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Kingxklick?

Okay, I've been browsing xda since having a tmobile g1, and while I appreciate everything the developers do to advance things, im kind of annoyed with kingxclick or whatever name he goes by. It just seems to me he appears in various forums and takes existing roms, modifies them very slightly, and claims them as his own. He did that on the g1 forum and here he is on the evo forum doing the same. Has he contributed anything original, or is he just the hack I think he is?
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What the flubber nuggets are you talking about?
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He did do one original thing in his old kernels here before he got banned:
He fixed a typo in a comment in some source code. The worst part? I'm not joking.

DDiaz007 said:
What the flubber nuggets are you talking about?
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He's complaining about a developer he believes takes someone's rom [say mikfroyo for example] makes a few base changes, and then says its his rom.

drmacinyasha said:
He did do one original thing in his old kernels here before he got banned:
He fixed a typo in a comment in some source code. The worst part? I'm not joking.
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That's what I figured. The sad thing is that he pops up on the evo forum and nobody knows what he's up to. If he is providing fixes and developing his own roms, that would be one thing, but if he's just taking various rom fixes and implementing them in "king's evo! 8.73!" or whatever other flashy named rom, he is a disgrace to true developers and he should just be banned again.
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Well I'm not sure I mean according to some all I do is swap out some PNG files and then call it my own. I will say this when I used my own base everyone wanted me to use Calkulins.

Well, considering his site isn't even active anymore (404's on the whole site), I don't think we'll be seeing much of him.

I find this post a little amusing. I remember when he was making kernels. I followed very closely, was excited about the next new King Kernel! Almost donated to him!. GE was asking for donations because he didn't even OWN an EVO!. And still made good kernels!
...then one day he posts on his twitter that he finally got his!.... Vibrant?. I questioned this move on his kernel forum and stated this seemed like a 2 faced move. Asking for donations to buy an evolution to better develop his kernels, only.to buy something else.
I was chastised for questioning the great king on his thread! And he even commented saying "geez, lighten up, I'm still saving for an evo. They are sold out here is all". I stopped visiting that thread and stopped using his kernels. I felt that was a really low move and was amazed so many people followed him after that.

phajen said:
Well, considering his site isn't even active anymore (404's on the whole site), I don't think we'll be seeing much of him.
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I guess I just figured that was him on the evo android development forum with "kings super ultra froyo!" and "kings gb amazing cool rom!" or whatever theyre called a page or two into the forum
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lol I am lost.. king is no different from any other "chef".

They see me trollin' they hatin'
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dirkyd3rk said:
They see me trollin' they hatin'
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So this is what the site has become, users like this should be warned then band.

zone23 said:
So this is what the site has become, users like this should be warned then band.
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:rolls eyes: you a troll for commenting and it was a joke why don't you lighten up, this thread is just asking to be flamed.
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00_MACKIE_00 said:
lol I am lost.. king is no different from any other "chef".
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99% of ROM makers do the exact same thing as him... They are just taking pieces others developed and putting them together. Most of the ROM makers/chefs couldn't code their way out of a box.

dirkyd3rk said:
:rolls eyes: you a troll for commenting and it was a joke why don't you lighten up, this thread is just asking to be flamed.
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Actually if you look at this thread its easy to see who the troll is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=767813
I didn't get your "joke". If you would have just said "this thread is just asking to be flamed" then maybe I would not have posted my previous comment. I guess I get it now.

zone23 said:
Actually if you look at this thread its easy to see who the troll is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=767813
I didn't get your "joke". If you would have just said "this thread is just asking to be flamed" then maybe I would not have posted my previous comment. I guess I get it now.
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Ohhh you have a rom, cool story bro. And I care because? you didn't have to respond to my comment next time keep your opinion to yourself or troll your rom thread.

dirkyd3rk said:
Ohhh you have a rom, cool story bro. And I care because? you didn't have to respond to my comment next time keep your opinion to yourself or troll your rom thread and take that manpon out.
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How about I don't give a **** about what you think. Leave your useless comments out of the threads.

zone23 said:
How about I don't give a **** about what you think. Leave your useless comments out of the threads.
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cool story bro...again

dirkyd3rk said:
cool story bro...again
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So glad the forums are full of cool people like you. Cool story? You bet..

zone23 said:
So glad the forums are full of cool people like you. Cool story? You bet..
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I'd be pissed as well if my rom was 30 pages deep and had 100 users I feel your pain. Lol its ok zone I hear your frustration but you'll be ok dude.

Calkulin is not a recognized developer??!?

