3 is the latest, I don't believe it offers much of an improvement over 2.2, so other than just saying I'm running 2.3, I don't know what the big deal is, maybe someone can enlighten me and make me anxious for 2.3?
With that said, my guess is most people will be happy with 2.3 for all of about a week. Then they will be wanting something else for their pathetic lives.
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GPU acceleration in certain parts of the OS, improved JIT, better battery, need I say more?
And there wouldn't be anything to ask for if Samsung had anything other than piss poor software.
I thought only the Nexus phones had Gingerbread so far.
If I'm correct, then we're not really behind - the developer phones are just ahead as I'd expect them to be.
If I'm wrong, then I'm an idiot as I expect me to be.
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I thought only the Nexus phones had Gingerbread so far.
If I'm correct, then we're not really behind - the developer phones are just ahead as I'd expect them to be.
If I'm wrong, then I'm an idiot as I expect me to be.
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All of Sony's new Xperia phones have Gbread, though they're only released in Europe, not to mention the Gbread roms leaked for thr Droid 2/X, but so far only the NEXUS's have official Gbread in the U.S.
Oh okay thanks for that. I had no idea what the Xperias were running.
I still don't think we're actually behind. Every mid level and up phone having Gingerbread while we don't...THAT'S behind.
Of course we're not bleeding edge, but we never were.
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Oh okay thanks for that. I had no idea what the Xperias were running.
I still don't think we're actually behind. Every mid level and up phone having Gingerbread while we don't...THAT'S behind.
Of course we're not bleeding edge, but we never were.
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Just the fact that we are even uncertain about Gbread in the future is a problem. Even LG (a no name as far as Android is concerned) has promised a Gbread update for its Optimus 1 (a phone selling for between FREE an $50 on contract)
Gingerbread really
And from samsung too
Be serious
Did you know it took nearly twice the amount of time for samsung to release official gingerbread on our phones than it took google to make it
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gtuansdiamm said:
Gingerbread really
And from samsung too
Be serious
Did you know it took nearly twice the amount of time for samsung to release official Froyo on our phones than it took google to make it
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My OCD wouldn't let me go without fixing it.
In all fairness, we are not the only smartphone left out in the rain.
From a markting perspective, it sells new phones. This isn't iOS with one device to focus on selling.
If all android phones had the same OS and received updates at the same time, then you would see ads selling us hardware. Most ads point out the operating system as a selling point and this is because there's too much compitition between android devices as well as those of the same manufacturer (think samsung).
It's not fair but then again how are you to convince manufacturers to stop? Google is trying by their recent policy changes, but I don't think we will see a solid standard in android OS for another few years.
The complication is furthered by production of low cost, entry level android devices that don't play well or contain the hardware to push something like GB. You need this demographic since pay as you go appears to be a growing trend.
I am hopeful for a GB release but I know that if we want something bad enough, XDA will likely to figure it out.
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Hummm..
I have builds of GB for both my Epic and EVO.
Not sure where all the fuss over no GB comes from, must be iPhone fans who get Android phones instead, wanting to remain stock for some reason
Has anyone tried to port Android1.6 to the incredible?
Is it even possible?
If no one has, I'd like to give it a shot! I think I have my pc set up for building from source and for porting, just finished with all the downloads and installs with ubuntu 10.10, so any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Why would you want to port Android 1.6? That's 10 steps back from 2.2 ...
I know, just wanted to see if it was possible, and to see what I could do with it if I was able to port or build.
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On top of that. My g/f likes my dinc, but she says its too confusing for her, but when I had a MOTO devour, she loved that phone. So I was thinkin that if I could make a custom 1.6 Rom for her, she wouldn't have to steal my phone anymore and turn around and complain about not being able to work it!!
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1. Probably not possible based on the hardware specifics and apis needed.
2. Why even waste the time? Just date a girl who isn't so stupid that she can't work a drop dead simple OS with a UI layer that makes it even EASIER.
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1. Probably not possible based on the hardware specifics and apis needed.
2. Why even waste the time? Just date a girl who isn't so stupid that she can't work a drop dead simple OS with a UI layer that makes it even EASIER.
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Funny. Not nice. But funny. Lol'd
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Oooooooook.... thanks for the insight.
I see your point, but do you really have to be a **** about it?
