Hello!
This evening I wanted to clean my SD card, as I have used it in 3 different phones and it had lots of unnecessary files. Prior to do so, I made a back up of all my apps with Titanium Backup. Then I erased all the content of my card (except the folder where the backup was stored) and then I restored the backup.
The problem comes here. It happens that before doing anything I had more than 25MB of internal storage available. After restoring the backup I have less than 4MB. What is my problem?
During the restoration process Titanium Backup crashed twice and I had to restart the process again. Is it possible that some data has been copied to my phone more than once and it is occupying more than it should?
What can I do?
Thank you all in advance.
Mybe befor you did the backup, you had some apps installed on the SDcard. Try moving some apps back to the SD card, you can download app2SD tools from the market witch will tell you what apps can be moved.
Titanium backup might have moved all apps onto your internal.
Or you could just try a data2SD rom and never worry about getting low space I have 2GB internal memory
Also clear cache for some apps that takes up some space, you can download and app for clearing the cache.
That was the first thing I checked, that the apps where installed where they had to. There's nothing installed in my internal. The cache is less than 1MB and it used to be about 4MB. That way I still had those 25MB of free internal memory. It must be something else...
And if I tried that second option, wouldn't the phone be slower if the rom was installed in the SD?
Thank you.
Dj Telo said:
That was the first thing I checked, that the apps where installed where they had to. There's nothing installed in my internal. The cache is less than 1MB and it used to be about 4MB. That way I still had those 25MB of free internal memory. It must be something else...
And if I tried that second option, wouldn't the phone be slower if the rom was installed in the SD?
Thank you.
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The ROM don't go onto the SD, it fits on the nand, they just have a way into tricking the ROM into you having a bigger internal memory. All app's install into a partition on SD card. It's recommend you have a class 4 or better SD card this is just for speed of opening app's etc.
Look up my ROM development page and have a read, if you have the SD card you won't regret it.
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My ROM is gingerburst sense 2.1 by Droidzone.
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I will give it a try.
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Hi
My phone recently received the O2 Froyo update and i have been enjoying it thoroughly. i have installed countless apps on it and as expected i started facing storage issues. I was surprised because i thought now all apps would be installed on SD card. Went in to Manage Apps section and all apps were installed on device RAM taking up any where between 10Kb to 8 Mb per each App.
Also found the transfer to SD card option. Decided to shift all apps to SDCard through this option. This did not solve my problem and its still showing the "phone storage is low alert".
What i noticed was an app that was taking up 8+mb on phone memory before transfer to SD card, only showed 200-300Kb size on SD card... Does this mean that the app is still on phone memory? should i wipe phone/SD card and install everything manually via PC?
Please help, i would like to hold on to the apps that i have on the phone.
Thanks.
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Hi
My phone recently received the O2 Froyo update and i have been enjoying it thoroughly. i have installed countless apps on it and as expected i started facing storage issues. I was surprised because i thought now all apps would be installed on SD card. Went in to Manage Apps section and all apps were installed on device RAM taking up any where between 10Kb to 8 Mb per each App.
Also found the transfer to SD card option. Decided to shift all apps to SDCard through this option. This did not solve my problem and its still showing the "phone storage is low alert".
What i noticed was an app that was taking up 8+mb on phone memory before transfer to SD card, only showed 200-300Kb size on SD card... Does this mean that the app is still on phone memory? should i wipe phone/SD card and install everything manually via PC?
Please help, i would like to hold on to the apps that i have on the phone.
Thanks.
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when using the move to sd function on froyo, its only the apps .apk that is stored on the sd card... all the app data is still stored in the /data/data/ directory in the devices internal storage
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when using the move to sd function on froyo, its only the apps .apk that is stored on the sd card... all the app data is still stored in the /data/data/ directory in the devices internal storage
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So what is the solution?
There is no solution, you could root and flash a rom with apps2sd+
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There is no solution, you could root and flash a rom with apps2sd+
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And you won't gain much more with that than with, for example, ModInstalllocation. I read that one guy reported that with app2sd+ only about 140 MB (of installed apps) went to sd card, while internal memory had been decreased by 120 MB. That's comparable with my results using stock Froyo a2sd + ModInstallLocation.
try deleting app's cache, click each app and delete the cache and then reboot phone.