I had not paid attention before today, but I noticed that Calkulin is not a recognized developer! I looked up what is required and he seems to fit the bill.
Maybe he has not filled out an application. I think in his case the moderators should upgrade him to Recognized Developer with or without an application. When I first purchased this phone and was trying to decide on which rom to start with, it became obvious that he was recognized even without the title. I saw more than one person posted that they bought this phone because they saw him developing for it. He is very involved with every leak or upgrade. His interaction with everyone is exemplary. His work provides a good base for other developers working with our phone.
Either way, Thanks Calk for all of your hard work. A lot of us appreciate it.
Edit: Thanks for thanking me, but I haven't developed anything. Go find something of Calk's that you have not thanked him for and thank him. He is the one that deserves it! And remember to thank the other developers and people that help.

I assume that maybe he doesn't want to have that status. He is most definitely a Dev though. I've used his ROM's since the Windows mobile days.... Very smart man =)

That should tell you something about xda... if you can't pick up on the clue.
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driftinganomaly said:
I had not paid attention before today, but I noticed that Calkulin is not a recognized developer! I looked up what is required and he seems to fit the bill.
Maybe he has not filled out an application. I think in his case the moderators should upgrade him to Recognized Developer with or without an application. When I first purchased this phone and was trying to decide on which rom to start with, it became obvious that he was recognized even without the title. I saw more than one person posted that they bought this phone because they saw him developing for it. He is very involved with every leak or upgrade. His interaction with everyone is exemplary. His work provides a good base for other developers working with our phone.
Either way, Thanks Calk for all of your hard work. A lot of us appreciate it.
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I totally agree on this one... before cm9 came his from is the only thing I would run as a dd.... I would play with others but always end up back at calk!
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Febby said:
I assume that maybe he doesn't want to have that status. He is most definitely a Dev though. I've used his ROM's since the Windows mobile days.... Very smart man =)
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Yep flashed many of his roms on win mo back in the day from ppcgeeks. Calk is the man!

kthejoker20 said:
That should tell you something about xda... if you can't pick up on the clue.
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Hint: If you're desperate for such a title, you don't deserve it.
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Hint: If you're desperate for such a title, you don't deserve it.
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Sort of like the President. I have never seen anyone with that title who deserved it either.... Lol
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lol who said he was desperate, he hasnt posted in this thread

tensux said:
lol who said he was desperate, he hasnt in this thread
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I think that everyone agrees with you. He is too busy developing to care if he has a title on this site. It hasn't and won't keep him from developing. I have seen a number of recognized developers around the forums and thought that he deserved it. In the OP I said that he maybe hadn't filled out an application, and he probably has not and doesn't care.
I was just posting because I thought he deserved the sign of respect.

driftinganomaly said:
In the OP I said that he maybe hadn't filled out an application, and he probably has not and doesn't care.
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I'm quite sure this is the deal.
He'd been developing for the OG EVO for a long time here on XDA as well. He knows he's a great Dev, the community knows he's a great Dev, and that's really all that matters. He obviously doesn't care about titles and I respect him for that.

I always wondered about those. Seems like a lot of well know themers\devs do not have recegnized developer or themer. I would love to know how they choose.

There is only one benifit to having that title. Being able to lock and close your own threads. That's it. Other than that its just words. Everyone knows Calk is extremely talented and that's all that really matters. So I don't blame him for not worring about it. I have seen many with that title and Calk deserves it way more then they did. But ah well. If he ever wants it just has to fill out the form.

Who is Calkulin and what does he do?
PS: he saved my Samsung Moment from flying into a brick wall at 50 MPH.

azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Hint: If you're desperate for such a title, you don't deserve it.
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Well said
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tensux said:
lol who said he was desperate, he hasnt posted in this thread
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I don't think anyone mentioned him being the desperate. I think that "Hint: If you're desperate for such a title, you don't deserve it. " was meant in general to others who just want to release kanged ROM's and claim all work or demand the dev status right away.

Febby said:
I don't think anyone mentioned him being the desperate. I think that "Hint: If you're desperate for such a title, you don't deserve it. " was meant in general to others who just want to release kanged ROM's and claim all work or demand the dev status right away.
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You mean that's frowned upon
Ughh... Back to the drawing board
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phatmanxxl said:
Who is Calkulin and what does he do?
PS: he saved my Samsung Moment from flying into a brick wall at 50 MPH.
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Agreed. That was my first experience with his work and then I used his work on my brother's Evo. Now I use it on this once again. I can' ask for a more dedicated developer. Glad he picked this phone up to dev on.

