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I might be getting an EVO 4G as a warranty replacement for my hero and I live in Milwaukee, WI with no 4G service.
I need to know if anything on the evo goes out and says its a 4g phone other than imei/esn. If so what and can it be disabled or blocked?
Im sorry if this is way out of line. I just trying to gather information at this point.
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As soon as you turn it on, Sprint makes sure you know it's 4G.
Sorry guys just had to ask.
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Ill be getting the phone from best buy as a black tie replacement if i break my Hero.
So ill get the phone unactivated and sprint wont know unless i tell them i got a new phone. I just need to know if the 4g radio can be completely disabled to make the phone look like a Hero (except for the imei/esn).
So IF some how i could "transplant" aforementioned numbers (is this possible? I don't think so) Sprint would think im still using a 3g phone like the hero...
There is no sense in paying a premium for something that I am not able to use.
If Milwaukee ever goes 4G I would like to undo and needed hacks/mods so that I can register for service at that time.
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not possible.
Methods of this kind are not allowed in these forums. Mods please close this thread.
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why?
There are multiple threads far more legally shady than this.
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why?
There are multiple threads far more legally shady than this.
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Lol, I was wondering the same thing.
nothing illegal about this thread, they just wont give u an EVO 4G as a warranty replacement, they will give you another hero.
the back cover says 4G, the bootscreen says 4G, the OS says 4G, what does it matter? If you dont have it you dont have it why do you need to hide it?
The premium charge is not because of 4G.
The charge is to remove the 5BG cap!
Enjoy the new plan of uncapped INTERNET on your phone! Cheers!
The premium charge is not because of 4G.
The charge is to remove the 5BG cap!
Enjoy the new plan of uncapped INTERNET on your phone! Cheers!
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AFAIK Data has never been capped
Not possible, the ESN is tied to the mainboard and its in sprints system.
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AFAIK Data has never been capped
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yes it has, read the small print every god damn cell phone providers have caps on their unlimited data plans sprints has 5 gb's. If you went over you limit with sprint in the past, they did not complain to no one uses them so they don't call to ***** at their few subscibers
I'm not concerned with the esn. I would only want to disabled the 4g part of the phone. I don't want it to phone home and say I'm an evolution 4g give me 4g.
Ill talk to my stores sprint Rep to see if there's any ligit way around this required $10 fee.
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I'm not concerned with the esn. I would only want to disabled the 4g part of the phone. I don't want it to phone home and say I'm an evolution 4g give me 4g.
Ill talk to my stores sprint Rep to see if there's any ligit way around this required $10 fee.
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Good luck. If you take a look around the forums though, you'll see there have been plenty of people trying to get around the fee, & as far as i know, no one has been successful. If it goes any differently, let us know!
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7 Posts and you're already policing the forums?
Someone asking if things are possible is very different than asking about changing an IMEI number.
Your IMEI number is how the carrier recognizes what phone you have. In theory... if you changed that to match your Hero's number then they'd think it was your hero. That is presuming you never turned on your 4G.
The only issue is that I believe it is illegal in the US to spoof your IMEI number. This is a measure taken to allow carriers to block stolen phones from their networks. Makes sense. More info on IMEI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity
So sorry, you're going to be out of luck.
^^ And that's how you answer an OP's question, stay legal, and avoid being a ****.
Ok... long story short, tmobile slowed my 4G the first month I got my G2 because I exceeded 5GB... that's BS if u ask me consider I pay for unlimitied... but its whatever. Next billing cycle rolls around, and my 4G is still at the pace of a snail. SpeedTest app is testing in @ a BLAZING speed of 0.03-0.05mbps with full 4G connection. Got a new sim, now they are sending me a new G2. Works for me ...
Anyway... they want my old G2 and I feel as though if they receive a phone all modded up they may say... "woah, he screwed his phone up himself..." so right now I'm rooted, s-off, running gingermex rom, updated radio and kernel... which was all easy to do... but getting back to stock seems a little more intricate. Maybe somebody knows what's wrong with my device since t-mobile is no longer slowing my speeds.. and yet they are still slow. Tried multiple radios, no success.. any input here on either matter will be greatly appreciated! Thanks
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Ok... long story short, tmobile slowed my 4G the first month I got my G2 because I exceeded 5GB... that's BS if u ask me consider I pay for unlimitied... but its whatever. Next billing cycle rolls around, and my 4G is still at the pace of a snail. SpeedTest app is testing in @ a BLAZING speed of 0.03-0.05mbps with full 4G connection. Got a new sim, now they are sending me a new G2. Works for me ...