You will only gain the space reclaimed by moving the dalvik cache to the ext partition.
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So it will not help if i wipe/format and fresh install Apps from the PC? When i googled this some of the results showed i should be installing from PC for proper installation over SD card.
i havent found a solution yet
So any solution to storage issues? Such a shame to have a half empty 16Gb mSD Card installed and be running out of app space...
only solution Ive found is to buy a newer device with more storage space lol. Shame as I really like the Desire.
What will happen if memory gets low, will the phone slow down?
So here's something I've noticed. I'm running Evo Classic v 0.03, but it's happened no matter what ROM I've done it on.
If I restore an app through TIbackup, it installs to the internal memory, but if I download and install the app manually through the market, it will correctly move the app to the SD card like it's supposed to....Is there anyway to have TIbackup place the restored apps on the SD card, or do I always have to restore my apps by hand if I use DTA2SD??
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So here's something I've noticed. I'm running Evo Classic v 0.03, but it's happened no matter what ROM I've done it on.
If I restore an app through TIbackup, it installs to the internal memory, but if I download and install the app manually through the market, it will correctly move the app to the SD card like it's supposed to....Is there anyway to have TIbackup place the restored apps on the SD card, or do I always have to restore my apps by hand if I use DTA2SD??
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I would like to know the answer to that too..I have having to restore all my apps from the market then restore data to those apps with tb..there has got to be a better way
There's an option in TB to select where it should be installed when you restore. But if you're using Darktremor's A2SD, you actually want it on internal memory. You've partitioned off space to be reserved for your data partition, and if you use Android' move to SD function, you're not using it. Instead, you're taking up space on your SD's FAT32 partition, which is now smaller.
It ends up on your SD card either way though. You can even mix up using both if you want. You just don't want to be in the situation where your EXT partition is empty and all of your apps are on the SD through Android's move to SD function.
This is not a solution but my experience with TB and DTa2sd has always been positive. I have never touched the settings on TB as far as where to restore the backups so I assume they are being restored to memory and DTa2sd moves them to the ext partition. I just recently rooted my EVO so I'm no expert but I have flashed a bunch of roms (aosp and sense) with no problem with TB restoring apps.
Hi guys,
I have the Cachemate app and after clearing the cache, it showed my used internal memory at 115mb. I did not install any new apps, but I did app updates from the Market and now it shows my used internal at 123mb. I have also cleared the web browsing history and all text messaging threads I had going. This would also happen on my Nexus One and Hero, so I know it's not just an E4GT issue. After about 3 months of just updating apps (and not installing any new ones) my internal memory would just keep going down and down. I would go into Settings/Applications/Manage Applications and click on every app one by one and clear cache that way, but I could never get my internal memory to back to where it was when I first flashed a ROM and installed my apps initially. On my Hero, it got to the point where i couldn't update my apps anymore because it said i had no more space in memory to do so. Is there a reason why the internal memory keeps going down only from updating apps? Is there anything I can do to stop this, like a directory to manually clear out that is being missed by clearing the cache? Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks.
Did you have it moved to the sd card (USB storage) before and the update installed it on phone memory? Then just move it to USB storage again.
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Did you have it moved to the sd card (USB storage) before and the update installed it on phone memory? Then just move it to USB storage again.
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I move all the apps I can to the SD card. I keep some on the internal memory because i use their widgets and they won't load if the app is on the sd card. When the apps that are stored on the sd card get updated they definitely stay on the SD card but the internal memory still goes down. Same result with the apps that get updated that are stored on the internal memory of the phone. No matter which apps (SD or phone stored) get updated, the internal memory will keep going down until there's none left. I'd understand if the updates were a larger file size then the originals, but they aren't. I also just tried wiping the dalvik cache, but that didn't increase the memory either. It's just weird that I have to re-flash the same ROM every few months just so I can keep updating apps.