This is the first time I have used any of his work. He never did anything on my previous phone. But still, from what I've seen he seem like a really cool cat. Respected and rightfully so and never harsh to answer a question. I think it would be nice for him to have the title so he could have more control over his threads and such. But he doesn't need it to get mine or many others respect.

scarmon25 said:
This is the first time I have used any of his work. He never did anything on my previous phone. But still, from what I've seen he seem like a really cool cat. Respected and rightfully so and never harsh to answer a question. I think it would be nice for him to have the title so he could have more control over his threads and such. But he doesn't need it to get mine or many others respect.
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+1 to the comment he doesn't need a title to have my respect.
Calkulin's ROMs were my first experience with anything other than stock rooted. I like his work and think this community would miss him tremendously if he left.

I have run Calkulin's roms on, I believe, 5 devices going back several years. I also used his kitchen to cook my own Windows Mobile roms back in the day.
The man is a legend.

ViperINC Gone....

Anyone else a bit bummed over nit's decision to pull the ROM, at virtuous team's request. Sucks and understandable though... Sad part was about to give it a try, as I'm done waiting for an official ICS release for the Dinc2 and wanted to move on from GingerBangSense "M".... If only I had checked a few mins earlier....
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Yeah.. I honestly don't understand why they would publicly release it if nobody can use it in their roms
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Why would they request it to be taken down? And why not do so when it was being beta tested?!? Sounds like a lot of wasted time and effort for that team. do they have a competing ROM that's just not as good?
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msolaw said:
Why would they request it to be taken down? And why not do so when it was being beta tested?!? Sounds like a lot of wasted time and effort for that team. do they have a competing ROM that's just not as good?
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Yeah I mean... what's the point of not letting devs use the m10 tools? Virtuous doesn't get money if people use their rom, unless people donate.. I mean... it's just really nonsensical to me.

Very disappointed. Was truly a fantastic ROM.
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Hell I don't even run sense roms (except UKB cuz its the truth :thumbup: ) and this is crazy, if there's no financial gain at stake, why not let you use their tools I haven't seen virtuous release anything for our phone in a while. Idk just think its wrong and it sux for all the work you and your team have done
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Yeah I dont care if I piss them off or not but I just sent them a "nice" email expressing my feelings about all this. Bunch of Indian givers if u ask me.
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eriknors said:
Yeah I dont care if I piss them off or not but I just sent them a "nice" email expressing my feelings about all this. Bunch of Indian givers if u ask me.
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Be careful.... you might offend litetaker xD

I'm already dealing with an NHL lockout, now a ROM lockout too?
Lol
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nitsua98 said:
Be careful.... you might offend litetaker xD
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And why would I care if I did???
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Ya I don't get it either. Revolt!!!!!!
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eriknors said:
And why would I care if I did???
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U know who litetaker is D:?
P.S. if u want 1.0.2 u might *wink* want to check nits's files *wink*
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nitsua98 said:
U know who litetaker is D:?
P.S. if u want 1.0.2 u might *wink* want to check nits's files *wink*
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What I was really waiting for was 1.1.0 but that's not even an option now.
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i just winked the **** out of 1.0.2 :good:

Maybe virtuous is taking a leaf out of Verizon's book. Promising something tasty and pulling it away when it comes time for release.
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Thankfully, I was able to find the download link to 1.0.2. Going to have to wipe and install.

Don't think I fully understand what they mean though... They mean we have to mod the m10s ourselves or can't use the tool, or what?? It seemed real vague to me.
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I don't understand why Virtuous would do this.
they already did the m10 mods, and have it publicly released, why not let others use it?
I guess they are jealous that Virtuous is pretty much only known for their m10 tools.
Quite petty and immature if you were to ask me.
but this won't stop Nit!
He's a machine!

tylerlawhon said:
Don't think I fully understand what they mean though... They mean we have to mod the m10s ourselves or can't use the tool, or what?? It seemed real vague to me.
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andybones said:
I don't understand why Virtuous would do this.
they already did the m10 mods, and have it publicly released, why not let others use it?
I guess they are jealous that Virtuous is pretty much only known for their m10 tools.
Quite petty and immature if you were to ask me.
but this won't stop Nit!
He's a machine!
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guys, please dont get irritated at all anyone
virtuous guys spent a long time resizing a ton of things, and apparently want it exclusive to their infinity project, and i can totally undestand that
on my part, back when i added the m10 from their rom into ukb i should have checked with them first, but several other full sense 4 roms already had used it for a few weeks, so i thought nothing of it...the distinction is that the m10 tool is for anyones usage....the work theyve done with the tool on their own for their roms, is not (its actually encrypted)
and iirc their sharing policy was that no one needed to ask permission anymore, just to credit properly and give them the heads up (me mentioning it irc when no one was around was probably not good enough on my part lol)
i guess they just dont pay attention to xda much aside from their own threads, but when torxx posted viperDHD and it got 50k views in like a day, it made someone notice and they actually looked into it
its over as far as im concerned, and im sorry that months ago i didnt properly verify with them if i could use it..no execuse for that really
anyway, one of the members of team blackout is working on the m10 now for rosie, and portrait is already done (see my post in viper thread) and hopefully we ll be back up soon (week or less)
it is what it is, but apologies for the abruptness of how it went down...and remember, without them develping m10 tools in the first place, we d have nothing to work with!

