[Q] Is it safe to S-ON again - Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is it safe to S-ON after S-OFF with AlphaRev X Beta for warantty purposes?

Of course. Many have tested the process already,

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How do I know if I have ENG or Radio S-Off??

I have to be honest, I followed a fairly technical guide to root my DHD and although I got the gist of it, I'm not sure if it left me with just ENG S-Off or Radio S-Off as well.
Is there a way to check for both?
Cheers.
You can check in bootloader it will say if you are eng off or not and if your cid is 1111111111 your radio s off too
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
- hold power button and select reboot then ok
- after hitting ok, wait 1 sec then press and hold power + vol down
- the phone will enter bootloader mode
at the very 1st line it should say ENG S-OFF
for RADIO S-OFF
- press vol down until you get more info
- if you see CID11111 that means you have RADIO S-OFF
else you don't
Excellent, thanks very much to both of you..........
Mine says
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT.0.85.0007
....
...
...
...
..
What does that mean?
What s-off do I have?
Defectus said:
Mine says
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT.0.85.0007
....
...
...
...
..
What does that mean?
What s-off do I have?
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That is only radio s-off.i believe
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Defectus said:
Mine says
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT.0.85.0007
....
...
...
...
..
What does that mean?
What s-off do I have?
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Indeed that is radio s-off.
Hboot s-off looks like "ACE PVT ENG S-OFF"
The ENG stands for engineering.
Thanks guys. It's a bit confusing.
I'm gonna flash a new radio today. Do I only need radio s-off or do i need eng -s-off too?
If so, i guess you can apply it after you've radio s-off'ed?
Edit: So now I used the s-off easy one click tool.
Now I have ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
Do I still have the radio s-off?
As joliko stated you can have both. How does that work anyway?
Once you've entered the bootloader (Volume down + power on) if it says eng s-off you obviously have eng s-off you then select system info or something like that and it says the CID:xxxx. For example my phone which is now radio locked due to loading LeeDroid 1.3 based on the latest 1.72.405.3 ROM and not realising I needed to run Radio s-off says CID-VODAP021. What you want is CID:1111111 (not sure how many 1's but you get the idea). My advice after reading many pages it make absolutely sure you have radio s-off before running any updates or flashing any ROMs period. It is also highly reccomended to have eng s-off and also super user access (root access). From what I have read Radio s-off is a higher or more superior access to eng s-off. Having Radio s-off (otherwise known as Super CID) enables you to unlock any simlock and also load the latest HTC 1.72.405.3 ROM without loosing any root access or s-off.
Yoshi_523 said:
Once you've entered the bootloader (Volume down + power on) if it says eng s-off you obviously have eng s-off you then select system info or something like that and it says the CID:xxxx. For example my phone which is now radio locked due to loading LeeDroid 1.3 based on the latest 1.72.405.3 ROM and not realising I needed to run Radio s-off says CID-VODAP021. What you want is CID:1111111 (not sure how many 1's but you get the idea). My advice after reading many pages it make absolutely sure you have radio s-off before running any updates or flashing any ROMs period. It is also highly reccomended to have eng s-off and also super user access (root access). From what I have read Radio s-off is a higher or more superior access to eng s-off. Having Radio s-off (otherwise known as Super CID) enables you to unlock any simlock and also load the latest HTC 1.72.405.3 ROM without loosing any root access or s-off.
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actually you have more options with eng-s off as you can use fastboot commands. were if you just only had radio-s off you can't use fastboot but your right in the fact that you won't lose s-off were eng s-off is just the hboot been patched an so flashing new firmware with upgraded hboot you will lose the sercurity been off.
how do i know if I am ENG or Radio S-OFF
BOOTLOADER says:
VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.09.0000
RADIO - 3805.04.03.22_M
eMMC-boot
what does that mean?
I am planning to change my radio to be compatible with ARHD 1.1.2
radio s-off but no eng hboot
Sent out of my Free Candy Van.
Before, after I had used Easy Eng S-Off Tool, I had Ship S-Off. After that I found out I can't flash splash img using fast boot, I ran the tool again and I had now Eng S-Off.
But in the system info, the CID is not 111111.
Does that means I had lost my Radio S-Off?
I'm now on CyanogenMod7 RC-1 with Eng S-Off.
I just now tried this One click Radio S-OFF (windows recognized well my DHD in Device Manager), but it said "Unknown Error, probably connections" (usb cable works fine).
Edit: I restored the backed-up rooted 1.32 and do Radio S-Off. Things ran smooth. Now I have both Eng S-Off and CID 11111.
And by doing so I realized how big Sense Roms are. Clean backed-up rooted Sense 1.32 = 525MB. TB Fusion 3d (Sense 2.1 + 3.0) with some apps (not big): 765 MB. Clean MIUI 1.7.5 = 232 MB. CM7 RC1 with many apps = 457 MB.