Download Memory Booster Lite from the market and check what is using your memory in the task killer. Kill apps you are not using that are autoloading. If they keep loading back up freeze them with something like Titanium pro or bloat freezer.
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...Or Gemini App Manager
Thanks guys, I will definitely try those.
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Hello all. Thanks in advance for any help. I attempted some searches before posting this but didn't come up with much.
I've been using CM7 for quite some time and I quite like it. However, I've started to get some random resets, force closes, and a few other issues. I also feel like I have a lot of unused garbage saved on my memory card and that the phone is generally bogged down and slower than it used to be. Long story short, I'd like to start from scratch, including formatting my 32GB SD card.
As I said, I'm currently on CM7. I'm looking to essentially do a total factory reset and format my SD card. I may go back to Sense until a stable ICS ROM is ready. But I may also go back to CM7. Regardless, my main concern is all these apps I have that were moved to my SD card.
How do I go about saving all of my data while still starting clean? I was thinking I'd back up all app data with MyBackup Pro and save that file on my computer, and then format the SD card. After wiping, flashing a ROM, etc., I'd download MyBackup Pro and upload the data backup back to my phone. Should I also save the .apk files and use them to restore the apps? Would there be any functional advantage in redownloading all the apps individually to ensure a totally clean start? I'm thinking about going the "redownload" route just to force myself to only reinstall the apps I really want/use. If I do that, would restoring data through a batch restore in MyBackup Pro for apps that are no longer installed create any kind of conflict?
If I do save the .apks, when I restore those won't it fill up my internal memory quickly because those apps are not being moved to the SD card automatically? Maybe that's another advantage of downloading each app individually. It would allow me to manually move each app to the SD card so as to keep the used internal memory to a minimum.
I know that was long-winded. Thanks in advance for any advice.
Josh
Get Titanium Backup, backup all your apps to the sd card. They should all be in the Titanium folder on the card, so if you want to format the card too, be sure to copy that to a computer first.
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Get Titanium Backup, backup all your apps to the sd card. They should all be in the Titanium folder on the card, so if you want to format the card too, be sure to copy that to a computer first.
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After formatting copy the titanium backup folder back to your SD card, pop back in phone,reinstall TB,restore apps.
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And in order to wipe the phone, format/wipe everything you can in your recovery before you reflash CM7 and your Kernel. Make sure you don't wipe the titanium backup on your SD card on accident.
Thanks guys.
So Will Ti Backup put all the apps back to the SD card? I tried this once before with MyBackup Pro and my internal memory filled up because it failed to move to the SD Card automatically.
jjbehren said:
Thanks guys.
So Will Ti Backup put all the apps back to the SD card? I tried this once before with MyBackup Pro and my internal memory filled up because it failed to move to the SD Card automatically.
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Depends, if you have dta2sd flashed before restoring then yes, if not you restore apps then move them to sdcard.
Here's the dta2sd thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715938
Flash rom,then gapps if applicable, then kernel if applicable, then dta2sd, Reboot ,download TB, restore apps.
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jjbehren said:
Thanks guys.
So Will Ti Backup put all the apps back to the SD card? I tried this once before with MyBackup Pro and my internal memory filled up because it failed to move to the SD Card automatically.
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Yes, if you set it to do so. In preferences (under restoration settings) there's the option "restore backups to...". You can choose all internal, all external, default (some apps automatically install to SD, most don't), or you can restore each backup to wherever it was when you backed it up.
Having all of your apps (or even a lot of them) stored on the SD card could be causing your lag. Internal memory always beats an SD card when it comes to read/write speeds. There's no need to have 200 mb free on internal storage, it's just wasted space. I don't know how much you actually have free, that was just an example. Definitely keep your important apps and apps that are heavy on resources on internal, it'll keep some of the lag at bay.
After a full wipe, I always only restore the absolutely necessary apps, even though I restore them from TB. If I ever need an app that I didn't initially restore then I'll restore it. It's like having a brand new phone when you do it that way.