Anyway... they want my old G2 and I feel as though if they receive a phone all modded up they may say... "woah, he screwed his phone up himself..." so right now I'm rooted, s-off, running gingermex rom, updated radio and kernel... which was all easy to do... but getting back to stock seems a little more intricate. Maybe somebody knows what's wrong with my device since t-mobile is no longer slowing my speeds.. and yet they are still slow. Tried multiple radios, no success.. any input here on either matter will be greatly appreciated! Thanks
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You don't need a new phone, you should have just wiped the throttle data and it would have been fine. Throttling is initiated on the PHONE side.
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You don't need a new phone, you should have just wiped the throttle data and it would have been fine. Throttling is initiated on the PHONE side.
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How is this task done? Please advise and thanks for the reply! But tmo throttled me over their network..
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Have done numberous wipes, new roms, radios, repartitioning... search only turns up old methods that don't work... help?
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Usually on phone replacements they send you the new one and you ship back the old with attached packing slips. So if that's the case then they can't do much about it. They want the old one to refurbish and make an extra bit of change
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Spastic909 said:
Usually on phone replacements they send you the new one and you ship back the old with attached packing slips. So if that's the case then they can't do much about it. They want the old one to refurbish and make an extra bit of change
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They would void is warranty for future replacements.
Best thing to do is drop that phone in water for an hour than put it in the shipping package.
They said the main thing for me getting the g2 replaced was that everything worked, no damage.. so no water lol. I wanna know how to do the "wipe throttle data" that was previously mentioned.
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Ok... long story short, tmobile slowed my 4G the first month I got my G2 because I exceeded 5GB... that's BS if u ask me consider I pay for unlimitied... but its whatever. Next billing cycle rolls around, and my 4G is still at the pace of a snail. SpeedTest app is testing in @ a BLAZING speed of 0.03-0.05mbps with full 4G connection. Got a new sim, now they are sending me a new G2. Works for me ...
Anyway... they want my old G2 and I feel as though if they receive a phone all modded up they may say... "woah, he screwed his phone up himself..." so right now I'm rooted, s-off, running gingermex rom, updated radio and kernel... which was all easy to do... but getting back to stock seems a little more intricate. Maybe somebody knows what's wrong with my device since t-mobile is no longer slowing my speeds.. and yet they are still slow. Tried multiple radios, no success.. any input here on either matter will be greatly appreciated! Thanks
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The going back to stock guide is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Returning_to_Stock
have fun - Guhl
Thank you very much....
.... still curious of how to "wipe throttle data". Have replaces service.jar and also removed the "throttle" folder and all its contents from /data. They come right back when phone reboots. Was able to access throttle folder and its contents using DroidExplorer. Too bad I can't get them to go away for good..
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bumpp... help?
Nothing I know of will work, currently. Sorry.
Vision rooted, booted and scooted
How did you go over the 5GB data "cap?" Tethering? I've watched movies over Netflix with my laptop, but I've never been able to even get close to that 5GB. I use netcounter to keep track.
Also, I don't believe there is currently a working method.
Tethering and "large downloads" such as movies and MAD ROMS lol...
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Got new G2 today.. brand new. Before sim insertion inside root/data there is NO throttle folder... after I put sim in and turn on root/data/THROTTLE magically appears.. tmo is f*ing with me and I don't like this.. any help will be appreciated..
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purplxhaze420 said:
Got new G2 today.. brand new. Before sim insertion inside root/data there is NO throttle folder... after I put sim in and turn on root/data/THROTTLE magically appears.. tmo is f*ing with me and I don't like this.. any help will be appreciated..
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Maybe the throttle folder is there simply because you have gone over in the past - they might not actually be throttling your data. I would recommend getting mobile signal widget and going to somewhere with HSPA+ data rates, and then doing several speed tests with various applications.
