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I got my Desire from a regular shop, but i recently discovered it's branded (though simlock free). Usually branded phones are only distributed by the providers, that's why i assumed mine was unbranded since i got it separate without a subscription.
I already upgraded to Froyo and i'm now on version 2.10.161.2 and i'm wondering if it's possible to debrand my Desire with a goldcard to stock ROM RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe and after that upgrade to generic Froyo through OTA.
Also when you have debranded your Desire do you have to use the goldcard everytime there is a new OTA available?
I don't think you'll be able to debrand using that RUU, it'll refuse to install because it has a lower HBOOT version than the one installed on your phone. You could try using a Froyo RUU to debrand, e.g. RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
I think that you do have to use the goldcard for every OTA update after debranding, but I'm not sure.
You can use my downgrade tool to debrand (which installs 1.21.405.2), or the latest froyo RUU.
And yes, goldcard is essential for all official updates on a phone that was originally branded.
Ok i have HBOOT-0.93.0001 don't know if that works when i try it with RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.0 0.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe?
It really blows though that you have to use the goldcard for each official update.
I'm now thinking of returning my Desire and demanding an unbranded one.
My Desire is also branded (which i didn't know when i was buying it) and after complaining to the seller he replied: why what's the difference? Works with any sim! Well, there is a huge difference for many well known reasons (ie branded software have logos here and there, OTA updates delay, after debranding needs goldcard etc). That's why branded phones are being sold cheaper on ebay.
Yes i would expect that happening on Ebay, but not in retail stores and not even cheaper but full price. Since in retail stores HTC is the one delivering those devices to the retail stores, so HTC is deliberately selling branded phones (they first made them simlock free though before shipping them)
So if i would have Orange as provider with my Vodafone branded Desire and Vodafone decides to put in their 360 crap again i would have that Vodafone crap on my Desire even though i don't have Vodafone as my provider.
HTC doesn't sell branded phones to be sold unbranded. If you buy a genuine sim free unlocked phone and not from a network, it will be unbranded.
Same story with me , and i successfully debrand 3 uk to generic , use gold card and search thread in rom section for downgrade tool which support new and old desire ..
Then ota upgrade to generic froyo
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Also when you have debranded your Desire do you have to use the goldcard everytime there is a new OTA available?
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YES ONE TIME GOLD CARD REQUIRED AFTER UPDATE USE ANY CARD
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teppic74 said:
HTC doesn't sell branded phones to be sold unbranded. If you buy a genuine sim free unlocked phone and not from a network, it will be unbranded.
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Sadly this is not true.. they do sell branded phones as unbranded. I bought mine genuine sim free unlocked and not from a network and it IS branded..
@newstar
Are you confirming that you need to use that goldcard with every OTA update after you debranded your Desire? Or are you saying that you only need to use it one time to debrand?
How would HTC know it was originally branded when receiving a new OTA update (by chance through IMEI or S/N)?
Sinergie said:
Sadly this is not true.. they do sell branded phones as unbranded. I bought mine genuine sim free unlocked and not from a network and it IS branded..
@newstar
Are you confirming that you need to use that goldcard with every OTA update after you debranded your Desire? Or are you saying that you only need to use it one time to debrand?
How would HTC know it was originally branded when receiving a new OTA update (by chance through IMEI or S/N)?
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You need to use the goldcard with every OTA update or else you are going to have random restarts, not working wifi and sd card slot.
So the OP knows, you have a Vodafone Desire, the x.xx.161.x denotes a Vodafone product code...If you use a gold card and the 2.10.405.2 RUU it will update to the same ROM (Vodafone removed all branding from it) but you'll be on the generic product code
You'd still need your gold card for all future updates as well, mind
The only thing i still don't get is why would you need the gold card for future updates when you're on the generic product code. You would think it's then the same as the ones that were originally unbranded.
Because the phones CID will still be the branded one, so the gold card is still needed to trick the updates
Ah ok and i guess you can't change the CID so that it is exactly like an unbranded Desire.
Hello guys. Is there a method to check a phone's original branding? I got my Desire here in Hungary but the ROM that was originally installed didn't have Hungarian language, only German and English so I suspect it is some grey import from Germany or I don't know.
I've rooted it, now i want to unroot it for warranty reasons, but can't install the stock WWE ROM because of customer ID error. This means it's not unbranded (or at least not WWE), but i bought it unbranded. So can I check somehow the phone's original branding? (from IMEI, S/N or I don't know)
The number next to the camera is HTW-EU-xxxxxx so I think it's definetly european.