If you decide to use TB, you'll need to move the TB preferences file back to your SD card after formatting... or you can just set it up again. The preferences file is on your SD in data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup. Copy the entire folder back to your SD if you don't want to set it up again.
Though it's been covered, I'll do a quick run down.
Do a nandroid backup + any other backup you want.
Copy the contents of your SD card to your computer.
Format your SD card.
Move the files that you need back to your SD card. Rom, kernel, TB folder & preferences folder, nandroid, whatever you want
Assuming you're using Amon Ra, wipe boot, system, data, .android_secure, SD-ext, cache, and dalvik. Since you're starting fresh, I'd wipe them one or two more times.
Flash rom and whatever other files you need.
Restore what you want to restore.
To help with lag, try increasing your VM heap size. You can do so with VM Heap Tool or Rom Toolbox. It'll help more than you'd think.
You can also try the V6 Supercharger script.
Good luck!
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Yeah. I know I have way too much stuff on my phone. I have a ton of apps, mainly games. Damn you Amazon free app of the day! I usually roll with about 100MB or so of free internal memory.
So that being said, would you move the Dalvik-Cache to the SD? I have a 32GB Sandisk Class 4 SD card.
And it really seems you guys steer clear of MyBackUp Pro, huh? I've found it much easier to use than Ti Bu.
Thanks again for the advice.
I'm upgrading my SD card to a 16Gs one from my old 8Gs. Is there anyway I can get all the apps back and working if I move EVERYTHING exactly as it is to the new card? Or is Titanium Backup the only way? And IF Titanium Backup is the only way, I guess there's no use of moving the app folders as Titanium Backup does backup all the app settings and data? Right?
And also, do I need to partition my SD? Because all my apps seem to run fine on SD. Does partitioning make it faster?
Thanks! \m/
Just move it all. It'll be like you never changed SD cards.
You don't need to use Titanium Backup but to answer your question, yes it saves data too.
Partition your SD if you're gonna use Link2SD or A2SD. Apps in your partition can still be used even if you have connected your phone to pc via usb. I put all widgets on my partition so I can still use them even when it's not on my internal memory. No difference in speed of running apps but apps load faster at boot because you don't have to wait for media scanning to start/finish. And more internal memory too.
So 512MB of partition becomes the internal memory? And I do use Link2SD but it moves the apps to the external memory without the partition on my 8GB card. And the apps run just fine. So why do i need the partition for?
Confused.
Copy everythng frm your current card to pc... Isert new card... Remove it n copy back everythng in new card.... Datx it
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Because when you move apps to SD not all files are moved, some of them are still taking space in your internal memory. When an app is linked all of it is moved.
And widgets don't work when you move them to SD so they're stuck in your internal memory taking up space. When it's in your partition it isn't, and widgets still work.
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I use link2SD. So i guess everything is moved to the external. The widgets dont work though. So I guess partitioning is only to move widgets to SD so and apps stored in the partition load up on boot without requiring the media scan. Correct? Are there any other uses?
Even if you moved apps to SD with link2sd unless it's linked all it moves is the apk file. If it's linked dex, lib and apk files are moved.
Read this thread for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
Ive done the upgrade and the apps are working. But my back, menu and lock keys aren't working. What could've gone wrong? :/
Never encountered that before. Did you move any system apps?
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Nope. Anyway, I've installed Hybrid 2.1 now. Keys are back to normal. Thanks for all your help. And by the way, I've to go the Titanium way because I had to factory reset my phone. And I have the Nandroid backup too. So if I reinstall from my Nandroid backup, will the key problem come back again? Because that was taken when I had the problem.
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Nope. Anyway, I've installed Hybrid 2.1 now. Keys are back to normal. Thanks for all your help. And by the way, I've to go the Titanium way because I had to factory reset my phone. And I have the Nandroid backup too. So if I reinstall from my Nandroid backup, will the key problem come back again? Because that was taken when I had the problem.
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May be yeah.... Bcoz nandroid backup restores d exact state ua phone was in wen yu took backup...
Dont be too shy.. Jus hit thanks
Turns out I'd messed up with the qwerty.kl system file.
Thanks for the help.