If you still have the issue, you probably should talk with customer service. If you can't get it resolved, I hate to say it, but you may want to switch carriers.
You could also try getting ahold of people on XDA that have worked on removing evidence of throttling on the phone side.
Good luck man! Sorry to hear you're still having the issue. This 5GB cap is ridiculous - they should not be able to call this "unlimited data."
I have honestly been considering switching carriers. I have already told them I will most likely cancel, and refuse to pay 200 to do so if I choose. Customer service has been completely wretched. I know it sounds kind of like a conspiracy or something, but I have called like 13 times today and maybe 8 of the calls were "dropped"... IMO they are hanging up on me because they can't provide any help! Numerous of the reps were supervisors,too! I have never had a problem with tmo and this is like bad... I can't understand them they all sound like the same indian woman changing her name every time she answers lol...
People are saying in older threads that this happens with the services.jar that is in root/system/framework... anybody have any more ideas? Relatively desperate..lol
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Maybe the throttle folder is there simply because you have gone over in the past - they might not actually be throttling your data. I would recommend getting mobile signal widget and going to somewhere with HSPA+ data rates, and then doing several speed tests with various applications.
If you still have the issue, you probably should talk with customer service. If you can't get it resolved, I hate to say it, but you may want to switch carriers.
You could also try getting ahold of people on XDA that have worked on removing evidence of throttling on the phone side.
Good luck man! Sorry to hear you're still having the issue. This 5GB cap is ridiculous - they should not be able to call this "unlimited data."
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Went to tmobile store lady was able to get a trouble ticket filed and she said an engineer should be contacting her or me by noon tomorrow.. we shall see.
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Ok... long story short, tmobile slowed my 4G the first month I got my G2 because I exceeded 5GB... that's BS if u ask me consider I pay for unlimitied..
well, you are getting unlimited data, just not at the speed of 4G
Exactly.. that's tmo's loophole. My issue is.. that was last billing cycle and I've used barle 100mb this month...
Issue remains unadressed by tmo, and unsolved on my end.
TrueYears said:
Ok... long story short, tmobile slowed my 4G the first month I got my G2 because I exceeded 5GB... that's BS if u ask me consider I pay for unlimitied..
well, you are getting unlimited data, just not at the speed of 4G
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh gotcha
sorry cant help you out then =/ wish I could but that must SUCK
Hey can someone confirm whether the stock wifi hotspot feature works on the Verizon galaxy nexus without having to add a tethering plan?
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When I select to turn it on, it runs through a "checking for subscription" then pops up an Error window that I'm not authorized to run it and have to call Customer Service. It was the first thing I tried as soon as I walked out of the VZW store this morning.
Greg Tolan said:
Hey can someone confirm whether the stock wifi hotspot feature works on the Verizon galaxy nexus without having to add a tethering plan?
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I'd like to know this as well. Chances are though, you have to be rooted and the hotspot app will have to be hacked for it to be used without detection check by VZW. I am with Sprint OG Samsung Epic, and these were the necessary steps to get Sprint hotspot to work without having a plan. I am sure a dev will be able to get it done in time. In the meantime, suggest rooting and using either Barnacle tether or Wifi Tether, or if you want to stay stock: PDANet.
After root - wired tether will work.
After root - WiFi tether will NOT work. It has the 'blocktether' thing on there.
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After root - wired tether will work.
After root - WiFi tether will NOT work. It has the 'blocktether' thing on there.
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Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
Framework patch. Give it a week. Or just pay for it.
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Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
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dohturdima said:
Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
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At this moment, you'll need an LTE rom or patch that disables the 'blocktether' methinks. I am running stock for the rest of the week, so I cannot test - apologies.
dohturdima said:
Ouch. Any available apps/workarounds to enable wireless tether? This is a make-or-break issue for me right now in terms of getting the phone.
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Just root your phone. There is no downside to that.
pharpe said:
Just root your phone. There is no downside to that.
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That's not the problem. Not being able to tether could potentially be a dealbreaker for some people (myself included).
Its blocked. You've got to root and remove the software they have for tracking tethering. Or wait for a CDMA custom ROM to come out that has unblocked tethering.
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Or just pay for it.