Have you tried to flash the WWE rom with a Goldcard?
If not, do a search and create a goldcard and try reflashing the rom.
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Thanks, that's a good idea. But it would be good if I can prove somehow that the phone was branded or not an original WWE for the shop where I bought it. Or it's too late now to check what was the original branding?
Im not too sure about that.
You may have to get in touch with HTC with the details.
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He says he needs to unroot, though, so there is no need to try to flash a WWE ROM with goldcard.
As far as I am aware you cannot find out on which carrier you are branded.
The only idea that I can think of is to start flashing branded roms from shipped-roms and the one that doesn't give you a CID error is yours.
But the goldcard should eliminate any CID issues.
Flashing the WWE RUU will leave the phone unrooted....
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Meanwhile in this thread I find an answer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831734&highlight=gold+card
Running fastboot oem gencheckpt gives the original Customer ID.
For me it's VODAP102 which is androidboot.carrier=VODA-Germany.
Great, got a branded HTC as an unbranded, time to go in the shop and have a nice chat with them.
Anyone knows if there is a stock RUU available for a german VODA branded phone?
Yes, it will be unrooted but not on the stock original ROM, since he's branded obviously, I meant.
Chapell said:
Meanwhile in this thread I find an answer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831734&highlight=gold+card
Running fastboot oem gencheckpt gives the original Customer ID.
For me it's VODAP102 which is androidboot.carrier=VODA-Germany.
Great, got a branded HTC as an unbranded, time to go in the shop and have a nice chat with them.
Anyone knows if there is a stock RUU available for a german VODA branded phone?
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Unfortunately there isn't one at shipped roms, only a french eclair and 2 UK, one of which is froyo.
But if they sold it to you, as you said for unbranded you should talk to them about that.
Thanks for both of you, i'll try to flash the WWE ROM with a gold card. Not the original branded but better than a rooted ROM And I'll go in the shop and ask why I have a branded german phone...
Hello people.
An android newbie here. I have beem doing quite a bit of reading on this forum, but this is my first time posting. I have looked around all over the place and I have reached a point where I am confused of how to go about the task I am wanting to accomplish. Here goes:
I bought a desire HD on vodafone last week, it had 1.75.161.2 firmware on it. I stumbled across these forums and decided to flash a custom ROM (Leedroid). I was successful a this task, but now i have a charging problem with my phone. If i understand correctly, my warranty is void with a custom ROM, so I would like to know how i could get back to my stock Vodafone ROM (1.75.161.2), also with the branded vodafone logo that used to appear before i flashed to custom ROM.
Again, sorry if there is stuff about this posted elsewhere, I have been reading, but i am really confused.
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards
You have to run a RUU if you want to return to stock.
I don't have any links to official RUUs atm, but check the threads in the android developement section. There should be one with vodafone branding
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Flussen said:
You have to run a RUU if you want to return to stock.
I don't have any links to official RUUs atm, but check the threads in the android developement section. There should be one with vodafone branding
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Thanks for your reply.
I have installed a Vodafone branded RUU, I have also found a Vodafone backup which I have tried. I get the branding back, but I cannot get any updates OTA. I'm now on 1.39.161.1. There clearly is a 1.75 update on Vodafone, I used to be on it and my friends are on it.
Any help for me to receive these OTA updates?
Regards
I think 1.75 was pulled by HTC at the same time as the 1.72 update, due to some major bugs.
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nickhammond121 said:
I think 1.75 was pulled by HTC at the same time as the 1.72 update, due to some major bugs.
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Vodafone website states 1.75 is the latest. Last week I had 1.75 I don't think 1.75 was pulled. 1.72 was definitely pulled.
http://help.vodafone.co.uk/system/selfservice.controller?CMD=VIEW_ARTICLE&ARTICLE_ID=3818083&PARTITION_ID=1&CONFIGURATION=1058&CURRENT_CMD=BROWSE_TOPIC&PAGE_TITLE=Article%20Details
Anothe DHD noob question here. I bought a DHD off eBay and I know it is locked to Vodafone, but I'm not sure if it's branded. If I don't get the Vodafone logo when I switch it on does that mean it's not branded?
Check the firmwareversion. If it's like 1.32.405.3 it's unbranded. The important part is .405. That means that it's unbranded.
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It's 1.72.405.3
So it's unbranded but I need to downgrade in order to root and S-OFF etc?