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If you're looking for a simple-ish rom try MIUI. It's slightly buggy, but I've used it as my daily since Novemeber 2010. It is visually influenced by iOS so it is possibly more simple to use, but it still offers all the benefits of Android.
Yea, ok. I've used miui before! That may actually work for her, thanks.
It's been about 2 or 3 months since I flashed it, what are the latest fixes and kernel?
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How about loading ADW Launcher and making her a super simple 2 or 3 screens with everything she would need then locking the screen?
Good Rage song... Grew up listening to them..... And punk rock.... Fawk rap.
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Grew up listening to them!?!?!?! How old are you? That song came out when I was in high-school... :/
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6stringandy said:
Grew up listening to them!?!?!?! How old are you? That song came out when I was in high-school... :/
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Lol came out a year and a few months after I was born.
(On topic)
If you do pull off getting Donut to work on the Inc, I would certainly try it out. I wasn't around for the earlier days of Android and would like to try it out first hand .
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Grew up listening to them!?!?!?! How old are you? That song came out when I was in high-school... :/
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About to turn 42.... Im old. Remember driving to Airborne school listening to to a cd that had just come out.
Blah12543 said:
Lol came out a year and a few months after I was born.
(On topic)
If you do pull off getting Donut to work on the Inc, I would certainly try it out. I wasn't around for the earlier days of Android and would like to try it out first hand .
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I feel old at 36 now.
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why not take 5 minutes and show her how to use the phone? **** even my dad is learning how to use my phone and he still uses a flip phone. convinced him to wait for the Inc2. never thought I'd see the day he used a smartphone. never in a million years. He a construction worker with huge hands, you should be able to teach her what she needs. It's not too hard to distinguish the phone button and stuff like that HTC Sense is made to be simple. just not idiotproof like the iCrap. Good luck.
Teaching her to use this phone is like teaching a 2 yr old quantum physics, and this time she won't even try. I told her there's not really any difference in operating between 1.6 and 2.2 but she just.....don't......get it, and I give up.
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Yea, ok. I've used miui before! That may actually work for her, thanks.
It's been about 2 or 3 months since I flashed it, what are the latest fixes and kernel?
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Given that they update weekly, quite a lot. It's running GB now, and has incorporated things such as app/system backup, a simple file explorer (with ftp-server functionality) and quite a bit more. The chinese devs created an english side to their site and posted a youtube video of the newest generation. Can't post links yet, but go to youtube and search for "MIUI ROM 7th closed beta version" and it'll pop right up.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/security-and-you
An interesting change, I'd say...
Care to give those of us to lazy to read this, the readers digest version?
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Care to give those of us to lazy to read this, the readers digest version?
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CM9 will come with root access turned off (from the rom) by default. There is a new option so that you can turn root on be it for
Disabled,
Enabled for ADB only
Enabled for Apps only
Enabled for both.
That's all this really is.
Root is taken out of the builds for security purposes. You can enable root through adb.
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Root is taken out of the builds for security purposes. You can enable root through adb.
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You CAN enable ADB root using ADB which almost seems like a security flaw ADB root access is off by default as well.
But from what I have read ADB will not be required to set this. It just has to be changed by the user from the development options.
I have been wondering about this for a looooooong time. When we root our devices we are voluntarily opening up the biggest hole possible. I'm glad to see it addressed in such a practical manner.
Cyanogen sucks now.
They sucked ever after CM6, they just can't get anything out anymore.
They just can get anything developed anymore.
Very disappointing. Thier roms were awesome, but i think he lost his touch.
I honestly can't figure out why they have so much invested, website, hosting and all, and just can't put out a functioning rom anymore.
They are just kanged left and right now to get roms developed, since they never get around to doing anything.
AOKP is the new Cyan. They rock.
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Cyanogen sucks now.
They sucked ever after CM6, they just can't get anything out anymore.
They just can get anything developed anymore.
Very disappointing. Thier roms were awesome, but i think he lost his touch.
I honestly can't figure out why they have so much invested, website, hosting and all, and just can't put out a functioning rom anymore.
They are just kanged left and right now to get roms developed, since they never get around to doing anything.
AOKP is the new Cyan. They rock.
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....maybe it's just the devices you've owned?