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LOL
If it's that big of a deal, pay for it then.
keatre said:
At this moment, you'll need an LTE rom or patch that disables the 'blocktether' methinks. I am running stock for the rest of the week, so I cannot test - apologies.
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Yup. You'll just have to get a rom that has tethering open for all of our hearts' content!
Anyone tried this app ht tp://goo.gl/LZCZO or the paid version ? Can't believe VZW sucks so bad, makes sense now why the phone was delayed so long... Google arguing against VZW breaking and crippling their beautiful OS. But I just bought one this morning and being delivered tomorrow.
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Anyone tried this app ht tp://goo.gl/LZCZO or the paid version ? Can't believe VZW sucks so bad, makes sense now why the phone was delayed so long... Google arguing against VZW breaking and crippling their beautiful OS. But I just bought one this morning and being delivered tomorrow.
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Using a 3rd party app doesn't remove Verizon's tracking software. They'll still see you're doing it based on my experiences w/ VZW phones...
I'm assuming you guys have tried Google's Wireless Tether app. No dice?
triunetehk said:
Anyone tried this app ht tp://goo.gl/LZCZO or the paid version ? Can't believe VZW sucks so bad, makes sense now why the phone was delayed so long... Google arguing against VZW breaking and crippling their beautiful OS. But I just bought one this morning and being delivered tomorrow.
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Not letting people steal bandwidth is not crippling the OS. Don't get me wrong I think paying for tethering is beyond retarded but it is a paid service that they offer there is no reason for them to give it away for free.
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joshnichols189 said:
Not letting people steal bandwidth is not crippling the OS. Don't get me wrong I think paying for tethering is beyond retarded but it is a paid service that they offer there is no reason for them to give it away for free.
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People aren't "stealing" bandwidth. They're paying for it and using it. This isn't even an argument in a world of capped data plans. If you pay for 2GB or 4GB or 10GB+, you're buying that bandwidth from VZW. Its yours to use. And carriers are being beyond ridiculous, forcing consumers to pay for data twice.
And it is crippling (albeit thats a bit dramatic) the OS. ICS (and 2.2, 2.3) has wired/wireless tethering enabled. Removing that, is removing a feature that used to make the OS whole.
Just to clear the air -
Currently - no matter what App you use, you cannot WiFi tether.
Verizon is blocking ALL WiFi tether - you will need to remove the check.
Thanks for the update. What are the chances that this check can be removed? I know people with the Bionic were having problems tethering (still not sure if they can).
This is a deal breaker for me, so I'm hoping it isn't something too complicated for the devs to remove.
P.S. Let's not turn this into a morality thread. This is a place to discuss whether or not you can get WiFi tethering working without paying extra for it.
This is a huge problem, I need to tether by next Thursday.
I have a rooted GN (Sprint) and have the wifi hotspot app from google. Works perfect but for ****s and giggles I just tried to enable the built in Hotspot on my phone...and it worked?? I called sprint and they said I did not have the add on and it should not be working. My question is when I unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone, did I unblock the hotspot and allow it to be used with no penalty from Sprint?
If someone would get back to me I would appreciate it greatly and pass out some thanks.
I don't see how the built in tethering could be blocked by you having it on your plan or not. The most I could see happening would be redirecting web requests to a page asking you to add it, or you getting a phone call from Sprint after using it. Your phone doesn't know what your plan is, so why would it not allow you to turn on the built in tethering feature?
well on my E4GT SII, When I tried to use my hotspot it would just not allow me to connect anything to it. With this one on the GNex, it allows me to connect my devices to it and use data, but without redirection or anything else. So paranoia is setting in and I dont want to see rediculous charges, but since I never received any warning so I guess they cannot charge me for anything.
Thanks for the info.
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well on my E4GT SII, When I tried to use my hotspot it would just not allow me to connect anything to it. With this one on the GNex, it allows me to connect my devices to it and use data, but without redirection or anything else. So paranoia is setting in and I dont want to see rediculous charges, but since I never received any warning so I guess they cannot charge me for anything.
Thanks for the info.
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If you want to play it safe why don't you just use the app..?
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If you want to play it safe why don't you just use the app..?
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Envy you!!!
Lucky you. Since your rooted I guess it ignores your limitations on your plans. How bout you test something else that your not allowed to use due to plan limitations if there are any others.