Yes, you need to downgrade it to 1.32. But you don't need to create a gold card
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Hi, I've the same problem, I need to get back to voda 1.75
First of all, did you used hboot S-OFF or radio S-OFF ?? Because if you used hboot you won't be able to recover the original boot to S-ON and your phone will be out of warranty regardless of the ROM it has installed.
As I understand it, if you've flashed the 1.39 branded RUU back to the phone that should've give you the stock vodafone recovery wich is what is needed in order to get Voda Branded OTA updates, am I right?
So I don't get why aren't you receiving the 1.75 OTA, do you have superCID?
Anyone knows if there is a 1.75 Voda RUU available somewhere to flash manually?
dadon123 said:
Thanks for your reply.
I have installed a Vodafone branded RUU, I have also found a Vodafone backup which I have tried. I get the branding back, but I cannot get any updates OTA. I'm now on 1.39.161.1. There clearly is a 1.75 update on Vodafone, I used to be on it and my friends are on it.
Any help for me to receive these OTA updates?
Regards
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Hi, I've the same problem, I need to get back to voda 1.75
First of all, did you used hboot S-OFF or radio S-OFF ?? Because if you used hboot you won't be able to recover the original boot to S-ON and your phone will be out of warranty regardless of the ROM it has installed.
As I understand it, if you've flashed the 1.39 branded RUU back to the phone that should've give you the stock vodafone recovery wich is what is needed in order to get Voda Branded OTA updates, am I right?
So I don't get why aren't you receiving the 1.75 OTA, do you have superCID?
Anyone knows if there is a 1.75 Voda RUU available somewhere to flash manually?
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Hi.
Looks like we're stuck in the same boat! I have reflashed the original radio and the original hboot. Also put my cid to stock (VODAP001), and turned radio s-on. Reflashed clockworkmod recovery to original stock recovery, got the phone back to 100% the way it was when I took it out of the box, yet still I cannot get the OTA update to 1.75.161.2
I'm on 1.39.161.1, stock Vodafone UK firmware. I followed a guide off another forum (german forum) nd thanks to Google translator I managed to follow the steps. But still stuck at the OTA issue.
yep, so it seems.
Could you post the link to that thread on the german forum?
Thanks
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Hi.
Looks like we're stuck in the same boat! I have reflashed the original radio and the original hboot. Also put my cid to stock (VODAP001), and turned radio s-on. Reflashed clockworkmod recovery to original stock recovery, got the phone back to 100% the way it was when I took it out of the box, yet still I cannot get the OTA update to 1.75.161.2
I'm on 1.39.161.1, stock Vodafone UK firmware. I followed a guide off another forum (german forum) nd thanks to Google translator I managed to follow the steps. But still stuck at the OTA issue.
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http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/htc_desire_hd_forum/190019-htc_desire_hd_originalzustand_auslieferungszustand_wiederherstellen.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3D1.75.161.2%2Bvodafone%2Buk%2Bruu%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1B3GGLL_en-GBGB379GB379%26prmd%3Divnsfd&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&usg=ALkJrhhBi3KYTytikXPK9TRzc9bFaCDKaA
There you go. Its the second set of instructions which i followed Have a gander.
Hi guys,
Sorry to dig this one up but I've hit a bit of a snag with my phone and could do with some assistance.
I got the phone originally with a Vodafone ROM and decided to debrand it to a plain HTC ROM - 1.72 using a de-brand pack I got from Fonefunshop. It appears that based on the fact the phone still has a Vodafone serial number but a HTC ROM I cannot receive OTA updates (I want Gingerbread ) then I need to revert back to stock. Ironically Vodafone released 2.3 earlier than HTC which was annoying to say the least.
I've been hunting round for the stock Vodafone RUU for 1.36 but I don't know if I can downgrade for starters, nor can I find any Vodafone RUU files anywhere including on here nor on Stock-ROM's.
Can anyone give me some help with this?
When I bought my phone from Vodafone on contract in November it came unbranded and unlocked. Nothing to do with Vodafone at all, apart from the CID. So if you just flash back to the stock 1.32 ROM and change the CID to the Vodafone one which I think is VODA_0001 (Dont quote me on that, its off the top of my head but there is a thread here somewhere that has it in), then make your phone S-on to get the updates.
That way you will be completely stock.
I'm in the same boat too
Flashed the non-branded software when I got the phone last year. Now I can't get the OTA update to 2.3.
Does anyone have a link the the stock 1.32 ROM and also a guide on how to change the CID and to make the phone S-on to get the updates?
Thanks
Lee
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dadon123 said:
Thanks for your reply.