Ask someone with an OG droid, or someone with an Evo, or a Hero, or a GSM Samsung Anything....Hell, CM7 is fantastic on my Nook Color....Cm9 is too, though--I don't remember--I think It's a kang....
The only issue I've had has been with CDMA Samsung handsets...
EDIT: I guess what I mean to say is, there is so much to support that unless you have one of the heavily supported (or easily supported) devices then the fact that it boots up and works at all should be impressive enough.....On all the above mentioned devices I had a nearly flawless experience far preferable to stock....and even with the CM7 kangs (though I haven't tried the CM9s yet). I'm not so sure we'll ever get official support at this rate, though I'm not convinced that's a death sentence. Bubby's Cm7 was working nearly flawlessly for me, aside from a scant few mildly irritating bugs....
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Cyanogen sucks now.
They sucked ever after CM6, they just can't get anything out anymore.
They just can get anything developed anymore.
Very disappointing. Thier roms were awesome, but i think he lost his touch.
I honestly can't figure out why they have so much invested, website, hosting and all, and just can't put out a functioning rom anymore.
They are just kanged left and right now to get roms developed, since they never get around to doing anything.
AOKP is the new Cyan. They rock.
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I saw nightlies left and right on my OG Evo and though the E4GT may not get official CM7 support, We'll surely get offical CM9.
They couldn't get much done for a while because they were using older servers that couldn't keep up. Now they have nightlies going on the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Xoom, Asus Transformer, Asus Transformer Prime, and the HP Touchpad.
I'm sure we'll get nightlies soon enough and you'll be seeing official functioning ROM's everywhere.
We already have functional CM9.
What is AOKP built on anyway?
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http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/security-and-you
An interesting change, I'd say...
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I think they're trying to go mainstream, maybe OEMs will start putting CM on their phones instead of their own skins. It would be a huge selling point.
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maybe OEMs will start putting CM on their phones instead of their own skins. It would be a huge selling point.
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Problem is the root is still easily accessible. You would see them providing rooting methods for their own software before you saw that. The carriers would also want nothing to do with it. The manufacturer still has the concern of warranty while the carriers have the concern of tethering etc. Carriers likely would never reject an entire manufacturers line, they will always have to cave to some things they do not like.
Though selling unlocked devices with CM much as PC manufacturers will sell hardware with alternative operating systems isn't outrageous. As for the concern of warranty and software caused damage. Routers for example have set a precedent in the support of custom firmware while maintaining warranty. There is plenty of unbricking support in routers. Though providing accessible jtag interfaces in devices that would be sold both retail and unlocked would probably be interesting. Thats just a need in a worst case scenario though not required.
They do seem to be moving in that direction for whatever intent or purpose.
The Samsung Galaxy S2 is actually listed by Mozilla as a supported device for Firefox OS....
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Firefox_OS_build_prerequisites
... with one important note:
Samsung Galaxy S2
The only model that works is the i9100; no other variants are officially compatible. (i9100P might work, since the only change is a NFC chip added)
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Does this mean our SGH-T989 will not be compatible? Has anyone actually tried Firefox OS with our model?
If someone tried it, there would probably be a thread on it somewhere. About it working on our devices, just take a step back and think, can we run i9000 roms? Our phones and the i9000 are pretty different and I doubt Mozilla would go out of their way to get a t989 and do the work themselves, since our phone isnt International and only sold in a handful or markets. Can it be made to work on our phones? Possibly, with a knowledgeable Dev doing the work, and even then who knows.
The OS as a whole seems to be still in a "beta" form so its not ready yet for the consumer so I doubt anyone would do all the work to port it over to have a half assed OS on their phones, but possibly with time, when the OS is good to go for the market someone will do the leg work to port it over to our phones, but I probably wouldnt hold my breath.
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If someone tried it, there would probably be a thread on it somewhere. About it working on our devices, just take a step back and think, can we run i9000 roms? Our phones and the i9000 are pretty different and I doubt Mozilla would go out of their way to get a t989 and do the work themselves, since our phone isnt International and only sold in a handful or markets. Can it be made to work on our phones? Possibly, with a knowledgeable Dev doing the work, and even then who knows.
The OS as a whole seems to be still in a "beta" form so its not ready yet for the consumer so I doubt anyone would do all the work to port it over to have a half assed OS on their phones, but possibly with time, when the OS is good to go for the market someone will do the leg work to port it over to our phones, but I probably wouldnt hold my breath.