[Q] Revert to stock

My Desire HD got a problem with the casing, the battery-lit will not fit properly. I need to send it back to HTC for repair but my device is rooted. Customer support have told me I have to pay for this repair because rooted devices don't have warranty. I have rooted my device myself but forgot what method I used, here some info from bootloader:
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85.2007 9PD9810000)
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.06.04.14_M
eMMC-BOOT
Oct 11 2010, 12:44:14
1. How can I fully revert to stock without leaving any traces?
2. I have flashed another radio, will flashing a RUU rom change this back to stock?
3.Does a RUU rom change ENG S-OFF to ENG S-ON?
Thanks for your help!
1. I personally would use any one of the methods mentioned in any one of the MANY MANY threads already about this matter in the dev section. See my link in signature.
2. A stock RUU ahould do yes but don't hold me to that.
3. Unsure but see #1.
Did try a search, but no results on ENG S-OFF or ENG S-ON. Your link doesn't explain anything. So please help and post some relevant links to these so called MANY MANY threads.
Ok, I did a search for "Revert to stock" and the following thread came up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403&highlight=Revert+stock
Talks about ENG S-OFF and reverting to stock.

[Q] Vision PVT s-off with Hboot 0.85.0013

Hi I was one of those unfortunate people that had rooted my phone before the 1.72 update for my t-mobile / htc desire z
Going into hboot it says it has the aforementioned hboot, s-off.
Radio version is 26.10.04.03_M
Is this version still able to get su rights by flashing it with an earlier rom? Do I have to bypass certain steps from the guide here ?
Or do I have a higher brick risk? Phone is running ok but I would like to experiment with my phone a little bit. Later this year my contract ends anyway...

[Q] downgrade hboot 1.03

hi
i have htc desire upgraded by mistake to hboot 1.03
after that i unlocked it using official htc bootloader unlock.
afterwards i ran unrevoked with custom recovery rom
and installed oxygen 2.3.2
current atatus
hboot
*** UNLOCKED ***
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-1.03.0003
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
Dec 21 2011,20:44:09
can i downgrade hboot
can i do s off?
thanks a lot
with goldcard flash RUU and start rooting process again...
thanks for the help but unfortunately it does not work :-(
by saying goldcard rru flash, you mean to create an goldcard
and with the card inside, to install the official rru.
i tried rru 1.12 and 2.29 and they failed :-(
any ideas?
Read the Thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794314 carefully and also the alpharev website http://alpharev.nl/. Hopefully u will get the answer.
twisted_forever said:
Read the Thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794314 carefully and also the alpharev website http://alpharev.nl/. Hopefully u will get the answer.
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No he won't. Alpharev or revolutionary don't support the new hboots, so you can't S-OFF, as far as I know there still isn't a way to downgrade, and you can't flash an older RUU since it won't let you. It was a stupid mistake of even using it in the first place.
so, there is no hope for me :-(

[Q] How to have S-off without ROMs?

PHP:
*** UNLOCKED ***
PRIMOU PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.18.0000
RADIO-3831.19.00.120
eMMC-boot
When I've flashed some ROMs to my One V earlier, they've been usually successful. On the other hand no ROMs have booted due to my phone has never had S-off, and no way I've found to have S-off my phone.
So, do you have some scripts, batches, or anything to have S-off of my phone without ROMs?:angel:
u cannot s-off one v yet... but u don't require that to root or run roms..
Sent from my One V

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