I do appreciate your explanation Justin. I was having a hard time reconciling what was going on regarding m10 and the virtuous team and my previous view of the virtuous team. I can see where you went awry with no ill intent. Hopefully, in the long run, no harm no foul.
Thanks again so much for your efforts.

Anyone else see this?

I just followed link and found this going on in another Rom development. The fifth post is the one you want to check out. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33673632
I'm not saying anything, just posting what i found.
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Oh yea lol I haven't flashed anything that hasn't been deemed official for fear of messing up my device for this same reason. I suggest you all do the same or be prepared for the worst.
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So, he is JALstudios. Dude should be banned.

v8dreaming said:
So, he is JALstudios. Dude should be banned.
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Agreed, I always thought his posts were so similar but avoided passing judgment without knowing, but that screenshot proves it. It wouldn't be so bad if he would just own up to it instead of lying.
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yppans said:
Agreed, I always thought his posts were so similar but avoided passing judgment without knowing, but that screenshot proves it. It wouldn't be so bad if he would just own up to it instead of lying.
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No one here wants him to quit developing.. But we want him test his roms himself and only build them if he owns the device.. And I'm sure the Devs here would appreciate it if he wouldn't pull things out of their roms and use it without permission

rymanh said:
No one here wants him to quit developing.. But we want him test his roms himself and only build them if he owns the device.. And I'm sure the Devs here would appreciate it if he wouldn't pull things out of their roms and use it without permission
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Speak for yourself. I'd love it if our dev section didn't have any garbage that bricks peoples phones. This guy's been on a roll for a while. Honestly I'd love it if he'd stop dev'ing it'd save people a lot of time.

VoiD_Dweller said:
Speak for yourself. I'd love it if our dev section didn't have any garbage that bricks peoples phones. This guy's been on a roll for a while. Honestly I'd love it if he'd stop dev'ing it'd save people a lot of time.
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+ a googleplex, this guy wants recognition without putting in work or recognizing anybody else's. He needs to stop pestering us and go get some psychological help.

So anyone know what happened to his "illusuon" ROM post? I was waiting for a mod but went to bed and when I woke up it was gone. I'm guessing he deleted it to avoid the ban hammer that was coming.

I was looking for it too. I think it should have been up so everybody can see it. It was a.nicr entertainmemt for a chance lol Lets just hope that he doesnt come back with another name.

[Q] XquiziT xD Rom

Hey, can someone answer this for me?
Why is "[ROM][21 Nov [UVDLJA v46] XquiziT xD - Aroma & Kitchen v11 - TMO ONLY!" say Thread Closed?

If i had to guess, it has something to do with what was in the last few posts in that thread. Hopefully the moderator will clarify in the near future what exactly is going on
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He stole "kanged" work from other devs too, allegedly and I believe the others.
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nicky9door said:
If i had to guess, it has something to do with what was in the last few posts in that thread. Hopefully the moderator will clarify in the near future what exactly is going on
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Wow, that's messed up... I have been with wild since ICS, I don't think that would happen..

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mt3g said:
He stole "kanged" work from other devs too, allegedly and I believe the others.
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Ok, I don't know much but hopefully they get this solved I really like his ROM..

Why? He just updates his rom more commonly (all 800mb+) and breaks things a lot and steals others hard work without asking, or giving credit to them. (Allegedly), with proof, of course. I say use Frosty or Evil with the available themes in the themes and apps section. Xquizits roms always seemed okay... but too many broken things caused by pointless updates that are way too huge and should only require a seperate flashable 20mb zip.
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mt3g said:
Why? He just updates his rom more commonly (all 800mb+) and breaks things a lot and steals others hard work without asking, or giving credit to them. (Allegedly), with proof, of course. I say use Frosty or Evil with the available themes in the themes and apps section. Xquizits roms always seemed okay... but too many broken things caused by pointless updates that are way too huge and should only require a seperate flashable 20mb zip.
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I was with MIUI from Froyo but they are having problems with the JB, ok i will check them out. Which is the better of the 2?