I have installed a Vodafone branded RUU, I have also found a Vodafone backup which I have tried. I get the branding back, but I cannot get any updates OTA. I'm now on 1.39.161.1. There clearly is a 1.75 update on Vodafone, I used to be on it and my friends are on it.
Any help for me to receive these OTA updates?
Regards
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Please can you tell me where you found the Vodafone branded RUU. I really need it and haven't been able to find it anywhere.Thanks
Hi everyone,
I'm going to send my Desire HD to HTC to repair it.
I got a few question though:
I guess I need to flash device with their original rom and turn on the ENG and Radio, right?
Also the CID I probably need to restore it back.
My phone was originally branded with German Vodaphone, but I imported to Belgium.
Can I just flash WWE ROM and change the CID to the unbranded HTC Desire HD or do you recommend to change the CID to German Vodaphone and restore it with the original German Vodaphone rom with their bloatware?
I hope someone can help me
I'd suggest just returning to a WWE RUU. I'm guessing by checking your IMEI HTC can tell what your firmware was before.
I sent mine back with MIUI on it and they "repaired it" and flashed it back to 1.32 WWE.
Yes from what I heard HTC can check via IMEI what your FW should be.
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Yes from what I heard HTC can check via IMEI what your FW should be.
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OMG, I don't want Vodaphone Stuff Let's hope new Firmware is rootable
Thanks for your replies
Hi.
I see that shipped-roms.com is shut down. is there an alternative site that i can get these original RUU's? I'm looking for Orange UK Bravo. I would say any UK one would do though.
Thanks.
orange didn't release any RUU's so no luck there. You'd need a goldcard and then use a WWE RUU
what about an alternative site to get O2, Vodafone, 3, or T-Mobile?
sprocket28 said:
what about an alternative site to get O2, Vodafone, 3, or T-Mobile?
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u need the correct ruu..not one of any carrier!!!
is ur phone branded? what is ur operator?
if u cant find the one of ur operator, u must use the wwe one with a goldcard
if ur phone is not branded, u must use the wwe (world wide english) one
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u need the correct ruu..not one of any carrier!!!
is ur phone branded? what is ur operator?
if u cant find the one of ur operator, u must use the wwe one with a goldcard
if ur phone is not branded, u must use the wwe (world wide english) one
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oh i see.
yes my phone is branded to orange uk. my operator is o2 ireland. i bought it from england, unlocked it, rooted it and put my irish sim into it.
so should i have made a goldcard before i rooted it?
sorry, first time ive had to unroot and dont know anything about it.
are there any good guides available on how to do this? ive been searching google and youtube but can only find how to make a goldcard.
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I would like to mention that i am not unrooting my phone to send it to Orange UK to be fixed or anything. I am unrooting it because i am selling it and the buyer doesnt want it rooted. In that case, can i use any carrier's original RUU?
make a goldcard
then flash this http://www.filefactory.com/file/b4a...9.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe
bortak said:
make a goldcard
then flash this http://www.filefactory.com/file/b4a...9.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe
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thanks mate. ill try that.
sprocket28 said:
thanks mate. ill try that.
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there's a thank button ya know
What do you need an RUU for?
Y'all know HTC support warranty on the 2.3.3 GB release? Which is unbranded. This means you can flash this (if you don't get a CID error - for most of Europe) then it is warranty returnable without the need of a goldcard.
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What do you need an RUU for?
Y'all know HTC support warranty on the 2.3.3 GB release? Which is unbranded. This means you can flash this (if you don't get a CID error - for most of Europe) then it is warranty returnable without the need of a goldcard.
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except the 2.3.3 comes with a bunch of bugs, and I've seen too many cases of people updating it and then the phone being stuck on the HTC logo... personally, I don't see the point of risking it.
what does it matter if its going for warranty repair whether it boots or not?
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I would like to mention that i am not unrooting my phone to send it to Orange UK to be fixed or anything. I am unrooting it because i am selling it and the buyer doesnt want it rooted. In that case, can i use any carrier's original RUU?
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rootSU said:
what does it matter if its going for warranty repair whether it boots or not?
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that's what matters, because it's not
haha Fair play, I missed that. But I did say for warranty return
Finally got my phone unrooted after having some errors. Thanks for everyones help.
Hey! I have the same problem as well
I have been spending alot of time in finding my asia rom,
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_hTC_Asia_WWE_2.13.707.1_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_143921_signed.exe
I had already scanned the four corners of the globe but still no rom, can someone upload the rom please!!!
They don't all exist
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