If so.... I hate you!!! I wanna bypass the limitations!!!!! DX
BUT NICE!!!
P.S. I JUST TRIED ACTIVATING MY HOTSPOT ON MY VERIZON GALAXY NEXUS AND IT WORKED!!!! And it is not on the the plan. Also depending on ur Rom, some roms bypass the restrictions, allowing you free access to this wonderful and magical feature!!! Use freely with no worries but overages, but you got sprint, so ur worry free!!!
So to conclude. Use it and don't tell your carrier with out fear of being billed.
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Lucky you. Since your rooted I guess it ignores your limitations on your plans. How bout you test something else that your not allowed to use due to plan limitations if there are any others.
If so.... I hate you!!! I wanna bypass the limitations!!!!! DX
BUT NICE!!!
P.S. I JUST TRIED ACTIVATING MY HOTSPOT ON MY VERIZON GALAXY NEXUS AND IT WORKED!!!! And it is not on the the plan. Also depending on ur Rom, some roms bypass the restrictions, allowing you free access to this wonderful and magical feature!!! Use freely with no worries but overages, but you got sprint, so ur worry free!!!
So to conclude. Use it and don't tell your carrier with out fear of being billed.
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They can tell when it is being used..
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They can tell when it is being used..
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Really?!?!?!
Did they tell you that??? Cuz I know ur not getting billed unless u said ur doing or asking to check if you are using it.
On my Carrier they never told me once I was using it or billed me. And I've been using an app that just breaks the restrictions as long as it's open. So Verizon should see me using it unauthorize.
I know they can tell you. But the real question is, will you get billed if you never mention you are using???
Cuz I've done my research on this a few months back and they never bill you unless u ask em about and actually dig in and see that specific thing.
Ok im new here mainly to try to find answers to my problem. Apparently i bought a stolen S3 that is blacklisted through AT&T. Phone turns on and looks like its brand new except i cant do anything on it (make calls, text, internet) my question is can there be ANY solution to this, or am i just SOL. Its fine if i am, but just figured i could try all options and thats when i stumbled upon this site. Im not asking anyone to do anything for me, just can it be done. Is it "locked" or "blocked" ? If i unlocked it would it work then? Please any help is appreciated
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Ok im new here mainly to try to find answers to my problem. Apparently i bought a stolen S3 that is blacklisted through AT&T. Phone turns on and looks like its brand new except i cant do anything on it (make calls, text, internet) my question is can there be ANY solution to this, or am i just SOL. Its fine if i am, but just figured i could try all options and thats when i stumbled upon this site. Im not asking anyone to do anything for me, just can it be done. Is it "locked" or "blocked" ? If i unlocked it would it work then? Please any help is appreciated
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Unlocked might work on tmo 2g. Other services that use att might work on prepay.
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It'll work on StraightTalk
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It'll work on StraightTalk
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So those are my options? Im very green in the cell phone lingo, if i use straight talk im not on my service right its a pay as you go thing right?
Just wish i could unlock it and be good with full function lol. Any other responses would be appreciated
jjdub1 said:
So those are my options? Im very green in the cell phone lingo, if i use straight talk im not on my service right its a pay as you go thing right?
Just wish i could unlock it and be good with full function lol. Any other responses would be appreciated
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Did AT&T tell you that it's blacklisted, or is that just your assumption? Just trying to make sure it isn't something else like a missing IMEI code.
And if it was stolen, I'd get rid of it if it were me. You can get in a lot of trouble for receiving stolen goods.
At any rate, not here to preach. You can unlock it for free using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34661189#post3466118
That said, if you use a T-Mobile sim card you'll probably only get Edge network, which is slower than dial-up (not really, but it is agonizingly slow). In some areas of the country T-Mobile has rolled out newer networks and you might get H+. Worth a shot at any rate. Good luck. :good:
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And if it was stolen, I'd get rid of it if it were me. You can get in a lot of trouble for receiving stolen goods.
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Chances are, it could be blacklisted on all GSM networks, not just AT&T. All a person would need to do is call up respective customer care, and get it disabled. If he got it for one, I don't think he'd be stupid enough not to get it disabled on other MAJOR networks.
When you got it, didn't you put in your cell sim and check if it was working or not?