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Couple of noob nandroid q's

Short and sweet:
1. I'm using the recovery that comes with Toast's 2of2 method (this is Amon Ra?) The Nand/ext backup fails for me and I read in a thread that's expected, but I can't find it again with the forum search. How would I fix this, and is it necessary? Is the regular Nandroid backup good enough?
2. Does a Nandroid backup include the kernel? If I push a custom kernel and have problems, will a Nand restore revert me to the kernel I had when I made the backup?
Thanks for the help in advance.

yes and yes
the ext bkup fails bc you dont have a ext partition yet

1. Do you have an EXT partition on your card? If not then you can just use the straight Nandroid backup.
2. Yes a Nandroid should back up the kernel at the point you made the back up. (not 100% sure but 99% )

I hate to hijack the thread but it looks looks like it died down a little and in my search effort this is the closest to what my question is. so to save making a new post on something probably answered before.
I am a relative noob. (i know sad) but i am learnign fast. I was wondering what exactly a nandroid back up does and does not back up.
I am doing the Starting over method to get back to stock 1.47(rooted) to see if it fixes 4g and think i can just nandroid after doing the method described to get my rom back etc. My only fear is that by nandrioding what ever benefit i got from starting over will be reverted.
Srry for the long explaination but basically if i Nandroid is it basically a complete image changing literally everything back to the previous state(ala HDD img)? If not will doing the starting over method then nandroiding revert me back to having the problem again?
Thanks in advance.

Nandroid backs up your entire system config. Radio, software, kernel, rom, etc. As long as you don't unroot, your system will be exactly the way it was after you restore.
Omega, if you do the back to stock root and then restore Nandroid, I'm pretty sure it will be as if you never did the back to stock. Pretty sure but not 100% positive.
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Nandroid does NOT back up or restore your radio, wimax, boot or recovery partitions
AFAIK nand only backs up your system and userdata partitions, not positive about the cache or misc partitions.

nebenezer said:
Nandroid does NOT back up or restore your radio, wimax, boot or recovery partitions
AFAIK nand only backs up your system and userdata partitions, not positive about the cache or misc partitions.
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Thank you very much. This should mean that once i do the starting over i should then be able to just nandroid back to my rom without having to redo my kernal/theme/rom and it shouldn't mess up my wimax radio again.

omegasun18 said:
Thank you very much. This should mean that once i do the starting over i should then be able to just nandroid back to my rom without having to redo my kernal/theme/rom and it shouldn't mess up my wimax radio again.
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Correct .
*edit- looks like I'm wrong about the boot partition. I just unzipped a nand and there's a boot.img in there.. still shouldn't affect radio or wimax though

[Q] Suggested best method for backups

I'd like to try out a ROM or two. i was just wondering what would be the best method for backing up my phone before wiping/loading a new rom? I've seen several mentions of nandroid backup, but i haven't found a link yet as to how to use that.
Will the backup restore the ROM i had when i created the backup? Or will i have to flash that rom back on the phone and then run the restore to just get my apps/data back?
thanks

You can make a nandroid backup in your custom recovery. And the backup will restore your phone to how it was the moment you made the backup.

How do I do a custom recovery?
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you are rooted and have nand unlocked, correct? if so, what method did you use?

dschoenike said:
you are rooted and have nand unlocked, correct? if so, what method did you use?
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rooted yes, not sure about nand. I used unrevoked to root the phone. I don't think unrevoked does the nand unlock. I'm not even clear on what nand unlocking is. So i hadn't looked into doing that yet since i didn't want to unlock 'it' until i knew what 'it' was

In for this answer... I titanium backed up but need to know if that's enough.

Ok - played around with the power btn+vol down menu and found nandroid and i am running a backup now.
What exactly is this backing up?
If i were to reinstall the original ROM from sprint on here, could i use this to restore the phone as i have it now? I assume i'd have to root the phone first in order to use the restore the backup?
thanks

merkk said:
Ok - played around with the power btn+vol down menu and found nandroid and i am running a backup now.
What exactly is this backing up?
If i were to reinstall the original ROM from sprint on here, could i use this to restore the phone as i have it now? I assume i'd have to root the phone first in order to use the restore the backup?
thanks
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1. It's backing up your nand.
There's an above post explaining this already.
2. Not necessary. Fully understand the answer to number 1.
3. Didn't you already root? You couldn't be doing this stuff otherwise.

[Q] Nandroid Backup?

Hey everybody,
I'm rooted for almost 4 months now. I only have one problem,
When I create a nandroid, all goes well, till restoring.
I get a USB-Brick and i can't use the nandroid. This is very annoying after doing a full wipe for another rom. I know it's caused by AmonRA.
I have version 2.0.0> upgrading tot 2.0.1, will that help
And can I do that without S-offing my phone.
I can't use CWM as I have a PVT4 SLCD Desire.
I really don't want to s-off yet.
Any help?

Hi, i have the pv4t w/ slcd, too
Cwm worked to root, then applied the alpharev from bootable CD to s-off. Nandroid backups work 100% safe untilled now.
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Thanks but as i mentioned before i don't want to s-off yet.
I don't have any problems without s-off it's just titanium backup takes me ages because i have too many apps and nandroids are much easier but i'll think about it. No other solutions?

flashing custom hboot without reflashing ROM?

as i'm not so much into these flashing stuff, here's a very simple question...
i wanted to flash a new hboot because the small data partition is rly annoying me, even with a2sd++
so only problem that i have is now, can i flash a new hboot that simple or do i have to reflash ROM, do a full wipe or something like that?
my desire is s-off @leedroid HD port, rooted for sure...
thanks for any answers

Make a complete nandroid backup, flash new hboot via fastboot, go back to recovery, wipe everything and restore backup.
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so nandroid backup includes all app installations and settings, but not the partition table(hboot)? also, isnt it problematic to restore the backup into a new hboot, as the partition spaces have changed?
and another question: do i get problems if i have some apps moved to sd card with android system a2sd?

It will cause problems if your /system is bigger than /system on your new partition table. Which hboot you use now and which you plan on using?
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Backup with Recovery

Hi,
I have a stupid question about doing a backup within the recovery tool.
Will the partition table also be backuped? Cause when I flash a new ROM with another hboot (and maybe it sucks ) , and I wanna recover my old ROM, do I need to flash the old hboot version before?
THX

Yeah, nandroid doesn't backup partition table. If you try to restore under hboot which has smaller /system than that in backup, your phone will fail to boot.
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Great,
THX for the fast answer!