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Still to this day android is still a beta imo
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Does this mean our SGH-T989 will not be compatible?
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Is
The only model that works is the i9100; no other variants are officially compatible.
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not clear enough?
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Still to this day android is still a beta imo
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You could say that. I personally think it was beta back in the Gingerbread days, and ICS was a huge improvement and JB is the topping to the ice cream sandwich lol, imo JB is like rc, its a finished product, it can only get better.
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You could say that. I personally think it was beta back in the Gingerbread days, and ICS was a huge improvement and JB is the topping to the ice cream sandwich lol, imo JB is like rc, its a finished product, it can only get better.
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Then sooo were iOS 1,2 and 3 lol. You guys just say that because even in the 2.x days android was faaaaar lagging behind iOS in both the software AND hardware requirements. Jellybean was the first rendition to properly render GUI elements using the GPU (ICS started it, wasn't complete though) hence the notorious "android lag.". IOS was smooth from the start, powervmr .
That being said, I personally dislike Apple products, go figure
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If someone tried it, there would probably be a thread on it somewhere. About it working on our devices, just take a step back and think, can we run i9000 roms? Our phones and the i9000 are pretty different and I doubt Mozilla would go out of their way to get a t989 and do the work themselves, since our phone isnt International and only sold in a handful or markets. Can it be made to work on our phones? Possibly, with a knowledgeable Dev doing the work, and even then who knows.
The OS as a whole seems to be still in a "beta" form so its not ready yet for the consumer so I doubt anyone would do all the work to port it over to have a half assed OS on their phones, but possibly with time, when the OS is good to go for the market someone will do the leg work to port it over to our phones, but I probably wouldnt hold my breath.
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don728871 said that Android is still a Beta. In a sense, that is true. It's a work in progress that will probably not end. Ever. In that sense, it is still a beta as it also takes in data and user submitted reviews about their issues, likes, dislikes and the such to make it better and better and better.
Now, for Firefox OS, I'd consider it more of a pre-release alpha. They've got the concept down, they've got a working-ish OS for the most part but yes, like you said, it's a half assed ish OS for the most part and probably, nobody would use this as their daily driver until a stable beta (after extensive testing, updates and stuff) is released.
So for now, nothing to expect here. Let's move along shall we?
Wait a sec, let's look at iOS.
Now, yeah, people say it's lag free. True-ish for the most part...
but let's look at it from another perspective. Has iOS 6 changed in any way?
Yeah, I guess in optimization and whatnot but come on, what OS has changed so dramatically?
Evolved in such a way that it's already awesome but it just keeps getting better and better?
That, as we all know, is android. From Cupcake, we've come a long way to Jelly Bean.
That was 4 years ago. Took a while...
Now knowing how other OS's evolved,
it is now safe to assume that Firefox OS isn't going anywhere far for now.
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don728871 said that Android is still a Beta. In a sense, that is true. It's a work in progress that will probably not end. Ever. In that sense, it is still a beta as it also takes in data and user submitted reviews about their issues, likes, dislikes and the such to make it better and better and better.
Now, for Firefox OS, I'd consider it more of a pre-release alpha. They've got the concept down, they've got a working-ish OS for the most part but yes, like you said, it's a half assed ish OS for the most part and probably, nobody would use this as their daily driver until a stable beta (after extensive testing, updates and stuff) is released.
So for now, nothing to expect here. Let's move along shall we?
Wait a sec, let's look at iOS.
Now, yeah, people say it's lag free. True-ish for the most part...
but let's look at it from another perspective. Has iOS 6 changed in any way?
Yeah, I guess in optimization and whatnot but come on, what OS has changed so dramatically?
Evolved in such a way that it's already awesome but it just keeps getting better and better?
That, as we all know, is android. From Cupcake, we've come a long way to Jelly Bean.
That was 4 years ago. Took a while...
Now knowing how other OS's evolved,
it is now safe to assume that Firefox OS isn't going anywhere far for now.
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Excellent point! Android Evolution has been gradual and drastic ... but still, when it did pick up, it was different. I think if Firefox OS can include a captivating element right from the start, it can make an impact. However, I don't see it being too radically remarkable.