Personal preferance. Try and see for yourself. they both feel extremely fast and I use seperate kernel usually so I can't attest to battery on either... just read the last 3-5 pages of each and make a decision that way.
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mt3g said:
Personal preferance. Try and see for yourself. they both feel extremely fast and I use seperate kernel usually so I can't attest to battery on either... just read the last 3-5 pages of each and make a decision that way.
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Ok, Thanks

What sucks is that none posted a reason being closed. I think the community should know what's up. I think he thanked enough as he could on he's OP. If he missed someone then I personally would say sorry but he is awesome Dev. and if he missed someone, he's only human and forget what he put in your work sometimes.
I hope this gets resolved or at least someone explain why it's closed.
Remember "assume" always makes a A$$ of U and ME.

zoth said:
What sucks is that none posted a reason being closed. I think the community should know what's up. I think he thanked enough as he could on he's OP. If he missed someone then I personally would say sorry but he is awesome Dev. and if he missed someone, he's only human and forget what he put in your work sometimes.
I hope this gets resolved or at least someone explain why it's closed.
Remember "assume" always makes a ASS of U and ME.
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Yes I agree, I have been with his ROM since I stopped using MIUI and yesterday I was lossed when I saw the message stating that I was closed. I am hoping everything works out for him as well

There's a deference in using someones work and saying thanks to them, or giving credit, and stealing there work without asking and claiming it to be your own. Pretty much being a thief... If people were to donate to him cause of his rom that is wrongfully going to the person. EvilArt created hidden code and such in his work and he posted that XquiziT was using it in his roms and not giving credit. Other's have mentioned this as well about his roms. It's sad and sucks and I hope there was just some confusion, but evidence is evidence.

Another one gone because of freaking drama...
"From Wild himself"
Soap Box
Yes I used the word "Wicked" in my Rom but nothing else. Wanam's 15 toggle code is where that word
came from a compare I did when my mod was fc'ing. I have done all my own mods why would I use Wicked's and the SystemUI.apk at that. Nothing special about that file and prob 85% or more of the S3 Roms are the same mods and would compare except the word "Wicked" that yes I included.
Anyway I will keep doing Roms for myself but will no longer be a part of XDA. Not because of XDA, because of what goes on there.
Thanks for all who supported me but as I have said before I take no donations as this is my fun and learning experience.
Thanks!

zoth said:
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Yes I used the word "Wicked" in my Rom but nothing else. Wanam's 15 toggle code is where that word
came from a compare I did when my mod was fc'ing. I have done all my own mods why would I use Wicked's and the SystemUI.apk at that. Nothing special about that file and prob 85% or more of the S3 Roms are the same mods and would compare except the word "Wicked" that yes I included.
Anyway I will keep doing Roms for myself but will no longer be a part of XDA. Not because of XDA, because of what goes on there.
Thanks for all who supported me but as I have said before I take no donations as this is my fun and learning experience.
Thanks!
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I'm sorry, but who are you? What roms do you have?
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zoth said:
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Yes I used the word "Wicked" in my Rom but nothing else. Wanam's 15 toggle code is where that word
came from a compare I did when my mod was fc'ing. I have done all my own mods why would I use Wicked's and the SystemUI.apk at that. Nothing special about that file and prob 85% or more of the S3 Roms are the same mods and would compare except the word "Wicked" that yes I included.
Anyway I will keep doing Roms for myself but will no longer be a part of XDA. Not because of XDA, because of what goes on there.
Thanks for all who supported me but as I have said before I take no donations as this is my fun and learning experience.
Thanks!
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Hey, So do you know whats going on exactly?
Do you think that this was all a misunderstanding and he will be back up and running?

elflip88 said:
I'm sorry, but who are you? What roms do you have?
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I think it might be Wildchld with a duplicate account, Not to sure tho.

sswb27 said:
I think it might be Wildchld with a duplicate account, Not to sure tho.
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If it is, hey man I love the ROM!! Thanks

That's a readme note from wild posted on SF...

zoth said:
That's a readme note from wild posted on SF...
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Ok, Thanks for the update....

zoth said:
That's a readme note from wild posted on SF...
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Well that sucks. I like Wild's ROMs and he may have took others work, but hell....the same code floats around from DEV to DEV anyway.
SN: Wicked ROM is actually pretty nice. I tried it once it was proven that Wild was stealing code from Evil. I think Wicked ROM needs inverted apps though. They make the ROMs like so much more classier!
Anyway, thanks Wild for all of your work and efforts. You put a lot of time into updating your ROMs and I'm sad to see you go bro.